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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I'm fairly sure that Hitler actually escaped from Germany, and via Argentina, moved to Springfield, where he murdered Marge Simpson and tried (with some success) to pin the blame on OJ. Also he's Barts dad.
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Did Hitler survive? Was OJ innocent?</p><p>1) No, and no. Or ...</p><p>2) See the Herald online, today. </p><p>I am not making this up. Whether they are is another question ...</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						that's what happened when they fired all the English grads &ndash; the readers and copy holders &ndash; back in the early 80s
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Good old Barry Soper, he always under-delivers, he ends <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11708317" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">his highly-principled piece on the Chiefs and NZRFU’s misogyny</a> with this advice:<br /><q> While they’re reflecting they should perhaps consult the dictionary and look up the word “sorry."</q></p><p>Advice he should take himself, as he earlier asserts:<br /><q>It’s the <strong>principal</strong> that’s at issue…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:33:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>I hope the ComCom grows a pair and rejects the merger. But even if it does, I suspect the damage is done and Old Media has crossed the Rubicon. I can no longer sit on the sidelines and watch our broadsheets go tabloid by stealth.</p><p>If your ad blocker allows…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:54:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>This last few months especially, their Twitter feed has become a joke.</p><p>It is interesting watching how they transform stories. The current one about the Russian river going red &ndash; they've carefully removed the geographic references in the tweet, despite other news sources seemingly having space to mention Russia,.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2016 02:18:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>This is a big shift from the original proposal, in which Fairfax took 51%.</q></p><p>That is an interesting shift. Wonder why. <br />People are worried for their jobs. I pick that one national Sunday paper will remain, with an Auckland edition. <br />I am concerned for the quality of news for Christchurch.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 23:55:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Living overseas and consuming news through the respective iPhone apps for Stuff &amp; NZHerald, I frequently wondered whether that was seriously the news for the day,. It's really hard to see new news if you're using the app.</q></p><p>Suggestion: use a feed reader like Feedly and subscribe to the relevant RSS…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 12:15:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>(I do know an artist who thinks that if it's OK to say "Let horse = x", you might just as well say "Let x = +").</q></p><p>Maybe your artist has been studying the lambda calculus and knows that arithmetic operations are just functions that themselves can be terms...</p><p>[update]…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 12:13:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 07:12:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>the Independent (digital only now sadly) sounds a lot like the Herald.</q></p><p>I followed the indy for a while on facebook a year or two ago &ndash; most of the major papers in the UK 'stream' headlines into your news feed.  I specifically stopped following the indy because every single…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 04:25:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I've also noticed this and have largely stopped reading the Herald or Stuff for this reason.  That being said, they don't really need to care what I think, as I'm overseas and I don't buy the paper copy, or buy the products they advertise.</p><p>The UK papers have a bit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 00:44:36 +1200</pubDate>
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						Living overseas and consuming news through the respective iPhone apps for Stuff & NZHerald, I frequently wondered whether that was seriously the news for the day,. It's really hard to see new news if you're using the app. Obviously the app toploads with the same popular articles as the homepage, but…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2016 00:42:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<p><q>"What happens next will move you to tears."</q></p><p>I wouldn't go that f.....Oh.  I see what you did there.</p><p>There's a lot of repackaged content going on as well.  I've read several times over the last few months about that poor chap who died of methanol poisoning after having a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 12:16:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						So on <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=11705198" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this story</a> the subbing computer/serf obviously screwed up and failed to remove location information from the lede.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:54:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nik Dirga</title>
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						This definitely reads like balance has tipped away from an equal parternship to Fairfax getting absorbed into NZME.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:50:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Is that because radio sells lots of advertising, or because it's really cheap to make &ndash; all you need is a couple of fuckwits in a studio and a grateful government that lets you off the license fees? (or smiles on you repurposing an iwi or other public benefit frequency).
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:34:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I should note that Fairfax staff have been concerned that what looked like a merger  is tilting towards an NZME takeover – and today’s announcement won’t do anything to ease those fears.</p><p>NZME’s big advantage is the profitable radio network.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:16:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I’m assuming they be closing one of the Star Times or the Herald On Sunday within weeks of the merger completing.</q></p><p>I suspect the Sunday News is the most vulnerable, with the HoS going even more tabloidy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:15:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Of course you can say <em>let x = +</em> assuming that you allow lambdas. (I refrained from the original clickbait so I have no idea of the context).
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 10:42:12 +1200</pubDate>
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						I'm assuming they be closing one of the Star Times or the Herald On Sunday within weeks of the merger completing.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 10:40:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>This just in: <a href="https://www.nzx.com/companies/NZM/announcements/288557" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">an NZME and Fairfax update</a>:</p><p><q>Subject to fulfillment of the conditions under the agreement (including approval from the New Zealand Commerce Commission) (“NZCC”), the merger will be effected by a wholly owned subsidiary of NZME acquiring all of the shares in Fairfax NZ, in consideration for which…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:24:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> <em>Stuff</em> or the <em>Herald</em> </q><br />Post-merger, will it be <em>Sterald</em> or <em>Huff</em> ?<br />or just <strong>Me-Fax</strong> ...</p>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						I rarely read either Stuff or the Herald now. They are either so fluffy it’s a waste of time or so brazenly biased (Auckland local bodies vs Bernard Orsman) as to not be worth the irritation engendered. I used to be of the view I refuse to pay for such…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:03:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Yep; basically, all the article demonstrates is that "most people" don’t read carefully enough. Possibly because they’re trying to skimread too much crap in a day (e.g. that article).
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				<title>st ephen</title>
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						<p>The best part is that having shown how to get the answer that "most people" get, they don't point out that you can only get that answer by swapping the multiplication sign in the final equation for a plus sign.  <br />(I do know an artist who thinks that if it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 16:16:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>The Herald has not let me down. Presenting <em><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&amp;objectid=11704491" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The maths question dividing the internet</a></em>. It's a <em>Daily Telegraph</em> article based on a shitpost. It is art.</p><p>(And of course I tried to work out the answer. But I couldn't, which left me feeling really bad.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2016 13:35:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q> the return of the cheese would help  </q><br />Cheesus? or is it Cheesus!<br />Oh well, there's new lows in human behaviour happening everyday.<br />And some people think its funny.</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Yes! I have a friend who writes for the Mail Online and I have learned so many fascinating tricks about how to create good, fun, sticky articles. The Mail knows how to make their trashy entertainment news coverage very enjoyable.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/pert-skimpy-assets-derriere-beach-fun-20160905113321" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I imagine this is more or less a perfect example.</a></p>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>To be fair, I think NZME has a commercial arrangement with ODT and the ‘byline’ was not actually that – just a reporter’s email for further info. The story was also attributed to the NZ herald.</q></p><p>Hmmm... I see that the ODT have since cleaned up that story, attributed it…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And no doubt make sure the reporting on the illegal wars and genocide in the Middle East is not being covered, not least the ethnic cleansing in Palestine.</q></p><p>No. It does not.</p><p>Any news organisation can cover what it sees fit. The nature of the Outbrain links is determined by…</p>
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				<title>Ian Pattison</title>
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						<p>Case in point regarding articles from overseas that are not actually relevant to what's going on here: NZ Herald online article about the bank fee payouts happening over in Australia.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11704205" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11704205</a></p><p>Apart from references to ASIC, there is nothing in this article to indicate that it is not relevant to…</p>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						<p><q>Not to mention that if I wanted to read Daily Mail online, I could go straight to the source easily enough.</q></p><p>I spend a good two to three minutes a day reading the Daily Mail, mainly to enjoy their latest pisstake about Corbyn. It is the best of its genre.…</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						Non-journalism non-media non-RNZ normally non-interested in public-reporting acquaintances have reported the same for a while.  It’s been my pleasure to point them to RNZ News.  Unprompted (but supported) by me older family (70-95) have been relying on Al Jazeera for international news for 5+ years.  Were it not for Swideswipe…
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				<title>James W</title>
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						I wonder if the increase in Daily Mail and news.com.au content is related to the Olympics? Remember NZME didn't send any reporters in protest, and subsequently  the majority of their Olympics coverage was from those two sources. I noticed how many there was around this time. Maybe they did exceptionally…
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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						To be fair, I think NZME has a commercial arrangement with ODT and the 'byline' was not actually that &ndash; just a reporter's email for further info. The story was also attributed to the NZ herald.
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Ask any big sophisticated international media buyer... </q></p><p>That was brilliant, and echoes the argument I was making almost 20 years ago to government agencies about their web stats. Nobody knew what they were looking at, so the bigger the raw numbers, the better. No-one (except most of the web geeks)…</p>
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				<title>kiwiwolf</title>
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						As a member of the Hibiscus Coast Facebook page I did comment at the time that the story was probably published  by the Herald as a distraction piece, one of many that appear in MSM that lead readers to believe that they are in the pocket of Government.
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				<title>Ben Cragg</title>
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						Can't these news outlets that simply repackage news at least dig a little deeper? Take for example a seemingly innocuous story of vehicle clamping that I came across on thespinoff.co.nz earlier today.  It had previously been covered by Story and stuff.co.nz in a manner that I probably wouldn't have even…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 18:38:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Earlier, from James Hawthorne: <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/05/the-anti-semitic-virus-thats-rampant-in-the-left-of-politics/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> (in whale oil comments)</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 18:08:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<q> Outbrain is actually an Israeli owned company. And oddly enough, a very large amount of the International media are controlled by Israeli businessmen – Howard Marks would be one good example – an Israeli/ American billionaire who controls Media Works via his Oaktree Investment Fund. The agenda is very clear,…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 18:03:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>It allegedly uses “behavioural targeting” to choose which stories it shows</q></p><p>It better bloody not be.</p>
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				<title>James Hawthorne</title>
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						Here is a clue – all of these newspaper sites are using “Outbrain” plugin for International paid advertising links. Those stories provided by Outbrain” are all very similar, moronic, meaningless, hyped up crap – form around the globe. All newspapers are now following that same model, dumbed down sensationalist BS.…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:46:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						I'm pretty sure that the mould is a miraculous representation of the newly canonised St. Theresa. Have a closer look at the screen shot.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:50:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Cragg</title>
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						I think this belongs here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2_wSsDwkQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2_wSsDwkQ</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:33:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Fairfax in Australia, at least, <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/greg-hywood-flags-weekendonly-print-editions-as-fairfax-embraces-247-digital-20160505-gonp18.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sees an end to 7 day a week printing</a>.</p><p>I'd suggest that a pre-requisite for a paywall isn't just content of quality, but content that enough people <strong>require</strong> for their work in order to finance its creation (and no usable free competitor). The FT and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:05:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>sandra</title>
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						And what happens when the Fairfax-NZME merger takes place? One giant paywall, I expect ... and yet, they've annoying people with rubbish. Not a smart business move.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 15:28:27 +1200</pubDate>
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						As does the Guardian. Must pay them ££ to do so, because it sure damages their brand.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 15:24:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q> In the same time-frame people are talking about for the Herald, I’ve noticed a change in Stuff’s “related stories” links, at the bottom of the page. They’re not related, they’re the worst kind of Women’s Weekly diets, junk science and body-shaming crap. I used to go there every morning for…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:58:27 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>I don't think that /r/nottheonion is the global news adjudicator, somehow.</p><p>I'd be quite sure that the Herald's legal department keeps them on the straight and narrow with copyright. All newspapers syndicate their content and have done for over a hundred years, in addition to newswires (Reuters, AP, etc) who…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:38:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>the NYT now gets more revenue from subscriptions than from advertising. While those subscriptions are still mostly print, this strikes me as yet more evidence that the paywalls are a-coming generally.</q></p><p>I'm not <em>too</em> surprised that the NYT is able to attract such a good subscription base, especially with its…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:33:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>he now subscribes to <em>Washington Post</em> online</q><br />try your local library for Press Reader or similar <br />&ndash; free access to a world of papers <br />( <em>Washington Post</em> included, at least in Chchch)<br /><a href="http://www.pressreader.com.ezproxy.christchurchcitylibraries.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.pressreader.com.ezproxy.christchurchcitylibraries.com/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:24:31 +1200</pubDate>
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						Media companies have to stop promoting access to eyeballs.  Who wants to buy eyeballs anymore?  There is too much fraud. I can buy 1000's of eyeballs from some Russian robot for $100. Media is loosing, I  don't think anyone really knows who is consuming the content. Relative to Facebook and…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:17:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Josie McNaught</title>
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						Doesn't this rejection by Not the onion mean that nzherald.co.nz is breaching some of the basic codes by which journalism stands or falls? Stealing content is just a simple way of saying plagiarism &ndash; isn't it??? (But easier to spell and the digital 'kids'  don't have to google it to…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:17:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Paywalls for quality, sure.</q></p><p>Yup.</p><p>But the key point is the news service has to demonstrate quality first. You can't spew drivel onto your webpage and then promise "oh if you pay you'll get real news".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:09:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JessicaRose</title>
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						<p>Has no one read Alain de Botton?  <a href="http://alaindebotton.com/news-users-manual/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://alaindebotton.com/news-users-manual/</a></p><p>It's pretty well covered off in <em>The News</em> how bad reporting, as seen in The Herald, is for society.  And also why reporting is performed in this way.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Danyl over at the DimPost is looking for an aggregator,</q></p><p>As I commented there, he's actually looking for a curator, rather than an aggregator. Very different things.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:47:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>For sure, quality is a precondition for successful paywall.</p><p>Anecdata: my Dad, 78, told me a few weeks ago he now subscribes to Washington Post online. He was tired of the thin world news coverage in the Herald, and is very interested in the US elections, so he figured he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:38:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nik Dirga</title>
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						Paywalls for quality, sure. I subscribe to the NYT and might eventually sign up for some of the other quality news organisations, but I'm not paying for viral clickbait I can find for free on FB and Twitter and reddit.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:34:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Incidentally I read on the weekend that for the first time in many years, perhaps ever, the NYT now gets more revenue from subscriptions than from advertising. While those subscriptions are still mostly print, this strikes me as yet more evidence that the paywalls are a-coming generally.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:15:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Am thinking back to the early days of newspapers getting online. People warned then of the dangers of giving the news away for free, but the lure of modernity was too strong. Interesting to ponder what would have happened if those people had won or at least held the line…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:14:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I wonder whether a false value is being placed on those clicks, and whether as advertisers become more sophisticated, click revenue will tail off?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:07:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>So they’re desperately trying to juice up those metrics to improve the NZME side of the deal.</q></p><p>Death by KPI.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Speaking of the Daily (Hate) Mail, at least it's been a tabloid rag from the start. What's been happening at NZME is a more insidious case of a broadsheet devolving into a tabloid, and in danger of taking the Overton window with it.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:14:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Great article Russell. It reminds me of the final essay in Don’t Dream it’s Over: Reimagining Journalism in Aotearoa NZ in which Simon Wilson suggests a more productive local focus for the Herald that would both serve Auckland better and build a more loyal following.</q></p><p>And it must be said,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:37:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>I’d like to point out one despicable example from Sunday’s ODT. The Herald ran this story written by my friend Phil Vine.</q></p><p>Pretty sure that's operator error. I believe ODT syndicates stories from the Herald (note the credit at the bottom of the ODT story).</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:24:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>EliotBlennerhassett</title>
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						<p>I'm coming to the conclusion that <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/</a> is put together by a robot without human oversight.</p><p>Right now, top item with photo is "Rebuild finds its mojo in 2016"<br />Scroll down to the Rebuild section, top item is "Rebuild finds mojo in 2016" hmm. Next section is Opinion, top item…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:15:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I'd like an aggregator.</p><p>The optimal tool for reading stuff on the Internet was in many ways the first one I used back in &ndash; 1993 &ndash; <a href="http://www.mit.edu/people/jik/software/xrn/ng_mode.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">xrn</a>.</p><p>The killer feature was its killfile => with a bit of regexp-fu, you could consign people, topics and entire ideologies to a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:11:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Radio NZ website: still news.</q></p><p>FTW</p>
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				<title>Barnaby Bennett</title>
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						Great article Russell. It reminds me of the final essay in Don't Dream it's Over: Reimagining Journalism in Aotearoa NZ in which Simon Wilson suggests a more productive local focus for the Herald that would both serve Auckland better and build a more loyal following.  Is this plunge into rapid…
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						Radio NZ website: still news.
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						<p><q>Danyl over at the DimPost is looking for an aggregator, having read this article. That is what Twitter does for me. Points me towards journalism I want to actually read.</q></p><p>Yeah, this is what I was thinking while I was reading that. If I want to know what Matt Nippert…</p>
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						<p><q> I can’t put my finger on when exactly, but within the last 2-4 months perhaps?</q></p><p>Me too, I think it was last week when the thought first popped into my head that reading the Herald homepage was as frustrating as Stuff. But I only formed the thought after my subconscious…</p>
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						<p><q>The ODT has also overhauled its site and so far they haven’t put up the paywall that they had promised for April.</q></p><p>The ODT site is much cleaner since the overhaul and still provides some decent regional journalism. Long may their proposed paywall remain sealed in its box under a…</p>
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						I use a variety of things as aggregator &ndash; twitter and Facebook are fast becoming the less used as I follow and friend things I relate to and like, thus end up in a feedback loop of the sorts of things you'd expect... which means I miss out on balance...…
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> not enough local stories are produced</q></p><p>You're right, we just aren't doing enough weird shit. It's our responsibility to provide strange bizarre behaviour for The Herald to report back to us. There are only four and half million of us so it will require some effort but we're kiwis, we…</p>
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						<p>Danyl over at the DimPost is looking for an aggregator, having read this article. That is what Twitter does for me. Points me towards journalism I want to actually read.<br /><a href="https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/the-need-for-an-aggregator/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/the-need-for-an-aggregator/</a></p>
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						<p><q>shared on Facebook three days ago</q></p><p>Yeah this is the thing that bugs me too. When I look at Stuff or The Herald I frequently get the weird deja vu feeling of didn't I see this in my twitter feed a weeks ago ... oh yes I did. </p><p>So not…</p>
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						<p>cue serious debate on what "news" actually is</p><p>I would imagine the Herald considers all their posts news or opinion</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>By "news generated", do you mean "newsworthy things happening", or "newsworthy things written up into stories"?</q></p><p>I meant that for whatever reason, not enough local stories are produced. Both the options you suggest are reasons, I think. We're a small country, so important dramas are sporadic; meanwhile there aren't enough…</p>
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						Technically, there is no reason why the herald can't have two different interfaces for people who want serious news, and people who don't. (A proper "news" tab). Of course there is all the news feeds which go up automatically but it would be fairly easy to filter those... by source…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I’d actually even be happy to read the story about the cheese, because at least it’s a local non-news story, rather than a non-news story from Canada or Australia or some random town in the US.</q></p><p>You make a sound point.</p>
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						<q>If you mean the latter, then yes, definitely. If you mean the former, I suspect that it’s more that our too few paid journalists are expected to produce too many items per day to have time to look for things that are actually newsworthy, or investigate them properly when they…</q>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p><q>there just isn't enough news generated locally to meet the need</q></p><p>By "news generated", do you mean "newsworthy things happening", or "newsworthy things written up into stories"?<br />If you mean the latter, then yes, definitely. If you mean the former, I suspect that it's more that our too few paid…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Life in the fridge exists...</strong><br /><em>The Herald's</em> new <strong>daily dairy diary</strong> is a timely innovation, keeping us whey ahead of curds and other acts of Fonterrorism...<br />Perhaps they could add their best readers' 'cheese puff' recipe?<br />More mousetrap than click bait?</p>
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						I'd actually even be happy to read the story about the cheese, because at least it's a local non-news story, rather than a non-news story from Canada or Australia or some random town in the US.
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						I've been overseas for nearly ten years and there has definitely been a recent change to the Herald online. I can't put my finger on when exactly, but within the last 2-4 months perhaps? I went from being able to see what the main NZ news stories were by going…
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						And then there's the misleading (or just stupid) generic photograph. Story about bad weather in Auckland ("it's been windy!") illustrated by file photo of hurricane in Florida, that kind of thing. "Women's pay lags behind", says ... er, a sexy model in a suit?
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						<p><q>My absolute favourite type of empty Herald web story is “The internet is scratching its head over this latest optical illusion”, describing a meme that your auntie shared on Facebook three days ago.</q></p><p>And on Reddit as much as a month before.</p><p>In fact I did a <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/reddit/search/results.cfm?kw1=reddit" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">search</a> and the…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>The things is that the Daily Mail is a lot better at these sort of stories than the Herald or Stuff. They usually have lots of great pictures attached to the stories and nice summaries that don't get picked up by the NZ sites:</q></p><p>Yes! I have a friend who…</p>
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						<p>I think RNZ should be applauded for its website overhaul. It’s very clean looking and no-nonsense. The ODT has also overhauled its site and so far they haven’t put up the paywall that they had promised for April.</p><p>Of course I still go to Stuff and the Herald as well,…</p>
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						<p><q>The things is that the Daily Mail is a lot better at these sort of stories than the Herald or Stuff. </q></p><p>Very much so.</p><p>The strange thing is, I know there's real thought going into what they need to do with the printed paper, both in an editorial and management…</p>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						Having just moved back to NZ after 8 years living overseas, none of this helps with the culture shock of moving back home. I'm trying not to let the feeling that NZ hasn't progressed in the intervening that I left but it really feels like it. I'm an admittedly harsh…
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						I have already abandoned the Herald. A digital subscription to the NYT, a daily look at the BBC and the Guardian... and I used to look at the Herald for local content, but everything outlined in this article is correct, and I'm over it. The RNZ website actually contains some…
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						I'm not deeply familiar with the Herald but Stuff certainly does this gratuitously, and has for a considerable time,  especially through the middle of the day.  Geographically anonymous stories irritate me to no end,  but I've noticed there's often no shortage of people willing to comment on them.,  and I…
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				<title>Simon Lyall</title>
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						<p>The things is that the Daily Mail is a lot better at these sort of stories than the Herald or Stuff. They usually have lots of great pictures attached to the stories and nice summaries that don't get picked up by the NZ sites:</p><p>eg compare this <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=11703661" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Herald</a> story to the…</p>
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				<title>Nik Dirga</title>
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						<p>Here's a fun trick of late &ndash; go to news.com.au and count how many stories are repeated directly, headlines, standfirsts intact, on the NZ Herald website. There've been many days where the websites appear to be clones of each other. </p><p>And it's not as if News or the Daily Mail…</p>
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						The rerun Daily Mail stories make me angry. The Daily Mail have been documented again and again to be conscience-free liars, and yet because their web site is very successful, they are admired by other online news sites. The fact that the Herald see nothing wrong with the Daily Mail…
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				<title>Michael Meyers</title>
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						<p>I've definitely notice this getting worse in the past couple of months. </p><p>The nuber of times recently when I'll open a "geographically anonymous" story with an interesting headline, only to close it moments later because it's either from somewhere I don't care about, like Hicksville,  Arkansas, or it's from the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						It has been pointed out to me that nzherald.co.nz is banned from <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">/r/nottheonion</a>.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>it seemed impossible to get the "kids" in digital to act on social media tips that were genuinely newsworthy. They're not even stealing the good stuff.</q></p><p>When you know enough of the context it is really obvious when media selectors do not. Often. Firing experienced folk costs. Let's monetize that.</p>
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				<title>Thomas Lumley</title>
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						<p>I think I've noticed a change, too &mdash; though I have to confess it could easily just have been recall bias.</p><p>I read a lot of medical/health/nutrition science stories for StatsChat purposes. There have always been stories that are overstated or just wrong, especially via the UK press. What I…</p>
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						<p>Is "hoverbait" a thing yet? Because that's what it's become for me. </p><p>After frequent disappointment, eventually you learn that a headline like "Woman eats fish who ate her husband" (invented, but all too indicative) is not likely to originate in Whakatane. So before clicking you hover over the headline, and…</p>
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						Another thought (which doesn't just apply to the Herald site). When you live and die by analytics, the resulting feedback loops can be bad. In seeking to maximise the highest number of reads by the most coveted demographic, you eliminate the possibility of serendipitous successes. Things are positioned prominently because…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-obscuring-the-news/?p=365924#post365924</link>
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						One theory I've seen aired is that this is a defensive measure on the part of NZME in ancipation of the merger: they've decided they can't afford to look less clickworthy than Stuff when the axe is wielded, and damn the broader consequences.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 18:35:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-obscuring-the-news/?p=365923#post365923</link>
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						Tim has really put his finger on something with the stories that turn out to be news of the weird from elsewhere once you click through. Stories that would be mildly interesting if they were from here, but lose all relevance when they're not. My theory is that the front…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 18:26:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-obscuring-the-news/?p=365922#post365922</link>
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						<p><q>"the cheese, as his photographs clearly showed, had a best-before date of November 2016."</q></p><p>Should've been OK then... :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 18:11:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 18:11:38 +1200</pubDate>
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