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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>You asked for this:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdvdm7cJnA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htdvdm7cJnA</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:44:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						I was going to say <em>echognomics</em>, after the soulless repeating of mantra spouted by ACT's spiritual leader – but that joke’s kinda <a href="http://www.us.lspace.org/books/apf/the-colour-of-magic.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">already been done</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:15:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>I was going to say gnomicology </q><br />I'm liking the sound of <em>Egognomics</em><br />Rodney Hide <em>must</em> have a degree in this...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:42:38 +1200</pubDate>
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						I was going to say gnomicology &ndash; but gynaecology was a better fit &ndash; all things considered.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:14:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Hagar is in part responsible for Key rising.</q><br />Like, <a href="http://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Hagar_the_Horrible.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hagar the Terminally Unfunny</a>?<br />Thought it was only junior actoids that persisted in that infantile confusion, deliberate or otherwise.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:10:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						In Nov 2006, after resigning as leader of National in opposition, Brash resigned from Parliament as Key, declined to offer him any position – they would not even let Brash sweep the floors – such is the regard he is held by the present version of the Parlimentary National Party.…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:53:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p><q>Dr Brash has a Phd in economics and an honorary doctorate in gynaecology – it is this later qualification which best suits his present role as leader of Act.</q></p><p>o, truly?<br />How exactly can you get “an honorary  doctorate in gyni”?<br />I’m assuming you are making some silly wee joke,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:32:31 +1200</pubDate>
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						Bollard, to be taken seriously, has to first lose a safe National seat in an electoral race to Social Credit, have a stint as leader of the opposition, Mount a successful take over of Act whilst being a card carrying member of the National Party, then and only then will…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:22:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Eye queue test...</strong><br />read as:<br /><q>...and possibly eat the <strong>faeces</strong> off <br />of opposition MPs</q><br />so that's where the phrase "sh*t-eating smile" <br />comes from...</p><p>and also read as:<br /><q>Don Brash as minister of <strong>SOBs</strong> </q><br />Time for the next ex-Guv to come through<br />&ndash; Alan Bollard your time is now...<br />(Dr Haywood…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:17:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>you'll also need wereweta. even the small ones have a pretty nasty bite.</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weta " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> But then...</a> <q>Weta can bite with powerful mandibles. Tree weta bites are painful but not particularly common. Weta can inflict painful scratches, with the potential of infection, but their defence displays consist of looking large…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:41:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>A. Theo Logian</title>
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						Let's see: Airways, the power companies, NZ Post, Solid Energy, TVNZ, KiwiBank (if one doesn't lump it in with NZ Post), KiwiRail, and that's just the ones off the top of my head. The cupboard is emptier than it was, but it's by no means bare just yet.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:56:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						MP for Epsom automtically takes portfolio for Local Govt &ndash; all is as it should be.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:55:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						Rodney Hide is already the Minister for Local Government...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:04:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						Prebble beat him to it by 25 years.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:01:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>A. Theo Logian</title>
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						<p><q>    <br /><em>Don Brash as minister of SOEs.</em></p><p>What SOEs?</q></p><p>The ones that he will sell off within his first 100 days, of course. His aim will be to be the first Minister in history who does away with the need for his portfolio entirely intentionally and through his own actions.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:29:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Nimmo</title>
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						<p><q>Don Brash as minister of SOEs.</q></p><p>What SOEs?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:09:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>you'll also need wereweta. even the small ones have a pretty nasty bite.</q><br />Once Were Wetas?</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						you'll also need wereweta. even the small ones have a pretty nasty bite.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:37:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>The biosecurity people might be a bit unhappy about that. Best stick to were-taniwha, were-Haast’s-eagles, that sort of thing.</q></p><p>Were-tuataras!  This plan has possibilities.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:30:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger Lacey</title>
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						Don Nicholson probably needs a were-rabbit set on him. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3m3bhK314&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3m3bhK314&feature=related</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:00:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p>Read as<br /><q>(and possibly eat the faces off of <strong>opossum</strong> MPs.)</q></p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t know, I’d quite like a few werecrocodiles in parliament to advocate for my opinions(and possibly eat the faces off of opposition MPs.)</q></p><p>The biosecurity people might be a bit unhappy about that. Best stick to were-taniwha, were-Haast's-eagles, that sort of thing.</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Yeah, that and passing the reptilian shape shifter test.</q></p><p>I don't know, I'd quite like a few werecrocodiles in parliament to advocate for my opinions(and possibly eat the faces off of opposition MPs.)</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>You're voting Act for gods sake !!! </q></p><p>Yes, I think they need big billboards up there during the election saying "A vote for ACT is a vote for ACT". Sometimes you need to state the obvious.</p>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p><q>I really don't undestand an Act strategic voter at all .</q></p><p>At the last election an Act strategic voter was wanting to ensure that National got and Act as a coalition partner was the guarantee.</p><p>This time around the Act strategic voter wants a massie shift to the right.</p><p>By…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:17:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						He was born again &ndash; Arise Lord Vader.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>If the ex-FF president does win a nomination, then it truly is the party of the Alex Jones vote.</q></p><p>UPDATE: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10738021" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">He's been confirmed</a>. Mr Jones, you have some new fans.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>This is the party for example that as a policy plank flatly reject the almost universally accepted scientific position on human caused global warming ??? Bizarre — in many ways they are miles to the right of National . </q></p><p>If the ex-FF president does win a nomination, then it truly…</p>
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						<p><q>Richard Worth was in Parliament for ~10 years. Rodney's been there ~14 years. It's more, but the difference ain't great.</q></p><p>But what I'm not getting is how Epsom voters vote Act presumably as a 'strategy' vote or so they say, without actually owning the vote.You're voting  Act for gods sake…</p>
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				<title>Leigh Kennaway</title>
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						<p><q>Avondale was quite teh place back in the day.</q></p><p>Actually the Banks' lived in East St, Newton. JB went to Avondale College because Auckland Grammar rejected his application. John Banks has a habit of giving out copies of his biography (which is how it appeared on my bookshelves) &ndash; I…</p>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						Yeah, that and passing the reptilian shape shifter test.
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						the threshold should be changed to 2.5% of party votes or 2 electorate seats.
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Hide was the lesser of two evils when faced with Dr Richard (“I love Korean dishes”) Worth, his predecessor. Who didn’t last very long as National MP, remember…?</q></p><p>Richard Worth was in Parliament for ~10 years. Rodney's been there ~14 years. It's more, but the difference ain't great.</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Voting a bit skewed in Epsom, lots of Labour/Greens voters (including me) voted for Richard Worth last election (that went well!)</q></p><p>At the 2008 general election in Epsom:</p><p>* Among Labour Party party voters, Rodney Hide was more popular than Richard Worth.</p><p>* More Maori Party party voters favoured Rodney…</p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						True, Andre, but Hide was the lesser of two evils when faced with Dr Richard ("I love Korean dishes") Worth, his predecessor. Who didn't last very long as National MP, remember...?
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				<title>mic weevil</title>
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						of course lowering the threshhold to 1 or 2% would eliminate the distortive electoral vortex emanating from Epsom
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				<title>mic weevil</title>
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						<p><q>lots of Labour/Greens voters (including me) voted for Richard Worth last election</q></p><p>it's pretty farcical when most national supporters are voting Act while green and labour supporters vote national, and yet MMP is still a billion* times better than FPP</p><p>*approximate figure</p>
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				<title>Ian Fish</title>
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						<p>Voting a bit skewed in Epsom, lots of Labour/Greens voters (including me) voted for Richard Worth last election (that went well!)<br />However the area I live in (between Mt Eden Rd &amp; Dominion Rd) there was a decent amount of party votes for Labour/Greens</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Wow, I can’t believe I’m actually going to be hoping for National to win an electoral seat!</q></p><p>If Richard Simpson were to get the nod, more so.</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p><q>please note I quite sometime ago declared my home to be a seperate republic, distinct from Epsom electorate</q></p><p>if you’ll please explain that to our ACT party representatives.</p><p>they will be visiting your premises some time this evening. please ignore the small black bag, it is not for your head,…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						Wow, I can't believe I'm actually going to be hoping for National to win an electoral seat!
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Epsom is an urban liberal seat and I wonder, is Banks an appropriate candidate for it?</q></p><p>Well, if they make the wrong choice those silly simple-minded voters get to make their own call in the time-honoured fashion &mdash; in Epsom as everywhere else.</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Epsom is an urban liberal seat and I wonder, is Banks an appropriate candidate for it? </q></p><p>Hide wasn't exactly a liberal candidate either.  He was a populist, which runs counter to the idea that Epsom is indeed "liberal".  It's demographically all over the place-old money, new money, middle class recent…</p>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						I hope that it is a democratic republic!!
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>Oh Epsom, what a clusterfuck you are.</q></p><p>I live in the electorate, which includes the liberal enclave of Parnell. We can't seem to outvote the blue rinse set just down the road. However, please note I quite sometime ago declared my home to be a seperate republic, distinct from Epsom…</p>
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						Yeah, I was talking about Franks' candidacy last time. I had kinda assumed he wouldn't be back.
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>Epsom is an urban liberal seat and I wonder, is Banks an appropriate candidate for it? Much will depend on who National eventually selects- someone like Simpson or Bhatnagar (city council experience already) will indicate that they lack confidence in their satellite party or its candidate.</p><p>Is it true some…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>One could also query the (I assume not to be repeated) selection of Stephen Franks to tilt at the winnable, liberal seat of Wellington Central.</q></p><p>Stephen Franks did not seek a nomination (for any party, so far as I know) this election. National has chosen diplomat <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/the-persian-candidate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paul Foster-Bell</a> as its…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Lange opposed Field’s selection? </q></p><p>Oh hell yes. And he <a href="http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2009/08/david-langes-expose-of-philip-fields-dodgy-political-finance.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">continued to publicly question Field's ethical fitness</a>.</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Son of sly-grogging backroom-abortionists,</p></blockquote><p>Avondale was quite teh place back in the day.</p>
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						<p><q>how did Quinn get in there?</q></p><p>One could also query the (I assume not to be repeated) selection of Stephen Franks to tilt at the winnable, liberal seat of Wellington Central.</p>
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						Lange opposed Field's selection? A pity they wouldn't listen to him. (Also, I think the assumption that only a feudal noble social authoritarian would suit was rather insulting to an electorate that had returned Lange seven times).
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q> The idea that all you need to get a National nomination is a well-connected daddy and a fat chequebook is as silly as the meme</q><br />I'm sure that's true Craig but, in your infinite wisdom and knowledge of the inner workings of that party, can you tell me ( honestly…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>In 1990, Taito Philip Field looked pretty damn meritorious on paper when he won the selection for Otara. How did that work out in the end?</q></p><p>Pretty much exactly how David Lange warned it would, sadly.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>(too soon?)</q></p><p>Slightly. :)</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Richard Simpson is the best of the candidates. However, his inconvenient habit of occasionally being swayed by facts will mean he'll last precisely one term as a National Party MP.</q></p><p>Most certainly a worthy successor to Christine Fletcher. But does he have the backing of the wider party though?</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Sure but this truth hasn't stopped Epsom voters before. The Crazy gang just seems to roll on , let's hope not for too long.</q></p><p>"Sure he's a crazy racist and not terribly smart besides, but at least he doesn't want to raise taxes!"</p>
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						<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8</a>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd question whether any power dependent on the slow-motion mass-suicide that is the ACT Party is worth having.</p></blockquote><p>Sure but this truth hasn't stopped Epsom voters before. The Crazy gang just seems to roll on , let's hope not for too long.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>you can't get arrested in the Labour Party unless you're a Maori lesbian union official who gaggles with the gays.</q></p><p>or an aspie<br />(too soon?)</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>If they win Epsom it will mean they will lose a coalition partner and possibly power. Oh Epsom, what a clusterfuck you are.</q></p><p><br />I'd question whether any power dependent on the slow-motion mass-suicide that is the ACT Party is worth having.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>So Craig, you mean they are actually selecting these jokers on their *merits*. That’s even more frightening.</q></p><p>I suspect we could run up a thoroughly non-partisan “dudes and dudettes, WTF were you thinking?” list of candidates and MPs who were hardly glittering jewels in the crown of parliamentary democracy.  (I…</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p><q>Yes</q></p><p>:0</p><p>surely you mean "colourful"? </p><p>not in a "maori way" of course</p>
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						<p><q>The more critical bio of Banksie is by Noel Harrison, “Banks: Behind the Mask”.</q></p><p>So John Banks is Batman now?   Well, he certainly comes across as someone written by Frank Miller...</p>
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						<p><q>a prerequisite of vanity publishing</q></p><p>I'm amazed at the low hurdle of notability needed for an NZ politician to get a published biography. I do wonder whether our paying almost double the overseas price for books is helping to subsidise this...</p><p>Also, the credibility of National's Epsom candidate will be…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Richard Simpson is the best of the candidates. However, his inconvenient habit of occasionally being swayed by facts will mean he'll last precisely one term as a National Party MP.
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						...and what an awesome coalition partner ACT would make this time around. Mr Burns, Mr Dairy, Mr Ego, and sundry nutters.
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Agreed. My impression is that all the candidates very much want to win the nomination, and are battling hard to do so.</p></blockquote><p>If they win Epsom it will mean they will lose a coalition partner and possibly power. Oh Epsom, what a clusterfuck you are.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Che, Banksie is incredibly interesting; one of the most interesting pollies in modern NZ history.</q></p><p>Yes.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Having been involved in more National Party candidate selections than you, Rich, I suspect you should leave the fantasy fiction to people who are good at it.</q></p><p>Agreed. My impression is that all the candidates very much want to win the nomination, and are battling hard to do so.</p>
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						<p><q>titled “<Name>: A Biography”</q></p><p>a prerequisite of vanity publishing</p>
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						<p><q>when did he become that interesting?</q></p><p>it's those 4.20am starts. A hemisphere out of touch, but hey.</p>
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p>Sorry, I should clarify – both biographies written by Paul Goldsmith are imaginatively titled “<Name>: A Biography”, not both bios of John Banks. The more critical bio of Banksie is by Noel Harrison, “Banks: Behind the Mask”.</p><p>L</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						So Craig, you mean they are actually selecting these jokers on their *merits*. That's even more frightening.
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p>Che, Banksie is <em>incredibly</em> interesting; one of the most interesting pollies in modern NZ history. Son of sly-grogging backroom-abortionists, a genuinely self-made man of strong moral convictions and remarkable character. Also bigoted, racist and intolerant but hey – you don’t have to be nice to be interesting.</p><p>L</p>
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						<p>genuine wtf moment: there are <em>two</em> banks biographies?</p><p>when did he become that interesting?</p>
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						<p><q>I suspect selection might come down to which candidate (or candidates father) makes the biggest contribution to National coffers.</q></p><p>Having been involved in more National Party candidate selections than you, Rich, I suspect you should leave the fantasy fiction to people who are good at it.</p>
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p>As well as authoring Brash’s biography (which I haven’t read), Paul Goldsmith is also the author of the more fawning of John Banks’ two biographies. Both are imaginatively titled “<Name>: A Biography”. </p><p>So that’ll be interesting.</p><p>L</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>However, I suspect they are all characters who are not seen as serious contenders by the real politicians of the National party. I suspect selection might come down to which candidate (or candidates father) makes the biggest contribution to National coffers.</p><p>I'm surprised Slater isn't running.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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