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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><a href="http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/gore-went-to-bat-for-al-jazeera-and-himself/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I fixed that dodgy link above...</a> <br />and to think if he'd just changed the name to The Gore Channel &ndash; he'd probably have made an even bigger killing!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 06:59:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Al Gore has just <a href="http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/gore-went-to-bat-for-al-jazeera-and-himself/sold his Current TV network to Al-Jazeera" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/gore-went-to-bat-for-al-jazeera-and-himself/sold his Current TV network to Al-Jazeera</a>. Up until recently we were able to get Al-Jazeera in NZ via Stratos/Triangle.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:50:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Oh, and Rich, you do think Nelson Mandela also somehow "asked" for <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/9736490/Nelson-Mandela-suffering-from-lung-infection-and-sparkle-fading.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">crap like this</a>?</p><p>FFS, pardon me for not being entirely shocked at the idea that a man in his mid-90's might not be in the best of health &ndash; but where's the legitimate public interest in violating his…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:38:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>And pretty much always has been. So if your point is they should just get over themselves and put up with the paparazzi then, maybe.</q></p><p>Quite &ndash; you know what, you many not like an unelected hereditary monarch who has to meet a religious qualification being New Zealand's head of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:27:35 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Not that there’s much chance of that, sadly.</q></p><p>The worst that could happen is maybe a diplomatic incident, but even then, it'd be on the milder end of the scale.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:29:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I thought there were laws about using telecommunication devices for malicious purposes?</q></p><p>A tv story I saw said that Australian broadcasting/surveillance laws offer relevant protections for recording without knowledge or broadcasting without consent. Guess that's why the station manager has made such a deal of how many times they phoned…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:13:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>There’s a hell of a difference between opposing the institution of the monarchy and extending the individual members of the royal family the same basic respect we expect to be treated with ourselves.</q></p><p>There really, really is.</p><p>The central fact here is that there's a young woman suffering a distressing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:42:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>I thought there were laws about using telecommunication devices for malicious purposes?</q></p><p>Most such laws are restricted by national borders. When the perpetrator and victim are in different countries it requires two sets of laws to work in cooperation (like extraditing Kim Dotcom requires NZ and US laws to cooperate).…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:34:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Malice Springs?</strong><br /><q>…the same basic respect we expect <br />to be treated with ourselves.</q><br />The more I think about it, the less I like this whole schadenfreude (taking joy at others' misfortune) entertainment sector. <br />This isn’t simply passive pratfall-based schadenfreude the callers were engaged in, it was actively set up, entrapment…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:49:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Aidan</title>
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						I was planning on posting a link to this anyway – a <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/politics/2012/12/corporate-power-lies-about-leveson-and-why-royals-don’t-deserve-privacy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">well thought out pro-Leveson view from an insider</a>, but the royals link makes it all the more apposite.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:27:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>The British royals whole existence is “unreasonable and over the top”.</q></p><p>And pretty much always has been. So if your point is they should just get over themselves and put up with the paparazzi then, maybe. At what point do you think William was told if he didn't like it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:27:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						There's a hell of a difference between opposing the institution of the monarchy and extending the individual members of the royal family the same basic respect we expect to be treated with ourselves.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:55:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The British royals whole existence is "unreasonable and over the top".</p><p>Charles insists that everyone he meets, including senior people that he works with everyday, call him "sir". When they came here, rather than (like all our elected politicians) travelling on Air NZ's perfectly comfortable services, we had to lay…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:42:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>Charles himself said to a journalist questioning his view of the call something along the lines of "how do you know I wasn't at the Radio station?"  hardly too precious?<br />He may be regretting that comment now however. And Kate will probably be devastated, adding to her troubles of pregnancy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:08:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<q>’m not a great fan of the monarchy and I generally avoid news coverage of them, but I haven’t seen any headline (about all I read of the royals unless it’s about something actually important) suggesting they might have been so. And they’re just as deserving of a fair go…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 22:20:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q> the British royals for being so fucking precious</q></p><p>Given that this comes so hard on the heels of the Leveson inquiry and the decades of invasions of privacy they've had to suffer at the hands of the British press, I'm not about to go accusing them of being precious unless…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:50:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I don't think such laws apply to overseas deaths, just to NZ. </p><p>But anyway, I'm surprised that anyone hasn't suggested that fault is with the British royals for being so fucking precious that putting through a prank call is a big issue?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:57:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Barnard</title>
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						<p>I don't think it's way off topic as well, as I think we're all still pretty crap at appreciating the way mental health works, and the way stuff that's done &amp; said can effect people.</p><p>If it highlights that trying to humiliate people for a laugh can have consequences something good…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:25:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Yes, it is usually encoded,</q></p><p>But more and more I am seeing examples such as that which Ian linked to. I vaguely recall some changes to reporting being changed not so long back. <br />I wonder though if we actually are confronted with the truth ,we may well be able to…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						And it's <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/07/2day-fm-the-radio-station-behind-the-tragic-kate-middleton-prank.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">far from the first time</a> 2Day FM has been in the gun. This time, though, it could be a knockout blow.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 16:01:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						A terrible outcome but if it put an end to such prank calls, something good may come of it.  They are usually so piss-weak and designed to get cheap laughs by humiliating people.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Yes, it is usually encoded, as in <em>There were no suspicious circumstances</em>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:37:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>More often than not, it’s a euphemism for suicide. These fellas make Iain Stables look like Dougal Stevenson.</q></p><p>I was under the impression there were rules about the reporting of suicides, the weak justification being that they don't want people to read about a suicide and try it out for…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						If you missed this morning's Media3, you can <a href="http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Media-3-Season-1-Ep-18/tabid/59/articleID/9038/MCat/540/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">watch it on-demand here</a>.
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>More often than not, it’s a euphemism for suicide.</q></p><p>Certainly in this case: <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/world/nurse-at-kates-hospital-who-took-prank-call-from-sydney-djs-suicides-20121208-2b1u2.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.smh.com.au/world/nurse-at-kates-hospital-who-took-prank-call-from-sydney-djs-suicides-20121208-2b1u2.html</a></p>
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						<p><q>Also to note. the Herald writes ”Police say death not suspicious” Double speak? It almost glosses over the tragedy.</q></p><p>More often than not, it’s a euphemism for suicide. These fellas make Iain Stables look like Dougal Stevenson.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>I hope that the Australian radio announcers who perpetrated this are pilloried, if not prosecuted </q></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/8054366/Royal-radio-pranksters-quit-show" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> They have gone</a></p><p>Also to note. the Herald writes<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&amp;objectid=10852724" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> ”Police say death not suspicious"</a> Double speak? It almost glosses over the tragedy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:58:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p><q>They ended up pushing this poor nurse into the limelight, and too far, purely to amuse themselves – abhorrent.</q></p><p>And in fact this was the nurse who originally took the call because there was no-one at reception at something like 5:30am in the morning &ndash; not the one who later…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:51:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Enough!!</strong><br />It's not just the papers, is it? <br />Radio, TV, and the Net weigh in as media riddled with self entitled, ill considered behaviours, tacitly condoned and enabled by lack of consequences for harms done. <br />Case in point &ndash;  <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/world/8054196/Nurse-who-took-Middleton-prank-call-found-dead" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this sad story</a> I read this morning:<br /><q>A nurse who took…</q></p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>In the weird worst of all worlds that is TVNZ you don’t have a choice.</q></p><p>Unfortunately right. Unaccountable state bureaucracy + private-sector materialistic crassness = a law unto itself.</p>
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				<title>Barnard</title>
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						In the weird worst of all worlds that is TVNZ you don't have a choice.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10852482" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">And just what are we to make of this?</a></p><p><q>The blurring of lines in television is part of a wider trend in media to exert greater marketing influence over news values, emphasising news as a commodity rather than a service.</q></p><p>Maybe I'm getting old, but I'd really rather be informed than…</p>
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						Reporters Without Borders' view on the Leveson Inquiry: <a href="http://en.rsf.org/united-kingdom-independence-and-pluralism-must-01-12-2012,43742.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">proceed with caution</a>.
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						<p><q>tell that to the FCC ...</q></p><p>So maybe the Leveson Inquiry could be looked at from an anti-trust perspective, instead of a free press perspective. Al Capone never got nabbed for a single murder, but tax evasion was his fatal weakness.</p><p><q>I think the one thing those who've argued that…</q></p>
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						<p>Interesting (and not wholly off-topic) NYer article on <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/12/10/121210fa_fact_auletta" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Elisabeth Murdoch.</a> Her 2011 <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2012/aug/23/elisabeth-murdoch-mactaggart-lecture" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">McTaggart Lecture</a> is also worth a look. <br />The idea is abroad that she's well-positioned to take a key role at News Corp.</p>
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						<p><q>tell that to the FCC …</q></p><p>Yeah well, that ship sailed a long time ago.<br />Another thing that struck me living there was the extent to which the landscape/culture was largely accepted, or at least most people had given up hoping it would change (you can't turn back time). </p><p>I…</p>
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						<p><q>The media ownership mix is crucial...</q><br />tell that to <a href="http://boingboing.net/2012/11/29/new-fcc-rules-will-let-a-singl.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the FCC ...</a></p>
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						<p>You're right about where the power lies.</p><p>Malik is talking about holding power to account as if the only power is the government/state.</p><p>It's not even just the individual power of someone like Murdoch, it's as much that all the proprietors in a self interest sense, and their editors from…</p>
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						<p>Great discussion. Given me a lot to think about.</p><p><q>I've no doubt many individual journalists still take their role of holding power to account very seriously, but I don't think that's true of those in management.</q></p><p>I think, as has been borne out, this is because someone like Murdoch <strong>is</strong>…</p>
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						<q>The real indictment of the press today is not that it is too powerful but that it is too cowardly. It fails to probe deeply enough, it is unable to ask the difficult questions of those in power, it refuses to challenge received wisdom. In that sense the problem with…</q>
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						<p>From Malik:<br />This is good:<br /><q>The real indictment of the press today is not that it is too powerful but that it is too cowardly.  It fails to probe deeply enough, it is unable to ask the difficult questions of those in power, it refuses to challenge received wisdom. In…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Then I read Kenan Malik. Damn he is impressive.</p><p>It's a very strong argument. I've just followed him on Twitter.</q></p><p>It is, but there's also something of an irony with accusing Hacked Off of a kind of moral blackmail when there's been plenty of 'Support Leveson = hate freedom' type…</p>
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						<p><q>Then I read Kenan Malik. Damn he is impressive.</p><p>I still think yes to Leveson (like my opinion matters), but now I’m filled with doubt.</q></p><p>Malik's point is basically that the solutions proposed by Leveson will only attack the symptom.</p><p>Case in point: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen#Relations_with_the_media" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sir Joh's Queensland</a>. Levesonian regulation could be…</p>
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						I take your point, Craig, but what I would be looking for is a mechanism which makes the media more accountable for its choices and actions, rather than falling back on the flaccid and often-erroneous excuse of 'it's what the people want to see or hear'.  Some of those journalists…
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						<p><q>Then I read Kenan Malik. Damn he is impressive.</q></p><p>It's a very strong argument. I've just <a href="https://twitter.com/kenanmalik" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">followed him on Twitter</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>I still think yes to Leveson (like my opinion matters), but now I’m filled with doubt.</q></p><p>Oh, me too.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> Press freedom is all well and good but, to date, it has primarily been freedom to distort, to create false alarms and moral panics, to manipulate politicians, to serve the venal interests of bastards like Murdoch. I am all for reigning in such 'freedoms'.</q></p><p>So, would you like those 'freedoms'…</p>
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						<p>Yeah, it's fair to say the toxic UK press culture is a mix of their intoxication with power and rampant disregard for current law. Not helped by collusion tacit and real from elements of the police and politics. <br />But the wimpy self-regulation hasn't helped. Independent regulators with some teeth: worth…</p>
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						<p>I was pretty sure the Leveson proposal was the right way to go, especially after seeing the very sharp Nick Davies <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2012/nov/29/leveson-report-press-regulation-video" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">generally positive first appraisal of it</a>.</p><p>Then I read <a href="http://kenanmalik.wordpress.com/2012/12/01/the-wrong-solution-to-the-wrong-problem/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kenan Malik</a>. Damn he is impressive. </p><p>I still think yes to Leveson (like my opinion matters), but now I’m filled…</p>
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						<p>Although most of the worlds newspapers have public shareholders, they're pretty much under the sway of a few megalomaniacs, who have set up structures that let them exercise control while using the dollars of pensioners and the like as capital.</p><p>Exceptions are Fairfax, where the depredations of a fresh-out-of-Harvard Warwick…</p>
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						<p>It'a been amusing watching each of the major players of the right wing press respond to Leveson by just reverting to type. That Dacre's actually upped the personalised nature of the attacks has been particularly brazen.</p><p>They're all counting on the fact that the overwhelming tone of British public life…</p>
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						<p><strong>Now at last we can be told!</strong><br />I see <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/media-swallowed-hobbit-embargo-while-politicians-blabbed-rv-133" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NBR’s Rod Vaughan</a> has scored a massive scoop, which had otherwise slipped under even Radio NZ’s  &amp; Fairfax's radar!<br /><q> Which begs the question: why the state broadcaster did not show the same enterprise as Stuff, which thumbed its nose at the draconian…</q></p>
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						<p><q>The New Zealand Press Council? Pretty much a toothless, mangy old cat.</q></p><p>It was formed during a period when major newspapers were regional and privately held, and before the age of Big Media. So how can the Press Council be given regulatory teeth without weakening free speech? A starting template…</p>
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						The New Zealand Press Council?  Pretty much a toothless, mangy old cat.
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						<p>The same British papers that are so terrified of evil ‘regulation’ (ooH! ooh! jackboots! slippery slope to evil and no way back!) have been pretty laid back about everyone else’s freedom being regulated with ASBOs and drug laws and surveillance cameras up the wazoo. <br />Ignore them. Regulate them, here and…</p>
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						<p>Quick and perhaps not entirely coherent comment before I run off to the office and try to do something useful:</p><p>I do think there should be a media code of conduct and a regulatory body in charge of all media &ndash; including us lowly bloggers and microbloggers. But I think…</p>
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						<p>At the very least, major Press Council and BSA decisions should be made much more publicly known. They're published on their respective Web sites, but not everyone's got the sort of attention span we do.</p><p>Rich: in NZ's case, the traditional media industry seems to exhibit classic signs of a…</p>
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						My understanding is that Levenson is calling for an extension of the brief of Ofcom, which has generally been a good element in British broadcasting. Press freedom is all well and good but, to date, it has primarily been freedom to distort, to create false alarms and moral panics, to…
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						<p>A step in the right direction &ndash; A few thoughts.</p><p>The damages award for defamation type cases should not be mitigated or reduced if there is to be a low cost litigation panel or tribunal &ndash; the thing in whatever jurisdiction will likely start with good intentions and eventually become…</p>
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						I think the point of Leveson is that News International systematically committed criminal offences to obtain news stories, the Metropolitan Police conspired with them in this (motivated both by individual financial gain and to advance a shared authoritarian agenda) and that UK governments of both parties connived in this (from…
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