Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Media7 will soon be Media3

Lilith __

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:32:23 +1200

but didn’t see any Sky

Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Network outage? ;-)

I once saw an amazing sky on a cloudy day driving from Ohau to Tekapo, approaching Lake Pukaki from the South — the underside of the clouds over Pukaki were a rich turquoise from the reflected light.…

Geoff Lealand

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:27:52 +1200

Lilith; I drove through the McKenzie Basin today (en route from Christchurch to Wanaka, to add cinemas to http://cinemasofnz.info) but didn't see any Sky. In fact, I saw little sky due to low and dense fog much of the way--except for one magic moment near Mt. Hutt, when the murk…

Lilith __

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:03:23 +1200

where do I get this Free Sky access then?

MacKenzie Basin ;-)

Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkJPKK2mKs

Rob Stowell

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:21:58 +1200

So where do I get this Free Sky access then?
Prime?!

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:15:23 +1200

“We [Sky] are investing without the need for
any sort of fee to be charged.”
So where do I get this Free Sky access then?

Rob Stowell

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:37:57 +1200

all online all the time with no geoblocking and no licencing to other channels
If it’s content that’s generated by the channel, they can. But for, eg, TV3, that’s pretty much only news and current affairs. anything else- licencing hell :)
(Eg NZ on Air would probably not agree- kills…

Kumara Republic

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:17:15 +1200

There may be hope yet for Backbenchers. But seriously folks, is sport the only local content that SKY provides?

Levy to fund public TV a no-go

__However, Broadcasting Minister Craig Foss said the Government would not consider a levy.

"The Government is satisfied with the current contestable funding model through…

Islander

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:28:09 +1200

An uncomfortable subject for many men?

As a longterm but longago & sexually ambiguous barfly in
West Coast pubs, I found most males were happy to boast of – but
not really share- their sexual experiences with their mates in a
convivial atmosphere. They talked lovingly & knowledgably
about vehicles and guns…

Ben Austin

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:41:52 +1200

Chris,

I haven’t really had any reason to check any NZ channels barring TVNZ for some years, outside of the quakes, but I’ve just checked TV3 and I seem to be able to view 3News in London, without any special measures. So that seems to tally with your experience.

I…

Chris Waugh

Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:03:33 +1200

I can’t say I’ve had any cause to try in TV3’s case for some years but I guess I do now

Dunno how it is for you, but TV3 is the only NZ tv channel I can actually watch here. Can't figure out why, but it seems to be a…

Ben Austin

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:08:07 +1200

Great to hear you have managed to keep the show running on TV3. Now lets hope the geoblocking is not turned on!

I can't say I've had any cause to try in TV3's case for some years but I guess I do now

Kumara Republic

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:40:02 +1200

Save TVNZ7 pins last hopes on Mai Chen.

Bart Janssen

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:03:22 +1200

Yes, I was wondering that too. An uncomfortable subject for many men?

I don't think it's necessarily uncomfortable. It's just that with no habit of ever talking about such things there is no starting point. Kind of a self perpetuating limitation.

Part of it has to be an inherent prudishness…

Lilith __

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:54:02 +1200

I tend to think that it’s because men in NZ have no culture of talking about sex and sexuality

Yes, I was wondering that too. An uncomfortable subject for many men?

Bart Janssen

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:51:38 +1200

it might be in a sense more permissable for straight cis women to blog about sex and sexuality than it is for straight cis men to blog about sex and sexuality

Or maybe 'cos when men do it it's called bragging?

Actually I tend to think that it's because men…

Russell Brown

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:29:28 +1200

whatever privilege goggles (sorry, Russell, know you hate the term but there’s a point coming up) you bring to the table and consciously widen your frame of reference.

I really, really don't hate the term or the concept. But I am sometimes troubled by the way some people use both…

Russell Brown

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:24:37 +1200

Even so, sitting in my armchair and speculating (that’s code for saying that I have done no research whatsoever), it does seem to me to be plausible to suggest that it might be in a sense more permissable for straight cis women to blog about sex and sexuality than it…

Deborah

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:56:28 +1200

I would have thought that we might have changed a little in the last 28 years. And even going back 28 years, it's not clear that it was *writing* about sex that led to the assault.

Even so, sitting in my armchair and speculating (that's code for saying that I…

Danielle

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:42:00 +1200

You now have me thinking of (in)appropriate media-metaphors. "My vagina will be the Charo on the Love Boat of Media3 guest appearances!"

Ross Mason

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:01:47 +1200

Where are all the straight cis male sex bloggers, hm?

I suspect petrified of writing about it as they would likely be firebombed or tied to lamp posts if they did. Given what happens to "perverts" in this country.

Russell Brown

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:35:42 +1200

If you’re tempted to invite Witi Ihimaera to a panel on Maori writers for the squillionth time, how about Patricia Grace instead?

You've got it. And that's the one we can work on.

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:36:42 +1200

Russell knows full well, there are no circumstances under which I will do a Guest Vagina spot.

Your vagina will always be a headliner to me. Sort of. Well, not really. Time to derail this train of thought...

Emma Hart

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:26:20 +1200

media expertise or glamour

Emma is the one with both of those, right?

I just snorted so bad. I live in my sheepskin booties these days. Also, as Russell knows full well, there are no circumstances under which I will do a Guest Vagina spot. Being "singled out" (along with…

Hilary Stace

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:43 +1200

I'm not commenting on the main proposition, but there is a complication in the argument in that a few of the women who do get to positions of power immediately pull up the ladder behind them and become worse bullies than the men they replaced.

Bart Janssen

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:03:26 +1200

the experts are always and everywhere male

God yes! It drives me crazy. Scientists who actually have all the data at hand that without any shadow of a doubt show that diversity (esp. gender diversity) in leadership of science is good still persist in giving all the leadership/expert roles to…

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:54:43 +1200

Absolutely. But I don’t think we will get past tokenism by just letting things be.

No disagreement from me – but it’s a little more complex that just saying “vagina, melanin, queer, three straight white guys, my work is done let’s go to the bar!” No it really isn’t; you're…

Danielle

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:18:40 +1200

media expertise or glamour

Emma is the one with both of those, right? I'm currently wearing sheepskin slippers while fending off baby-puke, and I only have really well thought-out opinions on the construction of gender in, uh, Millionaire Matchmaker.

Deborah

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:15:09 +1200

Absolutely. But I don’t think we will get past tokenism by just letting things be. I have things to say about that but (a) I really need to go and do my paid work and (b) I might leave it for tomorrow, per mine host’s request.

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:03:22 +1200

On the gripping hand, it won’t change unless a concerted effort is made to change it.

That’s true – but there’s also the right way and the wrong way. Sci-fi fandom is, all too often fairly, as being a huge slab of HAM (hetro, Anglo and male) – and a…

Russell Brown

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:34:37 +1200

Ah: here it is.

Sarah Daniell spotted this Guardian data blog which counts female voices in UK newspapers and panel shows.

Interesting, the least male-dominated of the dailies is ... The Daily Mail, although that is probably related to the celebrity-oriented "feMail" content that makes the mail's website such an…

Jackie Clark

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:04:12 +1200

How on topic are we then? We are the zeitgeist.

Russell Brown

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:26:33 +1200

An astonishing statistic came out of the US recenty: even on issues that are regarded as women’s issues such as abortion and birth control, men are quoted around five times more than women. It all goes to show who is regarded as authoritative, and who is not.

A topic for…

Deborah

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:26:04 +1200

Hmmm.... I have noticed the gender balance on Media7, and on other media – The Panel on Radio NZ is none too flash when it comes to diversity. It's not great.

It makes me think a little of the gendered conference campaign being run by Feminist Philosophers. (un)Surprisingly, it turns…

Ross Mason

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:25:35 +1200

a certain Fiona Rae, who has also turned us down

Heh. Didn't Stephen Price manage it on the Court Report???

:-)

Lilith __

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:53:49 +1200

a certain Fiona Rae, who has also turned us down

Oh dear!

Russell Brown

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:49:43 +1200

OK – here’s a serious media question that would involve female expertise in their role as professional television reviewers.

Like Diana Wichtel, who we have asked more than once but refuses to come on television. Or a certain Fiona Rae, who has also turned us down. Throng’s Rachel Cunliffe, on…

Hilary Stace

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:59 +1200

Where would any TV programme be without a valued audience?

Lilith __

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:42:47 +1200

We’re a place for discussion about the media

Nothing to stop others from working up their own show on a topic of their own choosing. I recognise how much hard slog Russell and the Media 7 team must have done to carve out the niche that they have. And then…

Hilary Stace

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:37:22 +1200

OK – here's a serious media question that would involve female expertise in their role as professional television reviewers. Why don't the television reviewers in many of the major dailies and magazines ever mention TVNZ7? They write about obscure programmes on the far reaches of Sky but never seem to…

Jackie Clark

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:32:27 +1200

Alas, it's true. No expert in media am I. To be fair to Russell and his team, it is a show about the media, with panel discussions by people in that field.

Russell Brown

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:14:08 +1200

I think Jackie’s suggestions upthread are perfectly valid topics for critical media attention.

I presume you mean these.

We’d talk about dogs. And houses. And Crown Lynn. And Dads. And dogs.

Unless those subjects become a focus of media coverage, I don’t imagine we’ll be seeing them on Media3…

Hilary Stace

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:09:18 +1200

And Crown Lynn has many possibilities: New Zealand history; ceramics – eg collecting, science, business; crafts; food (which is always in the news from reality TV cooking shows to endless obesity stories). As I said, it's how you frame the subjects. I would even suggest Jackie as a regular panellist…

Jackie Clark

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:31:29 +1200

Dogs are always in the news. So are houses. And dads. :)

Sacha

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:09:13 +1200

It's also about how you decide on subjects.

I agree media's subject choices are critical because a media criticism show is always driven by those. You can't critique what hasn't been aired.

I think Jackie's suggestions upthread are perfectly valid topics for critical media attention.

I presume you mean these.…

Rich of Observationz

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:40:32 +1200

he North Shore tribe is populated by self-made men and women – self- starters with large doses of ambition, aspiration, perseverance and achievement. There’s a simple and powerful philosophy underpinning this set of tribal values:

Mortgage fraud.

Hilary Stace

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:47:18 +1200

It's also about how you decide on subjects. I think Jackie's suggestions upthread are perfectly valid topics for critical media attention.

Sacha

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:09:15 +1200

it is about assessing expertise differently

In some areas of life perhaps. But whether people currently know about a particular subject area and can speak about it on TV?

Kumara Republic

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:56:03 +1200

I'm from Grey Lynn apparently. GREY LYNN???? !!!! FFS. Who wrote that diatribe? They authors HAVE to be North Shore. I see Te Kuiti Pinetrees don't feature. The nearest the tribes go to anything rural is Balclutha. Maori?? Who or where are they??

It's been covered before by fellow PAS'ers..…

Ross Mason

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:55:42 +1200

Gender and Media 7. The gathering of ( a wee bit more than anecdata I hope) of Media 7. Given the lack of replay TV I have had a quick look at the programmes you can get at and the Media 7 extras just below the full programmes.…

Lilith __

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:51:40 +1200

they have the gall to make money from this?

Gosh, I read the summary as satire. But apparently it's market research. Not sure how to feel about that!

Steve Barnes

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:31:19 +1200

The nearest the tribes go to anything rural is Balclutha.

And that’s what it said I was. I don’t know what to think…
eta. It actually said Balclutha/Raglan, I think I will be ok.

Hilary Stace

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:23:19 +1200

Sometimes it takes a bit more effort to get those of 'us' who are are not from the dominant white middle-class, middle-aged, able-bodied, etc male demographic into the studio. As it is to get more diverse representation in politics, business, academia, encyclopedias or most places of power. It's called affirmative…

Steve Barnes

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:21:22 +1200

Hegemony? homogeneity? its' all the same in the end,
like blowing strawmen in the wind.

Ross Mason

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:17:32 +1200

Where did you find that gem?

8 Tribes huh.

Lilith __

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:50:39 +1200

But many of us would like a world in which the diversity of society was reflected in the media and in popular culture.

How many of “us”, is that gender specific or is it like a straw person?. I’m getting confused as to where the divisions may lie.

You’ve lost…

Steve Barnes

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:42:29 +1200

But many of us would like a world in which the diversity of society was reflected in the media and in popular culture.

How many of "us", is that gender specific or is it like a straw person?. I'm getting confused as to where the divisions may lie.

Kumara Republic

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:37:04 +1200

think of it as Takapuna :)

I would have... but the initials wouldn't quite line up.

On the other hand...

Lilith __

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:28:58 +1200

I would cringe so badly if I ever heard a woman declare that she was only on the show because she was a woman and as such didn’t know anything.

No one is suggesting unqualified pundits on TV, this is a straw-person.

But many of us would like a world…

Steve Barnes

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:16:05 +1200

Personally I don’t care if I’m listening to a female expert talking on a topic or a male expert talking on a topic, as long as they are an expert talking on a topic.

Precisely. I would cringe so badly if I ever heard a woman declare that she was…

Steve Barnes

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:12:59 +1200

Mind you who gains from strip clubs and penis pills? ;)

Women?

Sacha

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:10:52 +1200

think of it as Takapuna :)

Susan Snowdon

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:57:26 +1200

– it’s more like TVNS, or Television North Shore.

That's a bit harsh... (from Birkenhead)

Susan Snowdon

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:54:17 +1200

what I really liked were the wide range of science-related docos

Me too!

Yamis

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:44:03 +1200

In any case, women do not seem to only watch TV shows featuring women any more than Koreans only watch shows featuring people of their culture. The situation is more complex than that.

My Korean wife watches Game of Thrones, House, The Walking Dead, the news, home and garden shows,…

Matthew Littlewood

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:10:35 +1200

Congrats, Russell, highly deserved. On a similar but different note, while I was a fan of Media 7, Backbenchers, the Good Word etc, what I really liked were the wide range of science-related docos (most of them from the BBC) that screened on TVNZ7. They were often the sort of…

Kumara Republic

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:13:18 +1200

Yes I know it is complex about who watches when and why but when there is no reflection of the diversity that makes up society it just gets boring.
Too true. TVNZ for the most part has been a misnomer for some years now – it’s more like TVNS, or…

Russell Brown

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 22:06:17 +1200

I’m sure Russell and the team have tried hard to get women to participate. Their lack of success reflects other common issues that this thread has revealed: the assumption that media experts are predominantly male; and that women do not see themselves as experts and certainly do not want to…

Sacha

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:55:46 +1200

... a couple of mothers, some young female family members, and a nice motherly lawyer. With host Linda Clark ...

Imagine the impact on male viewing numbers. :)

Hilary Stace

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:14:40 +1200

Interesting blog post thanks, Sacha.

Yes I know it is complex about who watches when and why but when there is no reflection of the diversity that makes up society it just gets boring.

I'm a great fan of the Court Report and the stand out programme for me recently…

Sacha

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:11:38 +1200

that women do not see themselves as experts and certainly do not want to get up in public and talk about their expertise

Interesting post recently about what was required to get women to present at a tech conference.

Sacha

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:08:05 +1200

I agree about the ratio and that panels with diversity can be more interesting to watch.

However, when a show focuses on common media coverage of issues, it invariably ends up engaging the prevailing discourses – and experts – in various public fields. Media7/3 can try hard for a range…

Jackie Clark

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:28:12 +1200

We'd talk about dogs. And houses. And Crown Lynn. And Dads. And dogs. I think it might make riveting television.

Hilary Stace

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:32:59 +1200

I haven't been keeping stats but I would disagree about gender balance – my estimate would be about 80/20 in favour of men. It is not a problem unless you want women to watch/engage with the programme in bigger proportions than this.

I'm sure Russell and the team have tried…

Lilith __

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:27:32 +1200

Russ has a pretty balanced gender split

Wow, you know something about Russell that we don't know??

But seriously, does anyone have any actual figures on that? Talking heads in current affairs programmes are predominantly men.

And I think perhaps PAS has more regular women commenters than most places on…

Geoff Lealand

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:16:23 +1200

The Sofie and Jackie Show. Now there's a concept!

Steve Barnes

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:29:01 +1200

That’s great news but can I make a suggestion? Please can you have some more girls on your panel? What about bringing some local women from your audience onto the stage

Can I ask why? It seems to me that Russ has a pretty balanced gender split and considering we…

Steve Parks

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:28:59 +1200

The difference between Media 7 and Back Benches is that we’re made by TVNZ, produced internally as part of News & Current Affairs. So when the announcement was made to close TVNZ 7, Top Shelf and RB did what any good production company would do, and hit the phones, worked contacts,…

SteveH

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 03:31:40 +1200

This is great news!

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:42:52 +1200

Good to see some new folk contributing today

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:40:55 +1200

Goes well with a little patois

Lilith __

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:27:25 +1200

Argot is a bit uncomfortable in the mouth

Wait til you try ergot! ;-)

Phil fryer

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:55:37 +1200

Unquestionable integrity of interviewer, respondents with honest & entertaining answers, without grandstanding, for viewers!
-on commercial tv, I'll enjoy it, ,& when I've have seen it, t'will be easy to believe it !
well deserved, by all involved, long may ya'all remain there & with the real sauce !

Richard Aston

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:44:42 +1200

you young folk and your argot

Wow learn't a new word today thanks Sacha.

Argot is a bit uncomfortable in the mouth but a good word non the less, better than jargon which sounds I dunno american

mnpound

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:27:01 +1200

created an account just so i could share YAY to the news.
BRAVI

Jan Farr

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:43:29 +1200

Any chance you could make it an hour long?

Congratulations and I totally agree with above sentiment.

Euan Mason

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:25:15 +1200

Congrats! Presumably you'll have to make time for ads now?

What a shame (in both senses) for NZ that TVNZ7 is going down.

Sacha

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:46:06 +1200

sheer grooviness

you young folk and your argot

Sacha

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:45:20 +1200

Collected show DVDs?

Sacha

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:44:30 +1200

What about bringing some local women from your audience onto the stage

My understanding is that it's driven by whatever topic is being discussed. Might be a place to suggest experts who are not white men.

Sacha

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:42:21 +1200

Top Shelf and RB did what any good production company would do, and hit the phones, worked contacts, tried to find a new home.

And it is heartening to see that effort pay off. Producers are part of a great team.

Myles Thomas

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:24:50 +1200

Sorry for flogging a dead horse, but did anyone suggest to Curran that if her party is serious about public television they might want to rethink putting a kill switch on the funding next time? Blah blah of course I’d say that etc. but really…

that really IS a dead…

Myles Thomas

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:20:48 +1200

This is great news. It'll be interesting to see your ratings – especially on Sat morning. Also you'll have to turn the heat up at times on your own bosses so please – no more self-censoring.

As for Saving TVNZ 7 we'll take it to the wire – you never…

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:16:48 +1200

Go on --you would be great. But avoid wearing striped shirts.
If we are looking to gender equality, could we still make some exclusions--Michelle Boag or Joanne Black, for example?

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:12:20 +1200

In my experience, you throw up before, you throw up afterwards but you’re OK during the event yourself (no matter how convinced you are you were a babbling brook of imbecility).

Not sure that helped, but the truth seldom does. :)

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:51:30 +1200

Hilary! No!

So, that's sorted then ;)

Jackie Clark

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:31:23 +1200

Hilary! No! Frighten me half to death it would. And when speaking under pressure, ie in front of big crowds, cameras, or both, I tend to tear up and not speak well at all. Big old bummer that would be.

Stupid

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:30:02 +1200

Congrats Russell. Still sucks about TV7 though. Unbelievable.

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:27:09 +1200

and Sofie?

No! :)

nic.wise

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:22:16 +1200

how much is geoblocked

I'm not sure – ive not tried.

Just tried it. Campbell live appears to work.

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:21:19 +1200

That’s great news but can I make a suggestion? Please can you have some more girls on your panel?

To be fair, I don't think it's for lack of effort. While things are a lot better than they used to be, there's still serious gender/diversity gaps at senior editorial and…

Kracklite

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:59:17 +1200

This is sheer grooviness.

Lilith __

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:48:14 +1200

pointing percy at the proletariat project

A clean shot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJeSIwSOS8E&feature=related

;-)

Lilith __

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:32 +1200

adhocracy

Word!
And what we are living under, too...

Russell Brown

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:43:45 +1200

That’s great news but can I make a suggestion? Please can you have some more girls on your panel?

Look out next week.

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:42:06 +1200

What becomes a legend?
…at least part of 7 will live on
That raises a good point.
Does anyone know what will happen to all the 7-generated stuff on the TVNZ on-demand site?
Will the TVNZ stuff remain (like Back Benches ) and does the rest revert to the originating…

Richard Aston

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:35:38 +1200

Great news for real news Russell .
Will Media 3 be the same as Media 7 – didn't have to compromise too much to get on a commercial channel?
Will you still be able to piss people off in other words.

Clint Fern

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:20:29 +1200

Thought you didn't look as disappointed as you should at the end of last nights show when I thought there was only two to go. Well done, great that at least part of 7 will live on.

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:14:53 +1200

I don't like young 'uns being facile.

Tom Semmens

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:13:42 +1200

Congratulations :)

Tim Michie

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:03:52 +1200

Very happy for you and the team Russell and for me as viewer.

I saw The Nation had added media comment but so brief in comparison it's great to know TV3 aren't attempting to duplicate what you've already built.

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:01:47 +1200

the argot naught...
Don’t like old guys trying to be hip, though.
admittedly Ace, Boss and Hip are all older than Russell, but were
an accepted part of the parlance & patois of his generation...
it's these young folk that create a flipped out adhocracy by
appropriating and messing with the…

Hilary Stace

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:57:30 +1200

That's great news but can I make a suggestion? Please can you have some more girls on your panel? What about bringing some local women from your audience onto the stage – people like Jackie and Sofie?

Damian Christie

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:23:07 +1200

It is great news for Media 7/3 – well done Russell. And credit to TV3 for taking it on. Not only do they get some great programming, they also get the chance to stick it to TVNZ for letting its public service programming slip away. I'd imagine the latter was…

David Chittenden

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:14:53 +1200

Congratulations Russell and the team! That is very good news. Media 7 is the only show from NZ that I watch while I'm out of the country for a few years. I really hope the on demand thing won't be geo-blocked for Media 3 ...

chris

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:56:35 +1200

They had free live games on Guangdong sports channel, the commentators seemed pretty fresh but they loved our Piri.

OT – Ups team!

Lucy Stewart

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:31:06 +1200

Actually, 99% of the time I was just looking for highlights, but denied about half of that time.

See, I can just about understand them geoblocking the highlights – though that's probably because I had legal, cheap-ish access to all the games if I wanted 'em, thanks to a decent…

Steve Parks

Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:22:24 +1200

Bodacious.

Chris Waugh

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:36:17 +1200

Actually, 99% of the time I was just looking for highlights, but denied about half of that time. Then there was the final, which found me reading out the NZ Herald's live 'coverage' and the usually more up-to-date Chinese-language informal updates on Sina Weibo to my mum, and it was…

Lucy Stewart

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:13:09 +1200

I had trouble seeing much of the Rugby World Cup, apparently because of all the licencing deals that are done around such things.

That really got to me. I just wanted to watch people back home being happy about winning the Cup, but if a NZ media segment had even…

BenWilson

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:03:46 +1200

Great news. Choice as.

sarahk

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:51:21 +1200

Ooooooooooooh!

Lilith __

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:48:18 +1200

old guys trying to be hip

There's no trying about it. ;-)

Russell Brown

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:47:11 +1200

Don’t like old guys trying to be hip, though.

Oh, get over yourself.

sarahk

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:30:07 +1200

Glad your new theme is "totally boss". That's like soooo awesome. You are one random dude. Just don't look in the mirror or check the birthdate on your passport and you'll be ace, totally ace.

Actually I like the show. Don't like old guys trying to be hip, though.

Sacha

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:09:38 +1200

Saturday mornings are better for me than Wednesday afternoons

It will only screen then. I'll let our host give taping session details when he's ready.

Sacha

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:07:34 +1200

Bravo.

Simon Bennett

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:02:02 +1200

I'm really pleased. Congratulations!

Sofie Bribiesca

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:31:03 +1200

Hey Russ, was in the Taipa Tavern t'other night. What was on ? TVNZ7. I asked Fruitcake if she knew it was shutting down. Nobody in the pub knew and was most disappointed.Today I asked a friend if he knew it was shutting down. He was really upset. No body…

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:28:10 +1200

Show time...
Good news that the show survives...
But a sad indictment on TVNZ that they would foster and raise a fledging show to adulthood, then kick it out of the nest to fly with the opposition – why would they do that? Doesn't show much business acumen, but I…

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:22:37 +1200

I was part of a panel at the uni last night (with David Beatson, Claire Curran, Mark Servian and Bomber Bradbury), facing an overflowing lecture theatre full of citizens enraged at the decision to let the channel die,

Sorry for flogging a dead horse, but did anyone suggest to Curran…

JP Hansen

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:14:09 +1200

Fantastic news, and the timeslot is completely irrelevant – I don't think I've ever watched the show live.

Lilith __

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:08:46 +1200

Not much of a morning TV watcher and I refuse to record stuff

Available on the internet on demand :-)

Raymond A Francis

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:06:18 +1200

Excellent news ,especially for you Russell
Not much of a morning TV watcher and I refuse to record stuff on the off chance I will ever get around to watching at some future time but I can see a change in my future too

DexterX

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:49:36 +1200

Cool

Stewart

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:52:18 +1200

Excellent news. Congratulations to TV3 on a great decision; and to Media3.

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:17:18 +1200

Welcome, Tony. Always good to see lurkers raise their profile.

tonyH

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:11:18 +1200

Well done Media7 team (5 years!) and those at TV3 with the vision to recognise that continued excellence. I shared Robyn’s concerns about other 7 content but your reply to her strikes the right note, Russell – could the likes of Kim D rise above donating to Banks and underwrite…

Rob Stowell

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:03:37 +1200

Great news :) Deserved and we are the better served for it!
(Not ready to give up on Save TVNZ 7- even if it has to become 'Remember TVNZ 7' it's built a very strong following. We'll be considerably poorer (and crosser) when the switch is flicked off.)

JLM

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 19:02:04 +1200

Still, it only diminishes a little the gathering gloom around the demise of TVNZ7. I was part of a panel at the uni last night (with David Beatson, Claire Curran, Mark Servian and Bomber Bradbury), facing an overflowing lecture theatre full of citizens enraged at the decision to let the…

Russell Brown

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:58:27 +1200

So from what I can tell, if Media 3 is put in the same category as news and current affairs, then us expats should be able to watch it.

Excellent. That's very helpful, thank you.

Chris Waugh

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:46:44 +1200

How much of T3 on demand is geoblocked for you at the moment, out of interest?

On the assumption that TV3 simply blocks anybody coming from a non-NZ IP address....

I've never had any troubles watching TV3 news, either segments or entire broadcasts. Campbell Live, also. I currently have the…

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:36:47 +1200

News that has made my day, as I sniffle and cough through a bloody cold. I was fearing that opportunities for field trips for my students might have disappeared.

Still, it only diminishes a little the gathering gloom around the demise of TVNZ7. I was part of a panel at…

Russell Brown

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:35:09 +1200

But what does this do for the Save TVNZ7 movement? Along with Back Benches, Media7 was one of the flagship shows of the channel, and one of the reasons why people wanted to save the channel. What will be left to save of TVNZ7?

There is no saving TVNZ 7…

Jackie Clark

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:34:32 +1200

Congratulations, my love. That's fantastic news. Will there still be live tapings? Because, frankly, Saturday mornings are better for me than Wednesday afternoons.

Russell Brown

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:31:34 +1200

Is there still a plan to podcast it? Living in London, it’s a great way to keep up with what’s happening in NZ… (happy to help with that if needed)

I'll have to have a conversation with them about that. How much of T3 on demand is geoblocked for you…

Deborah

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:16:09 +1200

This is great news, Russell. Fantastic.

Little Myy

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:14:24 +1200

Congratulations to Media7 team! Looking forward to interesting stories and good debate.

Isabel Hitchings

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:14:04 +1200

Wonderful!

nic.wise

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:11:56 +1200

Excellent news! (you could have taken the opportunity to rename it Hardnews, for old times sake!)

Is there still a plan to podcast it? Living in London, it's a great way to keep up with what's happening in NZ... (happy to help with that if needed)

Kumara Republic

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:56:00 +1200

And so shall the phoenix rise from the ashes...

Robyn Gallagher

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:50:24 +1200

Brilliant news! And I'm excited knowing that the Media(n) team will continuing working. Jobs are good.

But what does this do for the Save TVNZ7 movement? Along with Back Benches, Media7 was one of the flagship shows of the channel, and one of the reasons why people wanted to save…

Brent Jackson

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:47:45 +1200

A good day for mediaphiles.

What he said, with an exclamation mark !

JacksonP

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:45:28 +1200

Excellent. I expect a three-fold increase in TV3 Saturday morning television viewing as a result. And I don't mean 32%.

Well done and congrats to everyone at Media 7.

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:35:55 +1200

Yay – but if they commission a new serious of Hori Shore... I mean, The GC there will be no quarter given to our new media overlords. The squandered opportunity upsets me more than the show itself...

Lilith __

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:29:58 +1200

Congratulations, this is a richly-deserved success for you and all the Media7 team!

nothingelseon

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:29:57 +1200

Great news! Any chance you could make it an hour long? Seems to fly by too quickly.

Paul Brislen

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:29:50 +1200

very well done. Now to see whether the standard of drinks are the same at Flower St...

Ross Mason

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:24:51 +1200

You mean.....I won't be having cold turkey afterall??? Noice.

Stephen Judd

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:24:01 +1200

Bloody good news. Well done, well deserved.

James W

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:20:45 +1200

It amazes me that the private television channel is more dedicated to public service television than the publically-funded channel. I mean, compare and contrast: The Nation (and Think Tank) vs Q&A. Campbell Live vs Close-Up. Sunday vs 60 Minutes. Inside NZ vs... sorry, I used up all of TVNZ's "current affairs."…

wasabicube

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:18:39 +1200

Congratulations! Pleased to see there's still room for stimulating conversation and intelligent argument on our screens.

Hebe

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:17:56 +1200

Good.

George Darroch

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:17:35 +1200

A good day for mediaphiles.

merc

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:14:08 +1200

Stoked! I seem to remember suggesting TV to you some years back ;-) You and the team do it well, TV3's gain and all that.

ScottY

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:13:51 +1200

That is truly awesome news. Congratulations

John Holley

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:13:25 +1200

Awesome result for you Russell and the crew – and for all us fans!

Public Address

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:13:25 +1200

Discussion from blog post.