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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>"bout time too</p><p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/haneef-released-charges-dropped/2007/07/27/1185339250715.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/haneef-released-charges-dropped/2007/07/27/1185339250715.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>I was just about to pick up some stones to throw at this Pray Healing Centre when I saw the word Free.</p><p>If they give care and support to those in need good on them.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4140568a11.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/4140568a11.html</a></p><p><br />A bit concerned at the report they're setting out to cure cancer though.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:35:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>I believe Trad Chinese justice sentences the accuser to the same sentence as the accused would have got if found guilty.</p><p>15years sounds like a good start.  </p><p>I quite favour this as a legal concept</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:51:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The reports also claimed that Haneef was allegedly one of a group of doctors who had been learning to fly in Queensland.</p></blockquote><p>Ah yes, only pilots should be allowed to learn to fly. I've always been suspicious of <strong>Paul Holmes</strong>' motives for learning to fly. I mean, why would a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:23:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The cops made the shit up . . .</p></blockquote><p>Haneef gave his sim card to a stingray &ndash; or maybe a dingo.</p><p>As someone once said about 'Honest John' Howard, he's called honest just like red-haired people are called Blue.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:12:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						Yeah, I read the Herald story this morning and it looks like a clear cut case of making shit up. I wonder how many ppl in Gitmo are there for the same BS reasons? Like all good Gulags they only let you out when you sign a confession admitting your…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:12:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy Oi Oi Oi<br />The cops made the shit up and the sim card was left in Liverpool!<br /><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22117157-601,00.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22117157-601,00.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:02:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Anyone donated to GreenPeace lately?</p><p>Labour introduced the new Terrorism laws where any activity that hampers business is Terrorism (wee exception for employee based union activity).</p><p>Save Happy Valley are Terrorists under Phill Goffs law. <br />You know those guys saving snails (dying to tie this to the French &amp; Rainbow warrior…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:52:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>Outrageous, but also 'modern justice'.  Here's another scenario:</p><p>You buy one of those 'Pressie Cards' at the PostShop, load it with a $50 value and give it to your mate for his birthday. Your mate buys fertiliser at the local hardware shop and makes a bomb. The Police find the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:27:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Absolutely Outrageous.<br />Stay with your cousin 2yrs ago &amp; when you left you gave him your cell phone.<br />Now you face 15yrs behind bars.</p><p><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/07/14/1184438112407.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/07/14/1184438112407.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:14:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p><em>    why wait? see it here:<br />    Michael Moore's Sicko</p><p>Because that is one of many illegal copies flooding the internet after a video file was stolen by </em>_</p><p><br />Call me old-fashioned but I thought it was an official site!  Surely Mr Moore coulda/shoulda had the site shut down by now…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:22:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						D'oh.  Wrong thread.  Administrator, hope me!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:59:02 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Buy Snow Crash, go to a decent second-hand bookshop (Browsers if you're up this way) and just buy it. You'll be reading it more than once anyway.</p></blockquote><p>Pity the last third is loses the plot and the 'facts' about linguistics are complete crap.</p><p>I made the mistake of the starting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:58:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Call me old-fashioned but I feel we should respect Michael Moore's efforts by at least paying for a ticket to see the film in a cinema.</p></blockquote><p>His efforts might have deserved respect had his motivation been anything other than money and self-aggrandisement.</p><p>His recent conversion to the cause of health…</p>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>why wait? see it here:<br />Michael Moore's Sicko</p></blockquote><p>Because that is one of many illegal copies flooding the internet after a video file was stolen by someone working in the post-production studio (several weeks before the film received its cinematic release). Call me old-fashioned but I feel we should respect…</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Ego is a nasty little thing at times.<br />Denounce your superior or colleague as a Jew/Socialist/Homosexual (although not many we in this camp)/Slav and you are embraced by the Party and promoted in your profession.<br />As most of these professionals were middle class with ties to defunct nobility. The ego…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>His key objection seemed to be that some hidden group of people would become crazily rich if the US instituted such a system. He wasn't able to explain who these people would be, except to say that wherever government intervenes someone becomes rich.</blockquote>I can understand how an American might get…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(which is a pity really, it would have been quite fun to have you out flank me from the left :) )</p></blockquote><p>Heh... but I'm beginning to feel more and more sympathy with the historian Robert Conquest, who once said what was really needed on the political scene was a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:11:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>why wait? see it here:<br /><a href="http://insanefilms.com/?p=413" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Moore's <strong>Sicko</strong></a></p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p><em>His key objection seemed to be that some hidden group of people would become crazily rich if the US instituted such a system.</em></p><p>As opposed to the <em>in plain sight</em> crazily rich HMO's ???</p>
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				<title>Bronwen Joyner</title>
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						All I ever hear about when I talk to colleagues and friends in Virginia is about 'oh but aren’t there horrible waiting lists', and ‘isn't the medical care really bad?'  This issue seems such a no brainer to me and no matter how good the medical care is here (if…
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				<title>Andrew Wilson</title>
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						That Fox clip was magnificent because no one laughed and said 'just kidding!' I don't know how they do that...
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I had a similarly weird experience discussing socialised medicine with an American the other day. His key objection seemed to be that some hidden group of people would become crazily rich if the US instituted such a system. He wasn't able to explain who these people would be, except to…
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Only the names have changed really.</p><p><a href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pogues/streets+of+sorrowbirmingham+six_20109737.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pogues/streets+of+sorrowbirmingham+six_20109737.html</a><br />Pogues lyrics of Birmingham six still have a ring of truth to them.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw45mKWAGKg&amp;mode=related&amp;search=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw45mKWAGKg&amp;mode=related&amp;search=</a><br />Christy Moore Scapegoats</p>
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						<p>aaarrgghhh...worst typo thus far. I'm talking about Paul Krugman, not to him, and the link's meant to be for the rest of you.</p><p>Sigh....time...to.....switch....to......backup.....brain.......</p>
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						<p>Paul Krugman,</p><p>Has a good go at the terrorists and socialised health care thing in the NYT. <a href="http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/07/paul-krugman-he.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">open link</a></p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><em>Terrorists look for loop-holes in any system. They found one in the Bristish immigration checks for medical physicians</em></p><p>Yes, they were obviously ultra-sophisticated international terrorists. Clearly the one and only gap in their skills was not realising that <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/02/terror_idiocy_outbreak" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">petrol isn't an explosive</a></p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Craig &ndash; Don't you think those old number from the 1930's might be be for reasons others than being a doctor. </p><p>There would probably be a correlation between wealth and party membership that might be more insightful or any number of other clues. </p><p>Just no sure you can drwa the…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>when did anyone start taking Fox News &ndash; esp. Neil Cavuto seriously? </p><p>In this recent vid, Tommy appears on FOX News' 'Your World' show to talk about immigration with the painfully smug Bush apologist Neil Cavuto, who doesn't quite know how to react to Chong's repeated assertion that President Bush…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						Terrorists look for loop-holes in any system. They found one in the Bristish immigration checks for medical physicians. They used it. Simple as that.
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>"if one of your guys is a jihadist, if one of your doctors is spending all the time online reading Osama bin Laden fatwas, someone's going to notice that. But the National Health Service is more like the Post Office, you know there's a lot of anonymity, it's easy to…</blockquote>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I think I read somewhere that the NHS had a substantially smaller admin overhead than other organisations of similar size and complexity.
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What about all the money wasted on faceless bureaucrats and unnecessary form filling by our GPs?</p></blockquote><p>Stories told to me by friends about their experiences with the US health system, insurance companies, etc, make our system look sane and efficient in comparison.</p><p>Seriously, monkeys on acid could design a better…</p>
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						<p>Sorry Craig my last post was missing a tag. It should have ended with<br />[/sarcasm] (which is a pity really, it would have been quite fun to have you out flank me from the left :) )</p><p>Don,</p><p>Just in case your post doesn't end with the same tag: bureaucracies…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Terence, surely this cannot be true:</p><blockquote><p>Efficiency: On indicators of efficiency, the U.S. ranks last among the six countries, with the U.K. and New Zealand ranking first and second, respectively.</p></blockquote><p>What about all the money wasted on faceless bureaucrats and unnecessary form filling by our GPs?</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>This link I guess Craig: <a href="http://www.badscience.net/?p=442#more-442" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.badscience.net/?p=442#more-442</a>?</p><p>A lot of scientists joined or supported the Nazis (von Braun and Heisenburg, for instance). I'd suggest that early 20th century scientific training was pretty narrow and that, combined with German attitudes to authority, led to them accepting Nazism without too much thought (for…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Frankly, there are valid reasons for concern about having to constantly import doctors doctors trained in other systems.</p></blockquote><p>Not the least of which is that it implies that the local education system is failing. If you can't channel the money going into the education system (not an inconsiderable amount) into…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm wondering if the high percentage of doctors joining the Nazi party might have had something to do with the widespread acceptance of eugenics in western societies during the early twentieth century.</p></blockquote><p>I would imagine it was more of a high-society thing. When certain members of the community join the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gasp! we could be a target. Heck we'd better scrap the system pronto: party vote ACT this election. That's what I say.</p></blockquote><p>Well, if you're that worried about dirty furriners prodding your nethers before they strap a bomb to Granny's new hip &mdash; and judging from the accents and skin…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not trying to get this thread Godwined, but while it would be nice to think putting your kids though medical school would act as a vaccine against being a religious fanatic or a murderous ideological bigot, it doesn't work like that.</p></blockquote><p>I'm wondering if the high percentage of doctors…</p>
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				<title>Terence Wood</title>
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						Well there you go. Silly old me. I'd always been in favour of a health care system where the state plays a core role for the simple reason that it is <a href="http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2007/05/an_internationa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">demonstrably more efficient</a> (if you want to guarantee provision in any way). But I'd never thought about those Jihadis…
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						<blockquote><p>I find it hard to think of any demographic less likely to become terrorists than doctors. They have a lot to live for, and live to heal.</p></blockquote><p>I'd like to think so. But Ben Goldacre dug up a rather disturbing factoid,  in passing, in the column I linked to in…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That's a great piece by Craig. But I did enjoy the irony of his "and pay careful attention" admonishon to his listeners :-)</p></blockquote><p>Fair cop, you could almost hear me waggling my finger in a school-marmish way. :)  But, really, if you're going to use the plural form of 'group'…</p>
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						<p><em>Any fifteen year old with internet access should be able to make a bomb</em></p><p>I tried hard and only managed to singe my eyebrows. It's the KNO3 that's hard to get. Plus the right grade of sulphur and charcoal. Plus your proportions are wrong &ndash; read Clive Ponting's book "Gunpowder"…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Could even be the subject of one of Russell's monthly story gathering initiatives</p></blockquote><p>Encyclopaedia Britannica, open science classroom window, hey presto &ndash; gunpowder.  70% carbon, 20% sulphur, 10% potassium nitrate (memory hazy).  1987 I think...</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>I seem to remember trying to give "The Devil Dared Me To" guys some money when they were selling patches on Dick's suit.</p><p>It was a very hard transaction to complete, unsurprising when you see the 20/20 segment.</p>
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						<p>Must. Leave. America. Now.</p><p>(where Now == 16 days, and counting)</p><p>I almost got the cable people to put a block on FoxNews, 'cos I was starting to throw things at the screen when I surfed past.</p><p>Of course, my next major stop after the US is the UK..... (sigh).</p>
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						<p>That's a great piece by Craig. But I did enjoy the irony of his "and pay careful attention" admonishon to his listeners :-)</p><blockquote><p>Any fifteen year old with internet access should be able to make a bomb.</p></blockquote><p>This was the case even before the advent of the internet. Could even…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and to perpetually perceive threat.</p></blockquote><p>and then there is the "new" threat to Bali and Indonesia as per the new MFAT travel advisory from Australia. I was told yesterday by a neigbour from their consulate that there is no new information or threat, just a worry that too many Australians…</p>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>McVeigh was trying to make a point about the injustice of the 1st Gulf War, admittedly in a wacko way.</p><p>Interesting the fear that foreign Drs will import their problems with them (problems largely exported by the west). <br />Contrast this with the Yarpie at Waikato DHB looking to exclude 'ineligible'…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>I'm more worried about how good they are. Any fifteen year old with internet access should be able to make a bomb. Boy scouts would do it. A wacko like McVeigh could do it.<br />These guys dump some petrol and gas cannisters in- yeah, two mercedes, just to prove they're…</p>
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				<title>Joe Boden</title>
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						Time to ramp up the smoke machine against "socialized" medicine again... Bill and Hillary had the temerity to suggest moving to such a scheme, and look what it got them.
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						<p>I find it hard to think of any demographic less likely to become terrorists than doctors. They have a lot to live for, and live to heal.</p><p>What a quack. Need any more really be said?</p>
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