Hard News: Media3: The Maori Media Man
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
He was great. It’s a shame he couldn’t speak for longer.
On literary grounds, I'm not Rushdie's biggest fan but as a human being who's lived through that horrendous shit with a damn near-miraculous good grace (and even a sense of dry, black humour)? Nothing but the deepest respect.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
and even a sense of dry, black humour)
Very much on display in the Daily Show interview.
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Bennett Row, in reply to
Russell, the web page you linked to doesn’t say that the skateboarding club was attacked. It says the bombing took place outside the ISAF headquarters and that members of the skateboarding club were near the HQ at the time. This is backed up by CNN, LA Times, ESPN, etc:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/17/world/asia/afghan-children-suicide-blast/index.html
Though one wouldn’t know it from reading the BBC report: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19580747
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Very much on display in the Daily Show interview
I don't think Rushdie is the only person who found something farcically surreal -- as well as incredibly sinister -- about it all. Could you imagine John Paul II (who was technically a head of state as well as a religious leader) basically trying to incite American Catholics to murder Rushdie's friend Christopher Hitchens, his publishers and anyone who sold his writings for dissing his home-girl Mother Teresa?
It's also easy to forget while Rushdie himself is alive and well, the novel's Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was murdered in the same month Ettore Capriolo, the Italian translator, was seriously injured in another stabbing. In 1993, Norwegian publisher William Nygaard was shot three times in the chest outside his home.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Russell, the web page you linked to doesn’t say that the skateboarding club was attacked. It says the bombing took place outside the ISAF headquarters and that members of the skateboarding club were near the HQ at the time. This is backed up by CNN, LA Times, ESPN, etc:
Does that really make much difference? They strapped a bomb to a 13 year-old child and sent him to detonate it in a place where he would be surrounded by other children.
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The thing about this film that seems to be forgotten is that it's really seems to be an Egyptian domestic political play - it was made by Egyptian Coptic Christians to provoke Egyptian Muslims - sure it was made in the US and most of the push back has been towards the US - but I don't see how that is in the Copt's interest, it was probably unintentional - unless maybe the purpose was to have the US come down on their side against the new Egyptian govt.
And I'm sure the film's not representative of all or even most Copts, as much as the people killing in the film's name are representative of most Muslims
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I don’t see how that is in the Copt’s interest, it was probably unintentional – unless maybe the purpose was to have the US come down on their side against the new Egyptian govt.
But the producer created a fake identity -- that of an Israeli Jewish property developer living in California -- to front it, which would seem to complicate likely intentions.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
And I’m sure the film’s not representative of all or even most Copts,
Indeed. From what I've read it was made by a tiny community of Coptic extremists tied up with Evangelical extremists like that charming pastor in Florida who thought burning a Koran a good way to build bridges between religious communities.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
But the producer created a fake identity
And is a convicted fraudster with a history of creating fake identities. Apparently also a pornographer.
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And the film’s stars have spilt the beans saying they were duped.
It’s not just the convicted fraudster “Sam Bacile” who’s toying with political grenades. The real chessmaster, it seems, is Steve Klein, yet another rabid Breivikite who’s under the Southern Poverty Law Centre’s hate-group watch.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
And the film’s stars have spilt the beans saying they were duped.
This account hosted at Nei Gaiman's blog makes for disturbing reading.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
The real chessmaster, it seems, is Steve Klein, yet another rabid Breivikite who’s under the Southern Poverty Law Centre’s hate-group watch.
Ah yes. Forgot about him.
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Rob Stowell, in reply to
that won’t be published until after the Naomi Wolf one …
Somewhat off topic-
Germaine has a go :) -
mark taslov, in reply to
That was a barrel of laughs Rob, ties in snugly with the recent NZ release of 'Hysteria'.
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Bennett Row, in reply to
Does that really make much difference?
On one hand, no – it’s a sickening act no matter who was targeted. But in the interests of accuracy I think it does make a difference. It was claimed that the skateboarding club was attacked, but this didn’t happen at all.
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and sticking with paroxysm:
This paroxysm of protest – and violence – had begun in Cairo. But what, really, began there?
Much of the mainstream media has played it as a spontaneous reaction to a disgusting film clip which denigrated Muslims and happened to be made and promoted in the USA.
But New York Times editorialist Ross Douthat argued it had nothing to do with a “genuine popular backlash,” but everything to do with old-style power politics. For Jim Clifton, chairman of the pollster Gallup, it wasn’t about religion or politics, but rather the desperate expression of young Arab males, deeply humiliated because they couldn’t find jobs.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Germaine has a go :)
"Wolf is not simply incurably heterosexual" - however accurate, I find it rather ironic seeing Greer complaining anyone else is guilty of seeing the world through heterosexist cis-privileged glasses given her oft-repeated and ghastly attacks on transwomen.
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Glenn Greenwald writes in The Guardian that the attack in Benghazi was not at all a protest that turned into a riot, but instead a planned terrorist attack.
"'I would say they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack,' said Matthew Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, told the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
"It was the first time that a senior administration official had said the attack was not the result of a demonstration over an anti-Islam video that has been cited as the spark for protests in dozens of countries over the past week .'The picture that is emerging is one where a number of different individuals were involved,' Olsen said."
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Danielle, in reply to
Greer's was funny in parts but I like this one the best: The Problem With Naomi Wolf's Vagina. The requisite number of silly puns, but also a broader analysis of why this sort of 'hatable' feminism is the only thing we really get to discuss any more.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
<i>also a broader analysis of why this sort of ‘hatable’ feminism is the only thing we really get to discuss any more.</i>
And don't forget when two men disagree they're public intellectuals. When women do, it's a bitch-slapping cat fight over feminism's zombie corpse! Or something.
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Angus Robertson, in reply to
And don't forget when two men disagree they're public intellectuals.
Huh, really?
When two atheists disagree it is definitive proof of the majesty of God.
When two anti-war activists disagree it is proof that appeasement will always fail and we can't lets the terrorists win.
When [feminists] do, it's a bitch-slapping cat fight over feminism's zombie corpse!
Same shit generic meme, different channel.
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Sacha, in reply to
Mark, can you perhaps use the PAS quote tags instead of making your whole extract into a link?
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Sam Harris on That Film:
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-freedom-to-offend-an-imaginary-god
The freedom to think out loud on certain topics, without fear of being hounded into hiding or killed, has already been lost. And the only forces on earth that can recover it are strong, secular governments that will face down charges of blasphemy with scorn. No apologies necessary.
And I did like The Onion’s cartoon (above) of Ganesha fisting Bhudda while jacking off Jesus and Moses – no deaths ensue.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/
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Danielle, in reply to
Same shit generic meme, different channel.
If you don't see the gendered nature of these sorts of things, you are very lucky.
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The Innocence of Muslims affair also brings to mind the Masada movement in the 1980s, which was eventually exposed as a bunch of neo-Nazi agents-provocateur deliberately sabotaging Jewish-Muslim relations in France.
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