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				<title>artig</title>
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						I note with great sadness the recent passing of Bernadette Mooney, one of the pioneers of BBSs carrying Usenet news. Her BBS, Pinnacle, was connected via Nacjack to KCBBS. She was a frequent contributor to various newsgroups, and her signature "BCNU B" was well-known to many.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:00:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p><q>Same here, but I think for different reasons. I never really had a record player, and used to buy cassettes which (inevitably) got eaten by one player or another.</p><p>CDs were a massive step up, because I’d copy them to tape, secure in the knowledge that when the tape eventually…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sept 2013 12:41:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>(although sadly I still buy CDs).</q><br />Same here, but I think for different reasons. I never really had a record player, and used to buy cassettes which (inevitably) got eaten by one player or another. </p><p>CDs were a massive step up, because I'd copy them to tape, secure in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sept 2013 09:01:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						Glad I found the time to read this. Fascinating piece. Cheers.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sept 2013 07:52:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Lipscombe</title>
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						Enjoyed your piece Russell. Made me think fondly of old Deep Throat BBS days.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Sept 2013 07:13:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						A fascinating article, Russell, and much to meditate on. Your comments on the music industry certainly made me rethink some of my knee-jerk stances, although I wonder whether it could've been so much different if the majors were so slow on the uptake and let Apple (via iTunes) steal such…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 21:50:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>&quot;chris&quot;</title>
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						<p><q> Times are a changing</q></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJUJAeG1sCQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJUJAeG1sCQ</a></p><p>Insightful speech Russell, a nicely balanced appraisal.  I’m also looking forward to watching that doco when it’s posted..I  had a wee chuckle at “Enjoy the murder”.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 18:23:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>“2,258 items”.</q></p><p>Busy lad???</p><p>But look at his posting numbers here: 16783 !!!!   Times are a changing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 17:28:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<q>For many of the smaller ISPs then (and even now, from what I’ve heard), though, it was more “accidental” that the salespeople were misleading customers about “just signing up for information” on a form that was actually a service contract allowing both internet and telephone service to be transferred away…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 16:51:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Yay!</q></p><p>"2,258 items".</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 13:16:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kirk Alexander</title>
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						Oh well, never mind. I'm not sure what Rowan did but I've got a script that can extract just the article and comments from a Computerworld HTML page if that helps.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 13:15:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rowan Crawford</title>
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						<p><q>Will give this a try Russell, start saving your pennies...</q><br />Doh! I asked on the twitters but I didn't see this here at the time.</p><p><q>Rowan Crawford has done it and stories are flowing into my Dropbox as we speak. Hurrah!</q><br />Yay!</p><p>Sorry about the "fish can't see water" problem…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 12:57:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Telecom accidentally signed up my dad to Xtra, even though he told them he was quite happy with Ihug.</q></p><p>With Telecom, accidentally is probably accurate, though possibly also not. For many of the smaller ISPs then (and even now, from what I've heard), though, it was more "accidental" that the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 12:50:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Will give this a try Russell, start saving your pennies…</q></p><p>Cool!</p><p><strong>Update:</strong> Rowan Crawford has done it and stories are flowing into my Dropbox as we speak. Hurrah!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 11:59:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>From memory, Dad emailed details of this to Nick Wood, who thought it was hilarious and gleefully contacted Russell with news of this stuff-up by Ihug’s rival.</q></p><p>In the 76 pages of links to stories under my byline, there are many I'd forgotten about altogether. Thanks for the reminder!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 11:59:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kirk Alexander</title>
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						<p><q>Also: If anyone would like to write me a script to scrape all my stories from the Computerworld website, just in case, I will surely buy you a drink.</q></p><p>Will give this a try Russell, start saving your pennies...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 11:45:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>The Computerworld years weren't all junkets and scoops. Here's <a href="http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/515373/involuntary_xtra_sign-up_just_glitch_says_telecom/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">an awesome story from 1999</a> about the time Telecom accidentally signed up my dad to Xtra, even though he told them he was quite happy with Ihug.</p><p>From memory, Dad emailed details of this to Nick Wood, who thought it was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 11:11:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q>This is driving change. NZ On Air still chips in $5000 for the cost of making a video &mdash; the same amount since the 1990s</q></p><p>Since the Making Tracks scheme was introduced in 2011, music video funding has increased to $6000, with an additional compulsory $2000  contribution from the artist.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 11:02:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I see another Brown is taking to the broadcast media on Sunday</q></p><p>Indeed! Can you hold fire on commenting on it while I write a separate post about it? coming soon.</p>
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						<p>Hi,</p><p>I can vouch for Jimmy Rae Brown's employability. He is very obliging and capable and we will keep employing him to do tasks for us from time to time.</p><p>Great speech Russell. Sorry I missed it. Have had man-flu for more than a week!</p><p>al</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 10:57:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>I see another Brown is taking to the broadcast media on Sunday</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlAjCSIMbtY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlAjCSIMbtY</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 10:37:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>However, I was more of a soc.culture.new-zealand type…</q></p><p>Hippy.</p>
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				<title>Richard Ram</title>
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						Nice. However, I was more of a soc.culture.new-zealand type...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sept 2013 10:22:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Thanks, Russell.  The topic for next week's lecture in my first yrear course is "The future of print", so I may well quote you.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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