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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Be interesting to see how that vote would have turned out had it been run under STV. Someone run out and interview a dozen Sweeny supporters and see if they would have ranked Hubbard or Banks higher.</p></blockquote><p>In this morning's post I've advanced the view that under STV Banks wouldn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:05:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>ah yes, the curse of democracy: does one vote for the candidate one wants, or does one vote strategicly ...?</p></blockquote><p>Be interesting to see how that vote would have turned out had it been run under STV. Someone run out and interview a dozen Sweeny supporters and see if they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:58:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						ah yes, the curse of democracy: does one vote for the candidate one wants, or does one vote strategicly ...?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:21:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Well this turned out well. I can imagine a lot of people wishing they hadn't voted for Swney or Hinchcliff right about now...
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:35:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jb</title>
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						<p>This comes down to a key senior management task.</p><p>You can't read everything, but you have people for that.<br />It's your job (my job) to train those people to analyse and distribute accordingly. They need to know I need to see for my decision and what I need to see…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:07:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>I think it was the SIS report on Zaoui.</blockquote>BINGO!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:02:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						paging Dr Che, Dr Che there's a call for you on line 1.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:56:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						The whole concept of race starts to fall in on itself once you start digging.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:43:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If an Inuit converts to Judaism are they then racially Jewish and not Inuit?</p></blockquote><p>No, they'd be an Inuit who believes in Judaism.</p><blockquote><p>Can Roman Catholics be both a race and an ideology?</p></blockquote><p>No, because Catholic belief (although it started amongst Europeans) is spread around many different ethnic groups. There…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:59:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh, and an apology to C&R's Aaron Bhatnagar for a comment further up the thread. It wasn't the Hero Parade he criticised as a waste of money, but the council function to mark the anniversary of homosexual law reform. I don't think he's said anything about Hero itself.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:01:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>I've googled without success but wasn't there also another incident a few weeks back when Peters had failed to read a paper or press release issued to him? I recall him smirking on One News (walking into the House) when he was caught out having earlier in the day complained…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:59:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's a different kettle of fish but the 9/11 attack could have gone differently if people who should have been reading reports issued to them actually did.</p></blockquote><p>I think it's relevant. If you're going to make an issue of the unheeded reports before 9/11, then you can't give Peters' office…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:52:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>Good point JB. </p><p>I've googled without success but wasn't there also another incident a few weeks back when Peters had failed to read a paper or press release issued to him? I recall him smirking on One News (walking into the House) when he was caught out having earlier in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:43:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jb</title>
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						<p>Sean Plunkett did OK up to a point, but he didn't ask the question that was screaming out to be asked:</p><p>"What &ndash; as Minister &ndash; have you done to ensure that security assessments are read, analysed, prioritised and communicated within your organisation in a timely manner?"</p><p>It's fine to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:19:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<tangent><blockquote>Jewishness is both a race and a...</blockquote>That's the bit that's always confused me. If an Innuit converts to Judaism are they then racially Jewish and not Innuit? What race do African Jews belong to? Can Roman Catholics be both a race and an ideology?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:46:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The Brethren are an ideology, like Communists or Libertarians. </p><p>Jewishness is both a race and a (religious) ideology &ndash; you can be one and not the other. Moreover, you can choose the ideology bit but not the race bit.</p><p>People have every right to their ideologies, however crazy. Others have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:15:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) &mdash;  Doug Howlett, New Zealand's record try-scorer in international rugby, was arrested yesterday on suspicion of criminal damage after an incident at the team hotel in London</p></blockquote><p>Not all of the All Blacks were taking the defeat lying down &ndash; [[http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4232896a10.html | Doug Howlett allegedly decided to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:21:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>Here is another story I heard: The four year old daughter of a female of my acquaintance got up and left the room after the All Black's lost. When her Mum went to see where she was, she was in her room with all her All Black figurines lined up,…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:14:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>Sometimes, you know, it's just nice to dance in the streets without having to worry about economic or social return.</blockquote>If you want to dance in the streets by all means do so. But do you really need a council grant to do it? Get your neighbours together, close off the…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:36:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would have the same opinion about most of these "cultural events"</p></blockquote><p>Scare quotes around cultural events. Uh-oh. This doesn't look promising.</p><blockquote><p>i fail to see why local or central government has to pay for people's hobbies unless it has an economic return for the country as a whole. The…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>My very last comment on the refereeing (I promise):</p><p>In the age of professionalism, it is beyond me why the same touchies and the referee are not kept together as a unit for all games. Combinations, as Grahame Henry found out, are important in the big games.</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>They had obviously been expecting a chilly or non existent reception, and the look on their faces was great.</blockquote>And where the f%#k did this idea come from? I heard the same BS on Radio Live news. As if there was some expectation that disapointed fans were going to go to…
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>that Auckland hadn't had pretty</p></blockquote><p>heh.... that auckland <em>had</em> pretty...</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I find the line about "putting confusion in referees' minds" quite bizarre. The mark of a confident referee is that he will listen to a touch judge and if he disagrees, simply say so and carry on.</p></blockquote><p>I've watched matches a couple of times in rugby where the touch judge…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Auckland City sold its rental housing stock to the government.</p></blockquote><p>Who, if memory serves, did not want to buy them but were over a barrel. I heard at the time, but do not know how true, that Auckland hadn't had pretty much been gifted those properties by the government years…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote>Here is another story I heard: The four year old daughter of a female of my acquaintance got up and left the room after the All Black's lost. When her Mum went to see where she was, she was in her room with all her All Black figurines lined up,…</blockquote>
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				<title>KevinHicks</title>
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						<p>BTW I know of no-one in C&amp;R who had knowledge of this poster campaign. My guess is that is was fueled genuine anger over the way Dominion road small businesses have been treated over sginage &ndash; get out and talk to them they are spitting tacks!</p><p>City vision wants is to…</p>
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				<title>KevinHicks</title>
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						Russel, I am not going to fib &ndash; we have had 15 years of continuous rates rises from both C&R and City Vision. Both because of rabid house value rises and increases in the "rate". Our rates have gone up 400% in that time since the split them into 3. My…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Russell, you may be interested to know that Mr Hicks is in fact a C&amp;R candidate. I note he hasn't declared it in his comments.</p></blockquote><p>And I feel bound to note that his posts bear out everything I've been saying about this year's C&amp;R.</p>
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				<title>Geoff Willmott</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I find the line about "putting confusion in referees' minds" quite bizarre. The mark of a confident referee is that he will listen to a touch judge and if he disagrees, simply say so and carry on.</p></blockquote><p>No this is one of the saner things Paddy has said over the…</p>
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				<title>Lindsey</title>
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						<p>Just to get the facts right here, the Queen St upgrade is largely paid for by the special rate paid by CBD businesses. They have the equivalent of a Mainstreet scheme where they pay a special rate for upgrading work in the Heart of the City area.<br />This is their…</p>
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				<title>Margaret B</title>
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						<p>Russell, you may be interested to know that Mr Hicks is in fact a C&amp;R candidate.  I note he hasn't declared it in his comments.</p><p>The thing that bugs me about the billboard campaign is the secrecy.  I have no problem with political campaigns, be they via billboard or leaflet or…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Indeed it was, and apt it is too. Every time I see Symond's bat I'm surprised he's not holding a can of XXXX in one hand as he runs between the wickets.</p></blockquote><p>Why do I find that image so incredibly easy to picture?</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Andrew Symonds is from Birmingham.</p></blockquote><p>My friend Heather, a die-hard Aussie cricket fan who currently lives in London, just tried to kill you by shooting laser beams out her eyes. Frickin' awesome.</p><p>To clarify, he appears to be an oik. And I like him. But that may be my Aussie…</p>
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						<blockquote>Russel of course I can &ndash; its patently obvious. If the council takes high rates of homeowners courtesy of house price infalation that their ridiculous policies and tose of their bedpals in Wgtn have caused and then distributes it as low rent housing and rates rebates then that is exactly…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Every time I see Symond's bat I'm surprised he's not holding a can of XXXX in one hand as he runs between the wickets</p></blockquote><p>Hitler was an Austrian, Napoleon from Corsica, Stalin was Georgian, the guy who invented apartheid whose name I can’t remember was from Holland.  All these people…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>was it Andrew Symonds that copped the "Chrunchy-the Boof head" label?</p></blockquote><p>Indeed it was, and apt it is too. Every time I see Symond's bat I'm surprised he's not holding a can of XXXX in one hand as he runs between the wickets.</p>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<p>Deaker has a book coming out in the next couple of weeks, so I would expect him to try to up his profile with comments that are even more "out there" than usual, </p><p>BTW did anyone else catch the decent into laughter that was last night's "the crowd goes wild"…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, the fuckup I noted in the original postis developing into <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4232645a1823.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a full-blown palaver</a> ...</p><blockquote><p>STOUSH OVER TOUCH JUDGES ROLES<br />Thorburn told Radio Sport yesterday there had been a meeting between coaches, referees and touch judges in September to clarify roles &ndash; and touch judges were told to focus only…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>KevinHicks</title>
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						Russel of course I can &ndash; its patently obvious. If the council takes high rates of homeowners courtesy of house price infalation that their ridiculous policies and tose of their bedpals in Wgtn have caused and then distributes it as low rent housing and rates rebates then that is exactly…
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Yeah, having had my moan in the other thread, my estimation of my fellow citizens just increased several points.
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				<title>David Hamilton</title>
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						The Midday story on the AB's return to NZ was positively heartwarming. Three thousand fans turned up to cheer them back into the country and hold up signs saying things like "we still think you're the best team in the world". They had obviously been expecting a chilly or non…
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>she was in her room with all her All Black figurines lined up, and she was knocking them over one by one.</p></blockquote><p>This made me actually *horrified gasp*</p><p>Then I realised how many naughty corners you'd need to put them all individually in Time Out.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Here is another story I heard: The four year old daughter of a female of my acquaintance got up and left the room after the All Black's lost. When her Mum went to see where she was, she was in her room with all her All Black figurines lined up,…
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Well, Hamilton teenagers are indoctrinated from an early age...
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Reported by a mate on a rugby mailing list I'm on:</p><blockquote><p>Susan was out walking the dog on Sunday afternoon.  She was approaching a couple of young teenage girls dressed in young teenage clothing with the painted toe nails and the makeup etc...  As she got closer she overheard one…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:49:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So not only did we lose we lost due to admisitrative issues overseen by a NZer, who incidentally denied Fiji in a much more faulty refereeing performance a few years back.</p></blockquote><p>Yep. Tragic, innit?</p><blockquote><p>Loved Steve Williams, Tiger Woods' caddy speaking on Morning REport this morning. He was asked about…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						Nick M &ndash; thanks for the link to the Age article. It is well written and very moving too.
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						<p>So not only did we lose we lost due to admisitrative issues overseen by a NZer, who incidentally denied Fiji in a much more faulty refereeing performance a few years back.</p><p>Loved Steve Williams, Tiger Woods' caddy speaking on Morning REport this morning. He was asked about the AB performance…</p>
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				<title>Leigh Kennaway</title>
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						<p><em>Actually, the Hero Parade was always quite fun. If I vote for C&amp;R, will they help bring it back?</em></p><p>One of the major causes of the demise of the late great Hero Parade was the vitriolic homophobia that the organisers had to face from <em>C&amp;R</em> councillors when they were trying to get…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						I should just make it clear that this isn't actually about the Brethren at all.  They discovered the exploit, so it bears their name, but there's no suggestion that they're involved in Auckland's local body race.
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						It'll be interesting to see how RAM do. They’re by far the scariest group out there.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Of course accusations of covert influence are a classic slander against Jews, whereas with the Brethren it appears to be an established fact...</p></blockquote><p>And I think alleging that anyone is "waging war" against the Brethren is overstating the case just a wee bit, for goodness sake ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:30:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>City vision's policy is to raise rates and user charges and then subsidise their voters out of council income.</p></blockquote><p>Can you even come close to backing up that claim?</p><p>For goodness sake, the whole CitRat campaign in Western Bays is basically "the council isn't spending enough money on you" (actually,…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>That's an interesting analogy MikeE.</p><p>Of course accusations of covert influence are a classic slander against Jews, whereas with the Brethren it appears to be an established fact...</p><p>Nonetheless I too would prefer that the issue was about "anonymous donors", not the Brethren bogeymen.</p>
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				<title>MikeE</title>
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						<p>While the billboards might be ugly, they are on private property, and look a lot better than Glenda "I want to ban billboards, then I'll use them to promote myself" Fryer. </p><p>The whole anti nutbar brethren campaign is pretty disturbing.  Imagine what it would be like everyone replaced "brethren" with…</p>
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				<title>Nick Melchior</title>
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						<p>On the autism thing, a friend of mine wrote a piece for the Age about her experiences growing up with an autistic brother:</p><p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/a-decision-that-affects-the-lives-of-real-people/2007/10/07/1191695736091.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/a-decision-that-affects-the-lives-of-real-people/2007/10/07/1191695736091.html</a></p><p>which I thought was lovely.</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmmm. I'm not sure evoking the Brethren is a good idea. And as I/S notes in an update to his No Right Turn blog, this would appear to fall well within the relatively loose restrictions of the Local Electoral Act 2001.</p></blockquote><p>Of course it's legal.  So was the Brethren's campaign…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Vote Buffy '08!
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe, but they'd also have to cut off its head and bury it face-down at a crossroads.</p></blockquote><p>With holy wafers in its mouth...</p><p>Why is it so much easier on Buffy?</p>
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						City vision's policy is to raise rates and user charges and then subsidise their voters out of council income. Then they try to kill the goose that lays the golden egg by imposing massive fines and compliance costs on business over signs. They have hurt so many hard working small…
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a sheer lack of time have kept from from doing much with the <a href="http://www.humans.org.nz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">humans.org.nz</a> site lately, but we're fully back in action this week</p></blockquote><p>I mentioned it to Russell in an email, but for everyone else, next Thursday's <em>Oprah</em> episode is about autism.</p><p>There's a lot of dross on <em>Oprah</em>…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I saw one of those mobile billboards hooning down Mt Eden Road on Monday. It said "CITY VISION = NO VISION" and the "fun police" claim. I laughed outloud at its silliness.</p><p>Actually, the Hero Parade was always quite fun. If I vote for C&amp;R, will they help bring it back?</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						When they fire that fuckwit Deaker they should give his job to Inky.
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						Under a City Vision council we've had higher user charges levied to pay for an upgrade of the central business district.  There is a difference between City Vision and C&R?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Oh, but I do agree with you &ndash; Sean was <em>on</em>, and more evidence that chilling out is really working out well both for him and the audience.  Though reading Peters' own words back to him is really dirty yellow journalism. :)</p><blockquote><p>And then get to play guitar like Robert…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>With you on that. The crap he was spouting on national radio last night and this morning was just atrocious. How many elections can retirement homes around New Zealand lump us with this moron?</p></blockquote><p>Yes. Although the interview <em>was</em> funny for all the wrong reasons, and Sean Plunket was in…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Don't vote City Vision. They are the fun police."</p></blockquote><p>I think we could use some fun police after the trials this year. Maybe they could hire bouncy castles for their parties and make balloon animals instead.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>God, I can only hope the electorate is finally going to wake up to Peters and finally put a stake through the heart of his political career.</p></blockquote><p>With you on that. The crap he was spouting on national radio last night and this morning was just atrocious. How many elections…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:48:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Inky's right, and I felt just the same way as him straight after. A brief mope, then I stuck my head outdoors and it was a gorgeous day to spend with the family and I figured "so what?". These things happen. A 90% chance of winning every game means you…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe, but they'd also have to cut off its head and bury it face-down at a crossroads.</p></blockquote><p>And then get to play guitar like Robert Johnson?</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Maybe, but they'd also have to cut off its head and bury it face-down at a crossroads.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, it is serious &mdash; shouldn't someone have the wit to tell the boss about this stuff? &mdash; but damn, it was also funny.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps not quite so funny for MFAT secretary Simon Murdoch who was (not to put too fine a point on it) comprehensively shat while being in…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>My guess is that the extra candidates in Auckland local body and the billboards may get more people to actually vote which would be a good thing. </p><p>On the rugby that piece by Inky was definitely one of the best.</p><p>There is also a wider issue which is the death…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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