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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Comment about the Summit probably best <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,1688,onpoint_two_wallops_of_wonk_with_a_side_of_waffle.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">over here</a> on Keith's dedicated thread.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:57:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Conor Roberts</title>
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						<p>The only good bit in today's Herald was when Business Editor Liam Dann absolutely pans John Key's “Jobs Summit” – it’s the only piece of critical journalism I've read about the “do-fest” and I suspect he might be fired soon for breaking the fawning-sycophantic-dribble editorial line...</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10559202" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10559202</a></p><p>Worth a read.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:53:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						Great! Thank you Mark
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:27:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd really like to switch from entourage but cannot see a way to export from entourage to thunderbird</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040225022427754" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040225022427754</a></p><p>mbox is the standard for Thunderbird.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:20:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>Lucy, <br />I use Gmail mainly for subscriptions to websites and stuff I can get along without. The problem with it is &ndash; well, Google. I just don't trust anybody who gives you so much for free, I guess. And I don't want to rely on it. Same with GoogleDocs. What…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:46:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The thing about Outlook is it is not just an eMail client. It is also a calender/Organiser, with reminders for appointments etc. task lists and a fully fledged contacts database with all the bells and whistles you could imagine IIRC Lotus was similar but Evolution is Open Source.</p></blockquote><p>Doesn't Gmail…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:41:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Newsprint</title>
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						Re Thunderbird &ndash; I'd really like to switch from entourage but cannot see a way to export from entourage to thunderbird. Am I missing something? Cheers. Am loving Safari 4 &ndash; but am slightly bitter I can't use ad block as I'm 10.4.11 . . .
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:31:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Thanks, James. Yes, they look fantastic, and you can print on all sorts of materials, it seems.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:46:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Francis</title>
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						<p>Mark, I have a friend at Massey in Wellington who does cyanotypes. I'll ask her.</p><p>Cyanotype prints are quite exquisite.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:12:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<p>Not wishing to threadjack, but it is Friday, so...</p><p>Has anybody here played with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">cyanotypes</a>? I'd like to give it a go, having read up on it, but I'm having difficulty finding an NZ supplier of the chemicals so thought I'd ask here if anyone knows where I could source…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:06:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Curious if anyone else has used entourage and how they've found it.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I went to it when I moved to a Mac mostly because I needed my 10 odd years of Outllook correspondence at hand when I was working. I don't mind it but it's a curiously neutered version…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:51:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>if you have to have a computer to organise your life do you really have one?</p></blockquote><p>One of the issues I've lived with over the years is a lack of short term memory. When I was in corporate land, I used PIMs (allied with a PDA) to remind me of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:14:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I've stayed well away from outlook at home, but at work I use entourage to (increasingly) organise my work life. I only switched a few weeks ago from using Apple mail, Address Book, and iCal.</p><p>Emails, calendar, contacts, to do lists etc.</p><p>Curious if anyone else has used entourage and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:01:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>The thing about Outlook is it is not just an eMail client. It is also a calender/Organiser, with reminders for appointments etc. task lists and a fully fledged contacts database with all the bells and whistles you could imagine IIRC Lotus was similar but Evolution is Open Source.<br />I reckon…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:45:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alistair McBride</title>
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						I'm happily running both 10.5.6 and Safari 4 on my iBook G4. I'm finding that Safari 4 is much smoother than 3 and my 18 year old was so impressed that he got me to load it onto the old eMac which is also running Leopard. Both machines plus an…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:50:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Haven't used Outlook since 2005, when I left my last corporate job. Used Pegasus Mail from 1993 till 2005 when I shifted to the Mac, but David told me he wasn't going to do any more Pegasus for Mac (and then stopped completely a couple of years ago) so I…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:30:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Yes. The incognito setting in Chrome will do all that but an improvement would be to have it notified on startup "Would you like this session to run in Incognito Mode?" sort of thing, (now I sound as dodgy as David ;-)  ) and of course you would be able…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:44:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hamilton</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(try getting rid of that accidentally visited pron site glaring at the first person that fires up Chrome in the morning)</p></blockquote><p>I realise I'm going to sound totally dodgy but Chrome has a great incognito mode (Ctrl-Shift-N to open a new window) which doesn't save any browser/search history and doesn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:03:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Of course. Bernaise.
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Would that be open sauce?
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I even have Gmail running in pine on one of my debian boxen.</p></blockquote><p>So what? I have Simfest operating at full schtlup on top of my ratatouille.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:19:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<blockquote><p>accidentally visited pron site</p></blockquote><p>Accidentally?</p><blockquote><p>If I were looking for a good setup today I would be going for Google Chrome and Evolution for windows. I already use Evo. on my Linux box an am quit impressed, Outlook look out.</p></blockquote><p>I don't use an email client for any of my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:13:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>(So it'll probably turn out Chrome stole it from Opera. But who uses that besides a few complete weirdos?) </blockquote>WooHoo, I'm a complete weirdo. Chrome is excellent but old habits die hard. Things I like about Opera. Tabbed browsing, Opera had it long before Firefox. Notes, until you've used it…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:56:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						I've tried Chrome at home, after getting fed up with Firefox freezing quite often when loading a new tab (even with only 2 or 3 tabs open!). It's generally nice, but I've found that when you're switching between a few tabs with Flash in them (e.g. YouTube), the renderer flickers…
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Mmmm, of course, all the other major browsers are developing new and improved Javascript engines as well. </p><p>As for Chrome, maybe I'll give it another go on my home machine, although it's useless in the enterprise &ndash; it doesn't remember how to log onto a proxy between sessions, for a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:34:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) &ndash; applications like GMail and Google Docs that run various forms of editor and the like in the local browser.</p><p>This wasn't really anticipated when Javascript was invented.</p></blockquote><p>I guess not, but still, I'm doing pretty much exactly what GMail does, using AJAX for my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:16:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You;ll be needing the free Windows Media components for QuickTime. Works perfectly.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for that tip Russell. It does work and so I can now watch those Foo videos.  Might be good to have that tip somewhere on the Media 7 blog.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:39:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How on earth do you find stuff in 100 tabs? I find it's getting cluttered over about 5. If I find anything I expect to need to refer to I favourite it (in Google, so I can see it from home/work).</p></blockquote><p>Having the tree-style tabs feature enabled helps a lot;…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>I went to have a look at the Foo videos on the media 7 blog and the TVNZ site insists on wanting to load some kind of Windows media extension. As I'm on a Mac using Safari I find this a bit disconcerting. (Pretty sure that only works on a…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:14:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kmont</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Am I the only person that dislikes the Powershop banners? Especially the one with the plugs that seems to capture my cursor with a tractor beam.</p></blockquote><p>I like those ads, both of 'em (I even clicked through and the design of the site is nice too).  What I hate hate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:13:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>big thumbnails of my 12 most-visited sites</p></blockquote><p>Again an old Opera feature.  Configurable. 24 works well, 30 is looming large.</p><p>Hmmm...Opera users hippies &amp; weirdos.  I would have thought both of those terms were badges of honour to the Mac crowd, especially any from Grafton.  </p><p>What's the matter Morgan, is the…</p>
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				<title>Gareth</title>
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						<p>I don't like the "tabs on top". My mouse doesn't expect them to be there... too easy to close one by mistake, but the window overflow cascade is much nicer.</p><p>No problems with Mail here, but I'm not running any add-ons/hacks. And it is fast...</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						Just checked Media 7 / on demand still works on the Mac
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						I went to have a look at the Foo videos on the media 7 blog and the TVNZ site insists on wanting to load some kind of Windows media extension. As I'm on a Mac using Safari I find this a bit disconcerting. (Pretty sure that only works on a…
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						100 tabs? Can't wait for wetware eh?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Yes, spatial awareness is what I was thinking &ndash; I know it's the tab next to that other one, about halfway along the row.  Mind you, I could just get onto installing a feedreader and my browsing behaviour might change.
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>I have a somewhat ...erm... other than normal way of thinking.  My attention span is pretty poor but I seem to be able to deal with many many things about as well as one or two. Consequently I tend to have a decent number windows open.</p><p>Right now I have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:23:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						How on earth do you find stuff in 100 tabs? I find it's getting cluttered over about 5. If I find anything I expect to need to refer to I favourite it (in Google, so I can see it from home/work).
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>This works very smoothly on a 2.4GHz iMac, but I wonder if it'll be so sweet on a Windows PC, or an older Mac, especially one with not much memory installed &mdash; the beta is presently hogging a lot of the 2GB I'm packing. We'll see how it goes when…</blockquote>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No Chrome on the Mac for a while yet, unfortunately.</p></blockquote><p>That strikes me as retarded. Given it's based on webkit, shouldn't it be about the easiest port ever?</p><p>Maybe it's something to do with the process per tab thing.</p><blockquote><p>It'll be interesting to see how the two measure up --…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:10:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>This blogging thing seems to be working for Leo. He just came out after installing a five-CD shooter he bought on Trade Me (we had to copy the contents of disc 5 onto a flash drive; couldn't even make an iso, but it worked) and declared:</p><p>"This is the digital…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:05:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(So it'll probably turn out Chrome stole it from Opera. But who uses that besides a few complete weirdos?)</p></blockquote><p>Heh. I did see a blog comment earlier complaining that IT'S ALL STOLEN FROM OPERA AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.</p><blockquote><p>Chrome is really good, I'm torn between using Firefox with all…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:53:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						Oh the tabs on top thing came from Chrome as well &ndash; and I find it really super good. They're the best tabs in any browser I've used &ndash; it's great being able to just drag a tab off into it's own window so easily, say if you've started a…
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				<title>richard</title>
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						<p>I installed Safari 4 this afternoon &mdash; it IS very fast, and the "12 sites in one frame" feature makes me think that it might be time to get a 30 inch monitor. </p><p>But then my mail crashed twice in 5 minutes, and then I noticed the macintouch.com page from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:31:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He then pooped on his own aphorism by declaring that Javascript was invented by Sun Microsystems (it came out of Netscape early in the browser wars)</p></blockquote><p>Crikey, confusing Javascript with Java is a really noob mistake.</p><blockquote><p>but I wonder if it'll be so sweet on a Windows PC</p></blockquote><p>If you…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What is it that people are doing with their javascripts that need so much speed?</p></blockquote><p>AJAX (Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) &ndash; applications like GMail and Google Docs that run various forms of editor and the like in the local browser.</p><p>This wasn't really anticipated when Javascript was invented.</p>
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						<p>It's interesting that Apple have ceased naming their OSs after German tanks and moved to a Russian one:<br /><a href="http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/arms_systems/Land/Tanks/T-80/T-80UM1_Bars.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Snow Leopard</a></p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but Snow Leopard is very much announced.</p></blockquote><p>His response was 'we are the last to know'. I thought, yes the very last it seems.</p><p>But what I loved was the way you handed your purchase to a blue shirted guy wandering the floor. He ran your card through his handheld…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>tried to quiz a supposed Apple tech head about Snow Leopard at the 5th Ave Apple store two weeks back. He claimed complete ignorance of it, never heard of it, which both surprised and bemused me.</p></blockquote><p>How odd. Commenting on unannounced products will get you killed at Apple, but Snow…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Loading ads, mostly.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, that's right, I remember when I used to get those. Fair enough, for those who want the ads to load faster, a fat-arse client is a good thing. And a really fat pipe to the net too.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						tried to quiz a supposed Apple tech head about Snow Leopard at the 5th Ave Apple store two weeks back. He claimed complete ignorance of it, never heard of it, which both surprised and bemused me. I guess it was as yet outside his assigned compartment.
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				<title>mikey</title>
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						<p>I think I'm going to enjoy the coverflow style history at home also...</p><p>If only for that endearing wee habit the old man has every time he happens to pop round and just happens to borrow my intertubes for the TAB.</p><p>Before he stands up, he closes every single window…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What is it that people are doing with their javascripts that need so much speed?</p></blockquote><p>Loading ads, mostly.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sometimes I'll open a few more just to get it up to three figures. Impresses the kids.</p></blockquote><p>You're the Yo-Yo-Ma of web browsing.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Leo says: "He's not wasting the internet, he's sitting on it. It's your throne, dad. Because nothing says the internet is your b<strong></strong> like having a hundred tabs open."</p><p>I honestly don't know where he gets these ideas. The internet, probably.</p></blockquote><p>That and all those disreputable people you keep letting…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Next you'll be telling us that they like your funky middle-aged white man dance moves.</p></blockquote><p>Or best of all, when I start busting some rhymes! But, as I always explain to them, sometimes it's a dad's <em>job</em>  to be annoying.</p><blockquote><p>I'm going to translate "impresses" as: "yeah Dad, great, well…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						What is it that people are doing with their javascripts that need so much speed? Whatever became of the idea of thin clients?
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				<title>Jonathan Maze</title>
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						Don't know anything about Macs really except that I find itunes annoying but perhaps no worse than any other bossy you-must-do-it-this-way media hub.  I use  Google Chrome browser for windows which is fantastic.  All the useless stuff has been stripped away, and a lovely clean interface.  The add-ons in Firefox…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:30:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sometimes I'll open a few more just to get it up to three figures. Impresses the kids.</p></blockquote><p>Next you'll be telling us that they like your funky middle-aged white man dance moves.</p><p>I'm going to translate "impresses" as: "yeah Dad, great, well done, you're the bomb. Can we have the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:26:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do you routinely keep 100 tabs open? Let's explore this.</p></blockquote><p>Sometimes I'll open a few more just to get it up to three figures. Impresses the kids.</p><p>The upshot of that kind of use is that I usually had to force-quit Safari 3.</p><p>The <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/02/leaked-snow-leo.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">portents for Snow Leopard</a> are good:…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:18:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We'll see how it goes when I have 100 tabs open.</p></blockquote><p>Do you routinely keep 100 tabs open? Let's explore this.</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						Am I the only person that dislikes the Powershop banners? Especially the one with the plugs that seems to capture my cursor with a tractor beam.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:03:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What? You can't leave us hanging like that.</p></blockquote><p>Replacement para:</p><blockquote><p>This works very smoothly on a 2.4GHz iMac, but I wonder if it'll be so sweet on a Windows PC, or an older Mac, especially one with not much memory installed &mdash; the beta is presently hogging a lot of…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't help but notice that Safari's...</p></blockquote><p>What? You can't leave us hanging like that.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>In some ways I think Javascript is inherently a bit ropey for creating AJAX websites. Maybe what's really needed is a built-in (as opposed to integrated through Flash/Sliverlight/whatever) IL interpreter that runs instructions compiled from whatever implementation tools were used to make the site.</p><p>Also, and this is much easier,…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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