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Steve Barnes

Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:15:36 +1200

So, there seems to be four of us using Opera. I had a good look at Chrome when it first arrived and was struck by its speed and the separated processes for each tab. I had a dig around in its guts and saw a fledgling OS, albeit one based…

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:10:03 +1200

Hey Steve: did you get froyo (2.2) with the device, on OTA update, or did you use an unofficial download?

Have had no OTA update and considering the unofficial route

Steve Withers

Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:13:01 +1200

At home, I use the Chrome beta for Linux alongside the nightly dev builds of Chromium. The difference between the two is amazing. The nightly builds have been blazingly fast lately.

But at work I'm using Chrome on a Windows Server 2008 system. Must read hard news at home. :-)…

tussock

Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:25:21 +1200

I've recently moved to Firefox 3.x series from 2.0.0.xx (everything is incompatible given time), and it's a crashy POS in comparison.

Or possibly it's just the new Flash 10, which came at the same time. Must strip a few things from the noscript whitelist again.

Yay for linux, four years…

Russell Brown

Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:01:00 +1200

I'm a Safari user: I prefer it to Firefox, and I haven't really had a good enough look at Chrome for Mac, which came a long time after the Windows version. Safari 5's belated support for extensions means I only launch Firefox for the web video that's really hard to…

David Hamilton

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:08:17 +1200

Why I recommend Chrome for everyday browsing:

Chrome is fast to load, fast to render and has a good javascript engine. Each tab runs as it's own process (meaning you don't lose all your tabs if one crashes, like with Firefox). Not that I've seen one crash actually. You can…

Lucy Stewart

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:03:33 +1200

I'd guess a fair number of the Safari users are simply the same as many Windows/IE users; it's the default and it's not actually terrible (not that that affected pre-IE 7 use, anyhow...) My quite tech-savvy parents use it, just because it's there. My younger brother has installed and uses…

recordari

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:53:11 +1200

PC Gone Mad? Don't worry, I'll sic me Mac on it. (sic)

I'm feeling a bit out of touch that I hadn't seen this before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_kGL3M5Cg&feature=related

David Hood

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:37:10 +1200

I can't think of any of the major browers that won't cannibalise the others bookmarks upon installation.
Because our broadband connection has been really flakey at peak times lately, the main thing I've valued in browsers are keyboard shortcuts for killing javascript, images, and styles (which means at bad times…

3410

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:32:06 +1200

Hmm. I should check that, but either way, I wouldn't know what to switch to.

Sacha

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 +1200

You can import them into most other browsers, surely?

3410

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:23:14 +1200

Firefox went from a small, fast browser to a memory hog.

True, dat. I'd switch to something else but I can't yet be bothered rebuilding my bookmarks list.

giovanni tiso

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:20:17 +1200

I use Vito, my burly Italian cousin browser. It promotes adoption by dropping by other browsers and making comments such as "nice cascading stylesheets you have here, it would be a pity if something were to happen to them". Expect it to rise in the rankings quite quickly.

Daniel

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:17:26 +1200

Ooh, ooh, do me! Opera mini, on a Nokia 5130 (Nokia OS/ISA I assume?) from Canada?

Andre Alessi

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:13:44 +1200

I started using Chrome after Firefox went from a small, fast browser to a memory hog. It'd slow down my 8 GB gaming system just by being open with two tabs and with no addons beyond NoScript and AdBlock plus.

I want a browser that lets me browse the Internet,…

Jackie Clark

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:12:51 +1200

Browsers are a funny thing. I am madly, deeply in love with Firefox, and use it both on the Mac and the PC – at home, and at work. It has it's issues – mine seems to get a headache from time to time (with apologies to Emma) and just…

Sacha

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:49:01 +1200

Was going to say 'dudes'

I hoped someone would – for Craig's sake

PC Gone Mad

great thread title

giovanni tiso

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:57:13 +1200

PC Gone Mad.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:41:18 +1200

The Dark Ram Returns...

... tempted to dig out the old PC in the roof space

one day this will be the strapline to a very modern horror story!

David Hood

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:52:47 +1200

I use Opera on the Mac when reading public address on my work machine (and I'll thank Russell not to list the usage stats of that particular combo :) mostly because it keeps my personal stuff separate from my work activities (Safari with occasional dips into Firefox +Web Developer Extension…

Islander

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:49:02 +1200

Chrome = Google.
Google = copyright thief in a huge way.
I dont own any kind of Google tarpit, and am quite sure I will find adequate alternatives when I decide to investigate cellphones and/or ereaders and/or alternative OSs-

Phil Lyth

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:28:07 +1200

Chrome

In Dick Smith today replacing a defunct router, and their signage is reminding everyone to upgrade to Windows 2010 in September (IIRC). There's a pre-Christmas thought.

I don't like all that bold text

What Dalziel said, only he did it so much sooner and gooder.

recordari

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:10:50 +1200

did someone say dues
or didjoo say jews...
whoops, wrong thread

Do you have a gold pass there or sumptin?

Was going to say 'dudes' but thought better of it, until now.

bmk

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:52:13 +1200

These statistics come from Google Analytics, which gives us 89,519 visits and 276,648 page views as of this morning (most of the other figures were current as of yesterday afternoon when I wrote most of the post, number nerds). Our internal log records give us 160,008 visits and 687,411 page…

Matthew Poole

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:31:00 +1200

Has Google lost a bit of mana re: privacy?

Not so much privacy as just insane levels of ubiquity. They own your search, they quite possibly own your email, they want to own your phone (I'm getting an HTC Desire as my next toy), and computer (we've all heard that…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:29:01 +1200

I blame Emma Hart.
Must also give Craig his dues

did someone say dues
or didjoo say jews...
whoops, wrong thread ;- )
– but coincidentally I see Kinky Friedman
is through with politics and going back
to writing books and music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ZMj5RksbE

Michael Hogan

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:13:15 +1200

Cheers. Sounds like a browser "developed for developers" Will give it a whirl when I do the full monty over to Mac. Right now Firefox/XP has kept me pretty happy. Burnt once, smart twice on early adapting...!

Heather Gaye

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:36:27 +1200

I would however, love to know what all the fuss is with Chrome, and if it is so great, why is uptake so slow amongst your tech saavy (sadly not me) audience? Has Google lost a bit of mana re: privacy?

I doubt it. My guess is twofold:

a) Firefox…

Samuel Scott

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:28:37 +1200

The old G3 OS 10.2 tower at the recording studio seems to be waaaaay faster with Opera than any other browser...especially for watching Dane Rumble videos on youtube.

recordari

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:24:36 +1200

Almost tempted to dig out the old PC in the roof space and fire up Netscape 2.0. 'Why?' seems like a valid question at this point however.

What's so good about Chrome?

Thinking of all the platform combinations and browser variants a developer needs to check (although it isn't quite…

Michael Hogan

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:07:28 +1200

As a long time Firefox fan, I am not surprised at these stats,(except the dial up and Netscape wonders – even IE is still a bit surprising...) I would however, love to know what all the fuss is with Chrome, and if it is so great, why is uptake so…

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:53:13 +1200

damn my konqueror accesses just don't rate I guess – or do I show just up as safari (a distant descendent via webkit)

Nah, I think Konqueror's in there somewhere.

recordari

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:44:26 +1200

This reminds me of using HitList way back in the 90s. Used to love trying to work out how the search strings arrived at our page. One I recall was; 'what causes flatulent'.

Yes sir!
41 visits at an average 3.34 pages and 5.39 mins.

Now you're just scaring me.…

Sacha

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:11:16 +1200

I blame Emma Hart.

Must also give Craig his dues

Paul Campbell

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:11:08 +1200

damn my konqueror accesses just don't rate I guess – or do I show just up as safari (a distant descendent via webkit)

Geoff Lealand

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:59:21 +1200

We are all certainly part of a mass...one could say a critical mass

But at what piint did Firefox take over the world?

Sam F

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:55:12 +1200

1. Some of us (well, me at least) use IE at work and Firefox at home – so the numbers don't necessarily reflect the preference of the users – although they can't be far off.

Currently using IE 7 here, but it's always Firefox at home.

Haven't given Chrome a…

Jonathan Maze

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:35:42 +1200

Fascinating stats. I love Chrome, Firefox may as well be IE 6 by comparison.

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:25:23 +1200

The most prolific traffic source that's not an ISP or network provider is … Wilson & Horton! Hi, guys!

It actually only just occurred to me that APN's network is still identifying itself out there as Wilson & Horton, which it hasn't been for ages. Funny.

cindy baxter

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:18:05 +1200

RIP netscape

chris

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:12:25 +1200

fascinating

Julian Melville

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:03:33 +1200

I would have been one of the HTC Android jobbies for sure – and also not logged in, because I would have been clicking through from an RSS reader to read the article/comments but not bothering to type a response from there.

Looks lovely on handheld BTW, very readable.

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:54:43 +1200

I actually read the site quite a lot from by BlackBerry here in Singapore so I'm surprised that 100% are new visitors.

Sorry, I phrased that poorly. There was a bunch of new handsets amongst the new visitors count.

Nick Melchior

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:31:59 +1200

I actually read the site quite a lot from by BlackBerry here in Singapore so I'm surprised that 100% are new visitors. It might be the way the IP is calculated/assigned perhaps?

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:57:26 +1200

Can you see my Android + bugged opera mini setup?

Yes sir!

41 visits at an average 3.34 pages and 5.39 mins.

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:47:37 +1200

The stats (particularly unique users) are easily screwed by the heuristics being used

Tell me about it. The difference between the unique users counts of Nielsen, Google Analytics and our internal stats is remarkable. Unfortunately, miserly old Nielsen is regarded as the standard for advertisers.

Mike Graham

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:43:41 +1200

A couple of thoughts that occurred to me while reading the stats:
1. Some of us (well, me at least) use IE at work and Firefox at home – so the numbers don't necessarily reflect the preference of the users – although they can't be far off.
2. One corporate…

Grace Dalley

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:41:55 +1200

...though I wouldn't shun a comprehensile tail (for grasping tale content faster and firmer...)

ROTFL! Ian, that's perfect.

Emma Hart

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:35:58 +1200

Explain it to that poor bastard in Azerbaijan.

There is really nothing I can do for anyone who can fail to find porn on the internet.

Jimmy D

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:35:39 +1200

The stats (particularly unique users) are easily screwed by the heuristics being used – so little wonder that your internal log differs from analytics (which is likely to be more authoritative.) Still, glad to see Linux represented by over 3000 users!

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:33:26 +1200

Oh, admit it, that's why I'm here.

Oh, don't tell it to me. Explain it to that poor bastard in Azerbaijan.

Emma Hart

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:30:42 +1200

probably got here accidentally while searching for porn. I blame Emma Hart.

Oh, admit it, that's why I'm here.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:25:11 +1200

I don't like all that bold text

whereas I...
...don't mind it. Used judiciously and constructively (as Russell has), it aids my simian navigation systems, scanning through the dense verbiage for branches of substance, rather than flailing through a blur of twigs and laterals looking for structure...

...though I wouldn't…

Brent Jackson

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:08:55 +1200

Russell wrote :

Sorry. It just looked too dense (and I didn't have time to drop in any images), so I bolded up the key words.

C'mon. Admit it. You're just trying to make it easy for those Wilson&Hortonists to turn this into a newspaper article ...

Samuel Scott

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:08:30 +1200

I love these sorts of stats. I'm going to go look up the Phoenix Foundation ones now. We had some really bizarre ones when Eagle Vs Shark was touring European film festivals.

Our mail subscriber email client stats are a bit surprising; 30.4% Apple Mail, 7% iPhone, 14% outlook...1% gmail…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:59:36 +1200

Can you see my Android + bugged opera mini setup?

Russell Brown

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:59:33 +1200

I don't like all that bold text

Sorry. It just looked too dense (and I didn't have time to drop in any images), so I bolded up the key words.

John Holley

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:56:37 +1200

So when do we get a mobile version Russell? :)

Robyn Gallagher

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:53:58 +1200

I don't like all that bold text. It's like this shock romp with typography has turned Hard News into The Sun. It draws my
eye to places I don't want it to go.

Can't you just assume that readers can read and will honour your writing by just reading it,…

Grace Dalley

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:47:10 +1200

0000010000001100001110000011 (binary solo)

James Butler

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:47:05 +1200

I see I'll have to read PA from my FreeBSD box more often if I'm to beat your Solaris (SunOS) user. Consider this a challenge, unnamed unix user!

Public Address

Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:20:36 +1200

Discussion from blog post.