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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Heads up!</strong><br /><q>Anyone check the <a href="http://vimeo.com/43038579" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">invisible helmet</a> out???</q><br />Someone linked to it last year, but still one to keep telling people about I reckon.<br />I also imagine it could help with general eldercare &ndash; especially for falls, maybe a hip version as well &ndash; they seem to be getting small…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:24:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						Anyone check the <a href="http://vimeo.com/43038579 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> invisible helmet out???</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:07:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>trains that run up to 600km/h! Imagine how cool it would be to have trains like that running Auckland to Wellington and Picton to Invercargill!</q></p><p>I think we'd settle for trains that could run at 100km/h between those centres! Right now it's not even 50km/h average between Auckland and Wellington.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:34:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p>Note to whoever is currently Minister for Buggering Up Auckland Transport:</p><p>This is what cities aspiring to be great, international cities, or at least liveable cities do: Invest huge amounts of money in public transport. Subway line, in the pictured case.</p><p>Slogan: "The people's subway,  the people build, build a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:59:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>a projected $60 billion transport spend for the region over the decades to 2040</q></p><p>my brain has gone on strike but maybe someone else can link to Transport Blog comparing that gold-plated wish list with the cheaper and better Congestion Free Network they developed with GenZero.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:22:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>The only place in NZ I can find that's carrying any MIPS helmets is Burke's Cycles, and they only have a single POC model.</q></p><p>Strolling past iRide in Thorndon on Saturday, and I saw a couple in the window. Went in and had a look and seemed to be two…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:56:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>A fairly damning graphic showing how much Auckland is not spending on cycle infrastructure.</q></p><p>All the more damning in the face of a projected $60 <strong>billion</strong> transport spend for the region over the decades to 2040.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:36:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						A fairly damning graphic showing how much Auckland is <em>not</em> spending on cycle infrastructure.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:51:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Yes, makes sense, now I think about it. I can easily go the speed limit or more just on pedal power &ndash; downhill. </p><p>If I was doing that on the flat, with only light pedaling, I'd expect the cops to stop me and check out the bike. But how they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:32:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>. IIRC there is an upper speed limit for powered bikes as well as power limitations </q></p><p>Nope, 300W electric and that's it: <a href="http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/your/low-powered.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/your/low-powered.html</a> If you've got more than 300W or an infernal combustion engine, but are limited to 50kph you mjight have a moped rather than a motorbike, but either…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:23:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I would need to take at least one day off work which costs money</q></p><p>I've had pretty good success over the years for getting off unjust fines just by writing a letter. If there's anything doubtful at all in there, it seems like they would rather not have a court…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:03:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I guess a shaft drive fits that definition. It’s geared.</q></p><p>That would be something you'd need to discuss with the officer on the spot. Given the ignorance of many officers about bicycle-related laws I personally would accept the ticket and decide whether to pay it or fight it depending on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:40:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>through a belt, chain or gears.</q></p><p>I guess a shaft drive fits that definition. It's geared.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:24:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Seems stupid, if its really a law at all?</q></p><p>My mistake, the current rule is purely based on wheel size and human power. Under 355mm it’s a toy, over that it’s a bicycle. See <a href="http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/traffic-control-devices-manual/definitions.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">traffic control definitions</a> for example. Australia and other countries generally use something like “A bicycle is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:50:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p><q><em>a chain drive are in the law directly,</em></p><p>No shaft drives allowed?? Harsh! Or antiquated, more likely.</q></p><p>Or how about a rubber belt instead of chain?  <br />I recall  ~40 years ago I was riding a tricycle with pedals directly attached to the from wheel-hub… and the same is still available…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:00:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>Is there any evidence that mechanically unsound bikes/accessories contribute to cyclist injury stats significantly?</q></p><p>Quite. What would be the point?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:50:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<a href="http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Good media commentary here</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:15:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Is there any evidence that mechanically unsound bikes/accessories contribute to cyclist injury stats significantly?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:57:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						This whole pushing responsibility back on cyclists to be safer is bullshit. Most cycling injuries and deaths are caused by drivers.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:40:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I doubt a WOF would be anywhere near $150, it's only $30 for my car. Maybe you're thinking of the fine for not having one. Registration could be anything at all, though, since it's an arbitrary tax. I hate the whole thought of it, the idea of some parko dick…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:33:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Aren’t bikes officially supposed to have bells and mudguards, etc?</q></p><p>A bell, reflectors, at least one brake, a chain drive are in the law directly, and by implication handlebars since it’s an offense not to hold onto them. The rest is optional including the frame and seat.</p><p>The whole “Bike…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:04:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Surely one person's unsafe cycle is another's unicycle/fixie/mountain bike?</p><p>Aren't bikes officially supposed to have bells and mudguards, etc?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:34:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Hamburg knows a thing or two about vision. First it <a href="http://power-to-the-people.net/2013/09/hamburg-citizens-vote-to-buy-back-energy-grid/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">buys back its electricity grid</a>, now it's looking at a <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=11187515" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">car-free CBD</a>.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:21:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>    <br /><em>I suspect that it rapidly becomes unwieldy and unmanageable when applied to even a moderately-sized population.</em></p><p>And yet we manage it with cars.</q></p><p>We've been doing it for many decades, back to when the number of automobiles was minuscule. The infrastructure in support has grown as the vehicle population has…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:49:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I suspect that it rapidly becomes unwieldy and unmanageable when applied to even a moderately-sized population. </q></p><p>I'm sure it could be done. It just seems like overkill until there is actually a serious problem with poorly maintained bikes on the road. Police can and do enforce the basic safety laws…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:24:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>I suspect that it rapidly becomes unwieldy and unmanageable when applied to even a moderately-sized population.</q></p><p>And yet we manage it with cars.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Bicycle registration is also probably a good idea in a place where bike theft is a massive problem</q></p><p>It's a problem quite out of control in Stockholm, from what I've read, and they don't have bicycle registration. I suspect that it rapidly becomes unwieldy and unmanageable when applied to even…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:33:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>All the above doesn’t mean all old helmets will be perfect, it’s possible there will be cracks and flaws you can’t see. But the difference in safety between a new helmet and an old (second-hand) one is likely to be negligible.</q></p><p>If you could provide any evidence for that, I’d…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:03:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						Manufacturers stated life-span for helmets is 3-4 years. While I suspect this is probably a little on the short side the reasoning behind this is real.  The foam inside helmets does become brittle and is not immune to certain types of spray solvents/propellants, regardless of the state of the shell.…
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Yet Davis is full of cyclists because the city is designed to allow cyclists safe and convenient routes.</q></p><p>That's a key thing. In most of NZ, especially in Auckland, cycling is enough of a hassle (and game of Russian roulette) that requiring and enforcing a WoF requirement for bicycles would…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>a WOF for bicycles is interesting, but I don’t think it would fly. It would make cycling considerably more costly, and they’d be giving tickets to children all the time. Way to kill cycling off.</q></p><p>Far from it. In Davis, CA all cycles had to be registered. And cycle cops…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> never, never, never buy a second hand helmet</q></p><p>Ok I have to address this because it is a failure to understand how bicycle helmets are constructed and worse it leads to the belief that cycle helmets can protect from all kinds of impact.</p><p>This statement is absolutely true for motorcycle…</p>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>The idea of a WOF for bicycles is interesting, but I don’t think it would fly. It would make cycling considerably more costly, and they’d be giving tickets to children all the time. Way to kill cycling off.</q></p><p>There's at least one bike shop in Wellington that runs bike-maintenance courses.…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I am not sure about much safer you are.</q></p><p>Completely anecdotally I can say that since I got much brighter lights, both front and rear, I’ve noticed vehicles giving me a wider berth and drivers noticing me from greater distances (when they are ahead and possibly going to pull out…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>You can’t sell a car without working lights, but you can sell a bike in that condition.</q></p><p>Can I put this “must have a helmet at sale” idea to bed by saying that statement is utterly false. You can sell a car in any condition whatsoever. You can sell it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:13:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I assume the Waterview extension will also include more cycle lanes beside the motorway onwards towards Helensville.</q></p><p>Considering the money going into that intersection, I bloody hope the cycleway gets some look in. Ideally, since they're remodeling the entire thing, the cycleway would continue beside the motorway all the way…</p>
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						I suspect the Oily one's antipathy cycling has something to do with <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5481825/Labour-MP-beats-blogger-in-cycle-challenge" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:30:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						The only place in NZ I can find that's carrying any MIPS helmets is <a href="http://www.burkescycles.co.nz/prod/pc10502_.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Burke's Cycles</a>, and they only have a single POC model. Looks like people get them in the from the US.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>give a supplier some free publicity</q></p><p>I couldn't find anything either &ndash; I failed at intertubes</p>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						Hi Gaz, care to give a supplier some free publicity? my googleness failed me on finding any NZ suppliers.
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						Probably a good thing &ndash; can you imagine the awful wheezing sound that would emanate from said blubberhole after even the least arduous ascent?
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				<title>Moz</title>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Not surprisingly, the Oily One takes an <a href="http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/20730241/maggot-comments-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-safety-campaigner/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">unreconstructed Social Darwinist</a> view on cyclists, as reported by the editor of the Dog & Lemon Guide. Neither is it surprising that Oily's <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2010/03/sounds-like-a-deal-to-me/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">favourite vehicle</a> is the late and unlamented Hummer.
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						I go that way all the time as well – when leaving the NWC my preferred approach is either to cross the offramp and sneak down the footpath on the western side and cross Great North Road at the lights (as a pedestrian generally), or more conveniently to cross St…
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				<title>Su Yin Khoo</title>
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						<p>I am glad that my crash has been logged by NZTA (I am the Williamson Ave/Mackelvie St marker). <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ksuyin/sets/72157633674680342/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Photos of crash aftermath</a> – nothing gory but ouchies.</p><p>I see that there's another one further down from me which suggests that drivers aren't stopping at the stop signs. I hate cycling downhill…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>We can’t put traffic lights at every intersection just to give cyclists priority.</q></p><p>No we can't. </p><p>But because we can't fix ALL the intersections is not a reason to not fix the ones we can and fix the ones with the most problems.</p><p>And I'd probably say that it wouldn't…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>But bikes could be separated temporally fairly easily by giving bikes a time of their own to cross the intersection. Much the same way we allow pedestrians to cross intersections at a different time from cars.</p><p>A bike button at the intersection that gave bikes a 10 second “lead” on…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:42:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>But bikes could be separated temporally fairly easily by giving bikes a time of their own to cross the intersection. Much the same way we allow pedestrians to cross intersections at a different time from cars.</p><p>A bike button at the intersection that gave bikes a 10 second “lead” on…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:34:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>This is good: the Herald’s new(ish) data journalist Harkanwal Hothi has mapped recorded NZ cycling crashes 2008-2012.</q></p><p>One thing obvious from that map, and no real surprise, is that like most car accidents, it's mostly about intersections.</p><p>To some degree bike lanes along roads have little impact on the safety…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>Submitted these two today:<br /><q><br />ACC<br />PO Box 242<br />Wellington 6140</p><p>Attn: Claims information, OIA request</p><p>To whom it may concern:</p><p>I am writing to request information held by ACC on collisions involving pedestrians and/or bicycles for the most recent five-year period for which records are available.</p><p>Specifically, please advise for…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:03:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gaz Tayler</title>
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						There are currently a couple of options for MIPS helmets in NZ, the TSG Kraken+ from $189 or the POC Trabec MIPS from $340. Scott-Bikes have announced the Stego, which uses MIPS and they also have the Lin from last year, though I can't find any record if they are…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:01:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						This is good: the Herald’s new(ish) data journalist Harkanwal Singh has <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11186764" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">mapped recorded NZ cycling crashes 2008-2012</a>.
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>That article is long but a great read for anyone wearing a cycle helmet.</q></p><p>Bicycling.com article was quite interesting to read. Also expensive, am about to order a couple of new helmets, despite my current helmet being nearly new. I like my brain!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:52:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I’m allowed to drive in the right hand lane of the motorway at 80k.</q></p><p>Actually, technically, no you're not. It's not enforced, but it's against <a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303041.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the law</a> to use the right-hand lane if you are not travelling at or above the speed of the traffic in the lanes to your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:11:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Why then are drivers, who are also in charge of a lethal weapon, not asked to take responsibility.</q></p><p>Because drivers are a very large constituency and they have well-funded advocacy groups.</p><p>Earlier posters noted the difference  in attitudes 100 years ago and how the street has been transformed in favour…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> quite hostile to proposals that cyclists should take more responsibility</q></p><p>Rightly so. In NZ we take the attitude that the person with the gun is responsible for not shooting his/her mates while hunting.</p><p>Why then are drivers, who are also in charge of a lethal weapon, not asked to take…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:46:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<p>Some thoughts about <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SIDSY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SIDSY or SMIDSY</a>:</p><p>Perception is constructive and selective (as repeated in Psychology 101) </p><p>In broad terms we see what we want to see.  More accurately put, we extract and make use of those parts of vision that are important or of interest to us.  Two well used…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:18:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Thanks Gaz for the link. <a href="http://www.bicycling.com/senseless/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">That article</a> is long but a great read for anyone wearing a cycle helmet.</p><p>Personally I don't think we should have a helmet law, the stats are compelling.</p><p>But equally I strongly believe wearing a helmet is a hell of a good idea. That article…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>but you would now be proposing that the impossibility of avoiding a collision occasioned by no bad behaviour of my own be indisputably my fault.</q></p><p>Yes, as (what I think is very powerful) the latest driving ad campaign for taking care whilst driving shows, all people on our roads can…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>If a bike hits a pedestrian then it was not safe.</q></p><p>Too blunt. My sole cyclist/pedestrian incident occurred when a pedestrian stepped out in front of me a car length ahead, from between parked cars. Snapped my headset, gave me whiplash (my head got forced backwards), and was utterly, unarguably…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:51:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gaz Tayler</title>
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						I'm glad to see this blog has spurred on great conversations and thoughts. It's disappointing that Auckland Council in both it's guises, as Auckland Council and Auckland Transport has done a poor job of following up on their own research and recommendations, all I can say is lobby both organisations…
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						I spy that Jeremy Clarkson is being <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2014/jan/13/jeremy-clarkson-cyclists-taking-the-lane" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a plonker</a> again. I wish someone would buy a Paddington bear and stuff it down his throat until he chokes to death on it. It would be such a deliciously ironic end. The writer notes the British also have little idea of what…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:22:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p>In a spirit of pointing out good things:</p><p>I heard recently that there's at least one school in Wellington (in Lyle bay somewhere, I think) that has put in cycle-lanes around the inside of the perimeter of the school so that new riders can practice riding their bikes without having…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 08:21:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ray Gilbert</title>
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						<p><q>Mt Roskill has 7-8 kms of off road cycle paths and roads have been engineered around local schools making them safer for children to walk to.</q></p><p>It's also worth noting that the new road upgrades around the State Highway 16 expansion and the suburban links  to New Lynn have off…</p>
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				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
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						I've just recently obtained a bike again, not ridden in half a lifetime &ndash; and as with Lee M above I do my best to avoid roads.  This is easily done in Tawa as they've constructed a cycle trail (well, almost finished anyway), where you can ride from Takapu Rd…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>And here's something the Council is <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11185831" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">responsible for</a>, not Auckland Transport:</p><p><q>"We can't just keep talking about solving our core transport projects &ndash; we need action," said Mr Barnett.</p><p>His comments come more than three years after Mayor Len Brown promised to investigate safer cycling for CBD streets.</p><p>But it took…</q></p>
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						<p><q>This part of Beach Rd is my usual route home and the surface here is pretty awful.</q></p><p>Might be worth asking for an official report from AT about what maintenance levels they're applying to such a truck-heavy part of the network.</p>
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						I'm riding to and from work these days and completely avoiding roads where I can, other than to cross them. The worst part is the morning of rubbish collection where the path is littered (arf) with green wheelie bins, but other than that it's a slow, pleasurable ride in. Slow…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:28:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>For example a danger spot near me seems to be the over bridge from St Lukes Rd to MoTaT. If you want to cross the motorway to go left ( Western Springs College & Pasadena + other schools) you can’t. You have to cross the pedestrian crossing and walk down the…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:34:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>Would be cool if #BDONZ put on some bike parking facilities </q></p><p>Wearing my elected rep hat &ndash; learning that BDO was going in at Western Springs I immediately asked officers to require the promoter to provide lots of bike parking. For obvious reasons its such a brilliant location to bike…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:09:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>It turns out that Mt Roskill has used the local schools as a safe zone already.</p><p>“Mt Roskill has 7-8 kms of off road cycle paths and roads have been engineered around local schools making them safer for children to walk to. His goal is for every child in Mt…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:37:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>I have cycled around Auckland for 30 years and even using cycle lanes, tracks and lesser used roads where possible it is getting worse out there and not better.</p><p>There are clearly choke points around the city that need special attention like the Parnell Rise.  Cycle Action have [[http://caa.org.nz/key-projects/l|a list…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:09:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						From that article about the Chamber of Commerce favouring sorting out Stanley St because it benefits trucks, NZ Herald journo Martin Johnston stars in a 5 min clip about being a <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&amp;gallery_id=132459&amp;gal_objectid=11185644" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">commuter cyclist</a>, including some interesting head-cam shots.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:18:32 +1300</pubDate>
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						Thanks for the update.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:14:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jon Briggs</title>
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						Actually, not relevant.  I rode home along Stanely St tonight and the road has been recently surfaced and is flat.  The end of Beach Rd heading into Stanely St on the other hand is a mess.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:08:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>I suspect that an element of motorist hostility to cyclists is caused by the view that "It is against the natural order for anything to go faster than a car at any time" (especially if the car is stuck in traffic).</p><p>"Roads were not built for cars" appeared  in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:08:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Good on Michael Barnett and the Auckland Chamber of Commerce for <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11185644" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">speaking up</a>:</p><p><q>"Part of Auckland being an international city is how efficiently and safely we move people, goods and services around the city.</p><p>"Over the past five years there have been too many cycle deaths, showing a need for a…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:47:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p><q> Nearly all this social transit space has now been lost to highly structured motorised vehicle channels, and for decades now we’ve been designing stuff that’s widely spread ages apart from everything else, merely (and ironically) to accomodate people’s ability to drive between them.</q></p><p>And indeed the concept of jaywalking, which…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:33:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Applaud your reasoning. :)<br />#envykills</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:07:33 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>It really is seconds people are complaining about.</q></p><p>But they're really stressful seconds, which means they shorten the motorist's life as well as wasting their time. Add that to the health cost of driving and the motorist may well be losing three times that directly lost time. Counter that with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:21:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> they’ve maybe been doing half that speed</q></p><p>Even then, assuming 15 kph (which is really slow), waiting a full minute behind the pack will mean you travel 583m less than you would have had you been traveling 50 kph.</p><p>Your journey would be 42 seconds longer. That does assume you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:43:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the world doesn’t revolve around the maintenance of the highest possible speed of cars</q></p><p>Sacrilege to the ears of traffic engineers. It's a root belief that must be firmly overturned to solve many transport problems.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:32:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						But these Sunday cyclists, pretty much by definition, are out and about on the weekends, generally using quiet or scenic roads. I have little sympathy for the poor motorist forced to spend some time travelling at a slower pace: the world doesn't revolve around the maintenance of the highest possible…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:26:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2014/01/13/no-one-should-pay-for-a-mistake-with-their-life/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Transportblog fisks</a> the AT study gently.</p><p><q>A couple of quick thoughts spring to mind about these intersections, on Quay St/Lower Albert is it cyclists travelling through the intersection while the pedestrian phase is running? On Tamaki Dr are the numbers high due to pack cycling? At Tamaki Dr/Paterson Ave there…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:33:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brodie Davis</title>
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						<p>The old 6" spike in the centre of the steering wheel system of car safety.</p><p>This case is hitting me a bit, as I used to ride down stanley street (on the footpath, I would never in a million years be on the road where that concrete truck is) and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:27:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Agreed. And I'm sorry to Bart, but whenever I've encountered those packs of "Sunday cyclists", they've maybe been doing half that speed.</p><p>If the road is narrowed down by those stupid "traffic calming" features, or for some reason isn't wide enough accommodate a car and cyclist simultaneously, sure, keep the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:22:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dan Salmon</title>
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						I know I'm quoting him twice today, but the old man used to reckon most of these problems would be solved if cars didn't have windscreens. That way drivers would have a proper sense of speed and vulnerability. Maybe making car drivers feel less godlike would be a good political…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:10:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Johnson</title>
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						I have cycled in every major city in NZ for the last 20 years.  Now living in Auckland, I think I can say I've never been as terrified on the road as I am here.  The roads are awful &ndash; cycle lanes disappear into multicar lanes with no curb space…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:09:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I understand the notion of 'owning' your space on the road, but</q></p><p>See the point above about "If you can't DRIVE safely and legally, don't drive".</p><p>Honestly, any time you find yourself wanting to say "yes but" is a good time to think very hard about what you're about to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:03:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dan Salmon</title>
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						I'd rather wear no helmet than have the false security of a secondhand helmet with no idea of its condition. If I got a secondhand helmet with a bike, it'd go into landfill.  It'd also be unlikely to fit my head shape
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:02:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						<p>Yes, riding 2 abreast is allowed. And yes the time delay to motorists is negligible. <br />I'm allowed to drive in the right hand  lane of the motorway at 80k. But it doesn't mean I'm not a twatcock if i do it.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>ride 2 or 3 abreast</q></p><p>Well they are allowed to ride two abreast.</p><p>If you are following such a pack ride they will almost certainly be doing 30-40 kph or more. In most places this is slightly less than the speed limit. In most cases driving behind them for a…</p>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						agree, 1) there's a time and a place 2) a long train can be particularly annoying. That small group of inconsiderates causing angst. Whenever I've gone bunch riding, if a car comes, back rider calls "car back" and we all drop to single file so they can pass safely.
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						On the subject of cyclists doing things that invite the ire of motorists, something I seem to encounter regularly is when a bunch of riders (usually the look-at-me-in-all-my-flash-gear-on-the-way-to-a-cafe-Sunday-rider-types) ride 2 or 3 abreast effectively preventing following traffic from passing without crossing onto the wrong side of the road. I understand…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:44:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>sweaty noggin</q></p><p>Dude the sweatiest part of my second hand bike is NOT going to be the helmet :).</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:39:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>not a good look for Auckland Council</q></p><p>Auckland Transport</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:29:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q> "If you can't ride safety and legally, don't ride."</q></p><p>"If you can't DRIVE safely and legally, don't drive" would be more germane. </p><p>If we applied that guideline there'd be a lot fewer private cars and a lot more publiuc transport.</p><p>Complete side issue: I found out recently that NZ rules…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:26:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>This Lance Wiggs post on the ‘Why do cyclists run red lights?’ report that has been completely ignored is an absolute must-read.</q></p><p>It certainly is. And it’s not a good look for Auckland Council, at all. They’ve ignored the recommendations, and completely misled the public about its contents.</p><p>Didn’t mean…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:23:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Sure it could get a little silly for some people (looks at my friend with 3 different bikes now) but those people will be the minority.</q></p><p>You mean there are people who only own one bike? Man, that's real poverty. More seriously, most of the people I know who commute…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:20:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If you switch the view of the Stanley St intersection around you can see a concrete truck make its way up Stanley…fuck being a cyclist on that road!</q></p><p>Currently having a conversation with a pedant on Twitter, pursuant to that picture. Money quote: “If you can’t ride safety and legally,…</p>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>Mr Tangiia was also an inexperienced cyclist who may not have looked for hazards like that.</q></p><p>Having just started biking again, the first ride home saw me crash (and break my helmet) because I was trying to go from the road to the separated bike-lane over a curb that was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:19:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						Second hand helmet? If my sweaty noggin is anything to go by, this would be on a par with opshop undies :-)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:17:08 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Ew, I wouldn't want to be wearing someone else's old helmet. I don't know if it's road-worthy and sweat and germs. Also, size. </p><p>I upgraded my bike from a cheap beater to a more suitable town bike within a year — helmet did not need an upgrade.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:10:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<a href="http://lancewiggs.com/2014/01/13/what-if-you-knew-how-to-stop-cycling-deaths-would-you-do-anything/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This Lance Wiggs post</a> on the 'Why do cyclists run red lights?' report that has been completely ignored is an absolute must-read.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:09:57 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><a href="http://caa.org.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cycle Action Auckland</a> are doing quite a lot of advocate work in this area, as are people like Pippa Coom on the Waitemata Local Board.</p><p>The council tends to be glacial to act on their recommendations but there have been a number of wins.</p><p>I do encourage people to sign…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:08:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Problematic. What if it’s a second bike purchase / upgrade / replacement and you already own all of those things? Does this apply to second-hand sales on TradeMe?</q></p><p>If you think it's time to upgrade your bike then your helmet probably needs an upgrade.</p><p>If you plan to sell your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:06:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						Checking again… who are the key cycling advocates when it comes to city planning? who can we as a community/voting public lean on?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:06:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>have left a ridge in the road about where a bike would normally be.</q></p><p>Sounds highly relevant &ndash; trucks wreck roads unless maintenance frequencies are shortened. This government's directing of expenditure away from local road maintenance into building more highways has left major roads with sub-standard surfaces. Mr Tangiia was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:03:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						I mix defensive and assertive ;) keep out of blindspots, watch for movement in windows, regularly check behind, occasionally (e.g. going up newtown gully to K’Rd) hitting the footpath so I don’t block fast flowing traffic but also holding my place in the lane when doing anything else would be…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:02:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Su Yin Khoo</title>
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						Problematic. What if it's a second bike purchase / upgrade / replacement and you already own all of those things? Does this apply to second-hand sales on TradeMe?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:59:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Why do i call it shoddy?</q></p><p>Also only two intersections. The Mt Albert/Dominion Rd intersection would give quite different data as would intersections in light industrial areas.</p><p>However, they chose two intersections where there are a lot more cyclists ... almost like they were trying to prove some pre-determined hypothesis.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:57:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> You can’t sell a car without working lights, but you can sell a bike in that condition.</q></p><p>You also shouldn't be able to sell a bike without a helmet. </p><p>Not that you shouldn't be allowed to ride without a helmet.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:52:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>BikeSaint in Sydney now works for the council as a bicycle planner</q></p><p>Moz, thanks for this reference. I've just started biking to work and am impressed by the progress made developing separated Sydney cycle routes but hadn't heard of Bike Saint (publicaddress now serving as a source of information about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:43:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jon Briggs</title>
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						No idea whether it is anything to do with the recent death, but all the trucks that accerate up to motorway speeds on Stanely St have left a ridge in the road about where a bike would normally be.  As a result you have to ride slightly further left than…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:37:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>When you are on the roundabout, try to continue indicating right if you are able, or indicate occasionally while you ride around the roundabout – this will let drivers</q>... know exactly where you will fall off your bike.</p><p>I've tried this, but the combination of braking, turning and looking in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:34:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Footpaths will not suit the serious riders!</q></p><p>Cycle path designers have to work quite hard on this one. The speed range is greater than most roads have to deal with, from recreational cyclists with kids doing 5-10kph through to serious cyclists* doing 60-70kph.</p><p>Commuting cyclists really feel any breaks in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:21:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>We need to stop having this bizarre idea that we should design roads that only work if people behave perfectly.</q></p><p>Yes. Our transport authorities spend considerably more money reworking roads to be more forgiving of driver error than doing the same for cyclists.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:19:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<q>…One last note: The road rules, like the road design, are made entirely for vehicle users, with a few small concessions to other users, principally pedestrians. These rules, again like the form of the roads, take almost no account of the peculiar halfway house of vulnerability yet increased speed of…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:18:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Putting bikes on the footpath is a no brainer. But it means safe cycling. The law could be strict liability "If a bike hits a pedestrian then it was not safe."</q></p><p>Effectively that's the case now, since the cyclist is in the wrong by virtue of not being allowed to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:15:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>winston moreton</title>
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						<p>Great Post. You will be correct about the truckdriver.<br />Putting bikes on the footpath is a no brainer. But it means safe  cycling. The law could be strict liability  "If a bike hits a pedestrian then it was not safe."</p><p>Footpaths will not suit the serious riders! In Melbourne despite…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:02:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Patrick Reynolds</title>
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						<p>What do I mean by Incomplete Streets: <br /><a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/11/13/the-politics-of-our-incomplete-streetst/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/11/13/the-politics-of-our-incomplete-streetst/</a></p><p>More: <br /><a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/11/25/more-lessons-from-bilbao/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://transportblog.co.nz/2013/11/25/more-lessons-from-bilbao/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:56:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Patrick Reynolds</title>
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						I just find it incredibly irresponsible of Auckland Transport to be fanning the flames of cyclist hatred with their shoddy survey as a response to the death of a person on a bike. This just looks like an attempt to distract from their appalling record of continuing to maintain incomplete…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:52:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p><q>People will make mistakes and poor choices. The idea is to get to a point where the penalty for making a mistake isn’t death, and where the “correct” route isn’t too risky to countenance. </q></p><p>Exactly.  We seem to have this idea that people should behave perfectly on the roads, or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:48:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Facing forward, you can only have one visible flashing light. </p><p><q> I’d rather people saw my mobile disco.</q></p><p>I am not sure about much safer you are.</p><p>If you have ever navigated a boat at night, you would realise how confusing lights can be when you have no spatial clues.</p><p>At…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:43:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>One or two white or yellow headlights that can be seen at night from a distance of 100 metres. Only one of these headlights may flash.</q></p><p>Oh well, I guess I'm just going to break that law. I'd rather people saw my mobile disco.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:42:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Don't know about trucks.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:42:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Are you sure, Tom? I'm under the impression that it's not legal to have lights which are so bright they affect the sight of others, and lights must be the appropriate colour. But having a lot of flashing light doesn't seem to contravene any code.<br /><a href="http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/01/cycles-rules-equipment.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/01/cycles-rules-equipment.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:41:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>AdamPope</title>
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						I got doored by a taxi passenger exiting on the right beside Trafalgar Square. Broke my leg and suffered head injury. The passenger was an American tourist and the taxi disappeared. Agree with the principle, just not <em>always</em> safe to ride on the outside...
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:40:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/cyclist-code/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/cyclist-code/</a></p><p><q>"...Compulsory equipment<br />A red or yellow rear reflector that is visible from a distance of 100 metres when light shines on it.<br />Good brakes on the front and back wheels (or, if the cycle was made before 1 January 1988, a good brake on the back wheel).</p><p>When cycling…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:40:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>For example, in winter many cyclists (for understandable reasons) festoon themselves with so much flashing, pulsing and static lights in orange, red and white that they look like a Hindu festival on acid. Much of that light is probably illegal. </q></p><p>Is it legal for trucks?  Sometimes on the highways at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:34:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						I've been big on cyclist visibility for a while. You can't sell a car without working lights, but you can sell a bike in that condition. In New Zealand's changeable weather and shorter winter days, it can get rather dark rather quickly. I personally never ride without rather powerful flashing…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:30:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						The thing here is that usually it is the ignorant abusing the ill-informed. Most people on the road (cyclists and motorists) would not be able to pass a test about cycling based on on the road code. I took the trouble of downloading and reading it, there was stuff in…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:30:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>People will make mistakes and poor choices. The idea is to get to a point where the penalty for making a mistake isn’t death, and where the “correct” route isn’t too risky to countenance.</q></p><p>It doesn’t directly involve cycling, but I found it telling browsing [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLaTupw-hk|the YouTube comment thread under…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:27:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						Having grown up and learned to drive (and cycle) in London I am still amazed at the almost complete lack of interest from most road users to other road users in Godzone. The inability, for instance, to understand that racing up to a red light is pointless, use that time…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:25:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle MacDonald</title>
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						Great post Russell.  I too have spent a bit of time riding in Urban Auckland, and found that it's best to just do what works, including all the supposedly "illegal" things cyclists do.  I for one haven't ridden on the roads since becoming a parent, it just got to scary…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:24:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ray Gilbert</title>
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						I spent well over a decade communting by cycle in Auckland every day rain or shine. Started with Herne Bay to Penrose, then Balmoral-Penrose, Mt Roskill-Grafton and finally Blockhouse Bay-Grafton. The first couple of years in Balmoral before the cycle lanes went on to Dominion Rd. I eventually stopped about…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:19:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p>After I moved from Christchurch to Wellington 12 years ago, I stopped riding my bike. I started again just before Christmas, and (allowing for weather and days when I need the car for other reasons) I'm cycling in a couple of days a week.</p><p>So far, the closest calls have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:18:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tristan</title>
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						I was also dismayed to see the Transport Agencies limp dick response to cycling deaths by seeing these two articles placed together..yeah screw dedicated cycling lanes lets just put an ad on the telly
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:18:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dan Salmon</title>
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						<p>Where to start ? Auckland Transports intransigence? Having spent 6 years trying to sort safe pedestrian access for our poor little school (that just got torched) with AT reps who seemed to think pedestrians only travelled in walking buses.<br />Road laws- my father, a bike activist way back, who used…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tristan</title>
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						If you switch the view of the Stanley St intersection around you can see a concrete truck make its way up Stanley…fuck being a cyclist on that road!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:15:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Far safer to break the law and ride on the footpath</q></p><p>Which I do as well in certain places. </p><p>BUT when I'm on the footpath, I'm the danger. </p><p>So I slow right down to near walking speed and give any pedestrians the right to what is, after all, their space…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:14:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>I can’t even ride a bike, so all this feels like it’s from another planet, but it seems to me that cyclists running red lights are totally different from motorists.</q></p><p>I’m also not a cyclist, but I’m a frequent pedestrian (and I drive when I need to).  To me it’s…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:05:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>I also want to balance that tho. There is a small element in the cycling community who don’t do us any favour and I have had many many many occasions to think “hey thanks for being so considerate” and have had no trouble with buses during a recent year of…</q>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:56:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						In my many many years of riding in auckland i've struck a varied set of drivers from the nice lady that wound down her window to apologise for not seeing me to the young yob who brown eyed me out the side of a landy. I've been nudged twice, once…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:49:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11185288" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Another Herald story</a> (they've been covering this quite well): the 10,000 cyclists fined annually for not wearing helmets, even though the efficacy of the helmet law is a matter of debate.</p><p><q>However, the Cycling Advocates' Network of NZ is calling for a review of the helmet law.</p><p>"It was expected to…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:48:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Stewart</title>
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						I regularly commute from Pt Chev to Henderson. The only truly scary bit is the section through Te Atatu Sth, and you'd have to be crazy to ride on the road. Far safer to break the law and ride on the footpath &ndash; at least i have some control over…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:48:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gee</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilot-teach-cyclists/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">An interesting perspective on vision and car versus bike/motorbike accidents here</a><br />Having had a great many near-misses and one stonking use of my helmet, I'd have to say I'm with you all the way, Russell. Footpaths are far safer in many places, and especially in those bus/bike lanes which often…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:47:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>Lance Wiggs has a <a href="http://lancewiggs.com/2014/01/13/what-if-you-knew-how-to-stop-cycling-deaths-would-you-do-anything/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">look at the report</a>.</p><p>My wife and I had a difference of opinion on this, this morning. She read the Herald report and seethed about cyclists using the footpath, and not giving way to pedestrians, and she's got a point, in Wellington, at least. I tried…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:46:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sol K</title>
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						I avoid going up the left if I can help it because of car door risks
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:45:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Queue-jumping isn't illegal per se.</q></p><p>True when there is a cycle lane leading to the green box, but there are other situations where it is illegal, but hardly either dangerous or any hazard to the drivers. I tend to slide up the left in some queues but there are others…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:36:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Stranger still is the anger (blind rage?) that some people feel because a cyclist is able to travel quicker through traffic, whether it be through illegal queue jumping or through dedicated cycle lanes.</q></p><p>Queue-jumping isn't illegal per se. That's why stop-boxes are there at intersections &mdash; you're supposed to get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:27:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Via the Wheeled Pedestrian Twitter account.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:23:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Fixing Auckland's cycleways is probably going to take a while, for as long as yesterday's men remain in charge of road engineering. The NZTA is in dire need of people like Josh Arbury, and not before time. And in Wellington, politics aside, the bike-riding Mayor Celia is frequently dumped upon…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:22:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						Mt Albert road has a cycle lane marked in green that is simply used as an extra lane by 90% of drivers. With a free left turn onto Sandringham Rd that crosses the cycle lane (and any cyclists that happen to be brave enough to use it) it is a…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:19:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						I can't even ride a bike, so all this feels like it's from another planet, but it seems to me that cyclists running red lights are totally different from motorists. For motorists, it's people trying to bolt through at speed after the light has just changed red, for cyclists, it's…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:17:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shaun Lott</title>
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						Getting on to the SH16 cycle path from the Te Atatu Peninsula is much better, but still not great. Of course, the city end of things is where the Russian roulette really starts. Is there any plan to say goodbye to the conceptually awful 'bus/bike' lane? Although it's axiomatic that…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:03:38 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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