Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: More than a bang on the head https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358333#post358333 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358333#post358333 Long pause
sub clause...

]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:32:53 +1300 william blake https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358331#post358331 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358331#post358331 Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:09:35 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358290#post358290 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358290#post358290 Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:44:23 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358289#post358289 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358289#post358289 Didn't have time to dig these links out earlier:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/jul/19/nfl-star-brain-injuries-destroyed

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/feb/07/super-bowl-50-concussion-casting-large-shadow

I don't have a link, but there's also anecdotal evidence that the parts of the brain that tend to get damaged in hits are, in part, the ones that govern risk-taking behaviour. Very crudely speaking, concussions tend to have…

]]> Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:25:28 +1300 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358279#post358279 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358279#post358279 Thanks for confirming. I went back and watched it just now and I think he must have accidentally misspoken... from around 18:25:
"...and of course, then, two or three minutes later the cameras were on him and he was wandering around in the dead ball area...clearly didn't know where he…

]]> Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:36:22 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358278#post358278 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358278#post358278 Was he actually taken off the field a second time, or was Rob Allen mistaken with his comment on the show?

No, he played on. Either you misunderstood Rob – I thought he said Lonergan returned after a few minutes – or he misspoke.

]]> Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:17:21 +1300 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358273#post358273 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358273#post358273 On the Dean Lonergan thing of 1991....

Rob Allen (brother of the mercurial All Black Nicky Allen, who suffered a fatal on-field concussion after a series of knocks over several years)

I wasn't following League in 1991 (I still don't), but I notice that Rob Allen commented on Media Take…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 23:55:16 +1300 Tom Semmens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358268#post358268 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358268#post358268 And Richie McCaw is a commercial pilot...

Who already is struggling to tell the difference between our flag and Australias.

Do I want to come up for a spin Richie? Yeah.... Nah.

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:57:59 +1300 81stcolumn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358267#post358267 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358267#post358267 i) I wish they would leave Doug alone he's a decent bloke doing a good thing.

ii) My principle point of concern is that many of those involved in the decision making process around concussion have no direct experience of the modern game as it is played at school and…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:52:22 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358265#post358265 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358265#post358265 You’d think that ACC would be strongly advocating better concussion management for younger players….imagine if the dementia in later life can be proven to have been caused by concussion…

The evidence is starting to mount up.

I had three concussions before the age of 18, when I stopped playing rugby.…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:49:09 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358262#post358262 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358262#post358262 Boxing also has the 'standing eight-count', where a boxer who has taken a heavy hit can take eight seconds to shake it off before going back for more

Yes and it's almost always much more than 8 seconds, because that's just the time between the ref having made the other…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:41:28 +1300 Bruce Thorpe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358260#post358260 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358260#post358260 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:38:09 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358252#post358252 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358252#post358252 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:17:56 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358251#post358251 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358251#post358251 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:12:35 +1300 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358242#post358242 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358242#post358242 As long as the Left remembers to roll out policy plans in an order
sorted for ease and whizz.

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:22:49 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358236#post358236 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358236#post358236 Loaded for bear!
the right to bear arms.
..and lo, trouble’s a bruin for the Right, indeedy!
:- )

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:38:50 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358235#post358235 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358235#post358235 Excellent program Russell, and brings up the iconic image of two top class rugby players spreadeagled on the pitch after clashing heads.

I failed to find the image on the google, but found this from one of the players.

My partner, sitting here in his wheelchair with his high spinal…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:16:57 +1300 william blake https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358233#post358233 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358233#post358233 Though I have to say using ‘bear-knuckles’ sounds pretty dangerous!

Constitutionally guaranteed in USA; the right to bear arms.

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:08:16 +1300 Shane Le Brun https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358228#post358228 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358228#post358228 This reminds me of the debate on "Mild" TBI soldiers were diagnosed with, did some googling, and its not just for sports folk.

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/news_articles/CTE_found_in_veterans.htm

Being too close to explosions, such as designated door breacher, or just generally being danger close to explosions on multiple occasions will lead to the same…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:48:32 +1300 Asinius https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358223#post358223 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358223#post358223 What's to stop rugby players wearing body armour and helmets like gridiron players, hockey players ...

One of the issues in American football is that helmets have given players a false sense of security and they're more likely to lead with their heads. Some teams are starting to experiment with…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:17:22 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358222#post358222 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358222#post358222 Though I have to say using 'bear-knuckles' sounds pretty dangerous!

Well, not if you're the bear....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMcg6535xE

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:54:40 +1300 Ianmac https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358221#post358221 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358221#post358221 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:43:13 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358220#post358220 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358220#post358220 I can’t remember where I first heard this,
QI was where I first heard it.
see: https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/6/4
When wearing boxing gloves, it is much easier to kill your opponent. In bear-knuckle boxing, people would always aim for the chest, stomach and arms, because the chin was too dangerous. The chances…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 09:22:24 +1300 Maz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358219#post358219 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358219#post358219 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:34:17 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358218#post358218 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358218#post358218 I can't remember where I first heard this, but apparently boxing has caused more brain injuries since the introduction of padded gloves, because before then, your average pugilist could only land a small number of blows to the head without shredding his knuckles and wrecking his wrist.

Boxing also has…

]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 08:06:59 +1300 Mr Mark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358217#post358217 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358217#post358217 The Beautiful Game ) both competitively and socially through my 20s and 30s and I gotta say I felt borderline -concussion more than a few times after leaping to head a ball that'd been blasted toward me with a good deal of power (always worst when… ]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2016 01:58:29 +1300 James Littlewood* https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358216#post358216 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358216#post358216 I can't remember where I first heard this, but apparently boxing has caused more brain injuries since the introduction of padded gloves, because before then, your average pugilist could only land a small number of blows to the head without shredding his knuckles and wrecking his wrist.

What's to stop…

]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2016 22:47:05 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358211#post358211 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358211#post358211 Concussion is one (terrible) consequence of a sporting life, but check in with any elite athlete and middle age is a mess of deteriorating joints and ongoing pain.

Yes, but literally losing your ability to think straight and control yourself is in a different league.

]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:19:33 +1300 Mark Graham https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358190#post358190 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358190#post358190 Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:50:10 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358189#post358189 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358189#post358189 He got blamed by the community cause he was trying to help the victim that died?

Yes. I was shocked when I heard that.

]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:33:55 +1300 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358188#post358188 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358188#post358188 concussion researcher Doug King
He got blamed by the community cause he was trying to help the victim that died?
I mean FUCK!
Are there pockets of sport lovers out there who are totally deranged?
Or do I just have to put his experience down to an evolutionary fail going…

]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:30:01 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358187#post358187 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-more-than-a-bang-on-the-head/?p=358187#post358187 Discussion from blog post.

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