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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p>It's a cute line of National's. </p><p>Meanwhile, almost every  area of social policy is literally dying of cash starvation. Housing. Income equality. Education (or rather, the lack of it). Environment. Not everything's bad. Just all the basic stuff. Did I mention health?</p><p>So as a hard working New Zealander, I'm…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2017 10:30:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gavin White</title>
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						<p>@Trevor Nicholls Look how well that turned out for the Australian right wing parties 🤣</p><p>@Russell Also with those Maori seat polls, we should remember the fieldwork dates (20 out of 37 days were before Jacinda became Labour leader) and that historically Maori seat polls have been relatively positive for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:54:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>Go on believing whatever suits your worldview though.</q></p><p>There's no need to be rude. It's just my opinion that this sort of passive details check letter can be problematic. Easy to not check the details if you think the details haven't changed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:56:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Easy enough to read the first few sentences and since nothing has changed throw it away without looking further down at the details.</q></p><p>Hence the section I've pictured above being in bold and only a handful of lines from the start of the letter. Go on believing whatever suits your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:56:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						Today Peter Dunne joins the long list of those who now decry the emptiness of Keyism, but only after Key has gone. If they wanted elevated political discourse, they should have got around to telling the former PM, maybe during one of those infantile rants on Budget day, or countless…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:16:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>Nope. You will find a scanned copy of the standard letter here or on Kiwibog if you prefer.</q></p><p>The letter is of the type I thought &ndash;  if things haven't changed then no need to do anything. Easy enough to read the first few sentences  and since nothing has changed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:42:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>Just FYI: we were told that Hosking was given a “clarification” to deliver last week – and rewrote it on his own, rendering the whole exercise of clarifying rather pointless.</q></p><p>This would square with the stories from the likes of Liz Gunn that Hoskings basically does as he pleases and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 06:19:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p>The National meme is correct in that the tax burden does unfairly fall on "hard-working New Zealanders".</p><p>The truth is that the tax burden should be more equitably borne by the New Zealanders who don't have to work hard, because their income and capital, which dwarf those of hard working…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:40:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						Future generations should not be an ATM for the National Party.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:07:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Most likely it was a matter of – have your details changed – to which one would say no they haven’t.</q></p><p>Nope. You will find a scanned copy of the standard letter <a href="https://thestandard.org.nz/dear-winston/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> or on Kiwibog if you prefer.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:52:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						<p><q>And why apparently did Peters not get or respond to annual MSD letter to confirm eligibility details?</q></p><p>Most likely it was a matter of – have your details changed – to which one would say no they haven’t. And he would have had no reason to believe otherwise.</p><p>But he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:18:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kevin McCready</title>
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						I'm shocked at how easy the media is going on #PetersPension. He's admitted he paid it back with interest and penalties. Why would a lawyer pay penalties unless they were part of a settlement deal? I assume MSD decided evidentiary burden of proof in court may not have supported guilty…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:26:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>New Zealanders are not an ATM</q><br />Is low-level sociopsychological language, it pits one stratum of society against another. Its unfunny how those doing ok still seem to want to see themselves as victims.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:50:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>New Zealanders are not an ATM for ...</q></p><p>I think a much better response is "Forget ATMs, New Zealanders are where the government gets their money from. The real question is whether it's used to help the many or the few?" (to steal another foreign slogan).</p><p>If you must buy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:22:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						...trucking lobby.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:16:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Rugby, Infratil*, Weta, SAP...</p><p>(although the leading cheerleaders for us buying Infratil a fairly useless new runway are our Labour councillors in Wellington, one of whom is now running for parliament).</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:03:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						pointless corporate-style rebranding efforts, aka flag-wa(i)ving …
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:50:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mpledger</title>
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						<p>Hard-working New Zealanders are not an ATM for Saudi sheep farmers, Sky City, Orivida...</p><p>the aluminium smelter, movie industry or  the water industry ...</p><p><br />Feel free to add more....</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:36:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>Was that National ATM slogan out before or after the $10b promise of new roads ?</q></p><p>Actually I believe it's been borrowed/bought/stolen from Australian right wing parties at the last election.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:09:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I've been trying to expunge the whole thing from my life, if I didn't have to do something whilst waiting for the computer occasionally I'd succeed.</p><p>I have no idea what's going on though. Peters had hundreds of deceased NZF members bequeath him their super entitlements and thought that was…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Was that National ATM slogan out before or after the $10b promise of new roads ? Have we all got so skeptical / cynical that election bribes from the main parties is even seen as a strategy at all. Come on sheeple :)</p><p>I won’t be watching any election stuff…</p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Hosking has either demonstrated a profound lack of knowledge about the NZ electoral system, or else he has deliberately spread misinformation to suit his political bias. Either should disqualify him from any role moderating a political debate.
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						Hard-working New Zealanders are not an ATM for Saudi sheep farmers, Sky City or Orivida.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Just FYI: we were told that Hosking was given a “clarification” to deliver last week – and rewrote it on his own, rendering the whole exercise of clarifying rather pointless.
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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