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						Steve the ISO codes long predated having domain names.  The UK was using .gb for other things as their official code, just not for domain names.
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Rachel sez:</p><blockquote><p>...but if you're publishing links to other websites in your own website, my understanding was that you can only link to the home page of other websites, as linking to specific pages/sections/items within the website does breach copyright unless you have obtained permission.</p></blockquote><p>I might have missed someone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:29:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>According to my passport it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.</p><p>So UK *and* GB are arguably reasonable abbreviations, although UK is probably more pedanticaly correct. </p><p>The "GB" plate has always been used on the back of British cars when driven overseas. GB is the ISO code…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:07:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						need... fresh... meat
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:54:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Should we sue the Wachowski brothers on his behalf?</p></blockquote><p>not unless you're willing to sue hjortsberg on behalf of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreaming_doubt" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">descartes</a>.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and ended up meeting himself, sometimes in multiples.... and ended up engaging in <ahem> some steamy self-love.</p></blockquote><p>Followed by Audrey Niffeneger, who MUST have read this book.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:04:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not too bad for a book written in 1974</p></blockquote><p>Should we sue the Wachowski brothers on his behalf?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:02:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p>I found <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gray-Matters-William-hjortsberg/dp/0671827251/ref=sr_1_6/102-4391429-4068916?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1177022963&amp;sr=1-6" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a copy on Amazon</a> with some suspisciously glowing reviews. I woudn't have called it the best SF book ever...<br />Basically the heads in jars were hooked up to computers which duplicated all the nerve input necessary to let them think they had bodies &amp; could get up to whatever they…</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Wearing them as necklaces?</p><blockquote><p>Now, that was <strong>definitely</strong> on <em>Futurama</em>!!</p>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						Wearing them as necklaces?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:35:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>From memory, the novel was called something like Grey Matters, and involved a lot of Futuramaesque heads in jars.</p></blockquote><p>Okay, see, now I'm curious. What are heads in jars doing with anal beads?</p>
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				<title>Leigh Kennaway</title>
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						Hmmm, thirty or so years ago, school holiday with my grandparents in Papatoetoe...  Grandma and I sharing our piles of library books as we so often did. I picked up a sci-fi novel from her pile, and got engrossed... particularly as it developed in to the sort of torrid lite-porn…
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						damn that dodgy preview button!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:31:13 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Ahh, nobody, what a wonderfully mendacious bit of evasiveness.</p><blockquote><p>You're calling me a liar &ndash; what have I lied about?</p><blockquote><p>Nor would you have to look to far to find people who think gay porn should be available to adults. If you weren't trying to ignore the point, it isn't…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						<p>DFP: </p><p>so why, seeing as the UK already had .uk given to them to use, and was using .uk, did the ISO standard have .gb? </p><p>Or is this another great example of standards being a graveyard for the efforts of people with nothing better to do (speaking as aomeone who…</p>
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				<title>DPF</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why is that?</p><p>For example, Queens' Uni, Belfast is in .uk, as it should be since the UK is "the United Kindom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland", so if .uk should be .gb and ireland is .ie then Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK, would have to…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Stuff n Things</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Would it really hurt to have otago.ac.nz point to a webpage?</p></blockquote><p><cough> Have you tried looking at publicaddress.co.nz or publicaddress.net.nz?  Surely I'm not the only one to screw this up :-)</p><blockquote><p>I suspect youtube has a policy of removing anything that anyone complains about automatically, so long as it looks like…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>what in the hell is an anal bead?</p></blockquote><p>Well, odds are against the book still being in the Tokoroa High School library after 20 years, so I can't send you to the original source. From memory, the novel was called something like Grey Matters, and involved a lot of Futuramaesque…</p>
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						<p>Ahh, nobody, what a wonderfully mendacious bit of evasiveness.  The Censor doesn't think 13 year olds should be able to watch <em>Passion</em>, and the appeal to which you refer was by the SPCS who do, in fact, think that 13 year olds should be able to watch it.</p><p>Nor would…</p>
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Incidentally .uk should be .gb</p></blockquote><p>Why is that?</p><p>For example, Queens' Uni, Belfast is in .uk, as it should be since the UK is "the United Kindom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland", so if .uk should be .gb and ireland is .ie then Northern Ireland, which is part of…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>hmm, i wonder if spreading this video could fit s307A of the Crimes Act &ndash; Threats of harm to people or property!</p><p>Oh noes!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>ME:  I think the line is easily drawn: would you want a 10 year old child to access this site?<br />ROGERD:  Well, apparently a fair few people think Mel Gibson's gorefest Passion of the Christ was suitable for 13 year olds, but a porn flick of guys sucking each other's…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Let's see if it has the same effect as this did to the MoD's servers in the UK.. :)</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4554083.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4554083.stm</a></p>
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						BTW, any idea why they aren't wanting the unedited ones pulled? Surely that's a greater infringement...?
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						I deal with lots of lawyers &ndash; my own firm has several... and AirNZ's are pretty typical. The best lawyers keep ther clients out of court... but not the richest ones. You should read Justice John Hansen in The Otago Law Review last month. Sounds like he's as sick of…
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						<p>.nz was delegated in January 1987 to John Houlker who was then at Waikato University.</p><p>.uk had started up two years earlier in July 1985.  .com a bit before that in Jan 1985.  Incidentally .uk should be .gb</p><p>As I understand it John, probably consulting with some colleagues, chose to…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I suspect youtube has a policy of removing anything that anyone complains about automatically, so long as it looks like it's official.</p><p>Pretty reasonable given their huge size and global reach, there is no way they could take the necessary time to research this properly.</p>
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						The link is on the blink. "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Air New Zealand Limited." You gotta love Air NZ's Teutonic sense of humour.
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I recall finding one or two distinctly R rated sci fi novels in my old school library.</p></blockquote><p>And who can forget the rush to get copies of the <em>Clan of the Cave Bear</em> series as they were plonked into the school library for the delectation of 13 year old boys…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the line is easily drawn: would you want a 10 year old child to access this site?</p></blockquote><p>Well, apparently a fair few people think Mel Gibson's gorefest <em>Passion of the Christ</em> was suitable for 13 year olds, but a porn flick of guys sucking each other's dicks shouldn't…</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p><em>what in the hell is an anal bead</em></p><p>a very special kind of YouTube embedded content</p>
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				<title>Hamish</title>
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						<p>To jump back to the whole, 'are you liable for an embedded clip containing infringing material':</p><p>I'm not a lawyer but the <em>practical</em> difference over whether you host the actual clip, or YouTube does, is none-at-all to the user. If you were paying YouTube to host the clip, surely you…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						That's so sweet of you, Che.  Clearly there are still some innocents left.
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>well... you know... i'm not going to search it, but i am going to ask.</p><p>what in the hell is an anal bead?</p><p>is it like being fixated on someone's buttocks, or more serious?</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not sure what the appropriate age is for my kids to become aware of the uses of anal beads, but as a kid it was certainly educational.</p></blockquote><p>Riiiiight.......</p><p>You know what, I really don't want my 8-years-old-but-reading-age-around-12plus-years daughter happening upon those books.</p><p>But I'm with Emma on this one.…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I really like the strictly allocated .au domains.</p><p>For example, looks how neatly organised this local council web address is:</p><p>www.richmondvalley.nsw.gov.au</p><p>And not to mention that .com.au domains are only available to registered Australian companies.</p><p>This order pleases me greatly, but I still like the free-for-allness of .coms and other…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p>.xxx_jason_gunn</p><p>and that.... will have no effect whatsoever.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>.x<br />.xx<br />.xxx<br />.xxx_but_ugly_chicks<br />.xxx_gay_blokes<br />.xxx_but_arguably_arty<br />.xxxx_frankly_puke_inducing</p></blockquote><p>That should drive up our mistaken Google search counts quite nicely.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						To use a phrase I've used a few times before here, cheers David. My children can walk right through the adults' library, browse it, and with parental permission, borrow books from it. Controlling my children's reading is MY responsibility. Same with controlling their internet access. I don't expect to control…
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seriously I don't quite understand how Germany (90 mln people) manages with a single level .de but we need multi level domains for 4 million?</p></blockquote><p>I really like the strictly allocated .au domains.</p><p>For example, looks how neatly organised this local council web address is:</p><p>www.richmondvalley.nsw.gov.au</p><p>And not to mention…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						I recall finding one or two distinctly R rated sci fi novels in my old school library. Or more specifically, some sci fi novels with some distinctly r-rated content that wasn't apparent to someone reading the dust jacket. As a parent I'm not sure what the appropriate age is for…
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seriously I don't quite understand how Germany (90 mln people) manages with a single level .de but we need multi level domains for 4 million?</p></blockquote><p>Argh!!!! I think that's a horrible horrible idea. Oftentimes, being able to search second level domains is <strong>hugely</strong> helpful. I frequently do google searches with…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>Actually at the local library I used while growing up there was a whole heap of erotic  stuff right next to the young adult section, specifically the sci fi part.</p><p>I'm not 100% sure the library knew the literature was in anyway erotic though. The erotic stuff was all of…</p>
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				<title>David Hamilton</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Your argument is rejected.</p></blockquote><p>If you talk about the library as being a metaphor for a site it still holds. The very fact that it has erotic fiction would turn it into a pron library, despite the fact that a kid could walk in, grab a tintin book and walk…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>You could have a number of different porn domains:<br /><em><br />.x<br />.xx<br />.xxx<br />.xxx_but_ugly_chicks<br />.xxx_gay_blokes<br />.xxx_but_arguably_arty<br />.xxxx_frankly_puke_inducing <br /></em></p><p>etc..</p><p>Seriously I don't quite understand how Germany (90 mln people) manages with a single level .de but we need multi level domains for 4 million?</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>ME: I wouldn't leave hard copies (paperback!) lying around for children to read so why should the internet be any different?</p><p>EMMA: But would you ask for them to all be removed from every library and put in a special porn-only library so kiddies couldn't touch them?</p></blockquote><p>Last time I…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But would you ask for them to all be removed from every library and put in a special pron-only library so kiddies couldn't touch them?</p></blockquote><p>A porn-only library. Can't see that getting through a city council budget meeting ;)</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Because, oddly, people who work in erotic lit don't want to be associated with hard-core pornography. They find it repulsive.</p><p>Also. The site I work on has ONE section devoted to Erotica. This section is security-protected and only accessible to paying users over eighteen. We have other sections devoted to…</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Would you move erotic lit sites to xxx domains? And if not, then why erotic pic</p></blockquote><p>Damn straight I'd move 'em! I think the line is easily drawn: would you want a 10 year old child to access this site?  I've no problem with Erotic Lit but I wouldn't leave…</p>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						<p>As far as the link thing is concerned, you could say thats the way the cookie crumbles, but that would be a nasty pun. </p><p>So just tell them to go jump...</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Pornographers argued they were a 'legal' enterprise with zillions of consumers (no argument there) but moving them to xxx. would not have stopped them trading surely? It certainly would have made it easier for parents/schools to block &mdash; not a bad thing surely?</p></blockquote><p>The problem being finding a borderline for…</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It seems they haven't grasped the difference between me hosting content and me linking to content...</p></blockquote><p>Of course they grasped the difference, they're not stupid. They just wanted to see how stupid you were ie can you be intimidated by their 'threat' of action. Yay you for not buckling immediately.…</p>
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				<title>Rachel</title>
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						That tickles: the power of the postie
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				<title>Chris Chambers</title>
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						<p>It is an interesting quirk the govt vs gov and ac vs edu isn't it? If the alternative nomenclature is not being used why for the sake of a moving a few extra 1s and 0s in the background don't both simply work?</p><p>I mean the computing power we had…</p>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						I would prefer .guv actually.
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				<title>Span .</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But almost every day I see big chunks of text being quoted by bloggers which probably exceed the width of the fair use defences.</p></blockquote><p>I've often wondered about this, thanks for that clarification Steven.  I don't mind so much if someone quotes my stuff, as long as they link to…</p>
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				<title>Rachel</title>
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						"Can only"... should have said thats if you're worried about copyright, or being audited, etc
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				<title>Rachel</title>
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						Its not directly relevant to this case, but if you're publishing links to other websites in your own website, my understanding was that you can only link to the home page of other websites, as linking to specific pages/sections/items within the website does breach copyright unless you have obtained permission.…
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=291860&amp;infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&amp;jd=a1994-143%2fs.42&amp;record={1526F}&amp;softpage=DOC" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Copyright Act 1994 &ndash; Part 3 &ndash; Acts permitted in relation to copyright works</a>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						GOVT. you're right. it's easier to say theatre
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Interestingly, in the UK, the government 2LD used to be .govt.uk, but a few years ago they changed it to .gov.uk.</p><p>I assume the reason for this is that it's bloody difficult to say "govt" aloud, something that probably wasn't considered back in the '80s.</p>
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				<title>Steven Price</title>
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						<p>Be warned: parody is not a clear-cut defence to infringement of copyright in NZ. It's certainly arguable in many circumstances, but it's not entirely clear what the courts will make of it.</p><p>I can't see a mere link being an infringement of copyright. But almost every day I see big…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						Also with regard to the "copyright infringement", the lawyer says herself it's a parody. While <a href="http://rangi.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gpacts/public/text/1994/an/143.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NZ copyright law</a> doesn't explicitly permit use of copyright works for the purposes of satire (as the US law does), I believe it's generally assumed to be part of the common law right of "fair…
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>...must.... rrrrresist anality..... loosing... battle...</p><p>we use ".govt", oztraylia uses ".gov"</p><p>and, i would addressed my email to air new zealand, "dear andrea, how about we spend your salary providing decent customer service..."</p>
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				<title>nic.wise</title>
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						<p>On the AirNZ thing &ndash; I wonder if she's sent this to Google, too, cos I have their GrabASeat RSS feed in google reader, and I'm SURE thats (C) AirNZ....</p><p><sigh>. Welcome to the 1990's</p><p>:)</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-on-receipt-of-a-not-so-nastygram/?p=13769#post13769</link>
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						well i'm no legal expert but i would've thought in these situations it'd be better PR for corporations in this situation to feign a sense of humour and let it be. Haggit can be commended at least for taking a non-aggressive tone.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:23:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Robinson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-on-receipt-of-a-not-so-nastygram/?p=13768#post13768</link>
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						<p>The key event in the NewZealandInternetHistory is in 1987; the adoption of the Janet Gray Book protocols.</p><p>More information on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JANET_NRS" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gray Book naming scheme</a> is available on Wikipedia.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:23:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-on-receipt-of-a-not-so-nastygram/?p=13759#post13759</link>
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						<p>There's a page here that may be of use: <a href="http://wlug.org.nz/NewZealandInternetHistory" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://wlug.org.nz/NewZealandInternetHistory</a></p><p>You could also try contacting John Hine at VUW, since he's apparently been around from the beginning.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:42:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-on-receipt-of-a-not-so-nastygram/?p=13758#post13758</link>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:42:14 +1200</pubDate>
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