Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: NZ On Air and the bill that does bugger-all https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380042#post380042 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380042#post380042 Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:27:46 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380040#post380040 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380040#post380040 My media show’s production company, Top Shelf, has a Nielsen subscription and I assume the majority of others do too.

Unless Lee's company was skimping, I guess. Never the brightest.

]]> Mon, 27 Aug 2018 14:13:47 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380039#post380039 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380039#post380039 Mediawatch interviewed Melissa Lee about her bill and it was utterly perplexing.

Most notably, this part:

"As a TV producer I used to struggle to find out how many people were watching on a Sunday morning. The public have the right to know and it would help the producers as…

]]> Mon, 27 Aug 2018 14:00:35 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380012#post380012 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380012#post380012 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:03:53 +1200 Tom Semmens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380010#post380010 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380010#post380010 I am astonished anyone takes Mike Hosking seriously enough to make a post about anything he says.

Mad Mike's Minute is aimed at a radio audience whose average age would be well north of 60 (much the same demographic range as the ill informed idiots who watch Fox News, whose…

]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:26:46 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380008#post380008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380008#post380008 In commercial TV terms, this is certainly true. If you're not buying whiteware, they're not interested in you.

But even with commercial TV rating don't mean as much as people think. Very recent case in point — The Big Bang Theory being cancelled while even re-runs are still absurdly popular.…

]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:31:18 +1200 tussock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380007#post380007 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=380007#post380007 The TPU is the official propaganda and net troll arm of the National Party of NZ.

As in, set up by the people who do propaganda and net trolling for the National Party, run by relatives of National Party MPs, funded by the same people who fund the National Party,…

]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:09:36 +1200 nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379999#post379999 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379999#post379999 It's almost enough to make you doubt the good faith of the Taxpayers' Union.

Comedy gold right there. You should try for that slot.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:44:01 +1200 nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379998#post379998 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379998#post379998 Who the fecking hell are the Taxpayers Union?

David Farrar, Jordan Williams and the usual suspects of dirty politics. They exist to raise phantom causes that National MPs can then cite and say "Look! There is Real Concern(tm) out there!"

Quite why the media gives them the time of day…

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:29:34 +1200 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379994#post379994 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379994#post379994 warning: Link contains Mike

I did not heed the warning. That is depressing reading. He cast's himself as some kind of eternal optimist in a world of snobs and elitist lefties. And does it all in a sneering tone the irony of which, would be totally lost on him it…

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:02:47 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379992#post379992 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379992#post379992 But I do occasionally buy whiteware and am looking forward to having a regular income in the form of the National Superannuation Universal Basic Income (after years of irregularity of income), so will likely become more of a consumer.

I do miss TVNZ7 – there were so many good programmes…

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:32:32 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379991#post379991 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379991#post379991 But then I’m from a demographic that no one cares about so it doesn’t matter what I watch or when.

In commercial TV terms, this is certainly true. If you're not buying whiteware, they're not interested in you.

That was real shame of the closure of TVNZ 7 – it…

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:50:13 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379990#post379990 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379990#post379990 We don’t know all of it for sure, because NZ on Air only publish the numbers for their 10 most popular shows.
I'm sure NZME – Mike's bosses or their ad agency – would have access to this Nielsen info so they can place tv ads – and I have…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:58:40 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379989#post379989 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379989#post379989 Worth noting that NZ on Air helps with funds for Attitude TV - 11am on Sundays on TV1 and on Demand
plus they have a website with many more stories and information.

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:47:14 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379985#post379985 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379985#post379985 They once publicly objected to Mojo travelling to Masterton to talk on community radio. So the Bill needs to have safeguards against such attacks.

That was one of their earliest outings, from which they rapidly retreated with their trousers on fire.

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:33:16 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379983#post379983 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379983#post379983 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 17:30:16 +1200 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379982#post379982 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379982#post379982 it's a bunch of people who hate unions, hate taxes,

And likely taxpayers too, since their main modus operandi seems to be putting their words in our mouths

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 17:22:20 +1200 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379981#post379981 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379981#post379981 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 17:16:04 +1200 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379980#post379980 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379980#post379980 are the Taxpayers Union

it's a bunch of people who hate unions, hate taxes, and believe that government should be primarily accountable to right wing trolls. Oh, and they have no sense of humour which makes their name all the funnier. These days they're been rendered irrelevant by Trump, who…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:58:58 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379974#post379974 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379974#post379974 Oh, this is timely

Yes, damned good. Some of it's a mystery to me, since I don't rely on Facebook for anything at all. My social media is Twitter, and there ain't no algorithm deciding what news I read, apart from perhaps the way they fuxored the chronology of the…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 14:53:44 +1200 peter payne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379971#post379971 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379971#post379971 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 12:34:47 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379970#post379970 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379970#post379970 Oh, this is timely: Duncan Greive has written a long and nerdy column on changing online metrics – basically, trusting Facebook was a mistake everyone made – and at the end offered some commentary on the fortunes of The Spinoff TV:

There’s another set of numbers which it would be…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:32:59 +1200 simon g https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379969#post379969 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379969#post379969 Long before she became an obscure National MP, Melissa Lee was the presenter and producer of Asia Dynamic, and later Asia Down Under.

In the 1990’s Asians were invisible on NZ television. Raybon Kan used to do a comedy routine complaining that he had to be a doctor because his…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:30:14 +1200 LanceWiggs https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379968#post379968 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379968#post379968 Ahh – the "why are we funding Jono and Ben?" line.
My normal response (and I am absolutely not a J&B fan) is to say should we have funded Billy T James? or (Nice one) Stu? The people throwing rocks will almost always remember these entertainers.

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:11:54 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379967#post379967 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379967#post379967 We've said it before, but the TPU has consistently refused to disclose its donors, while insisting on accountability for everyone else. Not unlike the Institute of Economic Affairs and the Adam Smith Institute on Planet Brexit.

https://www.transparify.org/blog/2017/2/28/thinktanks-evidence-policy

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:04:49 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379966#post379966 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379966#post379966 My biggest issue, especially in light of recent viewer behavior studies, with NZ On Air is that they’re limited to free to air broadcasting only. If the goal is to help get NZ stories in front of NZ viewers, they’re going to need to figure out how to champion our… ]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:03:38 +1200 steve black https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379965#post379965 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379965#post379965 Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:53:03 +1200 Deep Blue https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379964#post379964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379964#post379964 Mike Hosking offering his opinion on something thats pretty much insignificant, now that’s something you don’t see everyday.
I’ll crawl back under my rock...

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:49:40 +1200 Dylan Reeve https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379963#post379963 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379963#post379963 It's fairly disingenuous (but entirely unsurprising) for Hosking to say of The Spinoff TV "they had never made TV before" – most of the people actually making the TV show had plenty of experience.

It's a type and style of show that NZ has never really mastered, but we keep…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:49:37 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379962#post379962 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-nz-on-air-and-the-bill-that-does/?p=379962#post379962 Discussion from blog post.

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