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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p><q>Seventh along bottom row, from under the table.</q>which I'm reading as "disturbed enlightenment" <br />(also from under the table, given another drink or two)</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/apr/14/psychedelic-renaissance-could-mdma-help-with-ptsd-depression-and-anxiety" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/apr/14/psychedelic-renaissance-could-mdma-help-with-ptsd-depression-and-anxiety</a></p><p>If anyone is interested. The last 50 years of DEA horse shit has been a disaster, and now da'trump cretins.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:16:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>So, point to the emoji that describes what you are experiencing now…</q><br />2 down,<br />8 along.<br />O )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 16:06:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q> brain stimulation treatments.</q></p><p>I hope any sort of enjoyment doesnt get discharged....  If you know what I mean...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:58:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>They seem to be having success in various areas with running much lower currents through areas of the brain to stimulate it – it need not be up in the ‘convulsive’ order of charge.</q></p><p>Yeah, Suresh talked about that when I interviewed him – noting that the research he's doing…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>This looked interesting...<br /><a href="http://www.brokenfrontier.com/crawl-space-jesse-jacobs-koyama-press/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.brokenfrontier.com/crawl-space-jesse-jacobs-koyama-press/</a><br />more<br /><a href="http://www.tcj.com/reviews/crawl-space/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.tcj.com/reviews/crawl-space/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2019 10:56:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>shocking developments</strong><br />They seem to be having success in various areas with running much lower currents through areas of the brain to stimulate it &ndash; it need not be up in the 'convulsive' order of charge.</p><p>We are after all, all Galvanic beings...</p><p>see <br /><a href="https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/your-brain-on-electricity/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://healthtalk.unchealthcare.org/your-brain-on-electricity/</a></p><p><strong>We are what we eat...</strong>…</p>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>Similar brain effects to these have been seen with electroconvulsive therapy.</q></p><p>The 60s gave ECT a bad press. It’s actually a very effective treatment with relatively few side effects.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:05:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>For some reason, <a href="https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/59d735/active-ingredient-in-shrooms-could-reset-brains-of-depressed-people?utm_source=vicefbuk&amp;fbclid=IwAR3XZyCSkx6uboiTxtxGaEkEwk9SBB1QXBwGhapbZHuBCMzjLo7NQ_KxAvw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this 2017 Vice story on one of the Imperial College studies</a> (perhaps one of the ones Suresh worked on, I haven't checked) washed up in my Facebook feed.</p><p><q>"Several of our patients described feeling 'reset' after the treatment and often used computer analogies," Robin Carhart-Harris, who led the…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2019 08:26:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Speaking of 'dreamtime' which no one was specifically, but almost...<br />There was an excellent documentary on Maori TV tonight (by Werner Herzog) about the internet and its impact on society, called: <strong> 'Lo and Behold: Reveries of the connected World' </strong>- well worth a look if you can find it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:28:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						A fascinating watch! And, yes, me too with the incredibly hands on approach. Also, quite a lot of leading questions.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Suresh is a real treasure :-) by the sound of it</q></p><p>He's great. And I respect that fact that he's determinedly not an advocate, just an open-minded scientist.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:57:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						Suresh is a real treasure :-)  by the sound of it
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 10:14:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>If anyone wants some Saturday viewing, the 1966 NBC feature on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Grove_Experiment" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Spring Grove Experiments</a> is worth a look:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esx_uvr3Rf4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esx_uvr3Rf4</a></p><p>The outcomes from nearly 20 years of treating mental illness and alcoholism were largely (but not universally) positive. But watching it now, I was horrified at times by the style…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 10:06:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Bill Wilson, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous experimented with psychedelic therapy.</q></p><p>He was a huge fan and actually tried to persuade his colleagues in the organisation to embrace it.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Fascinating discussion. I’m strongly reminded of discussions about toxins – the rule is that everything is toxic, it just depends on the dose. And the same thing kept coming up here – it’s the dose that’s important for the effect.</p><p>The obvious problem is that without good trials you can’t…</q></p>
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						<p>Ketamine for depression in NZ. I've been watching progress on this and might put my hand up for a try when it's available.</p><p><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111644630/ketamine-could-have-big-impact-on-nzs-struggle-with-depression" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/111644630/ketamine-could-have-big-impact-on-nzs-struggle-with-depression</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2019 19:25:19 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q>the form was mainly in Hindi but with the odd english word</q>Language use in India always deserves a footnote! The language spoken in the station office was most likely Hindustani, a colloquial dialect of Northern India used as a lingua franca throughout the Indian rail system, and also used in…
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						<p><q> left had right hand protocols are culturally significant in his environment. </q></p><p><br /> I know because of the food consumption/ toileting protocols in those cultures left handedness may cause problems I didnt know it extended to writing I guess it does.</p>
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						<p><q> pedantic compliance to endless inventions of extra rules just because, </q></p><p>otherwise known as Bureaucratic Arse Covering. So in the unlikely event of anything happening its not their fault, they dont have to pay for any cost incurred its on your head, they might sue you for unsafe work practice, revoke…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>...but all that pedantic compliance to endless inventions of extra rules just because...</q></p><p>Indeed.  We had two tradies in the house the other day and one of them was wearing these...<a href="https://colorex.co.nz/shop/products/plastering-tools/plasterers-red-stilts/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://colorex.co.nz/shop/products/plastering-tools/plasterers-red-stilts/</a>  .</p><p>The other thought they might be the answer to his problem.</p><p>His firm was sub contracting to one…</p>
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						Sounds very healthy. How do you plan to avoid reinfection on you return? It can be a problem sometimes.  Thats if you plan to return long term ;-}
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Okay, the correct way to take acid, is with one of these.</q><br />The Merry Pranksters MC rides again!</p>
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						Of what?
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						<p>This is such refreshing progress and partially redeems me from annoying people for years with rants about the coming treatment 'revolution'. </p><p>I've been living with depression for decades and a recent diagnosis of dysthmia helped me understand its persistence. I've been using psychedelics (mainly LSD &amp; MDMA) for a couple of…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Fascinating discussion. I'm strongly reminded of discussions about toxins &ndash; the rule is that everything is toxic, it just depends on the dose. And the same thing kept coming up here &ndash; it's the dose that's important for the effect.</p><p>The obvious problem is that without good trials you can't…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Emma Hart transcribed it (6000+ words!)</q></p><p>Boy does my spellcheck know some new words now.</p>
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						Thanks to Emma and Bart :-)
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Great discussion thanks for transcribing it.</q></p><p>Heh. I just ran the discussion and published it. Emma Hart transcribed it (6000+ words!) and Bart Janssen made the kind offer to pay her for doing so. The drug policy panel from the same Splore session will be next.</p><p><q>What is being looked…</q></p>
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						<p>Great discussion thanks for transcribing it.<br />What is being looked for in risk assessment for ibogaine? Heart condition, physical or mental health, or does death just drop out of a clear blue sky? So to speak...<br />Did ayahuasca in NZ a very personal experience it was too, no black snakes…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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