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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Probably as good a time and place as any to paste <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/pope-forgives-molested-children,101/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a><br /> onion link.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:33:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						There's a text link just above the screenshot
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:50:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Map does not respond with detail...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:45:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						PS: NZ features in that map more than Australia does
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:40:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Speaking of penance, here's a <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/1620638/infographic-the-catholic-churchs-international-sex-abuse-coverup" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">world map</a> of the Catholic paedo-priest cover-up.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:24:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when I start listening to question time, I will be beyond help</p></blockquote><p>I consider it (fortunately infrequent) penance</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:02:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just as we are seeing in the House at the moment with the 2nd reading of the Waikato- Tainui Raupatu Claims(Waikato River) Settlement Bill.</p></blockquote><p>The Tuhoe Urewera claim settlement should be interesting.  Secession is always a juicy topic for discussion.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:34:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>With due respect to those who might do this for self-betterment or as part of their job, when I start listening to question time, I will be beyond help.</p></blockquote><p>I'd agree (being an avid watcher) that watching PTV can at times test ones patience, because when it's bad ,it's very…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:26:34 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Listening to Question Time should help you with that</p></blockquote><p>With due respect to those who might do this for self-betterment or as part of their job, when I start listening to question time, I will be beyond help.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:47:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>my sense of decorum is preventing me</p></blockquote><p>Listening to Question Time should help you with that</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:45:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Being ugly and useful does not prevent something having heritage values.</p><p>I so want to drop a former politician in this conversation,</p></blockquote><p>I so want to drop a politician (heritage value or not) into the long drop.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:25:41 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Being ugly and useful does not prevent something having heritage values.</p></blockquote><p>I so want to drop a former politician in this conversation, but my sense of decorum is preventing me.  Carry on.</p><p>700.  Meh.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:06:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But to call them heritage seems a real stretch?</p></blockquote><p>I think we need to remember that the humble long drop loo is as much, if not more, part of our NZ heritage than any other building around the country. Being ugly and useful does not prevent something having heritage values.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:53:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But to call them heritage seems a real stretch?</p></blockquote><p>According to heritage experts like the Historic Places Trust, they are. Working class heritage perhaps, but we haven't preserved much of that or anything else in this city.</p><p>If there's a proper planning process that decides to pull them down, I'm…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:02:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>When it's all over and the punters return to their respective countries I can imagine the conversations down the pub...<br />"clean green New Zealand my arse, they stuck us on a bleedin' wharf and sold us crappy sweet beer fer three quid a can. Not to mention all those wankers…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:39:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						The "public space as well as a cruise ship terminal" vibe really %*&s me off though...
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Yeesh Sacha, I guess you're against it then...  =)</p><p>Totally agree about the cruise ship barrier to the view (the transparent ghost ship is hilarious).  But I'm not really against the overall idea here &ndash; even the pulling down of the sheds, an architectural form that I quite like because…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:13:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Unless they can make them conveniently transparent as in the artist's impression.</p></blockquote><p>Arrrrgh, those not be transparent, they be <em>ghost! ships!</em>    With the legion demon crew they call the CitRats, captained by The Foul Beast that goes only by the name Rodney, and a cargo of <em>lost! souls!</em></p><p>They say…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:11:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Did you spot that the harbour views they're proclaiming will actually be blocked by two parked cruise ships? Unless they can make them conveniently transparent as in <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/3600769/Aucklands-Rugby-World-Cup-party-zone-revealed" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the artist's impression</a>.</p><p>To say nothing of hurriedly knocking down more heritage buildings before integrated masterplanning is completed &ndash; because that respected urban…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:31:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.arc.govt.nz/council/news-and-events/regionwide-news/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.arc.govt.nz/council/news-and-events/regionwide-news/</a></p><p>Seems like a good-enough result for me.  Necessary upgrade work gets done for any eventual permanent space, but Central Govt pays for their fancy tent.<br />The focus on this cruise ship terminal as a definite eventual outcome kinda disappoints though</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:03:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can we talk about the fact that the Penguins won last year yet?</p></blockquote><p>Shush. Go back to your internet wireless radio thingy. How 1950s of you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:34:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						Damn right they did. Go Pens.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had to have stern words with Giovanni last season. I download the game video, which takes a couple of days by the time I get to watch it.</p></blockquote><p>Can we talk about the fact that the Penguins won last year yet?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:12:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was under the impression there was a more or less routine stand-down period, but I am happy to be corrected.</p></blockquote><p>I think the stand down is a couple of weeks. It gets longer if you receive a redundancy payment.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:05:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I protest! There are no spoilers in any of my posts for any of the four games played tonight!</p></blockquote><p>Just laying down firm ground rules. I had to have stern words with Giovanni last season. I download the game video, which takes a couple of days by the time I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:05:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why would you have to wait 6 months? Immigration reasons? It's not the routine stand-down.</p></blockquote><p>I was under the impression there was a more or less routine stand-down period, but I am happy to be corrected.</p><p>My reason for posting the life insurance stuff was just to point out that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:09:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>Why would you have to wait 6 months? Immigration reasons? It's not the routine stand-down. Also, you might be eligible for ACC depending on the cause of your incapacitation?</p><p>EI is largely for those who have been made redundant, or whose fixed-term contract has ended, as opposed to those who…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:44:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The maximum EI contribution paid by employees now is just over <strong>$730</strong> per year.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>So, that'll be almost <strong>$1000</strong> a year out of my paycheque, then.</p></blockquote><p>?</p><p>Also, for a bit of perspective, I pay around $1700-1800 p/a for a life insurance policy that pays out not only if I've…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:34:53 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>This is, um, timely:</p><blockquote><p>Canada's budget watchdog says employment insurance premiums are going up, and by a lot.</p><p>The parliamentary budget office estimates that EI premiums paid by workers and employers will need to rise by the maximum allowable limit of 15 cents per $100 of insurable earnings to return…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:40:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was expressing my surprise at the topic being raised at all! I agree that nothing has been spoiled.</p></blockquote><p>Canadian EI was raised and, oddly enough, PAS-ers such as you and Kyle are the only NZ-based hockey fans I've come across.  I takes my chances to talk hockey!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:00:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I was expressing my surprise at the topic being raised at all! I agree that nothing has been spoiled.
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						I protest! There are no spoilers in any of my posts for any of the four games played tonight!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:51:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I assume you've yet to see it and are hiding from the results?</p></blockquote><p>I only finished listening to the game myself. I really would not expect to have the result of a freaking NHL playoffs game spoiled in a Hard News thread! Hadyn's blog, I'd understand...</p>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>I assume you've yet to see it and are hiding from the results?  If so, will indeed zip it.  No comment on that game 1, though I'll be supporting the Sens.  For some reason I loathe Crosby. </p><p>Looking forward to soccer scores when my Bs play Buffalo (even though I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:31:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Kyle &ndash; I don't know.  My info comes from reading the Canadian press when I lived there and my Canadian boyfriend.</p><p>(Meanwhile, really exciting start to the playoffs!)</p>
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						<p>With employment insurance, what happens with it if you retire/die etc? Does it only come back to you if you get made unemployed, or can you or your estate retrieve it in other ways?</p><p>Sounds like it would make a good voluntary scheme, which the government might support in the…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've no idea why NZTA would want to play this down, other than some fear that Mr Steven 'holiday highway or hell' Joyce will cancel future cycling projects.</p><p>    Which is odd given that he's opening it, but this government is stranger than most.</p><p>The minister behaved himself very well in…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						Not saying that the Canadian EI model is one we should move to, but its not the horrible awful capitalist nightmare of kicking people out in the streets that some people seem to be suggesting.  You pay into EI while you work, and if/when you lose your job, you get…
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						<p>Just diverting back to Party Central a moment...</p><p>Memo to Mike Lee, who I heard on b this morning, and anyone else involved in RWC 2011: Please avoid saying that you'll be</p><blockquote><p>down at Queen's Wharf in 2011 partying like it's 1999.</p></blockquote><p>1999 + Rugby World Cup + NZ +…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I've no idea why NZTA would want to play this down, other than some fear that Mr Steven 'holiday highway or hell' Joyce will cancel future cycling projects.</p><p>Which is odd given that he's opening it, but this government is stranger than most.</p></blockquote><p>The minister behaved himself very well in…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Hey Andin! Give me a recent Buddhist saying! Or even one of a modest vintage. I tire of these old Buddhist / Sufi / Daoist sayings.</p></blockquote><p>Spikehegan, I can help you here &ndash; my sister runs one of humanitarian Jane Goodall's schools, and some of the students &ndash; none of…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>what happens when the dole runs out?</p></blockquote><p>I should have been a bit more nuanced. In Belgium where I lived, your dole was a (from memory) 60% of your wage for about 12 months. Then it dropped to the minimum dole (paid to people who have never worked and the…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Hey Andin! Give me a recent Buddhist saying! Or even one of a modest vintage. I tire of these old Buddhist / Sufi / Daoist sayings.</p></blockquote><p>Paula Bennett is not a sacred cow.</p>
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						<p><strong>The second stage of the global capitalist crisis</strong></p><p>By Nick Beams<br />12 April 2010</p><p>__ We can see more clearly the meaning of the fiscal crisis of the state. All government spending on social services, health, education etc. is, in the final analysis, a deduction from the surplus value available…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>10:30am, at Nixon Park in Kingsland.</p><p>why is it impossible to find any official info about this event on the web? or am i using the Goooooooooooogle all wrongly?</p></blockquote><p>For the simple reason that there isn't any official information. </p><p>I've no idea why NZTA would want to play this down,…</p>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>10:30am, at Nixon Park in Kingsland.</p></blockquote><p>why is it impossible to find any official info about this event on the web? or am i using the Goooooooooooogle all wrongly?</p>
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						<p>See, it's the P <br /></holmes></p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>From the document Sacha linked to:</p><blockquote><p>Growing numbers of people were coming on to SB and IB with a mental illness. The increase is consistent with trends in other developed countries. Comparisons of the prevalence of mental illnesses over time are difficult to make but rates may have been rising.…</p></blockquote>
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						For the policy wonks among us, MSD did <a href="http://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/publications-resources/research/sbib-growth/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some research in 2005</a> about Sickness Benefit and Invalid Benefit dynamics.  A particular motivation for the research was to check transfers from other benefits, as there was some public contention at the time that unemployment numbers were being made to look better.…
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				<title>SpikeHegan</title>
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						Hey Andin! Give me a recent Buddhist saying! Or even one of a modest vintage. I tire of these old Buddhist / Sufi / Daoist sayings.
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						<blockquote>Whoa, people. Stop. Take three steps back and get some scope on this.Whoa, people. Stop. Take three steps back and get some scope on this.</blockquote> What, same National Party, same Act Party, same United Future and token Maori Party for good measure? Same ol', same ol'. No surprises.More of the…
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						<p>Whoa, people. Stop. Take three steps back and get some scope on this.<br />What have we got splurging out of the Cabinet caucus right now? Let me count the ways:<br />Bashing beneficiaries. Ho hum. Might as well. Doesn't take much energy and always gets a bit of noise going.<br />Cutting…</p>
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				<title>Paul Robeson</title>
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						<p>G'day Mediaphiles!</p><p>Is angry Russel back ready to smite the evil f@# who somehow seem to be running our country once more?</p><p>Mining national parks, cutting back national radio, privatising prisons, probably welfare, cutting work rights, raising GST to cut top tax rates, asailing ACC and biggest crime of all…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a situation that politicians (who are paid for, by us all, an exorbitant salary) have created.</p></blockquote><p>That's what I think is the one thing entirely that I despise about this Government. No empathy. <br />Sue, if you ever make it to Auckland, I'll have you over for a drink or 2.…</p>
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						<p>Hi Sue,</p><p>You are very brave to expose yourself like that.</p><p>This beneficiary bashing makes me so sad and angry.  There is no rational basis to it and I have experienced the "dream" of DPB and unemployment benefit up close and personal myself.  Well, those that voted for National should…</p>
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						<p>Sue &ndash; only from family &amp; friends' experience do I know what you are dealing with &ndash; a situation that politicians (who are paid for, by us all, an exorbitant salary) have created.</p><p>Not everyone <em>can</em> work  -as you so movingly tell; and when you are ill, longterm, life gets very…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>There's definitely a story there. I do sometime feel that there are a lot of sick people who need to harden up a bit.</p></blockquote><p>yes becuase being a sickness or invalids beneficiary is sooo much fun. Trust me it is not a ticket to great money, it is not an…</p>
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						<blockquote> ...and there is nothing new under the sun-</blockquote> Yes there is for us. Did you not get my email Islander?
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						Surprised by Doug Graham's comments? Aue, no &ndash; we know now to expect so little from yesteryear's politicians. Or sportspeople. Especially when the brief is essentially being a front for moneymaking enterprises-
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Whatever happened to just putting the elderly out on the ice</p></blockquote><p>As long as it's cubed, and in a tall glass smothered in alcohol, no problem!</p><blockquote><p>"...go with the floe..."</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, well, some don't have the strength of mind<br />Others mistake piety for strength.<br />Old Buddhist saying.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Is anyone else as surprised as I am at Doug Graham's loud proclamations of innocence?</p><blockquote><p>"The prospectus was prepared by management, commented on by the auditors and solicitors and then accepted by the Companies Office. The document was sent to the trustee. None of these advised the board of any…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>next up from Frau Paula: Investigating moving our undeserving poor to Scott Base, where winter will impartially deal with them as God intended.</p></blockquote><p>At approx $1000 a day to keep someone at Scott Base &ndash; that'll save em heaps!<br />Whatever happened to just putting the elderly out on the ice,…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sickness beneficiaries up 26,000 in the ten years to Dec 09. Invalids up 33,000. Unemployment down 95,000</p></blockquote><p>A relative of mine suffering from severe schizophrenia was on the dole for years during the 90s, faithfully attending workshops on CV writing and applying for jobs although she was totally unemployable. In…</p>
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						<p>...and there is nothing new under the sun-</p><p>I'd donate &ndash; to a worthy cause &ndash; quite a bit to see Paula B et al swim in something unsavoury &ndash; we have suitable settling ponds just outside HK-</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>PS. The photo from the article I linked reminded me of the UK Tories' infamous <a href="http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Politics/Pix/pictures/2001/03/10/pub_notworking.gif" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">1979 campaign poster</a>.</p><p>Next stop: It's The Economy, Stupid!</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>I can't put my finger on why, but the latest handwringing over beneficiaries reminds me of <a href="http://devonhistorysociety.blogspot.com/2009/11/north-devon-savages.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>.</p><p>But perhaps I just want to see Paula Bennett tipped into horse pond.</p>
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						I suspect an unintended side effect of the proposed welfare changes is that many of those currently in work are probably going to be more bolshie about their job security. How bolshie exactly? If worst came to worst, possibly a replay of the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10566554" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Synovate episode</a>, not unlike what's happened in France.…
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>What happens when your dole runs out?</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Then you get starve, as befits the undeserving poor.</p></blockquote><p>I haven't lived in Canada for 21 years so I'm not sure what's in place now, but back then you went on UIC benefits if you were unemployed, and when it ran out (which…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Christopher &mdash; I tried to email you, but perhaps had the wrong address. When and where is the NW motorway cycleway opening tomorrow? I'd like to get along!</p></blockquote><p>Have emailed you the opening details, but it is on tomorrow (Thursday 15th) at 10.30am, at Nixon Park, just off Central Rd,…</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When and where is the NW motorway cycleway opening tomorrow? I'd like to get along!</p></blockquote><p>10:30am, at Nixon Park in Kingsland.</p><p>(I have the morning off work &ndash; see you there?)</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What ever happened to social security?</p></blockquote><p>The government wants to wash its hands of it.</p><p>This isn't just a cost-saving effort, or another play to give windfall tax cuts to the rich by fucking over the poor.  This is an attempt by the government to abdicate responsibility for a core…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>What bothers me about these EI schemes is they essentially seem to be like most insurance schemes &ndash;  sunny day umbrellas for the anxious middle class.</p><p>What ever happened to social security?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Christopher &mdash; I tried to email you, but perhaps had the wrong address. When and where is the NW motorway cycleway opening tomorrow? I'd like to get along!
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				<title>Robbie Siataga</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What happens when your dole runs out?</p></blockquote><p>...you turn to crime cos prison is not a deterrent compared to living rough on the streets.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What happens when your dole runs out?</p></blockquote><p>Then you get starve, as befits the undeserving poor.</p><p>next up from Frau Paula: Investigating moving our undeserving poor to Scott Base, where winter will impartially deal with them as God intended.</p>
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				<title>Duncan McKenzie</title>
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						Can someone help me here?  We have a securities commission, a commerce commission, a serious fraud office, all of which have interlocking responsibilities and none of which have up until now have distinguished themselves with much action against the finance rogues.  Two of them are or have been headed up…
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p>Being Canadian, and having spent time there working, I contributed to EI, but woe betide anyone claiming; I daren't risk the bureaucracy, or the thought that all one would get would be a pittance &ndash; and it was a pittance. Luckily I survived by wits.</p><p>I echo Uroskin &ndash; EI…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the longer you have contributed to your schemes, the longer your dole lasts, plus the dole and your pension is a percentage of your last wage, not a flat pay out as in NZ</p></blockquote><p>What happens when your dole runs out?</p><p>It sounds like a scheme that is pretty harsh…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Regards unemployment insurance, it's not jujst Canada that should be considered.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, Charles Waldegrave made the same point this morning.</p><blockquote><p>Fairer, perhaps. Expensive, certainly.</p></blockquote><p>Interesting.</p><p>That was a dirty little secret of US welfare reform. In most of the places regarded as success stories, the government was paying for childcare…</p>
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				<title>uroskin</title>
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						Regards unemployment insurance, it's not jujst Canada that should be considered. Most Western European countries have "social insurance" schemes with contributions from your wage, your employer and the state (a bit like KiwiSaver if it was an insurance scheme). Your national insurance contributions are basically a tax outside your income…
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				<title>Robbie Siataga</title>
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						<blockquote><p>One day we will realise that that those with the real expertise and wisdom are the consumers and those who live with the consequences of poor policy every day.</p></blockquote><p>I once had a boss who reckoned we should build more malls so poor people have more places to go and…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Announcing the release of Forbes-Coates v2.0 &ndash; now there's no guilt in lifting sugar bags as long as they're biodegradable!
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>One day we will realise that that those with the real expertise and wisdom are the consumers and those who live with the consequences of poor policy every day. <br />Who knows more about how the welfare system doesn't work, and therefore could be improved, than those who daily face the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Last year, New Zealand's population grew by 55,00 &mdash; only slightly less than the entire growth of the sickness and invalids' benefits rolls in the past decade. And the working-age population is getting older on average every year as the baby boomers move through.</p><p>There is an obvious challenge here,…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>I don't suppose there might be contributing<br />factors in modern society, that might be<br />making people sicker...<br />Stress, disconnection, alienation, depression, fear...</p><p>Society tends to treat the symptoms not the causes, and then shoots the messenger as well...</p>
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				<title>Daniel Wilton</title>
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						<p>Maybe it is a simple case of don't look behind the curtain.</p><p>Demonise the beneficiaries, make a case for them being the bludgers and then every person who has effectively got poorer since the last election will look to blame the helpless instead of those who going to get rich…</p>
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				<title>Rickai</title>
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						Apologies &ndash; Physically, obviously.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I do sometime feel that there are a lot of sick people who need to harden up a bit.</p></blockquote><p>That's brilliant! So insightful! Wait here while I get John Kirwan!</p><p>To stay on the Invalid's Benefit when you're not sick requires the connivance of <em>two</em> doctors, one of whom is…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						The 2025 taskforce report blithely assumes it's all bludgers. Because they believe in serious and thoughtful research.
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Oh, <a href="http://www.nursingtimes.net/public-health-in-a-recession/1931623.article" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">public health deteriorates in recessions</a>.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There's definitely a story there.</p></blockquote><p>But it might be one of an ageing population and the de-institutionalisation of the most needy.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Is it possible that formerly the criteria for sickness and invalid benefits were too stringent, and that we have finally arrived at a more humane level? I mean, feeling that rising numbers are a bad thing rests on the assumption that the previous level was the correct one. Perhaps we…
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						<p>"I do sometime feel that there are a lot of sick people who need to harden up a bit." <br />Thankyou Dr Rickai. You analysis of those terrible bludging sick people and those malingering invalids is so helpful. Your next step will be to tip them out on the street and…</p>
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						<p>Sickness beneficiaries up 26,000 in the ten years to Dec 09.  Invalids up 33,000.  Unemployment down 95,000.  Sickness benficiaries increased 20% in 09 during the recession.</p><p><a href="http://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/publications-resources/statistics/benefit/2009-national-benefit-factsheets.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/publications-resources/statistics/benefit/2009-national-benefit-factsheets.html</a></p><p>There's definitely a story there.  I do sometime feel that there are a lot of sick people who need to harden up a…</p>
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