Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Meth houses and stigma

Joe Wylie

Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:05:32 +1300

from yesterday’s Waikato Times

The accommodation industry he said is "blinded to who methamphetamine users are".

"One motelier rejected my approach saying, 'we don't allow those types of people to stay in their premises'," he said.

"My question is, describe a meth user?

"Statistics show they are business people in…

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:58:02 +1300

Oblivious to the facts the Health Dept put out Stuff seems to be continuing the support for decontaminating houses after meth use (rather than manufacture) from yesterday’s Waikato Times (web) ...or at least blurring the difference – this was allegedly a ‘Business’ article.

Rosemary McDonald

Thu, 03 Nov 2016 17:25:35 +1300

Jeez is the bureaucracy crawling with fuckwits like this?

Yes.

andin

Thu, 03 Nov 2016 16:30:28 +1300

an opinion piece ??????
Arse covering of the highest order you mean!
Jeez is the bureaucracy crawling with fuckwits like this?
I just ask because that has the most appalling piece of drivel I have had to give up reading...

Alfie

Thu, 03 Nov 2016 09:21:49 +1300

I expect some resignations next week. Not the right ones, but some.

Or maybe not. The other option is to double down, act indignant and claim you did nothing wrong. Stuff has an opinion piece by Paul Commons, COO of Housing New Zealand.

Shulgin

Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:05:32 +1300

if one turns all this shit over with a pitch fork, as one should...there are folks who, with all due respect, will start targeting state houses to lick the walls to get a contact high...it just as well many of them are empty...or it would be home invasion...how much wall…

tussock

Sun, 30 Oct 2016 13:09:39 +1300

Rosemary: when the police talk about changing people's habits, they mean coercively, that police will decide who you get to talk to and where you get to be.

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But it's nice to see this particular brand of bullshit might actually end. Though really, unless there's a political acceptance of…

Rosemary McDonald

Sat, 29 Oct 2016 09:04:55 +1300

This in the Herald this morning.

Not the reactionary "run them out of town" narrative you'd expect.

Expressions of grief at how P has blighted the paradise that is the Far North...and some sound ideas on how to turn things around.

"We're not going to arrest our way out of this,"…

James Littlewood*

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 23:26:47 +1300

Well, good fucking job.

Yup. Sup? Schmuck.

And yet, I missed something. This personage who's been profiteering by misrepresenting misreported standards whilst also sitting in some position of influence over said standards: may we know its name?

Sacha

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 19:42:45 +1300

I expect some resignations next week. Not the right ones, but some.

Russell Brown

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:53:59 +1300

Benedict Collins did a great RNZ Checkpoint interview with Housing NZ, who seem to be blaming everyone other than themselves.

That was so well put together and he nailed that last interview. Bravo.

Sacha

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:25:48 +1300

Benedict Collins did a great RNZ Checkpoint interview with Housing NZ, who seem to be blaming everyone other than themselves.

Sacha

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:23:12 +1300

Exactly the position Housing NZ double-down on in their OIA response via fyi.org.nz

I also noticed their terminological evasiveness about 'eviction' vs 'termination' of tenancies, plus the very steep rise in spend over the last 3 years.

Thomas Lumley

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:04:55 +1300

There's one big problem left unaddressed. I haven't seen any mention of baseline testing, so it seems that presence of meth (over the new threshold) will still be taken as evidence that the current tenant is responsible.

James Green

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:23:49 +1300

a usual therapeutic dose of 5mg daily

Actually it's much higher than that. 5mg is the starting dose, titrated upwards each week until optimal response is observed (usually 20-25mg/day). Methamphetamine isn't recommended for use in under 12s, but dexamphetamine doses for a 3 year old start at 2.5mg.

Ross Bell

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:09:14 +1300

Min health should have made any warnings very public, not just for HNZ’s sake but to also help landlords, tenants etc be informed. Its silence was deafening.

Danyl Mclauchlan

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 12:00:07 +1300

The ministry claimed yesterday that it had repeatedly warned Housing New Zealand it was misusing its 2010 lab guidelines to evict tenants. And yet when I approached the ministry with questions about this selfsame misapprehension of its advice, the response was to insist that the guidelines were ”self-explanatory” and no…

Ross Bell

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:39:28 +1300

That person you mention in the last parace sits on the Standards NZ meth review committee. Don't hold your breath.

David Herkt

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:13:48 +1300

I echo your argument and your final paragraph, Russell. it is a subject that has driven me insane for years since I first saw a private testing agency at an HIV/AIDS and illicit drug conference in Melbourne in the early 1980s.

It has always been a contentious subject with very…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:02:53 +1300

one of the most prominent meth-testing entrepreneurs

Is he out of jail yet?

Christopher Dempsey

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:02:26 +1300

In the HNZ blocks where I live, there were three and possibly five, apartments that were 'contaminated'. By that, meth was smoked in the apartments. HNZ kicked the tenants out (one of them has returned to the streets, I see him around from time to time, and I think he's…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:02:18 +1300

2ug / 100 cm2

To put this into context, methamphetamine is a licensed and prescribed pharmaceutical with a usual therapeutic dose of 5mg daily.

To reach this level by ingesting domestic "contamination" you'd have to eat:
2500 x 100cm2 of wall = 25m2

=> basically all the walls in an…

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:32:34 +1300

Meanwhile, Housing New Zealand, how are you getting along at making your rental stock warm, dry and inhospitable to black mould and other things that have proven negative health outcomes for your tenants?

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Fri, 28 Oct 2016 10:32:34 +1300

Discussion from blog post.