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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>This was in <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/66843502/new-zealand-hotel-prices-rise" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the paper today</a>:</p><p><q>...the average price New Zealanders paid for a hotel or motel room booked through its website jumped $7 to $146 last year.</p><p>The 5 per cent rise means prices rose at more than six times the rate of inflation, which stood at 0.8 per…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2015 15:29:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						I bet John Key works out on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153384639170397" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">one of these contraptions</a>. Mike Hosking too. Somehow I doubt it would work for Andrew Little.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:51:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Inexperience has nothing to do with it.</q></p><p>No, it doesn't.  I've said it before, and really wish I didn't have to repeat it, but there's still way too much FPP arrogance in both Labour and National.  Here's a reality check: We've had seven elections under MMP, and the "minor" parties…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 09:01:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Inexperience has nothing to do with it.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:30:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>Reality is biting back. <br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11405494" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Prime Minister, the dinner and the $25,000 donation</a></p><p><q>The PM has always maintained that he met Donghua Liu at a National Party fundraiser but would never say where. Today, the Weekend Herald can reveal that the fundraiser was actually a private dinner at Mr Liu's $4.75…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:14:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Yeah I get it, Labour is the new inexperienced party, how silly of me.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 13:23:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<a href="http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2015/02/the-greens-and-labour.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Great explanation</a> by a Green local body politician.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:46:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the doctrinaire cosying-up with National over the ISC</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11405398" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fran O'Sullivan approves</a>. Only the two largest parties are "grown-ups" and questioning authority is just not OK on Planet Key.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:03:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>[citation needed] I reckon.</q></p><p>Direct quotes from Clare Curran about 'white-anting' for example. Not going to trot out a list for you.</p><p><q>We have to work with each other, not against.</q></p><p>Quite. You'll recall one of the two parties in question suggested that before the election. It's the other one…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:01:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Labour because they see us as rivals for "their" rightful votes</q></p><p>[citation needed] I reckon. This is the sort of attitude does no-one any good. If the sniping continues we have little hope of ridding the country of the most corrupt Government we have seen in the history of NZ.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:49:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Slangs and arrows...</strong><br />...watch as language changes, as <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2015/feb/20/pute-de-merde-de-con-the-linguistics-of-spiral-slang" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">words are subducted and diminished or diverted.</a><br />one wonders what tongues of earth <br />will lap against alien ears and shores<br />pan-galactic gabble &amp; gobbledegook<br />a meat slanguage,...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:03:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>the Cohen issue</q><br />Heh...<br />a case of The Scottish Ploy?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 07:25:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>The poor handling of the Cohen issue and the doctrinaire cosying-up with National over the ISC, however, have reinforced my opinion that Labour are trying for the National-style top-down autocracy, but are hindered by deep-seated chronic incompetence.</q></p><p>Could it also be a symptom of Labour attempting to pander to "Waitakere…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2015 01:54:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q> doing what you are told by the hierarchy.</q></p><p>And that includes the rest of us, right? <strong>Kin</strong> g <strong>k</strong> e <strong>y</strong> !</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:31:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><em>That’ll help the grassroots morale…</em></p><p>Actually, I think it <em>will</em> help National activist's morale.  National is run like a business, with a hierarchical structure and a central cabal directing what happens.  Signing up to National means doing what you are told by the hierarchy.  They set the policy, the members…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:51:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> the LotO<br /><em> Its spelt Lotto </em> </q><br />Not short for the 'Lord of the Ring (O)' then?<br />;-  )</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>two nominated by the PM, and one nominated by the LotO. </q></p><p>Its spelt Lotto.<br />;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:26:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>John Key never went to school or Uni then I take it</q><br />Well he never paid for the privilege &ndash; so it doesn't really count &ndash; money makes everything real, didn't you get the memo?<br />;-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:08:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stever@cs.waikato.ac.nz</title>
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						<p><q>has educated himself </q>...from Milich</p><p>ha ha ha! Not</p><p>John Key never went to school or Uni then I take it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:02:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>you need odd numbers on a committee to avoid deadlock and thus couldn’t just make forward assumptions about how many parties would be in any future Parliament.</q></p><p>The way the law’s written does seem in some ways to be much more of an FPP-style, though.  I get why Andrew Little…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:55:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>It’s a little hard to know what underlay the comments from voters about the Greens being scary </q></p><p>It's not hard at all. That's exactly the narrative that National has been selling in the media and through it's puppets for the last 6 years. The only way around it would be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:49:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Why can’t they just make the committee bigger and have wider representation? It’s MMP after all.</q></p><p>Because <a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1996/0046/latest/DLM392268.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the law</a> says it's five members, being the PM, the Leader of the Opposition, two nominated by the PM, and one nominated by the LotO. It's not just a matter of casually re-drafting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:34:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>From the article you linked to...<br /><q>Milich remains impressed by Key. "Any guy who has come from a state house, has educated himself and made money has got to have a brain. John is a very clever man and has the memory of an elephant."</q><br />So, the "brain fades" really…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:40:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>    a genuine worry that Green policy was anti-business</p><p>A line the Nats pushed ruthlessly for several years, yes. Helpfully relayed by our feeble media.</q></p><p>Yup exactly. Again I don't believe the line myself but it is clear that a lot of people were genuinely worried. That Labour might chose to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:21:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I thought those last two quoted sentences were comedy gold ....
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>One Master of Reality &ndash; MR Key &ndash; has just <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/66392550/Gilmores-parliamentary-return-dashed-by-John-Key" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">slapped every National Party electorate committee member and volunteer in the face and spat on their contribution to democracy</a><br /><q>Gilmore was elected to the National party's Christchurch East electorate committee on Monday, apparently because there were not enough people at…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:41:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						If he wasn't who he is, Slater would have outed him last year.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>A line the Nats pushed ruthlessly for several years, yes. Helpfully relayed by our feeble media.</q></p><p>And there in itself is the problem. That rubs both ways if the media push the buttons.No matter the direction, it isn't helpful if it causes  bickering. And people here buy into it. They…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>a genuine worry that Green policy was anti-business</q></p><p>A line the Nats pushed ruthlessly for several years, yes. Helpfully relayed by our feeble media.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I have a feeling that's a different case, given that what the Speaker blurted was past tense.
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						This was discussed earlier in the thread so it's worth noting that a certain person is back in court &mdash; the NZH headline reads, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11404727" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Prominent New Zealander charged with indecent assault loses name suppression</a>. But that's not quite true as the judge concealed his identity for another month to allow him…
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>So it boils down to a couple of common threads: “PC wankers” and “anti-business Communists”. Or to compress it into one common thread, “cultural Marxism”. Did any of them relate from actual experiences, or is it a reflection of what they get from media?</q><br />As a greenie at heart I'd…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>What did these voters think the Greens would do, confiscate their houses and cars?</q></p><p>The response I got when asking the question was they were deeply worried about what The Greens would do to “business” and in particular farming. It wasn’t a response that came from lack of thought but…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>I never really pursued it too much. I can recall comments like, flakey, tree-huggers, all about the trees and not about business and people, going to put huge costs on people, unrealistic, no economic expertise, wanting everying to have composting toilets.</q></p><p>So it boils down to a couple of common…</p>
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						<p><q>From what I can make of it, for most of that time the block lay with the unpaid volunteer who had what was a pretty dumb idea in the first place., Chris Matthews.</q></p><p>I dunno if that makes it any better though &ndash; Little should have had a campaign manager…</p>
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						<p><q>What did these voters think the Greens would do, confiscate their houses and cars?</q></p><p>I never really pursued it too much.  I can recall comments like, flakey, tree-huggers, all about the trees and not about business and people, going to put huge costs on people, unrealistic, no economic expertise, wanting…</p>
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						<p><q>Shearer does have the background for the role, more so than anyone in the Green caucus. But it does breach an informal (albeit fairly recent) convention, so failing to tell the Greens is either provocative or stupidly clumsy.</q></p><p><em>Is</em> it an informal convention?</p><p>As I read [[http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1996/0046/latest/whole.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_intelligence_resel_25_a&amp;p=1#DLM392268|section 7 of the Intelligence…</p>
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						<p><q>many of the voters I spoke to really, really, didn’t want the Greens in government, and that in turn became another negative for Labour in their minds, because Labour would likely form a coalition with the Greens.</q></p><p>What did these voters think the Greens would do, confiscate their houses and…</p>
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						<p><q>But I'm getting just a wee bit impatient with folks elsewhere saying it isn't a legit story at all. It actually is a useful thing when journalists point out when our political lords and masters don't quite practice what they preach &mdash; and legislate.</q></p><p>In my experience it tends to…</p>
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						Regarding Labour and the Greens… one of the things I heard many times during the last election, as I stood on doorsteps in both rural and urban areas, was that people didn’t like the thought that if they voted Labour, they would also get the Greens.  The typical line I…
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						<p><q>Still, I’m sure we’ll all be taking the highest of high roads and refraining from any further comment on Eminem’s publishers suing National for breach of copyright. After all, it’s pretty trivial in the great scheme of things, right?</q></p><p>Depends on how much money ends up getting involved. Other than…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>On the other hand, this isn’t really a big story </q></p><p>No it isn't &mdash; and I certainly can't disagree with anyone that Gower would benefit enormously from switching to decaf and cutting sugar out of his diet.  But I'm getting just a wee bit impatient with folks elsewhere saying it…</p>
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						<p><q>The passage of time, some four months, over the Cohen invoice is quite damming.</q></p><p>From what I can make of it, for most of that time the block lay with the unpaid volunteer who had what was a pretty dumb idea in the first place., Chris Matthews.</p><p>Cohen wrote to…</p>
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						<p>The Cohen payment trainwreck and the Shearer appointment (though he is likely the most qualified choice) indicate the tipping point looks likely sometime late in 2017, perhaps even well into 2018.</p><p>Where one is going to plead in the court of equity one needs to have clean hands.</p><p>The passage…</p>
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						<q>A barrel of laughs</q>
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						<p><q>Do the Greens think they could get control of the treasury benches without Labour?.</q></p><p>No, they don't. But they don't pretend to either, whereas Labour still thinks it's the big dog it once was, instead of the lost puppy it has become. Does Labour seriously think they could get control…</p>
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						<p><q>He has more to gain politically by criticising from outside the committee, unbound by its strict confidentiality.</q></p><p>Spot on.</p>
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						<p><q>and the hate site (because it was just horrible, and really off-topic).</q></p><p>Sorry.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I was thinking of a sack of hammers...<br />:- )</q></p><p>I was thinking "A barrel of laughs".</p>
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						<p><q> a box of loose bedsprings</q><br />I was thinking of a sack of hammers...<br />:-  )</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Why can’t they just make the committee bigger and have wider representation?</q></p><p>Bigger committees don't necessarily get more done. Also it is a security committee so it requires a certain level of adulthood (something rarer than you might hope in parliament).</p>
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						<p>I just relised I had said... "who would they like to put up and is he a better choice that Shearer?"<br />I meant to say "who would they like to put up and <strong>are they</strong> a better choice that Shearer?"<br />Ooops.</p>
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						<p><q>I believe they had Metiria Turei in mind. $2000 jacket vs $50,000 forgotten bank account.</q></p><p>She must have some unpaid parking fines or something? no doubt National will tell us at some point.</p>
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						<p><q>I noticed though that Winston wasn’t kicking up a stink about not being chosen</q></p><p>He has more to gain politically by criticising from outside the committee, unbound by its strict confidentiality.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>who would they like to put up and is he a better choice that Shearer? </q></p><p>I believe they had Metiria Turei in mind. $2000 jacket vs $50,000 forgotten bank account.</p>
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						<p><q>I guess to some voters/party members it looks 'tough' and 'manly'.</q></p><p>The lack of support for Labour from the Greens has been growing since before the last election and the snide attacks from their supporters do nothing to heal that rift.<br />I wouldn't consider a snub from Labour as being…</p>
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						Key increasingly resembles one of Uri Geller's spoons. Joyce is more closely identified with a box of loose bedsprings.
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						Exactly. If I had the choice of just one other I'd still pick Shearer (who has been there before as has Norman but he is leaving so that puts him out) . The fact that National had 3 from themselves and Labour got to choose one from all of the…
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						I guess to some voters/party members it looks 'tough' and 'manly'.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Why can't they just make the committee bigger and have wider representation? It's MMP after all.
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						This move sidelined NZ First as well. Seems likely to be just the usual foot-in-mouth stupidity which I was hoping Labour might have gotten over by now. Lively discussion on <a href="https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/same-as-it-ever-was/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Danyl's post about it</a>.
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						<p><q>I can see the reasoning on the latter part.</q></p><p>I'm not saying I believe the first part to be true just that I suspect a goodly portion of the Labour party are looking for anyone to blame for their failures other than themselves ... the relationship with The Greens is…</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11403490" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Andrew Little in the Herald</a></p><p><br /><q>Mr Little said Dr Norman's decision to step down as leader and scale back his political involvement was a factor in his decision. Potential future coalition arrangements also had a part: "The risk is, of course, as we're trying to build the coalition, if I…</q></p>
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						<q>I suspect it’s two fold. First they don’t feel that the close relationship with The Greens has helped them win votes for themselves and it certainly hasn’t been the magic bullet to kill NACT. Second with the loss of Russel Norman it’s more difficult to find someone reasonable/respectable/serious enough –…</q>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Not sure if that’s smart but I expect it will occur</q><br />One wonders how they'd hope to form a coalition then &ndash; gambling on an outright victory would seem to me to be a mug's game in the current political climate...</p><p>I'd have thought <a href="https://www.greens.org.nz/ourpeople/kennedy-graham-mp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kennedy Graham</a> would have been a…</p>
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						<p><q>What are they thinking?</q></p><p>I suspect it's two fold. First they don't feel that the close relationship with The Greens has helped them win votes for themselves and it certainly hasn't been the magic bullet to kill NACT. Second with the loss of Russel Norman it's more difficult to find…</p>
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						<p><q>their ‘just-the-two-us’ approach</q></p><p>That’s it, sho’ nuff. They hear the crystal raindrops fall on the window down the hall.<br /><em>Just the two of us<br />Building castles in the sky.</em></p>
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						<p><q> but only at that time where Labour present as a credible opposition.</q><br />Something they have set back considerably with their 'just-the-two-us' approach to the Intelligence Review Committee (as Sacha mentioned above) &ndash; sidelining the Greens looks suspicious as well as niggardly.<br />What are they thinking?</p>
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						Sky City at their “last AGM” described the Convention Centre deal as having "nailed it" &ndash; the form of the "it" is still percolating &ndash; Sky have the TVNZ site which they have coveted for quite sometime – my question is what is the "real" next step or series of…
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						<p><q>There is an error in perception here. Most reasonable people think Key and his team are acting to make the best deals for the country. That is very obviously a false perception.</q></p><p>Key also appeals to the ‘temporarily embarrassed millionaire’ in a lot of us. It's a pattern also seen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:09:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Still relevant: Matt Nippert's 2013 story A licence to print money:</p><p>    How good was SkyCity's winnings from that deal? An Australian casino consultant believes the Government significantly undervalued the gambling concessions it finally granted to SkyCity.</p><p>    The Government's own officials consistently raised concerns as far back as 2010 that the…</q></p>
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						Well, you presumably want it to actually get there with the crew alive at the far end, and with enough oxygen, energy, water and food (or the means to make them) to be able to live for a few years (or at least weeks) while the means to retrieve them…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:57:20 +1300</pubDate>
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						That said, it's hard to see the point of sending people there. We'd probably get a lot more exploration done with the same money spent on more rovers.
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						<p><q> The Boeing 787 cost $30 billion to develop, and it gets you to California. Subsonically</q></p><p>Sure, but that's quite a different thing. Flying millions of people around the world safely has quite different economics to sending a couple of crazy buggers on one mission.</p>
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						<p>I was kinda hoping that <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11403359" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this was referring to one of our leading politicians</a>.</p><p>(BTW, USD6 billion will not get anyone to Mars. The Boeing 787 cost $30 billion to develop, and it gets you to California. Subsonically).</p>
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						<p><q>Hopefully the “Power of Positive Thinking” will win in the end. ;-)</q></p><p>Hopefully the power of positive <em>doing</em> would have something to do with it.  I doubt positive thinking is much more effective than negative thinking. :)</p>
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						<p><q>The knockout blow came when Wishart drank the fundy Kool-Aid around 15 years ago</q></p><p>Yes, a shame because up until that point he was an atheist and a damned good investigative journalist, if a little prone to subjecivism. He seemed to change when he met his current wife while researching…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:14:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I hate to sound cynical, but I've seen (and made) any number of similar optimistic statements over the past few years about how this administration surely must crumble now,</q></p><p>Hopefully the "Power of Positive Thinking" will win in the end. ;-)</p>
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						<p><q>the best chance is probably for a credible opposition to present itself as a credible alternative</q></p><p>yes. which is not helped by tired antics <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/66278519/Governments-spy-review-deal-angers-Greens" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">like this</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>Wishart did quite a good job of exposing corruption in the banking industry in the eighty’s, Fay Richwhite et al, but these people ruin their own credibility with their over the top rhetoric and, sometimes, outright defamation. No wonder they hide behind anonymity.</q></p><p>The knockout blow came when Wishart drank…</p>
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						<p><q>@DeepRed:  Still, I do think SkyCity could be a tipping point<br />@Steve Barnes: It may well be but Sabin will be the final nail in the coffin.</q></p><p>I hate to sound cynical, but I've seen (and made) any number of similar optimistic statements over the past few years about how…</p>
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						<p>On a lighter note, headline in early online Herald...<br /><strong>Kiwi fugitives Simone Wright and Paula Bennett arrested in Australia</strong><br />Now corrected, or is it a cover-up?.<br />:-)</p>
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						<p><q>Lauda Finem comes across as a bit like an Alex Jones/InfoWars site for legal types.</q></p><p>Indeed, there seem to be connections to Ian Wishart and the main editor is, apparently, one  Dermot Nottingham who exposed the Odometer fraud way back. Howling at the Moon, Wishart's publishing company, published a book…</p>
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						<p>Lauda Finem comes across as a bit like an Alex Jones/InfoWars site for legal types.</p><p><q>I’m fairly convinced that we’ll only get rid of the Nats when either we have a fairly massive economic crash that hits the average mortgage payer, or Key gives up and gets replaced by someone…</q></p>
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						<p><q>I find it quite telling that they and Slater, have turned on Key &amp;co</q></p><p>He has never been right-leaning enough for some of the rabid Actoids. Atilla might please em.</p>
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						<p><q>They are apparently nasty local miscreants rather like Slater. Take anything they say with a sack of salt. Note that they may also be breaching suppression, which could put Russell at risk here.</q></p><p>Yeah, sorry, I deleted the the links to LF (which potentially put me in breach of a…</p>
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						<p><q>Now that is a real low down hate attack site if ever I saw one, nasty.</q></p><p>Sure is. But Lauda Finem have gone to some trouble to be as anonymous as they can &ndash; it almost invites this sort of rejoinder. LF doesn't appear to keen on Slater most of…</p>
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						<p><q>Oooh, I found  </q></p><p>Now that is a real low down hate attack site if ever I saw one, nasty.<br />I cannot vouch for Lauda Finem but the site you linked to seems like an attack on any credibility they may have. It would seem, however that Lauda Finem have links…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:52:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>why? other threads for that topic.</q></p><p>point me to one.</p>
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						<p><q>So, on to Sabin</q></p><p>why? other threads for that topic.</p>
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						They are apparently nasty local miscreants rather like Slater. Take anything they say with a sack of salt. Note that they may also be breaching suppression, which could put Russell at risk here.
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						<p>I'm fairly convinced that we'll only get rid of the Nats when either we have a fairly massive economic crash that hits the average mortgage payer, or Key gives up and gets replaced by someone a lot less user friendly.</p><p>The latter might happen if Key gets niggled enough -…</p>
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						<p><q>Who is Lauda Finem ? Does anyone know?</q></p><p>Oooh, I found [redacted]</p>
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						<p><q>he is not alone in thinking the worst.</q></p><p>Who is <em>Lauda Finem</em> ? Does anyone know?</p>
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						Anyone who's had to deal with him on transport matters is unsurprised by his lies. He couldn't lie straight in bed, that man.
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						<p>So, on to Sabin…<br /><q>The same thing is happening with the Sabin scandal. Key’s line is that Helen Clark didn’t stand down as Prime Minister during ‘painter-gate’, </q><br />The disingenuous “Blame Labour” cry is wearing a little thin, It comes up with such regularity it is like the boy who cried…</p>
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						<p>What an absolute liar Joyce is , a complete and utter liar. His project was  much more expensive than the original tunnel project  approved under labour.<br /> Thats because he made it  wider and connected to the City bound lanes.</p><p>His story about a shorter tunnel is  nonsense, it starts  after…</p>
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						<p>Still relevant: Matt Nippert's 2013 story <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8970513/A-licence-to-print-money" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">A licence to print money</a>:</p><p><q>How good was SkyCity's winnings from that deal? An Australian casino consultant believes the Government significantly undervalued the gambling concessions it finally granted to SkyCity.</p><p>The Government's own officials consistently raised concerns as far back as 2010 that the…</q></p>
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						<p><q>As I understood it Key didn’t even bother to read it out in Parliament – just handed it to the Opposition and then got straight into the extra time he now had for his killer new comedy material – written as Russell points out – on our dollar!</q></p><p>It really…</p>
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						<p><strong>a weak of it...</strong><br /><q>It’s a week since the Prime Minister’s statement, the annual opening act of Parliamentary politics, when the leader traditionally sets out the governing party’s plan for the year.</q><br />As I understood it Key didn't even bother to read it out in Parliament &ndash; just handed it…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>The Auckland Eyesore &ndash; <br />all hail <strong>StyeCity</strong>...</p><p>How perfect for the Suppurating City<br />if you 'sup' with the devil <br />you get back  'pus'!</p>
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						<p>Thanks for doing the yards on this backstory Russell. It seems Key's teflon stays intact precisely because of the copious amount of muck it has to deflect. It appears to actually convert new muck into more teflon.</p><p>In other words, the more BS he promulgates, the harder it is to…</p>
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						<p><q>I've been busy!</q></p><p>Fair enough and I hope it is all going well for you.</p>
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						<p><q>Welcome back Russell. I feared for a while you had been swallowed by some middle class monster, what with your house now being worth more than a million bucks.</q></p><p>I've been busy!</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><strong>Back to life, back to reality</strong><br />Welcome back Russell. I feared for a while you had been swallowed by some middle class monster, what with your house now being worth more than a million bucks.<br />I was imagining a headline on Kiwiblog... "Millionaire Brown quits the Loony Left"<br />;-)</p><p>All…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:56:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>What gets me is how they live with themselves.</q></p><p>First, create the perception that you deserve better and Nactional will deliver. <br />Then create the perception that not everyone is equal.<br />Then create laws to make money the most valued commodity<br />Then make sure to protect those who are not struggling…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:44:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p>The reality distortion is shameless and deplorable but enormously effective. Invitations to be seen or heard on media where the fantasies might be challenged are simply declined. It is all too easy to mislead most of the people most of the time.<br />What gets me is how they live with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:16:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:16:14 +1300</pubDate>
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