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				<title>JT Brown</title>
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						Oh the blessed irony . Newstalk ZB was an RNZ station don't forget, until the Nats sold RNZ's entire network, destroying local radio in the process despite the insistence of ZB managers ( like Bill Francis, now on the Board at RNZ) that the provinces would not miss out. Well,…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:09:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						OK I tried the red button but it didn't seem to be working.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:57:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If a lot of the point of the ratings is to be able to price advertising, then including RadioNZ doesn’t help them since RadioNZ doesn’t sell advertising.</p><p>Being able to say “Most listened to station-that-will-take-your-advertising-dollars” is less attractive than being able to say “most listened to station”.</q></p><p>Indeed. And under…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:05:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Russell: re the Patron thing. I think we are still contributing a regular auto payment to PA but should we shift it to this new option?</q></p><p>Yes, please do. And thanks!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:58:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						The only way RNZ's funding will increase is if we change the government.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:18:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t know that they care about being able to brag to advertisers</q></p><p>Obviously, whatever they're in it for, it's nothing to do with advertisers.</p><p>But touting one's ratings clout is good for listenership and sends a message to funders, I'd have thunk.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:10:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Pete Sime</title>
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						In regards to the Herald article it sounds like a Press Council complaint could be in order for a breach of accuracy, fairness and balance.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:04:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>I have joined up with Newsroom.pro. It is $29 a month but cancelling our NZ Herald sub would more than compensate.</p><p>Good news about Media Take. I will try and get up for it when I can.</p><p>Russell: re the Patron thing. I think we are still contributing a regular…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:39:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						To call the commercial radio stations disingenuous would be a a bit of an understatement. Lying bastards would be a better description.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:35:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p>If a lot of the point of the ratings is to be able to price advertising, then including RadioNZ doesn't help them since RadioNZ doesn't sell advertising.</p><p>Being able to say "Most listened to station-that-will-take-your-advertising-dollars" is less attractive than being able to say "most listened to station".</p><p>From a RadioNZ…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:13:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p>Soz if you've already covered this.</p><p>I don't get it. Did Nielsen or whoever does the survey give RNZ a discount on the fee for inclusion?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:39:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>This also happened last night – the awesome Harkanwal Singh gave an Ihaka lecture about data journalism. The talking starts at 11:20.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/hLVlZpi4azw?t=11m20s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/hLVlZpi4azw?t=11m20s</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:53:09 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:53:08 +1300</pubDate>
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