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Dismal Soyanz, in reply to
According to the book, Slater sees Boag as responsible for displacing his father from the National Party presidency.
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And that she was a crap president as well...
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Just finished reading the Bhatnagar/Slater text. Yes, there's personal stuff in there that should have been redacted and I started to do that, to put out a clean copy, but found myself in a quandry - where do you stop? Because politics is personal to Slater. The over-riding theme is one of revenge and putting one over on someone else. If you want to put him in a frenzy, tell him Hamish Price is a nice guy, or that Michelle Boag was a great party president - he takes these things very personally. So I gave up. Sorry.
One thing I would note is that Bhatnagar initiated every exchange between them. Slater is very self-focused. And, when read in conjunction with the Lusk texts, Bhatnagar was a much better friend to Slater than the other way around.
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Dismal Soyanz, in reply to
One thing I would note is that Bhatnagar initiated every exchange between them. Slater is very self-focused. And, when read in conjunction with the Lusk texts, Bhatnagar was a much better friend to Slater than the other way around.
Yes, a recurring theme both before and after the book's release is how he turned on and abused his erstwhile friends.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
According to the book, Slater sees Boag as responsible for displacing his father from the National Party presidency.
Sorry for dropping by so soon, but John Slater lost the National Party presidency because it was contested and the other candidate won more votes. It’s how these things work, not least when Slater beat Geoff Thompson in '98, and I should know because I was a voting delegate to the party conference on both occasions.
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Dismal Soyanz, in reply to
I have no doubt it was done by a vote. I’m less sure that Cameron Slater saw that as a reason to accept the outcome.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Sorry for dropping by so soon, but John Slater lost the National Party presidency because it was contested and the other candidate won more votes. It’s how these things work, not least when Slater beat Geoff Thompson in ’98, and I should know because I was a voting delegate to the party conference on both occasions.
As Dismal says, I have no doubt it was done by the book. But due process seems to matter little in Slater's fevered utu-driven imagination.
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row, row, row your boat…
Some ‘parsing’ thoughts on National’s TV ad:
- it says much about their unstated agenda and methods…I can see their thinking:
Rowing is the ‘sport du jour’, and the ‘Eights; is the elite ’Blue Ribbon’ event,
too right, they’ll have some of that!
Wahoo! a clean 'sweep'!
Oarsome!But s this the ship of state represented,
or merely a ‘shell’ company for ‘scull-duggery’ ?It’s all very ‘OxBridge’ – the NZ Census has population at approx 70% Caucasian, Maori 14%, Asian 9% and Pacific Islands 7%
I’m not seeing that in National’s ‘eight’, which comprises predominantly young white folk maybe one person of a different ethnicity…What’s more none of them are looking forward, they are all blindly heading into the future towards something beyond their reach, attention fixed backwards to the lightweight in the stern calling the shots…
All their ‘rigging’ is in place, but their pitch is off, and their ‘pull thru’ abysmal, too many more ‘air strokes’ and they’ll lose momentum, added to their taking on water as the ‘backsplash’ shows they can’t even ‘bury the blade’ well! …and they do like ‘meddling’….
They picked their metaphor well…
…and funny how on deck it feels more like a Slave Galley…
(filled by the ‘press-gang’
- hmmm the press Galley?)a slam dunk… ?
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Nora Leggs, in reply to
more realistic?
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Oarsome!
Until, that is, they run into a whale...
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
more realistic?
...needs more rope!
:- )
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
blowhard spitholes...
Until, that is, they run into a whale…
aye, aye, scupper
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Nora Leggs, in reply to
...needs more rope!
looks like it's been around a while
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
ropey governance…
…it’s been around a while
much like the National Party!
They do say that you:
’can lead a hawser to water
but you can’t make it sink…’ -
We’re on a Boat… apparently. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Honest National Party ad
Good sourcing!
I was gonna go with The Magic Christian's 'Engine room scene but it is definitely NSFW (or possibly even this century) and may have propelled the debate off at a tangent ...Love that 'not a country' aside
though with NAFTA still floating around somewhere
it probably needs a 'yet' ... -
I cant see Eminem being too happy about his song being used for National...
Play this to the end, the lyric works quite well I think.. -
Oh the Irony..,.
The song that National ripped for their ad is called, wait for it…
Lose Yourself
Yeah Mr Key, you can Lose, yourself…
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Ben Uffendell beat me to it...
A group of nine white people dressed in blue are seen vigorously rowing towards the sunrise as a voiceover gets the lyrics to Eminem's Lose Yourself terribly wrong.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
give 'em enough trope...
Ben Uffendell beat me to it…
Me too, must be morphic resonance
or a meme screaming... -
Steve Barnes, in reply to
a meme screaming…
As JK would say... "at the end of the day its all about me and me meme"
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Johnny’s on the sidline talkin’ with the gutter slime
He’s hangin’ from a meat hook, a whale oil beef hook
Lyin’ like a cheap crook
undone by Nicky’s new book
look out kid its something ya did
ya can’t tell when but you’ll be hangin’ round the pig pen
Collin’s got yer number better call a plumber
he’s got a million dollar bills be retiring this summer.…(deepest apologies to Bob Dylan, Jack Kerouac and Woody Guthrie and hat tip to Peter Bromhead)
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Godwin ..... but in a good way
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That one's been removed. I'm guessing it was a Downfall?
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