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Ian Dalziel

Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:30:08 +1200

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/78445701/cycling-to-work-the-freedom-the-fun-and-the-death-threats

Russell Brown

Sun, 03 Apr 2016 19:32:39 +1200

The new, improved path from Hakanoa to Sackville Street, part of the Grey Lynn to Cox's Bay route. Not quite finished, but very nice.

Russell Brown

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:40:31 +1300

I use the current Grey Lynn Park to Richmond Rd route. If it is to be improved then I hope that includes provision for the privacy of the pensioner who lives in the flat next to the driveway between Sackville and Westmoreland street

That's a very fair point. It should.

Russell Brown

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:38:49 +1300

Agree with this Bart – the case for shared spaces providing more business not less seems to be clear from the evidence, even if it has yet to win over everyone *cough* High St *cough*.

Unity Books!

Apparently a bookshop with a large window display doesn't want more foot traffic.

Pat

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:04:58 +1300

Bart Janssen

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:00:01 +1300

Parking surveys show Mt Roskill Village (cnr Mt Albert & Dominion) has plenty of parking, as does Roskill South. The parking is primarily behind the shops

Apparently since Dominion Rd has two lanes at that point it's OK to park in the left lane to go into the post office ...…

Glenn Pearce

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:59:10 +1300

Is it true that Phase II of Nelson St cycleway from Union to Victoria St is estimated to cost $13.9 million?

Julie Fairey

Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:51:19 +1300

Agree with this Bart – the case for shared spaces providing more business not less seems to be clear from the evidence, even if it has yet to win over everyone *cough* High St *cough*.

I'm talking more about the dairies in particular that are on their own on an…

Sam F

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:02:47 +1300

Can I add to others’ points:

– For most people riding in to work in the city, for an 8:30 start or similar, you’d want to get there about 15-20 minutes earlier at least (unless you have a very short commute and don’t need to change or shower – and…

BenWilson

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:12:29 +1300

People from west Auckland: why don’t you use this new facility? Knowing the answer to this might help AT make better decisions in future.

I can answer, as a West Aucklander who commutes to the University. At first, this path seemed like a boon. But in practice, every exit is…

Russell Brown

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:05:39 +1300

I’m genuinely surprised at how clueless mayoral aspirant Vic Crone is.

From a report on an appearance with Goff at an East Tamaki business group:

Crone hit out at the CBD cycleways being constructed when other areas like Rodney are still waiting on sealed footpaths.

Presumably she plans to take…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:52:55 +1300

Putting aside the issue of on-street parking as car storage for private vehicles, we do need to think about what to do for convenience based businesses like dairies who won’t get business without P5 outside them, or foot traffic driven by being in a town centre, near a PT stop,…

Graham Dunster

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:45:44 +1300

"Putting aside the issue of on-street parking as car storage for private vehicles..." Building a garage is why AC awarded us an out of scope change, leaving the neighbouring similar houses protected. Issue solved for now, but yet another example of bureaucratic disjointed thinking.

We walk our dog along Oakley…

Russell Brown

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:07:56 +1300

Priorities much?

This is nuts!

Walter Nicholls

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:56:23 +1300

If we are to see any kind of meaningful uptake of bike-riding then a place needs to be made for us in the form of separated cycle paths.

And where places are made, cyclists clearly take them up as those statistics show(*). I regularly drive a car up Union St/PittSt…

Gareth Davidson

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:42:34 +1300

Meanwhile in Sydney this week, two cyclists got fined AUD425 each for "trackstanding" (stopping without putting your foot down) at an intersection, the police have deployed the riot squad to fine cyclists, whilst there was a major accident on the harbour bridge during peak hour that was causing traffic chaos…

Matthew Hooton

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:21:52 +1300

Perhaps because you are driving on a motorway and you have 99.9% of your attention on the high speed two-dimensional traffic matrix you are involved in?

I understand your point – but you are quite wrong to describe the Grafton Gully motorway between 8 and 9 am as a "high-speed"…

Julie Fairey

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:58:40 +1300

Excuse the multiple posts, above, responding to particular other posts, here is a more general one. May I point out the Puketapapa Greenways Plan, brainchild of former Local Board Chair Richard Barter, who continues to do sterling work advocating for implementation and local cycling initiatives to support increased use http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/AboutCouncil/representativesbodies/LocalBoards/Puketapapalocalboard/Pages/puketapapaplans.aspx#greenwaysplan…

Julie Fairey

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:38:26 +1300

Part of it is about the funding coming from different places. It is a lot easier for a Local Board to decide to widen a pathway (or install one) in a local park – not only does the Local Board control the budget it is also the landowner for the…

Julie Fairey

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:35:59 +1300

Hendry is absurd, and a constant bug bear. When I have time to bike and train into the city (rather than bus from very near my house) I cycle to Onehunga (which is mostly down hill) but on the way back I take the train to Mt Albert and cycle…

Katy

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:06:16 +1300

That’s going to be hard. Most of Auckland’s arterial roads are already widened to capacity. And motorists hate it when you take lanes away again.

So we just have to kowtow to motorists because they won't like it? Yes it's a hard fight, but no one said it was going…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:00:26 +1300

Luckily, Auckland Transport have cycle counters set up to do just that. Here are the official cycle count numbers from AT. They tend to go up year-on-year.

And here’s Transportblog’s summation on the cycle count from January.

sigh you and your data – next thing you'll be telling us Hosking…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:58:39 +1300

observer bias

Russell Brown

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:40:13 +1300

And from the same source, NW cycleway usage at Kingsland.

Russell Brown

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:39:03 +1300

And here’s Transportblog’s summation on the cycle count from January.

Perhaps the most interesting is that there was a large spike in usage of Grafton Gully (+29.9%) and Beach Rd (+23.5%).

That is interesting, as is Matt's guess as to why:

Monthly data suggests that while numbers had been improving,…

Russell Brown

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:35:02 +1300

Meanwhile, this lovely little NW cycleway underpass at Patiki Road opens at 2pm today, cyclists.

Gaze upon it and weep while NZTA bulldozes through yet another deadline at St Lukes Road, without an underpass.

Su Yin Khoo

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:34:31 +1300

Luckily, Auckland Transport have cycle counters set up to do just that. Here are the official cycle count numbers from AT. They tend to go up year-on-year.

And here's Transportblog's summation on the cycle count from January.
Perhaps the most interesting is that there was a large spike in usage…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:37:08 +1300

the doors of perception...
But on only a single occasion have I ever seen anyone cycling down it.
Perhaps because you are driving on a motorway and you have 99.9% of your attention on the high speed two-dimensional traffic matrix you are involved in?

I'm not sure what length of…

Matthew Hooton

Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:53:33 +1300

I drive on the motorway through Grafton Gully at least once a day when I am in Auckland. There is what looks to me to be a fantastic new cycleway that I understand allows people to cycle all the way from west Auckland to the CBD. I even reflect on…

Stephen Judd

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:12:27 +1300

PS: the NSW law changes are awful and the state roads minister is a dickhead.

Stephen Judd

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:09:46 +1300

It's unreasonable in general to say "if you want to do this lawful thing you have to obey some extra rules I just made up", but more so in this case.

Maybe that was a bit harsh. What I'm trying to get across is that if we can't get THEM,…

Moz

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:31:54 +1300

you need to lower speed accordingly. If you don't like it, don't use a shared path.

It's unreasonable in general to say "if you want to do this lawful thing you have to obey some extra rules I just made up", but more so in this case.

For example, I…

Walter Nicholls

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:45:18 +1300

what is needed is a culture change and big plan to enable cycling along all major and not so major main streets and roads in Auckland,

That's going to be hard. Most of Auckland's arterial roads are already widened to capacity. And motorists hate it when you take lanes away…

Walter Nicholls

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:40:14 +1300

projects to the East, South and West Maybe I have a case of "WIMBY" (Want In My Back Yard) but I'm not excited by any of the projects listed for the North Shore. They look like a case of building what is easy rather than what is needed. Who commutes…

Marc C

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:18:21 +1300

I understand your enthusiasm for the Grey Lynn route and so, but what is needed is a culture change and big plan to enable cycling along all major and not so major main streets and roads in Auckland, and this must be done by creating separate, designated cycle lanes, for…

Bart Janssen

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:19:55 +1300

It’s great the facilities are being utilised and locals may benefit from cycle lanes but these amenities are used by people from all over Auckland and NZ who, like it or not, travel to them in large numbers by car.

I know. But to some degree it's a chicken and…

jnorthover

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:19:25 +1300

I agree – the nw cycleway is fine until you come to the steep climb up to Newton Rd then K Rd then drop back down to Canada St. I understand a solution is being planned. It looks like a new detour off to Upper Queen St from which to…

Glenn Pearce

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:55:26 +1300

They could just use the lovely Auckland clay that people are digging out to build garages and pools on their properties to cap the landfill on the northern side and save some $ ;-)

Russell Brown

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:43:54 +1300

Yes – and the council has spent money on all-weather…

Glenn Pearce

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:34:12 +1300

Meola Rd has variously allowed and dis-allowed parking over the years, the trouble is there are well patronised amenities there all within close proximity that just don't have enough off street parking to cope.

Last Sunday was one of the worst I have seen in 20 years on Meola Rd,…

Glenn Pearce

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:23:30 +1300

Yes, well, the Central Interceptor is supposed to provide some of the answer, but there was some debate about whether Meola Creek would be made better or worse by that $800 million dollar project and still about 10 years away from completion.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10898489

I don't think Coxs Bay is in…

Bart Janssen

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:08:05 +1300

One thing that would make cycle paths much easier would be to stop accepting that people should be allowed to leave their cars blocking main transport routes.

Dan Salmon

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:38:53 +1300

I understand it's landfill related. Whether it's something that is continuously leaching or ancient toxic sludge trapped in the mud, i don't know. It would certainly be good to know, and to have some clarity on both the Meola area and Coxes Bay – where insanely we are still unable…

Russell Brown

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:39:39 +1300

Yes, I read the post, and I note how some good improvements are being made in the area where you live. But so far we get only some projects in certain areas, and there is this approach of “radiating out” from the inner city into the suburbs, that I read,…

Russell Brown

Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:24:18 +1300

If you’re talking east of Chamberlain, over St Lukes Road beside the motorway offramp, it’s still closed – in fact, they have now blown three successive deadlines since the contractors closed it off in late September.

We’re now told Easter but I struggle to believe it. It’s a full six…

Sam F

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:41:11 +1300

They have to have somewhere to drive and leave all those vehicles. They already requisitioned a stretch of the cycleway just past Chamberlain for this – I don’t know if that’s all done with yet.

If you're talking east of Chamberlain, over St Lukes Road beside the motorway offramp, it's…

Marc C

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:37:54 +1300

Yes, I read the post, and I note how some good improvements are being made in the area where you live. But so far we get only some projects in certain areas, and there is this approach of "radiating out" from the inner city into the suburbs, that I read,…

Mark Battley

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:43:11 +1300

To get back to the main topic – I'm a supporter of the "link up the parks" approach. It's relatively low cost to develop a few more paths, typically takes you through nice areas and you are further away from cars. Yeah, it may be slightly slower than the main…

Mark Battley

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:24:34 +1300

I'm all in favour of using bells on shared paths – somehow they seem more "polite" than other options. However they don't work so well when the pedestrians have headphones in... can take quite a few dings. Most pedestrians on the NW cycleway are considerate, presumably because there are so…

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:01:20 +1300

in particular the one that requires cyclists to maintain a 1m distance between themselves and pedestrians.

It seems unduly restrictive. It makes it essentially impossible to ever ride on a shared way if there are any pedestrians around, since pedestrians tend to move quite randomly on footpaths.

It’s a blunt…

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:48:10 +1300

Some of our shared paths by contrast have design that really encourages or at least doesn’t discourage bad behaviour.

Yes, a good one on Tamaki Drive is that the path marked for cyclists is the one that has the street lamp posts in the middle of it.

Stephen Judd

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:16:30 +1300

Oh, and I think the overall impact of the NSW changes is going to be bad for cycling numbers, without achieving much. Feels much more like a poke in the eye for greenies than a solution to a serious social problem.

On the whole I think both pedestrians and cyclists…

Stephen Judd

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:10:15 +1300

I'm a very keen commuting/utility cyclist, and I think we definitely need some cultural change about the use of bells on shared paths and speed on shared paths. I think you have to accept that if you're on a bike, on a shared path, pedestrians are going to do unpredictable…

Howard Edwards

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:29:50 +1300

I realise that a lot of people on this forum are cyclists, so I'd be interested in your reactions to the new cycling regulations proposed for New South Wales, and in particular the one that requires cyclists to maintain a 1m distance between themselves and pedestrians. My wife and I…

Katy

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:14:13 +1300

As for cyclewaying Ponsonby Rd, it’s hard to see it happening. Currently on any Friday or Saturday night the place essentially 6 lanes of taxis for several hundred meters. Parked, and standing in both lanes in both directions. There’s hordes of drunks wandering everywhere – hard to see where a…

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:59:02 +1300

As for cyclewaying Ponsonby Rd, it's hard to see it happening. Currently on any Friday or Saturday night the place essentially 6 lanes of taxis for several hundred meters. Parked, and standing in both lanes in both directions. There's hordes of drunks wandering everywhere – hard to see where a…

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:56:03 +1300

It seemed the perfect opportunity to have continued this flush with the motorway, rather than having to terminate in side roads and necessitate a dismount at the Zebra crossing.

Yes, this! I've been watching it the entire time during construction for signs of such an obvious improvement. They've literally built…

Nikki Whyte

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:54:41 +1300

Part of the path is the Waterview shared path (https://at.govt.nz/projects-roadworks/waterview-shared-path/) and I've just requested an update to the New Lynn shared path project page.

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:45:02 +1300

There’s definitely a plan for a connection from New Lynn to Waterview – along the railway line. Consultation imminent, I hear!

Would be awesome, although I'm a little confused about where that actually goes. It looks like it's along Oakley Creek, which I think is not really a practical commuter…

BenWilson

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:27:44 +1300

The Newton Road Problem will be subject to consultation in the next few months, and then, hopefully sooner than later, a new path will be made through the small reserve by the bridge to connect with a cycleway on Ian McKinnon Drive making for a single, easier climb.

That would…

Geoff Lealand

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:54:07 +1300

I just have to post this somewhere, after cycling to the university this morning: Sufjan Stevens at The Civic last night. Magnificent!

Apologies for the distraction.

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:47:22 +1300

At Patiki road and Te Atatu they have done wonderfully well tunnelling under the roads. Its a shame they haven’t done this at both St Lukes and Carrington Roads when other works at these sites would have allowed this. Have I missed something?

Agreed – it's annoying. The NW cycleway…

casahuia

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:35:13 +1300

And what plans for the major blip in the NW cycleway when crossing Carrington Road. With all the infrastructure at Waterview going in, why hasn't that been fixed? It seemed the perfect opportunity to have continued this flush with the motorway, rather than having to terminate in side roads and…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:17:55 +1300

Totally agree. I suppose I would prefer to see the funding/priority go to these on-street routes first, rather than upgrading park pathways and implementing large scenic cycleways.

But from my point of view, the Grey Lynn Park path isn’t just pleasant, it’s immensely practical and the most direct, flat route…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:10:15 +1300

Agreed – that’s quite a stiff climb. But there’s not a lot getting away from the fact that you are climbing 60-80m over a short distance to get to Hillsborough Rd from the Onehunga Foreshore.

That's a showstopper that makes the route beyond many cyclists. Can't see it being remedied,…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:08:52 +1300

Yes, though just for me personally Cox’s Bay park is the only one on the list that is near where I need to go regularly, and I would never ride in there on my own. Too many sharp turns and stairs which mean I have to either dismount or slow…

Allan MacLachlan

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:57:05 +1300

Hillsborough to Onehunga – I tackled Hendry Rd on Sunday then returned via Onehunga and Herd Rd. Both were very fitness-inducing if not repeat the feat-inducing.
Agreed – that's quite a stiff climb. But there's not a lot getting away from the fact that you are climbing 60-80m over a…

Katy

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:36:19 +1300

Grey Lynn Park is a wide open space and there are always people there. Would you not go there during the day?

Yes, though just for me personally Cox's Bay park is the only one on the list that is near where I need to go regularly, and I would…

jnorthover

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:34:00 +1300

I love the freedom and health benefits of getting around by bike but agree with others on some problem areas –
1. The steep hike up Newton Rd from the nw cycle path only to drop back to access the pink path. Good to see that will be addressed.
2.…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:18:15 +1300

I agree. We need on-street paths that go past shops, cafes and workplaces for things to really turn around.

The proposed network goes past every shopping centre in Western Bays, and dozens of cafes. It’s really very good. As I said above, it’s really just a matter of how and…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:17:09 +1300

and more than half my total ride is car-free. It makes such a positive difference.

Yeah, it's lovely.

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:16:16 +1300

I agree. We need on-street paths that go past shops, cafes and workplaces for things to really turn around. Ponsonby Rd is one of the most dangerous roads to cycle on and currently only the brave attempt it. It’s a shame that nothing is being done, despite the draft plan…

Gaz Tayler

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 09:24:41 +1300

oh for the love of Thor's hair underpants yes... please sort out getting from New Lynn and other western suburbs without the threat of death by car, truck, bus...

Moz

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 09:14:35 +1300

Even if it's longer it's usually much more fun to ride around a ridge than go down into a valley and then have to climb straight back out

You forgot "there must be a stop sign at the bottom of every hill, if necessary a four way stop sign.", which…

Andrew Merrifield

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:54:24 +1300

Spot on! cycle lanes for P and K Rds should be the starting point

Katy

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:10:13 +1300

I agree. We need on-street paths that go past shops, cafes and workplaces for things to really turn around. Ponsonby Rd is one of the most dangerous roads to cycle on and currently only the brave attempt it. It's a shame that nothing is being done, despite the draft plan…

Russell Brown

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:05:37 +1300

To get me back into cycling again AT and Council will have to do a heck of a lot more than what they have done so far, and what they have been proposing. Routes going through or past parks, and through various scenic or not so scenic routes through the…

Glenn Pearce

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 06:42:57 +1300

Possibly, but that area used to be a refuse tip/landfill, so that is more likely.

The other side of the road has been at least partially remediated by capping with clay about 12 years ago

linger

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 04:32:38 +1300

“Seaward” suggests sewage
with a probability not just high, but stinking.

Gareth Swain

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 02:56:39 +1300

The land is contaminated on the seaward side

With what?

Marc C

Wed, 09 Mar 2016 00:31:41 +1300

Andrew Johnson

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:15:11 +1300

I just been looking at the AT cycling maps, and for the life of me I cannot find a route from Manukau to the city that would be safe. Apparently you're allowed to cycle from the west, and soon from the east (well, as long as you not coming from…

Mark Battley

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:01:13 +1300

Nope won't load for me either. While it will be great to have a proper path, New Lynn to Waterview isn't actually too bad with the right route. There are on-road cycle lanes on Clark Street (just watch for turning cars..), shared walking/cycling path on left of Wolverton, left onto…

Joshua Arbury

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 21:33:04 +1300

I bought a bike for myself and my 11 year old daughter the weekend after the #PinkPath was opened. I figured that combined with the Nelson St cycleway I would essentially have a cycleway from my house to my work.

However I haven't really biked to work as much as…

Jolisa

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:43:20 +1300

There's definitely a plan for a connection from New Lynn to Waterview – along the railway line. Consultation imminent, I hear!

Russell Brown

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 19:19:51 +1300

Outside that area, but I do hope there’s a plan to make getting from New Lynn to the Waterview connection something other than terrifying for cyclists.

I second this. I’ve taken the cycle paths through Henderson to Te Atatu and along the motorway path, and then returned via Avondale, New…

Bart Janssen

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:02:45 +1300

Giving Ponsonby Rd and K-Rd cycle lanes would hands down be the biggest game changer for the inner suburbs, everything else would follow…

Great Nth road through to Grey Lynn shops has tonnes of room for a cycleway. Sure the car yards wouldn't be able to park their cars on…

Yamis

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:49:54 +1300

Outside that area, but I do hope there's a plan to make getting from New Lynn to the Waterview connection something other than terrifying for cyclists.

I second this. I've taken the cycle paths through Henderson to Te Atatu and along the motorway path, and then returned via Avondale, New…

Katy

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:32:15 +1300

Great that they are consulting so thoroughly. But my heart sinks every time I hear that Ponsonby Road won't even be touched for another three years minimum. It flies in the face of the advice Janette Sadik-Khan gives over and over again...

"Cities have to move quickly with infrastructure. Streets…

Mark Easterbrook

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:25:25 +1300

Outside that area, but I do hope there's a plan to make getting from New Lynn to the Waterview connection something other than terrifying for cyclists.

Dean Wallis

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:28:08 +1300

Sad that De Luen doesn't appear on the cycleway map – you'll have to drive to the end of the road...

On another note, my understanding is that there will be no parking on Meola Road. Hopefully I will be able to leave my aging station wagon somewhere nearby.

Glenn Pearce

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:26:55 +1300

“We are looking at different options there. It’s difficult because the land is contaminated on the seaward side. That reduces the options available to us for an off-road facility.

What does that mean exactly? Wouldn't this be the perfect opportunity to de-contaminate that area? Or too much $$?

Are they…

Bart Janssen

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:17:22 +1300

only for the whole climb to be thrown away on the descent on the other side

This.

Auckland is hilly, it's a fact of life. But cyclists love routes that reduce wasted effort. Even if it's longer it's usually much more fun to ride around a ridge than go down…

Russell Brown

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:16:06 +1300

Another good part of this plan is the proposal to upgrade the greenway through Cox's Bay Park that leads up to Wharf Road – offering a much quieter (and less onerous) way up to Jervois. It includes an upgrade to the little path into the park from the bottom of…

Public Address

Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:16:06 +1300

Discussion from blog post.