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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>interactive possibilities that an ipad or similar create are exciting.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely. It's called HTML5.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But Mum! You haven't seen the gorgeously vivid Marvel Comics app on the iPad!</p></blockquote><p>Bring it next time you come to visit, dear, along with the soft nougat.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I wouldn't read a graphic novel on a backlit screen on any light &ndash; I'd do it on paper.</p></blockquote><p>I suspect for some graphic novelists, the interactive possibilities that an ipad or similar create are exciting. Creating bridges between comic, film, computer game etc.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I understand. And I wouldn't read a graphic novel on a backlit screen on any light &ndash; I'd do it on paper. So what's your point?</p></blockquote><p>But Mum! You haven't seen the gorgeously vivid Marvel Comics app on the iPad!</p><p>Seriously, it's great. Better than paper, even.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Many thanks all who provided links for Kobo info, and helpful comments. Especially good to know that the thing will accept pdf files (I have a lot of these and normally park them on a thumb-drive but it would be so much better to have them immmediately available -like a…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sure, but the Kobo doesn't show color in any light. I couldn't use it to read graphic novels unless I was happy for black and white only.</p></blockquote><p>I understand. And I wouldn't read a graphic novel on a backlit screen on any light &ndash; I'd do it on paper. So…</p>
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						<p>A fairly basic review of the Kobo from Australia, where it was launched a week earlier by Borders rather than Whitcoulls (same owners), is <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/review-kobo-ereader-20100519-ve5r.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. </p><p>The price difference: A$199 or NZ$295.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sure, but the Kobo doesn't show color in any light. I couldn't use it to read graphic novels unless I was happy for black and white only.</p></blockquote><p>It would lose one of its main advantages (battery life) if you made that change. They tend to work by having thousands of…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the iPad doesn't work in the sun.</p></blockquote><p>Sure, but the Kobo doesn't show color in any light. I couldn't use it to read graphic novels unless I was happy for black and white only.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This isn't really an e-book, more an app for the ipad, but it's pretty clever. I won't be in the market for one this year, but it does have a lot of scope for innovation in delivery of content.</p></blockquote><p>That's brilliant and coming close to the Stephenson's vision of the…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But the kobo isn't really for reading graphic novels, is it? Black and white.</p></blockquote><p>And the iPad doesn't work in the sun. The two technologies will have to overcome their shortcomings at some point. Meanwhile, those who don't mind the backlighting will opt for netbooks or iPads, those who do…</p>
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gew68Qj5kxw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gew68Qj5kxw</a></p><p>This isn't really an e-book, more an app for the ipad, but it's pretty clever. I won't be in the market for one this year, but it does have a lot of scope for innovation in delivery of content.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyhow it looked great &ndash; I've always been in the "until it looks as good as paper, don't wake me up" camp.</p></blockquote><p>0ld 5k00l? I find reading off paper harder now. I guess it's what you get used to, but books held in the hand are just not my bag…</p>
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't see anywhere that Kobo would be able to play other media like videos, if it could that would be neat, but I guess it would be on the premium version.</p></blockquote><p>It uses an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Ink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">e-ink</a> screen, which is greyscale and not back-lit. That's the reason why battery life is…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						I read quite a few PDFs in my line of work so Kobo sounds good from that perspective. I'm attracted to the multi-plaform-ity of Kobo &ndash; multiple sources of reading material is attractive.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gotta say, kobo looks neat. 800x600 is decent resolution for reading.</p></blockquote><p>It's not just the resolution, it's the lack of backlighting. The first time I saw it I thought it was off and they had put on some sort of display mask on it (I'm an idiot, I know).  Anyhow…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Gotta say, kobo looks neat. 800x600 is decent resolution for reading. My PDA on 640x240 is OK, but not really what I'd call pleasant. I think it's a bit short sighted to only have the controlling button on one side of the thing, though. I use my right hand for…
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						Those interested in reading e-books &mdash; and I don't include myself in that category yet &mdash; should check out this local e-book store, <a href="http://www.mebooks.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">mebooks</a>, which is really an extension of Victoria University's Electronic Text Centre. Currently, it is about out-of-copyright titles for free &mdash; <em>Man Alone</em> and original Katherine Mansfield…
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Islander</p><blockquote><p>Can you scan on your own computer titles you own and then upload them to the KoBo?" (This would be the killer ability for me...)</p></blockquote><p>Yes you can. It reads PDF. I looked at one of these today and it seems very functional for the job it was designed…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(And I like the idea of the netbook, too. More for less always sounds good to this cheapo consumer :)</p></blockquote><p>Fair call. But in the US, it appears that the iPad is <a href="http://www.maclife.com/article/news/ipad_cannibalizing_netbook_sales" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">laying waste to the netbook market</a>.</p><p>A more recent <a href="http://www.digitaltrends.com/features/survey-ipad-cutting-into-netbook-sales/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">survey</a> shed some further light on why netbook sales…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Someone has probably linked to it already- but I re-read <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/04/26/100426fa_fact_auletta" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this New Yorker article</a> last night, and it looks as if the ebook 'market' (and the publishing business) is going to change fairly sharply in the near future- especially when Google enter. <br />Amazon and Apple appear to be following similar…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>and don't forget the kayak</p></blockquote><p>I deliberately only mentioned the things that aren't distracting. My grog cabinet doesn't really help me work....</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						It looks to be the same device I saw demonstrated in Italy last year and it really impressed me. They said at the time that one could upload one's PDFs on it, as Mikaere says. So once you're set up to scan your books you should be sweet, Keri. I'm…
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've checked the website &ndash; seems to be an exercise in enticement but doesnt answer questions like "Can you scan on your own computer titles you own and then upload them to the KoBo?" (This would be the killer ability for me...)</p></blockquote><p>It would seem so, the article says:</p><blockquote><p>you…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'll go to the workstation, which is much better set up with a proper chair, desk with notes laid out, dual monitors, mice, ergonomic keyboard, headsets, quiet room, telephones, printer, servers, router, fridge, coffee, library, strong lighting.</p></blockquote><p>and don't forget the kayak</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						More on the Kobo <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/kobo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">from NBR</a>.
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						<blockquote><p>an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public</p><p>    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?</p><p>Not necessarily, if the Film Archive in Wellington, and other such institutions are anything to go by.</p></blockquote><p>Until 2 weeks ago when I…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Windoze isn't nearly so annoying on netbooks...it seems to be a really cut down version, and that's just fine by me. I just want a lightweight OS that works. A lounge machine isn't really expected to crunch numbers, just provide basic things like word processing, web browsing, picture viewing, music…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I'm wondering what the new-gen hp mini convertible tablets are like &ndash; still windoze though
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						A lounge room device turns out to be surprisingly useful. But it's also already sorted &ndash; netbooks. I have to say that the reading experience on them is actually a lot nicer than a book shaped object, mostly because you don't have to hold them. You just sit them on…
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Hmm, thanks Sacha &ndash; if the thing actually *could* download own copies , I'd snap it up right now. The trouble with iPad/Kindle et al is &ndash; you can only download stuff that they've already uploaded (legally or not) &ndash; but not necessarily books from your own library.</p><p>cheerz-</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						And Hadyn Jones of Consumer magazine informally likens the Kobo experience to reading on the venerable FX82 calculator. Ah, nostalgia.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anybody know anything about the KoBo, whitcoull's just available- here e-reader?</p></blockquote><p>Funny you should ask that, Peter McLennan was just telling me this afternoon about his first encounter. Sounds like slothful performance and some poor interface choices count against it. However, maybe that's only apparent if you've used an iPad…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>If you turn the iPad over, it doubles as a chopping board.</p></blockquote><p>So *that's* why they didn't stick a camera in it</p>
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						<p>Anybody know anything about the KoBo, whitcoull's just available- here e-reader?</p><p>I've checked the website &ndash; seems to be an exercise in enticement but doesnt answer questions like "Can you scan on your own computer titles you own and then upload them to the KoBo?" (This would be the killer…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:35:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is there a non-slip version? You know, something with grips to hold onto while in the bath? :)</p></blockquote><p>You can download an app for that.</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well you can read an ipad in the bath. But like a book, don't drop it.</p></blockquote><p>Is there a non-slip version? You know, something with grips to hold onto while in the bath? :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:04:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?</p></blockquote><p>put it on a Chinese server.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 16:47:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I read it while I'm soaking in a hot bath?<br />If not, then it's no use to me.</p></blockquote><p>coming soon the iLilypad...<br />(complete with transmorphed Prince...)</p><blockquote><p>I know the number of people that come to my site because the bits and pieces, like the Zodiac data, are not available…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 16:43:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?</p></blockquote><p>Having music available would be desirable but not essential. First thing you'd want is a complete record of every piece of music released in NZ. After you've spent a couple of years compiling that, you can start trying to add…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p>My personal test of new technology for reading things, like books, like magazines, like journal articles, is the bath test: Can I read it while I'm soaking in a hot bath?</p><p>If not, then it's no use to me.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?</p></blockquote><p>As George says, do-able, but clearly you work within the boundaries that you can negotiate and some things are easier than others. I'm not talking about uploading every record ever made in NZ but the data relating to much of…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?</p></blockquote><p>Not necessarily, if the Film Archive in Wellington, and other such institutions are anything to go by.</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<blockquote>an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public </blockquote> would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I thought the National Library (maybe Turnbull or Hocken) archived all NZ releases (and ephemera) &ndash; might be a simple, and supportive, step for them to make that available somehow &ndash; perhaps along the NZ film/on screen model...</p></blockquote><p>Yes they do, but I'm talking of something more than that, an…</p>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because the App Store doesn't sell porny apps? Really? You might be making a bit much of one phrase ("freedom from porn") in a personal email to a punter. It's not that unreasonable to cite that as a selling point on a device kids will use.</p></blockquote><p>But I do find…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>The iPad will also Blend...<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:09:07 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Loro adorazione è religiosa.</p></blockquote><p>Darwinian, more likely.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:07:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you turn the iPad over, it doubles as a chopping board. True story.</p></blockquote><p>if you're making pizza, you can use it as a peel.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm your annoying cousin.</p></blockquote><p>Hey, we have a theme song even!  <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e0u11rgd9Q" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e0u11rgd9Q</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:57:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						Loro adorazione è religiosa.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:53:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Slating the iPad...</strong></p><blockquote><p>Here we go again, the iPhone as a killer device.</p></blockquote><p>...or as God would say &ndash; take two tablets and call me in a coupla thousand years...<br />I'll be moseying on then.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:48:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the iPad media hype track was about 90 seconds long in the end. We wanted something lighter to go out on, which is pretty common.</p></blockquote><p>But in the context of the preceding segment &ndash; here's something you don't get to hear about in the NZ media, and it…</p>
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						<p>I will one day get an iPad because I want one, it is bloody cool, and using my iPhone to scroll (phew, nearly wrote troll) blogs while watching TV is getting to be a pain.</p><p>Anyway, what are you, my mother?</p><p>And RB, while I personally appreciate your defence of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:44:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've got it</p></blockquote><p>that does sound appropriately turtle-neckish</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>  A host of other big brands have their phones and things made by the Chinese company Foxconn, where there has been a spate of suicides &mdash; but it's only Apple you're hearing about.</blockquote>Here we go again, the iPhone as a killer device.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well you have a point there. They should use this scenario for an iPad ad.</p></blockquote><p>I've got it: groovy-looking dude makes some electronic music on his iPad, uploads it to an MP3 blog, tweets about it, then takes his iPad into the kitchen to cook something special for his hot…</p>
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						snap &ndash; <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&amp;objectid=10647723" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">market cap</a>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As a media commentator, Russell has an obligation to do what everybody else is doing? No, I don't think so. I thought in fact it was the whole point about Media Watch and Media7 &ndash; to examine what the media are doing, critically.</p></blockquote><p>I think the iPad media hype track…</p>
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						What, nothing about 3D for depth and not cheap thrills?
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote>But if you don't have the Recipe book you want on hand, and don't want to consume paper and ink for a one-off dish &ndash; but you can find it on-line well this would be a good way to do it, and less cumbersome than getting the laptop into position…</blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>You don't have to be an Apple fanboi to appreciate the impact the iPad could have &ndash; especially if you paid any attention to the difference in what was said about the iPhone before and after its launch. </p><p>There's much discussion going on about the iPad's usability, with app developers…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Hugga Hector Day...</strong></p><blockquote><p>(And incidentally, you know what else has the right form factor for that? A bloody recipe book. Or a printout if it's a recipe you found on the net.)</p></blockquote><p>But if you don't have the Recipe book you want on hand, and don't want to consume paper…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Yes.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>As an Italian do you have to be so "Passionate" about everything?<br />;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>As a media commentator, Russ almost has an obligation to cover such things,</p></blockquote><p>As a media commentator, Russell has an obligation to do what everybody else is doing? No, I don't think so. I thought in fact it was the whole point about Media Watch and Media7 &ndash; to examine…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						I feel that I must come to Russell's defence now, having poked him about the fanboi aspect. I think that anything that eats into McVicar's media time a good thing. As a media commentator, Russ almost has an obligation to cover such things, even if the iPad is the Lady…
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>ISID (I see it differently)</p><blockquote><p>Well, firstly, it's sort of my job to have media gadgets</p></blockquote><p>Oh. See you had me confused, for a while it looked as though your job was to only have Jobs gadgets :-)</p><blockquote><p>I feel like I'm being hectored now.</p></blockquote><p>Not half as much as…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>iTunes is great for making your own comps though.</p></blockquote><p>the evolution of the Mix Ape</p><blockquote><p>a central, funded, NZ music archive</p></blockquote><p>I thought the National Library (maybe Turnbull or Hocken) archived all NZ releases (and ephemera) &ndash; might be a simple, and supportive, step for them to make that available…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I feel like I'm being hectored now.</p></blockquote><p>I have that effect on people sometimes. Actually I think this time it was a genuine attempt at hectoring. I was a little frustrated to be honest in the Media7 ep. with McVicar which was so desperately stretched for time to find some…</p>
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						<blockquote>A loungeroom device? Is this what the world media have been hammering us with for months? Something to sit on the kitchen sill with a recipe on? (And incidentally, you know what else has the right form factor for that? A bloody recipe book. Or a printout if it's a…</blockquote>
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						(I should have qualified that "perturbing" statement. I meant that while it is your job to have media gadgets, maybe it's not everyone's? Although sometimes it feels like it is. And that could be in part because not many technology writers set aside the fact it's their job to own…
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						<blockquote><p>Well, firstly, it's sort of my job to have media gadgets</p></blockquote><p>That is one of the most perturbing sentences I've ever read!</p><blockquote><p>I imagine it'll be a lounge-room device, but I could see it being a suitable form factor to sit on the kitchen sill with a recipe on it.</p></blockquote><p>…</p>
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						<blockquote>The thing is I don't get is... where? I mean you have an iPhone, and you have a desktop Mac, right? So where is the intermediate place where one uses an iPad? While standing at the kitchen bench? In the driveway? Unless I suppose this thing suprseded the laptop. But…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote>I'll buy an iPad in July, and use to to read books, comics and magazines, watch video, play games, do email, web browsing, light word processing, etc. Were I suitably talented, I might want the Korg synthesiser app, or Autodesk's Sketchbook Pro. I'm quite keen on Wikipanion. I'm sure I'll…</blockquote>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the other hand, if you follow the iHype you would think the problems world hunger, war and ugly clothes had been solved and would continue to be solved if we only let the nice Mr. Jobs get on with managing our lives.</p><p>Kyle, I have tried Apple's computers, honestly.…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Russell, no-one mentioned the sky falling, death by 1000 cuts is more of a problem. </p><p>On the other hand, if you follow the iHype you would think the problems world hunger, war and ugly clothes had been solved and would continue to be solved if we only let the nice…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>For what values of "just works"? I have tried an iPad and found it doesn't work for just about everything I use a computer to do...other than browsing the Internet, and even then there is a massive youtube fail.</p></blockquote><p>You can do even less computing on an iPhone, which runs…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you wanted something to do what a computer does, why didn't you try ..... a computer?</p></blockquote><p>instead of a fashion accessory.<br />There, fixed it for Ya.<br />:-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I have tried an iPad and found it doesn't work for just about everything I use a computer to do...other than browsing the Internet, and even then there is a massive youtube fail.</p></blockquote><p>If you wanted something to do what a computer does, why didn't you try apple's extensive line…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I'm not going to be hating on Steve for making an appliance that just works, and defending that just-works status.</p></blockquote><p>For what values of "just works"? I have tried an iPad and found it doesn't work for just about everything I use a computer to do...other than browsing the…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, you're quite right, I've been regretting that all day, sorry about that Islander. I think perhaps I should start drinking again.</p></blockquote><p>Onya.</p><p>Islander, no more suggesting other people have been drinking &mdash; unless you're <em>absolutely bloody sure</em> they have. ;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>In a culture that marketed Elvis as the King of Rock n Roll?</p></blockquote><p>He has some <a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=11:jifuxqr5ldhe~T1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">claim</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Elvis' five Sun singles pioneered the blend of R&amp;B and C&amp;W that would characterize rockabilly music. For quite a few scholars, they remain not only Elvis' best singles, but the best rock &amp; roll ever recorded.</p></blockquote><p>…</p>
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						<p>I've just watched (unexpectedly) in real time the last five minutes in flight &ndash; including head-up display from the cabin &ndash; of the space shuttle Atlantis on its final landing in Florida. </p><p>After 25 years, 32 trips and over 10,000,000 miles of flight. </p><p>After <a href="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/first_of_the_last_space_shuttl.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this preparation</a> (beautiful photo-essay of one…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Just trying saying "I see it differently" rather than applying "scrutiny" to someone else's personal opinion.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, you're quite right,  I've been regretting that all day, sorry about that Islander. I think perhaps I should start drinking again.</p>
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						How about The Duke? the Lieutenant Brigadier of guerilla art? The Bin Laden?
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In a culture that marketed Elvis as the King of Rock n Roll? Seems pretty same-old from this neck of the woods.</p></blockquote><p>Well, yeah, same old. That is after all the criticism.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The idea of a reigning king of guerilla art is rather odd, I have to say.</p></blockquote><p>In a culture that marketed a white boy as the King of Rock n Roll?</p><blockquote><p>"high brow/low brow are a horribly hangover from an (unfinished) art history major"</p></blockquote><p>I think when you get to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Notions of high brow/low brow are a horribly hangover from an (unfinished) art history major.</p></blockquote><p>Boy did we have a thread for you recently.</p><blockquote><p>reigning king of guerilla art</p></blockquote><p>I'm personally impressed by the <a href="http://nigelparry.com/in-the-press/bansky-quote-daily-star.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ballsiness</a> of Banksy's <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/banksy-a-guerilla-in-our-midst-501660.ht" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">efforts</a> like "Early Man Goes to Market" (inadvertently, then proudly) <a href="http://www.iconoclasm.dk/?p=38" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">displayed</a> at the…</p>
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						The idea of a reigning king of guerilla art is rather odd, I have to say.
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				<title>Grace Dalley</title>
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						Samuel: I guess Lady Gaga and Banksy both work within "low art" genres, however much they do or don't subvert the form.  But isn't it good to have an excuse to feel superior to the madly rich and unbelievably famous people. :-)
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						<p>Does it make me a pretentious twat that I find both Lady Ga Ga and Banksy a bit low brow? Low brow in the wrong way of course, which is to say extremely successful. </p><p>Actually, that's ridiculous. I just don't really like Lady Ga Ga, and while Banksy is amusing,…</p>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just bought Buffalo on FLAC and of course it won't run on my stupid iTunes... d'oh!</p></blockquote><p>There is a mildly complex way to play FLACs in iTunes here<br /><a href="http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/06/12/how-to-play-flac-files-in-itunes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a></p><p>If that doesn't work, send someone at TPF an email <br /><span id="x-protectfilter-1"></span><script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/if (document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1') != null) { document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').innerHTML=function(e){var r='';for(var i=166;i>=0;i-=2){r+=e.charAt(i);}return r;}('\u003eYai/z\u003cdz8nn.EoTcu.Hngozi2tjayd3n\"u1obfUx5ivnYeooThFpyethotp@xd4nrajbw\u003eA\"czvnH.\u003eoacf.Vn8oSiYtja5dPn0umoDf6xRiAnXe0orhwpueth\u003ctT@rdanKa8bd:BomtylgiIaWm9\"2=Tfce@rWhs Yav\u003cV'); document.getElementById('x-protectfilter-1').removeAttribute('id'); }/*]]>*/</script> <br />and we'll see what we can sort out.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>ninjacloak  is a reasonably reliable web based proxy. for stickier workarounds,</p></blockquote><p>Mostly in Thailand things flow through without much hassle but you get the odd kneejerk by some over-enthusiastic bureaucrat who blocks a list, which slowly gets unblocked when worked through by smarter heads bit by bit. </p><p>The only real…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You know, me too. But that doesn't make Job's control freakerie any more attractive. His "think of the children" line is exactly the one being used by China, Australia and the "entertainment" industry to close down the freedom of the internet as we know it.</p></blockquote><p>Because the App Store doesn't…</p>
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						<a href="http://ninjacloak.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ninjacloak</a> is a reasonably reliable web based proxy. for stickier workarounds, download freegate. Freegate is quite interesting in that their prime purpose is to help out those blocked by politically motivated firewalls.  It won't allow you to access porn, but you will be able to access some of the evilest…
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						you're now state-approved
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						The site is unblocked now. Oddness.
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						<blockquote><p>I like artists who don't take themselves too seriously</p></blockquote><p>seems pretty calculated to me</p>
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						<p>The weird thing is that the top layer url is blocked but the posts are all available url by url.</p><p>I feel like a punk again (cue: first Clash album)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Having just had my blog blocked by the Thai censors I know how the children feel</p></blockquote><p>Weird. Your blog is hardly a glowing endorsement of the Red Shirts, or any other shirts for that matter, and if anything it resembles a (cautious and caveated) endorsement of Thailand.</p><p>Could it be…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>His "think of the children" line is exactly the one being used by China, Australia and the "entertainment" industry to close down the freedom of the internet as we know it.</p></blockquote><p>Having just had my blog blocked by the Thai censors I know how the children feel</p>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						I feel it's something of a miracle that the internet didn't cause the music industry to bottom out completely.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>. . . does anyone remember Man's single 2oz of Plastic With A Hole in the Middle? Or Bauhaus's album Press Eject And Give Me The Tape?</p></blockquote><p>No, but do I remember <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2628553923_743bfbd978.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Yo Grace Dalley &ndash; I frankly relish *anyone*, artist or no, who doesnt take themselves too seriously.<br />Only megalomaniacs, low key or high key (ahem) do this-</p>
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				<title>Grace Dalley</title>
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						<p>Regarding Lady Gaga, and the irony quotient of her name, does anyone remember Man's single <strong>2oz of Plastic With A Hole in the Middle</strong>?  Or Bauhaus's album <strong>Press Eject And Give Me The Tape</strong>?</p><p>I like artists who don't take themselves too seriously.</p>
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						O, and I've never bought anything from iTunes either- the Nano is loaded with stuff from my own cds...
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						I love my current iMac (after the awful OSX Leopard programme was sorted.) I really enjoy my iPod Nano (holds all the music I ever need when away from home (where I have many hundred cds.) There is no way in hell I'm going to be buying an iPad (…
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, I'd be happy to see Flash die.</p></blockquote><p>You know, me too. But that doesn't make Job's control freakerie any more attractive. His "think of the children" line is exactly the one being used by China, Australia and the "entertainment" industry to close down the freedom of the internet as…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Don't think this one has been posted here yet. Russell talks with Wammo about this very topic this morn, including some stats.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK71SW9-wjw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK71SW9-wjw</a></p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I like JB for their pricing[..] but I don't linger there.</p></blockquote><p>Christ I'll say. I went in to the Wellington one in the BNZ Centre last week for the first time. It nearly induced vomiting. I had to beat a hasty retreat.</p>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<p>Nice! Obviously not that big an audio nerd, me. I just bought Buffalo on FLAC and of course it won't run on my stupid iTunes... d'oh!</p><p>But put me down for any files "at least CD size" then... why starve yourself with a 128kbps hissy piece of crap when you…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>it came in at over 2,000kbps! Who knew that was even possible?</p></blockquote><p>TV gear utilises a sample rate of 48kHz instead of the 44.1kHz standard of CDs etc. I'm no expert, but the bit depth is probably 24 instead of 16; between the two, that would account for the near…</p>
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						easy Sacha...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:18:45 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>a central, funded, NZ music archive</p></blockquote><p>NZ on Ear?</p>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<blockquote><p>256k AAC &mdash; generally pretty good, but occasionally problematic.</p></blockquote><p>I'll take anything 192kbps and above with FREE downloads, sure... but if it's mine and I have a choice, I ain't runnin' nothin' less than full CD size. And Apple/iTunes clearly are no use there. The default factory setting on my…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>+1 for Lady Gaga.</p></blockquote><p>I just want to look at her outfits and videos. Her music leaves me rather cold &ndash; it doesn't seem to have what I need in the way of hooks, or something. Which is a bummer, because I am usually all about big fun pantsless pop…</p>
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				<title>chris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Pay me to tag your shop, it's still antibusiness.</p><p>I'm going to say no, it's not. Just a "new" idea in capitalism. There's plenty of corporate organisations that use anti-corporate messages to sell their products. Still selling shit.I'm going to say no, it's not. Just a "new" idea in capitalism.…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>we need a music archive, the amount of music that is and has slipped from the public sphere is sad... to put it mildly</p></blockquote><p>It's a hobby horse of mine and has been for years. We have bits and pieces out there doing sterling jobs but a central, funded, NZ…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Nick Hornby wrote <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/sep/06/nick-hornby-mp3-record-shops" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a piece in the Observer</a> last year on the role that music blogs play now.</p><p>Record stores of olden times were a place to both purchase music but also discover music. Purchasing music has moved online, but &ndash; as Russell noted above &ndash; it's hard to discover…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>we need a music archive, the amount of music that is and has slipped from the public sphere is sad... to put it mildly</p><p>Me I like albums and even buy some, very few from NZ stores as they are generally souless and have not that which I want </p><p>I…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I wouldn't trust anything that guy says.</p></blockquote><p>nah, me neither. Wanna buy a Nice'n'Urlich box set?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>didn't know this was a council thang &ndash; thats well cool</p></blockquote><p>The label itself wasn't council but grew from the council scheme which funded the people who set it up.</p><p>Sadly the label is yet another example of a thing that is slowly being tossed into history and forgotten as…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>artists can't live on praise alone</p></blockquote><p>But it does help!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>t It's one thing scooting around taunting capitalism in your twenties, but he's 36 now and probably has a family and a mortgage to suppor</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9RJobsmuro" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9RJobsmuro</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>Did you know that writers get a tiny, little bit of performance rights money every time you listen to an iTunes preview?</p></blockquote><p>No I didn't &ndash; wow that's actually kinda cool.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Pay me to tag your shop, it's still antibusiness.</p></blockquote><p>This doesn't add up, no pun intended, much.  Some graffiti artists have used their often incredible talent to brighten up city walls (I'm still gutted by the Kingsland wall being covered over for the world cup), and in some cases have…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re iTunes &ndash; I use it as a first call 'pre-listen' source for new (and old) albums etc.<br />Great for getting an idea about something before hand.</p></blockquote><p>Did you know that writers get a tiny, little bit of performance rights money every time you listen to an iTunes preview?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I still feel he's relevant as being an artist(among many) whose motivations, defy the self serving (feedback/ finance) generalizations presented.</p></blockquote><p>What Islander was talking about was that artists can't live on praise alone, and that sometimes it just gets too hard to continue.</p><p>I don't think there are many artists…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Pay me to tag your shop, it's still antibusiness.</p></blockquote><p>I'm going to say no, it's not. Just a "new" idea in capitalism. There's plenty of corporate organisations that use anti-corporate messages to sell their products. Still selling shit.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The issue is whether or not you are comfortable with Steve Jobs deciding he is king of the world.</p></blockquote><p>If I was king of the world, I'd want it to be more powerful than able to declare "flash is dead", and then have three quarters of the world ignore me.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Same &ndash; so I'll take Simon Grigg's stats over your opinions about album sales trends, if that's all the same.</p></blockquote><p>I wouldn't trust anything that guy says.</p>
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						<p>Tom &ndash; I'm not seeing red in any regard.<br />Just so you know... lol</p><p>Re iTunes &ndash; I use it as a first call 'pre-listen' source for new (and old) albums etc.<br />Great for getting an idea about something before hand.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>doesn't seem that useful in responding to what Islander says. He's wealthy, successful and he gets to travel. It's not like he has to get a job so he can afford to eat.</p></blockquote><p>Certainly not the best example assuming that is in fact his current status, but given the climate…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'll stick to the more informed pundits on here.</p></blockquote><p>Same &ndash; so I'll take Simon Grigg's stats over your opinions about album sales trends, if that's all the same. Like albums myself, just not silly enough to think that makes me the standard consumer propping up the music industry.</p>
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						Someone mentioned 8-track. You can still buy these, some classic car owners like to listen to music while keeping their Mustang or Ferrari fully original.
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						<blockquote><p>Did that half a mil for a Banksy include the building it was on?</p></blockquote><p>No, stand-alone works. He also sold six works for a total of nearly £400,000 in two days at a Sotheby's auction in 2007.</p><p>He duly updated his website with the message ""I Can't Believe You Morons…</p>
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						Did that half a mil for a Banksy include the building it was on?
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						Actually, on reflection, perhaps Lady Gaga is just being self-deprecating in her choice of name. That's not <em>necessarily</em>  insulting to the audience. Could just be truthful labeling, and you were warned.
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						<blockquote><p>Actually, we are told those young kids get it for free &ndash; what gives?<br />I 'spose their mums buy it for them.</p></blockquote><p>Clearly you weren't paying attention, so here it is again &ndash; I'll even use a big red crayon if it makes it easier.</p><blockquote><p>So what's filling the gap?…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>The iTunes shop, as with so, so many things Apple, can kiss my big ass. I've never been there, you can only access it through your iTunes right? And you have to download or do something or other to get it to work eh...</p></blockquote><p>It's spectacularly easy, really. One-time set-up,…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Tom &ndash; you obviously have lost your passion for the tactile nature of the physical side of music &ndash; fair enough</p></blockquote><p>The packaging comes a <em>long</em> way behind the fun and sense of discovery I get from The Big Internet Music Store. Most days of the week I'll grab something…</p>
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						The iTunes shop, as with so, so many things Apple, can kiss my big ass. I've never been there, you can only access it through your iTunes right? And you have to download or do something or other to get it to work eh... meh, too hard. Plus what ratio/size…
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						<blockquote><p>What? Have you even listened to her album? She writes and performs really good pop songs. Songs that make me want to dance and not wear any pants.</p></blockquote><p>I guess that's the purpose. I hear it and find myself distracted by inanimate objects and minor household chores. But if it…</p>
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						As covered earlier, I am definitely  of the Album variety.  I might then buy singles off the album, because they have extra tracks, or in the case of Julia Deans forthcoming album, because I went to see her live, and loved it. When you find a fully crafted album, or…
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						<blockquote><p>You do know what market segment buys almost all the music, right? Here is a clue: A lot of them have a crush on Justin Beiber.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, we are told those young kids get it for free &ndash; what gives?<br />I 'spose their mums buy it for them.<br />Hence that…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But you are from Dundein, they still serve scones on two tier plates down there.</p></blockquote><p>Fnahh Fnahh. I bet they still spin at 78rpm too.<br />It's all bagpipe music down there anyway.<br />;-)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd be happy to see Flash die</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2263337/google-open-sources-vp8-online" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bad luck</a> if it's the video format itself you don't like. (VP8 looks like being great for quality and file-sizes: as good, if not a tad better, than H264.) If you don't like Adobe's proprietry ownership of the world's web-video format (who does)-…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>whether or not you are comfortable with Steve Jobs deciding he is king of the world.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.dump.com/2010/05/18/steve-jobs-vs-bill-gates-pic/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Steve Jobs and Bill Gates</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry but people do still "buy albums".<br />Possibly 18-21 year olds prefer singles</p></blockquote><p>You do know what market segment buys almost all the music, right? Here is a clue: A lot of them have a crush on Justin Beiber.</p><blockquote><p>I still (almost exclusively) buy albums.</p></blockquote><p>But you are from Dundein,…</p>
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						<p>Flash should die &ndash; agreed.<br />It's buggy, greedy, can be used very effectively for viruses and is used far too much for a bunch of websites that tend to be style over functionality.</p><p>'Flash' is actually quite an apt word to describe it.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, I'd be happy to see Flash die.</p></blockquote><p>The technology isn't the issue. The issue is whether or not you are comfortable with Steve Jobs deciding he is king of the world.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No one buys albums anymore.</p></blockquote><p>I still (almost exclusively) buy albums. Even if I buy digitally (which I don't much at all) I prefer to buy a whole album and play it as such. Threw out an old taped copy recently and bought Tricky's Maxinquaye in full digitally. I find…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>No one buys albums anymore.</p></blockquote><p>This has to be the lamest line trotted-out regarding the music business in recent times.</p><p>Sorry but people do still "buy albums".<br />Possibly 18-21 year olds prefer singles ie. they can't afford a whole album or do not have the attention span to listen to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and it looks like they are coming for iTunes, and good job to, ever since Steve Job's decided to go go after Flash his arrogance has creeped me out.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm. If Apple has simply said "if you want to do an exclusive promotion with them, that song doesn't get…</p>
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						<p>Ohhhh I see U2 have pulled out of Glastonbury... </p><p>I suppose that is what happens when you carry the weight of the world on your back...</p>
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						+1 for Lady Gaga.
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						<blockquote><p>Selling us garbage like Lady Gah Gah (sic) does a disservice to music.</p></blockquote><p>What? Have you even listened to her album? She writes and performs really good pop songs. Songs that make me want to dance and not wear any pants.</p><p>And you know her stage name is a play…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Selling us garbage like Lady Gah Gah (sic) does a disservice to music.</p></blockquote><p>I LOVE Lady Gaga, she rocks!!!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But a recent slump in music sales could see The Warehouse back away from CDs.</p></blockquote><p>One of the chief victims of digital downloading has been the 12-18 track album, since people are now just downloading self-selecting top 40 compilations. No one buys albums anymore. In a sense, we are going…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>No, I am not obliged to buy it or listen to it. However, there are enough people out there gullible enough to feel the need to buy into it that the commercial radio stations pump it out continuously like oil into the Gulf. <br />See what I did there? ;-)</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There's nothing wrong with good wallpaper, unless it is pretending to be a painting. Know what I mean?. Selling us garbage like Lady Gah Gah (sic) does a disservice to music.</p></blockquote><p>I don't believe you're obligated to buy it, or listen to radio stations that are playing it, etc.</p>
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						<blockquote> But artists are getting paid for a lot of that wallpaper, which is good. </blockquote>There's nothing wrong with good wallpaper, unless it is pretending to be a painting. Know what I mean?. Selling us garbage like Lady Gah Gah (sic) does a disservice to music.
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They even ran their own label for a while and it was a thoroughly worthwhile exercise in many ways.</p></blockquote><p>didn't know this was a council thang &ndash; thats well cool</p><p>they had some cracking releases, have all those on discogs (you do good work there alonside a few others Mr…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the ubiquity of music in modern life, it no longer has a rarity value and sadly, is becoming more like wallpaper, however good it is.</p></blockquote><p>True, to a point. Music is all around us now &mdash; many of us don't feel the need to buy it to hear it. But…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Then in part two, he looks at what's happened to record shops</p></blockquote><p>Can someone look at what has happened to all the Blacksmiths Shops? My Horse needs new shoes and the buggy needs new rims.<br />Conflating the issue of music sales with book sales is a bit pointless as the…</p>
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						<blockquote>FWIW, citing Banksy &mdash; whose works have sold for as much as half a million $US each &mdash; doesn't seem that useful in responding to what Islander says. He's wealthy, successful and he gets to travel. It's not like he has to get a job so he can afford to…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>antibusiness practices</p></blockquote><p>that might be the problematic phrase &ndash; you're setting up a binary opposition rather than a spectrum of different approaches</p>
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						<blockquote><p>How this became specifically about Arts in ANZ, what I'm drinking or accusations of stupid and unfounded comments, is obviously a point of contention.</p></blockquote><p>The "what are you drinking" crack was unnecessary, but I also don't want to see yet another thread derailed by personal bickering.</p><p>Just trying saying "I…</p>
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						That's definitely not where I was steering things there Russell. I'm keenly interested in art (not specifically musical) produced outside the traditional corporate framework and instances of the framework adjusting its boundaries to accommodate this work (or not as the case may be). How this became specifically about Arts in…
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						Perhaps we could <em>not</em> have this thread turn into another unresolvable philosophical argument about cultural funding.
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						<p>Sure you can Islander, You mentioned Banksy being funded in response to my praising him as the reigning king of guerilla artists. so I assumed you were suggesting his funding to be a motivating factor.</p><p>from the quote I was responding to I assumed the gratification you aspire to is…</p>
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						<p>O, extra comments added to your original post: a LOT of people pursue arts for their own &ndash; but also, generally, others' pleasure. My mother is in her 80s. She is a calligraphist. Her cards are high ranking collectables among her family &amp; friends. *She is on a pension.*<br />I *am…</p>
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						what is stupid about "antibusiness as usual?" Racking (stealing) materials for street art. It's antibusiness.
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						<p>Of course there are! Have been, are &amp; will be (been there, done that, continue to work for nothing if I believe in a matter.)<br />It was the -if not "it's anti-business as usual" -that I think is a stupid comment. An unfounded comment. A comment that doesnt actually link to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Chris, are you drinking something that has erm, effects?</p></blockquote><p>no. I simply don't feel your statement stands up to scrutiny.   There are countless artists, some anonymous, some imprisoned, who's motivation is anything but fortune and feedback. </p><p>And outside the renegade sphere I've met quite a few artists in their 60s…</p>
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						<p>Banksy is privately supported.</p><p>And WTF &ndash; "if you're in it for fame or fortune. If not, *it's anti-business as usual.*"</p><p>Chris, are you drinking something that has erm, effects?</p>
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						<blockquote>But &ndash; if, after trying for quite a long time & as best you know how- there is no adequate recompense for all your time & energy & expenditure except for occaisional feedback (not money or other physically substantial/life-sustaining things) from your audience(realtime or blog-based or whatever), your efforts die away. An artist…</blockquote>
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						<p>What Sam says. And it's the same in books. The future is rosy for independent retailers who are closely linked in with their communities, and for publishers who can work across the different channels (ha ha, did I make that sound easy?).</p><p>The present is incredibly rosy for the Wellington…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>why it's not just the independent stores closing down, but the mega stores too.</p></blockquote><p>For the most part, it's the mega stores that have done worse. Well actually I can't back up that claim, but when Tower Records shut down in the states Amoeba seemed to be doing quite well.…</p>
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						<p>On a related subject, BBC Radio 2 recently played a two-part documentary by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2tWVj6lXw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pete Waterman</a> called "Last Orders at the Spinning Disc: What's Happened to Record Shops?"</p><p>In part one he looks at how record shops used to be, recalling how vastly social they were in the 1960s, the hippy…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder how much impact stuff like the huge increase to Australian gyms for the use of music in workout sessions will have on this figure next year.</p></blockquote><p>With a stronger musicians' union they could all be forced to have live musicians instead...<br />somewhere for the next gymee hendrix to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>They contributed to almost wiping Real Groovy out and as they spread around the country people who buy their music at The Warehouse will realise it's just as cheap at JB Hifi but is actually filed and displayed logically not just tossed randomly onto a table.</p></blockquote><p>That's one of the…</p>
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						Yes indeedy Grace &ndash; and guess what? Not A Single One Of All Our Political Parties has ever replied &ndash; not a squitch. Not diddly-squat.
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				<title>Grace Dalley</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The positive side is that the restructuring of the business side of the audio arts in recent years has made it a lot easier for artists to get paid.</p></blockquote><p>Hallelujah for that!  I'm pleased to hear it.</p><blockquote><p>I have been urging the Scandanavian model (guarenteed minimum wage for artists after…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote>I dont think this kind of state support leads to bludging: what it does do (in the 3 instances I have experienced &ndash; all over 20 years ago-) is give a kind of sigh of relief from financial repression for the immediate term &ndash; and a wonderful kick-in of creative…</blockquote>
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						I have been urging the Scandanavian model (guarenteed minimum wage for artists after you've established a corpus (not just writers) with 'an opportunity' to pay greater tax if you hit the big times (I'd certainly go along with that) or the Irish model &ndash; your income/royalties are tax-free (up to…
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						<blockquote><p>A lot of us will do it for love, up to a point, but we need to eat and pay the rent just like anyone else.</p></blockquote><p>The positive side is that the restructuring of the business side of the audio arts in recent years has made it a lot easier…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>@Samuel Scott<br />"a)you have to get your music our there or you(r) brain will explode..."</p><p>Yep. Applies to most works of art &ndash; which is why any kind of artist can be held over a barrel.</p></blockquote><p>I work in the visual arts, and I can so identify with both these…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I gather Simon has had problems with downloads in Thailand, but I do like Bandcamp as a place to buy music.</p></blockquote><p>Just that one album actually, Buffalo. The rest of the time I have had no issues. Took a day to get it down the pipe.</p><p>eMusic cut me off…</p>
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						JB has had some vinyl re-releases, that maybe you could find elsewhere, but when you browse through and find NO <em>Brotherhood</em>, titles by Bauhaus, DCD and other 4AD staples in 180gsm, and have to put back 6 Radiohead 12" singles because really you didn't need them, then I do find…
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						<p>@Samuel Scott<br />"a)you have to get your music our there or you(r) brain will explode..."</p><p>Yep. Applies to most works of art &ndash; which is why any kind of artist can be held over a barrel.</p><p>But &ndash; if, after trying for quite a long time &amp; as best you know…</p>
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						<p>I like JB for their pricing (although suppliers get screwed down hard &mdash; and sometimes done over with their "promotional" pricing strategies) but I don't linger there.</p><p>My favourite record store is the internet. It's a shame that eMusic hasn't localised here (or most countries), because that's a nice way…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I do know quite a few cynical types working at JB too and quite a few of them know their music/movies.</p></blockquote><p>I think Brent who used to run Smoke CDs and Capital Recordings is a buyer at JB...and to be honest, the vinyl range in Wellington was small but incredibly…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I have not been into a Red Shed to buy anything since JB Hifi opened.</p><p>Yes there is a whole lotta "Digital eating physical" cannibalisation going on, but on a street level JB are eating the Warehouse's (and any other remaining high street mass retailers ) lunch for them.</p></blockquote><p>I…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder why most artists bother</p></blockquote><p>I suppose because in the old days, even though the game was rigged, it was the only game in town.</p><p>Also, I should think most bands get into the game aiming for the stars (if they're thinking that far ahead at all), rather than…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, you bother because;</p><p>a) you have to get your music out there or you brain will explode</p></blockquote><p>Best line ever on a PAS music thread. Sums it all up. Little else anyone can add.</p><br /><br /><p>But I will:</p><blockquote><p>b) if a record company screws you sideways money wise (which I…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>You just have to be very shrewd about what sort of deals you sign. And these days most artists are much more aware of they're getting themselves into, and seek advice accordingly.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, that's a big change from the, er, old days. There was near-total absence of knowledge about publishing…</p>
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