Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: NetHui is here

Sean Murgatroyd

Mon, 04 Jul 2011 11:11:21 +1200

I don't think there was a complete absence of creatives – I talked to plenty, but I do recall that one of the streams set up to talk about valuing "content" as a way to support creatives which mysteriously turned into a discussion around "if you get your company's profit…

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:40:17 +1200

It was via SiteGround and I did have to pay for it.

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:36:51 +1200

Jeremy: it is a different site www.cinemasofnz.info and very, very much at a development stage. Eventually, I plan for it to be a site on independent/arthouse cinemas around New Zealand--their location, history, audience catchment, unique features etc. Haven't had the time to develop it very far but I have been…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:41:05 +1200

people power...
I guess they just don’t really care…
OK, I'll retract that...

I just got a nice thank you from a Tony Smith, General Manager of corporate communications of the Melbourne IT group (who run Domainz) in Brisbane, thanking me for my constructive email to them, and he says…

Kumara Republic

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:30:18 +1200

I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

Where do I sign up?

Sacha

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:48:35 +1200

Russell's NetHui session is up soon from 1.25pm:

video stream and
twitter stream (note: you now have to make sure the "All" option is selected on Twitter searches or only some tweets are shown).

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:28:59 +1200

Dumb aims...
speaking of Domainz...

...they just sent me an email to fill out a survey to enter a competition to win an iPad2 – with some really ill conceived questions – like one that asked you to tick 3 options – one of which was 'none of the above'…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:37:43 +1200

Getting geeks and artists in the same room

It would be nice if the geeks and the traditional IT industry would get in the same room. Or even have a discussion in adjoining railway carriages or something?

Kumara Republic

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:02:47 +1200

Getting geeks and artists in the same room is a mild obsession of mine. Y'all have much to offer each other.

Better still, geeks who are also artists.

Jeremy Andrew

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:51:09 +1200

Don't be so niggardly, Ian.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:47:01 +1200

That would have gone down well in the US

I believe that there are a lot of nigglers
in that particular woodpile...

Russell Brown

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:19:23 +1200

However, it would be fair to say that many APRA members and RIANZ affiliates do appreciate it.

Which was the correct answer :-)

Getting geeks and artists in the same room is a mild obsession of mine. Y'all have much to offer each other.

Samuel Scott

Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:25:51 +1200

It would be fair to say that not all .nz registrants — let's say rianz.co.nz and apra.co.nz — appreciate their fees being used to lobby in this direction.

However, it would be fair to say that many APRA members and RIANZ affiliates do appreciate it.

Sacha

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:13:49 +1200

niger.st

That would have gone down well in the US

Robyn Gallagher

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:01:35 +1200

I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

My new website is a .co.nz. Despite having had a domain name for my personal website since 1998, this is the first .nz domain I've had. It absolutely felt like the right thing…

Jeremy Andrew

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:22:01 +1200

I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

Well, don't leave us hanging...
The link on your profile still points to historyoftvinnz.com.
;-)

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:08:00 +1200

Also (how did we get here) it is fairly straightforward, technically, to construct an inverter that takes random power (batteries, solar panels, generators, iffy mains) and outputs a mains voltage synchronized to a time reference (quartz or even GPS). I doubt Jaycar would have such a thing ATM, but this…

Geoff Lealand

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:52:37 +1200

I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:45:23 +1200

actually. they slow down and speed up in reaction to grid load, but maintain an average for the benefit of synchronous electric clocks. With such things becoming antique, that gets less neccesary

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:25:26 +1200

Love hertz, if you're going to San Francisco...
Watch your devices – from July The North American Electric Reliability Corp is going to experiment with the US national power grid:
The group that oversees the U.S. power grid is proposing a change that has the potential to disrupt electric…

Russell Brown

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:40:06 +1200

Get Vikram to tell you the weirdness of how they got to play the doco… then we can talk about copyright and where this whole shooting match is going.

Ah! Just heard the story of how it got resolved. I think we’ll save it for the show, if possible :-)

Russell Brown

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:05:38 +1200

Others are using .tv, .ly and .co

Hah! I was helping Sam with his 'The Sauce' feature for this week's show and added precisely those examples.

What odd little accidents that Libya controls one of the more often-seen ccTLDs, the one used by Bit.ly, and that little Tuvalu could do…

Don Christie

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:30:10 +1200

Only one party can be delegated a ccTLD.

Yes, but there are plenty of ccTLDs to chose from. PublicAddress uses .net for example. Others are using .tv, .ly and .co

What INZ and their subsidiaries have done is set up a system of governance and transparency that makes .nz one…

Paul Brislen

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:25:30 +1200

Get Vikram to tell you the weirdness of how they got to play the doco... then we can talk about copyright and where this whole shooting match is going.

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:11:41 +1200

I might be wrong, but think that for US domains, anyone can get some sort of delegated registration authority and register as many names as they want for a fixed fee. So they do crap stuff like detecting when someone googles a domain name and immediately registering it so they…

Gareth Ward

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:05:55 +1200

My auntie sent it to me on VHS
You kids with your file sharing...

Russell Brown

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:40:50 +1200

This obviously gives lie to the idea that INZ somehow has a “natural monopoly” on domain names.

They do actually use the phrase "natural monopoly" themselves with respect to .nz — and accurately, I think. Only one party can be delegated a ccTLD.

The really important change after the 2000…

ScottY

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:31:48 +1200

For me the decision on whether to attend went something like: "Lessig's talking? Stand aside or lose a limb!"

That is a big reason for my going. That and I get three days out of the office to meet loads of interesting people and still get to claim it is…

Rowan Crawford

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:57:32 +1200

For me the decision on whether to attend went something like: "Lessig's talking? Stand aside or lose a limb!"

Don Christie

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:28:44 +1200

So that’s why .nz domain names are $35-40 a year, while .net .org or .com names are only $15-20.

This obviously gives lie to the idea that INZ somehow has a "natural monopoly" on domain names.

What is also important to note is that wholesale fees have been falling in…

izogi

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:17:04 +1200

It would be fair to say that not all .nz registrants — let's say rianz.co.nz and apra.co.nz — appreciate their fees being used to lobby in this direction
Not everyone appreciates everything the government spends their taxes on, either. Let's just say that the RIANZ and APRA fees were fully…

Stephen Judd

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:03:14 +1200

That suggests a good thing would be a long term plan to pay heavily into a foundation now to continue funding ISOCNZ's work when that revenue from names has dried up. (I confess I'm ignorant here and such a plan may already exist).

maupuia

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:00:31 +1200

– I thought the presence of artists at this year’s Webstock really brought something fresh and useful to that event.

I know you've found it fresh and useful EVERY YEAR :)

But yes, having actual artists talk about how they use the web, as opposed to strategists, commentators and social…

Gary Hutchings

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:48:59 +1200

Although the recent ".everything" decision will probably see the eventual demise of many of the traditional domain space monopolies, (although the $200K price will mean it will be a rather slow death)

Russell Brown

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:42:34 +1200

Well, no. My company, Catalyst IT, creates thousands of lines of "content" every single week. I really do object to not being included in the sector that has interest in content creation and therefore issues of copyright etc.

Fair call.

That said, it is a sad that members of the…

Rob Stowell

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:39:03 +1200

So that's why .nz domain names are $35-40 a year, while .net .org or .com names are only $15-20.
Hm.
Good information. It should be clear to people what they're paying for.

Don Christie

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:15:54 +1200

content creators are, as I noted, thin on the ground

That said,…

Public Address

Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:15:54 +1200

Discussion from blog post.