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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Stephen Jones in Wasilla Alaska last night was great.</p></blockquote><p>Wholeheartedly agree. Skewered so effectively in only a few minutes that you won't need to read the screeds of coverage about Palin's incompetence.  Go watch if you haven't seen it.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Thanks Lucy &ndash; I'll try and catch the episode.  There was a <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2008/10/after_the_death_of_high_wages.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">good BBC Newsnight video piece (15 min)</a> on the long term US economic situation a couple of nights ago.</p><p>Paul Mason looked at the twin long term trends of falling real wages, disappearing jobs and how easy credit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:43:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>Stephen Jones in Wasilla Alaska last night was great. He interviewed the current town mayor ("yes, being Mayor of this town prepares you for being VP of the USA"). He then asked her what she actually did. She listed all the things she didn't control (fire department, education etc), and…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:22:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Really? I've never really been a Colbert fan</p><p>I'm not either &mdash; Colbert works, or not, to the extent you're familiar with the O'Reilly/Sean Innanity school of right-wing screaming skull talkback television he's parodying.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I'm very depressed by this assessment. I actually think Colbert's 'thing' is so, so much…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:14:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and more Aasif Mandvi should be mandatory.</p></blockquote><p>Stephen Jones in Wasilla Alaska last night was great. He interviewed the current town mayor ("yes, being Mayor of this town prepares you for being VP of the USA"). He then asked her what she actually did. She listed all the things…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:07:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Really? I've never really been a Colbert fan</p></blockquote><p>I'm not either &mdash; Colbert works, or not, to the extent you're familiar with the O'Reilly/Sean Innanity school of right-wing screaming skull talkback television he's parodying.  Suspect that gets lost in translation, while Stewart's meta-parody is of the content-free news show.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:02:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>Really? I've never really been a Colbert fan; he's good as an occasional correspondent, but the end-of-show crossovers are pretty hit and miss IMO.</p><p>Oh, and more <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aasif_Mandvi" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Aasif Mandvi</a> should be mandatory.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:57:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If only every awkward cross-over segment with Stephen Colbert could be replaced with Jon in furious proud New Yorker mode.</p></blockquote><p>I must disagree. Any day which includes Stephen Colbert in any form is a good day.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:37:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, Kyle, Labour should "put it out there" because we deserve to know whether it wins votes or not. Especially when said Labour Party is busy accusing others of holding back a 'secret agenda' from voters, don't you think?</p></blockquote><p>Well, if Labour don't release some further details before the election,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:34:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Last night's Daily Show had a hysterical (and very pointed) segment addressing just this issue. They're getting very angry this election, and it's mostly making them funnier."</p><p>Agreed. I am very pro-Incredulously Angry Jon.</p></blockquote><p>Solidly thirded here. If only every awkward cross-over segment with Stephen Colbert could be replaced with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:31:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you prepared to admit, Craig, that Labour's in no position to know now what our economy will look like in December?</p></blockquote><p>Matthew:  Nobody knows that with any degree of certainty, so if you're willing to give everyone a pass on pulling vague, number-free policy out of their collective <em>recta</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:31:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do have any idea of what's in Labour's stimulus package, what it will cost and how it will be paid for? Armstrong doesn't, and I don't think he really cares. He should. We all should.</p></blockquote><p>We've got an idea of what's in it. More of an idea, in fact, than…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:14:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>Quite right Craig, both Lockwood &amp; the Black-Birding labour scheme are racist.</p><p>Now what has happened to Lockwoods advisor Dr Clydesdale?<br /><a href="http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-us/news/article.cfm?mnarticle=pacific-peoples-report-welcomed-26-08-2008" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-us/news/article.cfm?mnarticle=pacific-peoples-report-welcomed-26-08-2008</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:09:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Way to miss the money quote Craig, and wreck the context.</p></blockquote><p>You're half-right, Kyle.  I should have included the next par, because "foreshadowing" is always a meaningful substitute for actual, properly costed policy.  Not.</p><blockquote><p>Armstrong was saying that, for purposes of winning votes, Labour should put it out there.</p></blockquote><p>No,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:11:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Were Lockwoods Smith racist comments designed to test the waters for a race based campaign?</p></blockquote><p>No &ndash; and if that's what some emplyers are <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4735799a28435.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">telling Smith</a>, perhaps it says more about the casual racism of using the Pacific as a cheap pool of "guest workers".</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:08:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, dumbest campaign commentary of the day from John Armstrong on the front page this morning</p></blockquote><p>Way to miss the money quote Craig, and wreck the context.</p><blockquote><p>But there is no point in preparing a package if it is never going to see the light of day.</p><p>The party will…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:04:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>Were Lockwoods Smith racist comments designed to test the waters for a race based campaign? <br />Key hasn't slammed him down and he jumped on Williamson pretty quickly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:00:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Same applies to National, Craig.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, Matthew, which I've said repeatedly untill (miracle of miracles!) I'm almost sick of the sound of my own voice.  And National has actually faced some critical scrutiny of that policy, and deservedly so.</p><p>But, hey, National actually released that policy before the election Matthew…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:54:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is no point is us dipshit voters getting to assess Labour's spending promises &mdash; and how they're going to be paid for &mdash; before the election</p></blockquote><p>Same applies to National, Craig. I'm really curious what they're going to "refocus" in the existing Police budget in order to find several…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They're getting very angry this election, and it's mostly making them funnier.</p></blockquote><p>Take your point, Lucy, but I guess it stops being funny when you're the one having your faith, honour and honesty attacked day after day by a habitual and pathological liar who is apparently also functionally illiterate.  As…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They're getting very angry this election, and it's mostly making them funnier.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. I am very pro-Incredulously Angry Jon.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote>I get it. General Colin Powell is not a "real" Republican. Liberals who live in Virginia are not "real Virginians." Muslim Americans are not "real" Americans. Women who want to keep abortion legal are not real women. Homeless people who walk infront of a car and get hit are not…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:06:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, dumbest campaign commentary of the day from John Armstrong on <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&amp;objectid=10538765" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the front page this morning</a></p><blockquote><p>The crisis gave Helen Clark a heaven-sent opportunity to reinforce her "no change-trust us" theme.</p><p>Labour says it will bring forward construction projects to keep "real people in real jobs" and is already working on…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:53:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Speaking of interesting comments, Bob Novak's 'Powell was never much of a Republican' column in the Wapo got a hostile reception.</p></blockquote><p>And, in a classic case of burying the lead, I was intrigued by Novak's last par:</p><blockquote><p>The popular general <strong>resisted efforts to enlist him as a party fund-raiser</strong>, and…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:45:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Speaking of interesting comments, Bob Novak's <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/10/post.html#more" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'Powell was never much of a Republican' column</a> in the Wapo got a hostile reception.</p><p>Highlights include:</p><blockquote><p>I get it.  General Colin Powell is not a "real" Republican. Liberals who live in Virginia are not "real Virginians." Muslim Americans are not "real" Americans. Women…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p>Stephen: Yes it does; the statistic quoted is for "Investments with Other Financial Institutions", which "includes shares, managed funds (unit trusts, group investment funds, etc), fixed interest investments, securities or bonds, syndicated investments, etc".</p><p>But these are old figures, and as Danyl pointed out, Kiwisaver will be changing them significantly.…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I/S: fair enough. HSS doesn't tell you about indirect ownership though...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:03:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p>Stephen:<br /><quota>OK, but getting back to my original complaint: there is a difference between a) the majority of shares being owned by rich people (probably true), and b) the majority of share owners being rich people (which I doubt). If your policy aim is to put the boot into the…</quota></p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmmm... 50% of Americans would see through that story. Changing size in response to environmental factors smacks of evolution. Surely NZ rats, like US rats, are sized in accordance with God's plan, independent of the presence or absence of foxes.</p></blockquote><p>Evidence of God's plan would surely mean they were bite-sized…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmmm... 50% of Americans would see through that story. Changing size in response to environmental factors smacks of evolution. Surely NZ rats, like US rats, are sized in accordance with God's plan, independent of the presence or absence of foxes.</p></blockquote><p>Ah, but wouldn't a wise God <em>design</em> bigger rats for…</p>
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						OK, but getting back to my original complaint: there is a difference between a) the majority of shares being owned by rich people (probably true), and b) the majority of share owners being rich people (which I doubt). If your policy aim is to put the boot into the rich,…
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						<p>ha!</p><p>When you're that funny on your first post Mr Webber, you're a welcome addition to PAS.</p>
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				<title>Paul Webber</title>
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						<blockquote> I retaliated by warning him not to go hiking alone in the bush in NZ, since lack of mammalian competition had led to rats growing to enormous size to fill the niche normally occupied by foxes and the like, and these enormous "bush rats" were known to attack lone trampers…</blockquote>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Thinking of my brother in law specifically, that statement was true a few months ago, but no longer.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, there will be lots of exceptions. As was pointed out, a bunch of people working minimum wage will have signed up to kiwisaver and will therefore probably own some shares. Possibly…</p>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Yes, I saw that 'dirty elections' piece linked from Kiwiblog.</p><p>Am I an idiot for being disappointed that, rather than say "this is absurd, false, and insulting to my country to be lumped in with Zimbabwe and Nigeria", he used it as an excuse to say "Liarbore is teh evil…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>but it's not rocket science to say that shares will be much more likely to be owned by people who are richer than those who don't own shares.</p></blockquote><p>Thinking of my brother in law specifically, that statement was true a few months ago, but no longer.</p>
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						Oh, and they're doing another waveof SOFIE at the moment (you may remember the whining in the news over the last few days), though I don't know whether it includes the asset questions or not.  But we should be getting newer data sometime in the next few years.
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						<blockquote><p>Out of interest, how do you know?</p></blockquote><p>I don't know about overwhelmingly rich people, but it's not rocket science to say that shares will be much more likely to be owned by people who are richer than those who don't own shares.</p><p>Government intervention to prop up or boost or…</p>
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						Danyl: KiwiSaver will certainly be changing this dismal picture, though it won't all be going into stocks (KiwiSaver providers will run a mixed portfolio).  But while it will broaden indirect owneship, its not going to change the overall picture for a long time yet.
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						<blockquote><p>Are you sure Kyle?</p></blockquote><p>That's not me you're quoting. So I'm probably not sure :)</p>
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						<p>Stephen:</p><blockquote><p>Out of interest, how do you know?</p></blockquote><p>Standard power law distribution.  I've been digging through statsNZ looking for some neat figures, but sadly can't find any yet. But here's some scary data: According to <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/additional-information/survey-of-family-income-employment/default" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SOFIE</a> wave 2 (2004), 716,000 kiwis (24.4% of the population) owned financial assets, with a…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But seriously, isn't it weird that 'we' are arguing over whether the State (through it's Super Fund) should be buying into the NZ sharemarket when it's the Nats who are saying 'Yea' and Labour saying 'Nay'??</p></blockquote><p>John: Seriously, my weird-o-meter broke a while back.  Sorry for sounding like a broken…</p>
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						Rich: superannuation, life insurance and managed funds are all likely to have a substantial share component, just through intermediaries, that's all. That's also 2001 data. After the bull market we've just had in property and shares, things are likely to be quite different.
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						<blockquote><p>Why haven't the people said "enough!" and stuck the lot of them in jail?</p><p>There's a lot of ppl pinning those hopes on an Obama Administration.</p></blockquote><p>They're electing Obama, not Castro.</p><p>And throwing the capitalists in jail doesn't work, coz they eventually get released and return, zombie-like. Look at Russia.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not so sure; that would require a management culture interested in investment rather than asset-stripping, and willing to sacrifice short-term gains for longer-term returns.</p></blockquote><p>Yup. Most of my arguments are predated on a rosey view of 'what could be'. Unfortunately reality often proves to be the opposite.</p><p>FWIW &ndash; I…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Andrew: if you check their source &ndash; a list of "The World’s Ugliest Elections" in Foreign Policy &ndash; they think we're "dirty" because of... Googlebombing John Key?!?</p></blockquote><p>That might be the silliest thing I've read all year. And ...</p><blockquote><p>National Party supporters retaliated, causing a search for “Labour-funded lackeys” to…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>only rich people own shares?</p></blockquote><p>If you look at the <a href="http://www2.stats.govt.nz/domino/external/web/prod_serv.nsf/htmldocs/Household+Savings+Survey" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Household Savings Survey</a>, half the population has negligible net worth (of any sort). 20% of the adult population owned shares, and these are concentrated amongst the richest.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Idiot, why do you persist in this delusional belief that only rich people own shares?</p><p>Not "only", but certainly overwhelmingly.</p></blockquote><p>Over 800,000 New Zealanders have KiwiSaver accounts &ndash; almost all of them will have a share-market component to them. And many employers in New Zealand have pre-existing retirement schemes that…</p>
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						<blockquote>John, to be fair I don't think Key was talking about divesting &ndash; and I heard him say something about letting the fund Guardians decide how long to take to reach that 40% target &ndash; which makes a mockery of any short term benefits.</blockquote>Are you sure Kyle? A few pages…
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						<p>Andrew: if you check their source &ndash; a list of "The World’s Ugliest Elections" in <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4492" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Foreign Policy</a> &ndash; they think we're "dirty" because of... Googlebombing John Key?!?</p><p>That's a long way from telling your bodyguard to drag your opponent off the debating stage and shoot them (Russia), or whipping up…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>overwhelmingly</p></blockquote><p>Out of interest, how do you know?</p><p>On most of the company reports I have seen recently, small holdings account for the majority of the shares. Of the remainder most large holders are investment firms that are front ends for super schemes, nominee companies representing many investors, or insurance…</p>
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						<blockquote>But anyhoo .... "The Cullen Fund isn't there to prop up our economy" Yes, but imagine what could have been. Imagine if the Super Fund owned Telecom, Rail, BNZ, Air NZ, V/42 Below, NavMan, and Watties. We might have decent broadband, electric trains, kiwibank, an airline that serviced all parts…</blockquote>
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						<p>Has anyone else seen <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-warren/emthis-week-in-magazinese_b_135969.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>? A mistake surely?</p><blockquote><p>Picking recent and ongoing campaigns in Nigeria, Russia, Austria, New Zealand, Taiwan and Zimbabwe, they remind that we're watching a Stepford Wives Tupperware gathering by comparison, with all the venom of virtually any congressional hearing ("I thank the gentle lady from Florida....").…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm stunned that Obama is ahead in the polls. I am trying not to become complacent. It could still all go horribly wrong! Wrong I say!</p></blockquote><p>There's always Diebold.  Or <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/20/republicans-voting" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">voter disenfranchisement</a>.</p><p>As usual, I'm boggling at the practices of American political parties and wondering how the hell they get…</p>
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						<p>Stephen:</p><blockquote><p>Idiot, why do you persist in this delusional belief that only rich people own shares?</p></blockquote><p>Not "only", but certainly <em>overwhelmingly</em>.  Your investments don't disprove the thesis one iota, any more than the old Merkin / Libertarian chestnut of one person having "pulled themselves up by their bootstraps" and overcome…</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>conspiracy theory that Rupert Murdoch was forcing his newspapers to take a pro-Iraq editorial line, using the truly eccentric methodology of looking at editorials on the subject . It simply wasn't true &mdash; at least in New Zealand</em></p><p>Rupert Murdoch doesn't own any papers in NZ.<br />Was this a while…</p></blockquote>
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						Kyle, you're right. I wasn't thinking clearly enough about who those short term benefits would be for &ndash; those who play the market.
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						<blockquote>John, to be fair I don't think Key was talking about divesting &ndash; and I heard him say something about letting the fund Guardians decide how long to take to reach that 40% target &ndash; which makes a mockery of any short term benefits. Sounds decisive I guess. Just typical…</blockquote>
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						John, to be fair I don't think Key was talking about divesting &ndash; and I heard him say something about letting the fund Guardians decide how long to take to reach that 40% target &ndash; which makes a mockery of any short term benefits.  Sounds decisive I guess.  Just typical…
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						<blockquote><p>'In a world without that guy who did the voiceovers... '</p></blockquote><p>I was impressed to learn that he had come up with that catchphrase himself.  Now there's cultural influence!  Along those lines, "Business time" must be one of our most successful exports (other than corrupting the Aussies into doing the…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>conspiracy theory that Rupert Murdoch was forcing his newspapers to take a pro-Iraq editorial line, using the truly eccentric methodology of looking at editorials on the subject . It simply wasn't true &mdash; at least in New Zealand</p></blockquote><p>Rupert Murdoch <strong>doesn't own any papers in NZ</strong>.</p><p>Was this a while…</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10523557" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Brian Gaynor</a> in the Herald back in July:</p><blockquote><p>Vibrant capital markets depend on a high level of integrity and investor confidence.</p><p>Investor confidence was extremely high in the 1980s when individuals dived into the sharemarket and bought large quantities of shares in a plethora of high-flying companies including Chase, Equiticorp,…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Given that unbundling the local loop knocked around 20% off Telecom's value in March 2006, how willing would the government be to pass regulations that knock say $100m or 0.77% off the value of its portfolio (1.9% of its NZX portfolio)?</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Paul. For clearly and simply making the point…</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Imagine if the Super Fund owned Telecom, Rail, BNZ, Air NZ, V/42 Below, NavMan, and Watties</p></blockquote><p>OK, so imagine if the super fund, worth say $13bn, is required to invest 40% in the NZX, by my maths, that's $5.2bn.  So if that $5bn is spread amongst all companies on the…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I believe KiwiSaver, rather than the Cullen Fund, will be the eventual ice breaker for the NZX &ndash; think of it as sharemarket investment for the non-investor, maybe even the anti-investor as well.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps you're right, I tend to conflate them and I know I shouldn't. But if you <em>are</em>…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why is it that when our businesses reach a certain size they get sold off?</p></blockquote><p>My pet harangue-people-when-drunk theory is that New Zealanders have a very high personal discount rate. This manifests in she'll be right, bodged repairs, deferred maintenance, houses that fall apart, all sorts of short term thinking.…</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						Russell: That story comes from a post on <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-western-pennsylvania.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fivethirtyeight</a>, about Western Pa. It's provenance has <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-philadelphia-suburbs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">since been confirmed,</a> although I'm tempted to think it's apocryphal, despite my dim view of attitudes towards race in this part of the US.
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>One woman had to ask her husband (first tipoff, ask her husband?)... the response was "We're voting for the ni*r"</p></blockquote><p>My husband and I have been making 'can you believe this shit?' jokes about that one for a day or two. I can't work out whether it's more horrifying than…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote>Why is it that when our businesses reach a certain size they get sold off? What's holding us back? Often the answer is that our businesses are undercapitalised, that our infrastructure is under capitalised. Well, we've got a few lean years ahead of us then if we're waiting for the…</blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm stunned that Obama is ahead in the polls. I am trying not to become complacent. It could still all go horribly wrong! Wrong I say!</p></blockquote><p>The smart thing the Obama campaign is doing already is locking in that polling by getting hundreds of thousands of people, particularly in swing…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>But anyhoo .... "The Cullen Fund isn't there to prop up our economy" Yes, but imagine what could have been. Imagine if the Super Fund owned Telecom, Rail, BNZ, Air NZ, V/42 Below, NavMan, and Watties. We might have decent broadband, electric trains, kiwibank, an airline that serviced all parts…</blockquote>
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				<title>JohnAmiria</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm stunned that Obama is ahead in the polls. I am trying not to become complacent. It could still all go horribly wrong! Wrong I say!</blockquote>Rush Limbaugh claims it's all part of his cunning plan. Whether he actually believes it ('Obama is up in the Polls because my listeners are…
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						It's kind of weird to think that the NZ Super Fund has enough money to buy the entire New Zealand sharemarket. That just highlights how small we are. <em>"We're a tiny market that matters not a damn on the world stage."</em> is what I said earlier so we agree on…
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Cullen Fund isn't there to prop up our economy, it's there to ensure that we can afford to have an aging, retired population in 20, 30, 40 years' time. Propping up NZ's under-performing markets isn't compatible with that goal.</p></blockquote><p>That's certainly been my understanding. Forecast growth in dependency/worker ratios…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Didn't the guy who did all those voiceovers just die? How will they introduce his replacement? 'In a world without that guy who did the voiceovers... only one man could take his place...'</p></blockquote><p>Heh yourself. I think it was slimy Ben Elton who did a pretty good piece about voiceover…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I take that to mean your next coffee maker will be so large as to require its own room.</p><p>Confession: I did download Google Sketchup .</p></blockquote><p>:) Did the same for the computer. So many wires, so little space.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He was a man who played by own rules. A maverick. A hero. And now he had less than two weeks to destroy his enemy and save the world. John McCain is... "Screwed." Only in theatres.</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Didn't the guy who did all those voiceovers just die? How will they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:14:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm always amazed that there are any liberals still living in the USofA, I'd have fled screaming years ago.</p></blockquote><p>But &ndash; to use the same point I used earlier, in a different direction &ndash; it's their home. (And a lot of it is fantastic.)</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re the Robocalls &ndash; SO SO annoying. I struggle to see how even a crazy person would be convinced to vote for someone on the basis of a robo call. Especially with the voice that's used &ndash; it's like an action movie trailer.</p></blockquote><p>He was a man who played by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:08:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but now whenever it transpires with somebody back home that I live in New Zealand the response is invariably a variation on "you lucky bastard"</p></blockquote><p>If I had a dollar for every american that had said that to me over the last 16 years... I'd have ...$2.49<br />I'm always amazed…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How long til you retire</p></blockquote><p>It's a long-term proposition :P</p><blockquote><p>As I said, who else is going to buy into our sharemarket a.k.a. back NZ business? The NZX is likely to remain stagnant for some time, one possible outcome being that the Aussies will come over and buy us up…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:36:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You don't accept that there is a newspaper monopoly in every NZ city Craig?</p></blockquote><p>I was thinking more of the "National Party pamplet" crack, Rich.  And I do happen to think that whoever has the Treasury benches in three weeks will have marginally more pressing concerns on their minds.  Or…</p>
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				<title>Bronwen Joyner</title>
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						<p>Re the Robocalls &ndash; SO SO annoying.  I struggle to see how even a crazy person would be convinced to vote for someone on the basis of a robo call.  Especially with the voice that's used &ndash; it's like an action movie trailer.<br /> Here we come home and have at…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>You don't accept that there is a newspaper monopoly in every NZ city Craig?</p><p>Where can I buy a copy of the Wellington Times, the Wellington Herald or the Wellington Guardian then?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>England in the 1950s</p></blockquote><p>&ndash; No central heating<br />&ndash; No double glazing<br />&ndash; 20/30 year old cars<br />&ndash; Motorcycle gang panic<br />&ndash; Amphetamines<br />&ndash; Fizzy beer</p><p>I love it here really!</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It was as if I'd never existed until I entered the US, and leaving it meant that I would cease to exist again. I was heading off to the Inferior, non-USA Area of the Globe.</p></blockquote><p>It wasn't so much the case ten years ago, but now whenever it transpires with…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because ours are worried that if they explicitly declared themselves to be National party pamphlets, a non-National government might notice that they are an unregulated and abusive monopoly?</p></blockquote><p>*sigh*  Rich: Even if I accepted your premise, which I don't, I'd like to give any future "non-National government" a little more…</p>
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						<p>You know, I forgot the maddest/most infuriating question of them all, which was consistent, happened dozens of times with people from all walks of life, and was in reaction to news that we were moving back to New Zealand: </p><p><honest befuddlement shading into vague resentment> 'Why are you doing that?'</p><p>It was as if I'd never…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It could also explain those Britons' belief that NZ hasn't progressed since the postwar period.</p></blockquote><p>A sizeable proportion of Britons seem to (consciously or unconsciously) think that Britain hasn't progressed since the empire disintegrated.</p><p>"Two world wars and one [soccer] world cup", anyone?</p><p>Local pig-ignorance is not a local phenomenon.…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Idiot, why do you persist in this delusional belief that only rich people own shares?</p></blockquote><p>What, you mean my retirement savings don't consist of a plantation of magic money trees?  Bugger. :)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Interning for a tabloid in NY, I was asked, on more than one occasion, when I'd get around to speaking with an American accent.</p><p>    "I'm only here for two months," I'd tell them.</p><p>    "So? Speak like an American," one replied.</p></blockquote><p>Of course, in New Zealand, you'd never anyone snigger at…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote>he described mid-80s NZ as being stuck in the 50s of his UK childhood, with the antediluvian BBC puppet show Muffin the Mule ruling the TV ratings. Although the show had been defunct since 1955 and has never aired in NZ, it didn't stop Alexei giving his audience what they…</blockquote>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Idiot, why do you persist in this delusional belief that only rich people own shares?</p><p>On your own site and here you seem unable to cope with the concept that ordinary people have investments.</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I actually like the idea of our Super Fund investing in the NZ share market for the next few years. Gawd knows no-one else is going to.</p></blockquote><p>So our superannuation fund should prop up the asset values of the already rich?</p><p>No thanks.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>John, the 40% has been reported as of the total fund, not of only new investment.</p></blockquote><p>Well that's silly. My portfolio is down 25% but I'm not 'divesting'. You hang on to what you've got &ndash; unless they're dogs and /or you need the money.</p><blockquote><p>John, you don't invest in the…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Late to party, you all been talking about National's plan to mandate 40 per cent domestic investments right... just thought you might be interested to note that the <a href="http://www.futurefund.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/2474/Future_Fund_Web.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Australia Future Fund posted only 1.5 per cent growth for 07/08</a> (CPI was 4.5) compared with 7.4 per cent in the previous…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why do US newspapers come out and endorse candidates and ours do not?<br />Well, not explicitly.</p><p>Because ours are worried that if they explicitly declared themselves to be National party pamphlets, a non-National government might notice that they are an unregulated and abusive monopoly?</p></blockquote><p>I believe it's called Mutually Assured…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Whilst I'd agree that National should have actually said so, I'm pretty sure that they didn't mean for the policy to run forever. Like Labour's bank deposit insurance scheme, these ideas are only for the short term to increase confidence.</p></blockquote><p>John, you don't invest in the stock market "for the…</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, le rugby</p></blockquote><p>Daccord. I was walking down Queen Street in Auckland one night, the night of a big game between Les Touts Noirs and Ingerland. Such was the enthusiasm for the game among one group of young men that they were haranguing passers-by. As I passed, one of them…</p>
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				<title>Peter Ashby</title>
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						<p>Best foreign comedian comment was Billy Connolly's about Invergiggle. He said the place was so quiet he felt like runnng naked through the streets yelling 'bring out your dead, bring out your dead'.</p><p>The world is not entirely ignorant of NZ though. The missus and I were once driving around…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>One of the great aggravations of my life was getting to the Gerard Durrell book where he goes to New Zealand and having him describe it as just like being in England. Admittedly, this was the fifties . . t</p></blockquote><p>Alexei Sale dumped on NZ in a similar fashion after…</p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>That would be <em>Two in the Bush</em> (which covers NZ, Australia and, uh, Malaysia I think).<br />He did describe some things as being different from England.<br />Most notably, the "6 o'clock swill", which gets a typically embellished Durrell description.<br />About the one thing he was ecstatically positive about was the…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Several others thought that NZ was like England in the 1950s.</p></blockquote><p>One of the great aggravations of my life was getting to the Gerard Durrell book where he goes to New Zealand and having him describe it as just like being in England. Admittedly, this was the fifties, but after…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:06:33 +1300</pubDate>
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						John, the 40% has been reported as of the total fund, not of only new investment.
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						<blockquote><p>it would be madness to require the fund managers to divest foreign holdings at the present time</p></blockquote><p>Were they asking for divestment, or simply suggesting that 40% of all new funds should be dedicated to the NZ sharemarket?</p><p>I'm guessing you have no immediate plans to float PAS Enterprises, Russell?</p><p>:…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You give full marks to Labour for quickly 'fixing' the shortcomings of their policy, but assume National's is set in stone?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, actually. There's a huge step in principle there that can't just be tweaked &mdash; no one's even bothering to suggest a tweak. Expanding a deposit guarantee scheme is…</p>
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						<blockquote>The story pointed out that by 2025 the 40% of the fund that National wants to force into local investment will by be $43.6 billion: bigger than the entire market cap of the NZX-50 plus the expected value of Fonterra were it to be floated and quotes a string of…</blockquote>
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						<p>Woo! More Bachmann!</p><p>The <a href="http://wcco.com/election/michele.bachmann.obama.2.844079.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">full interview</a> where she denies having said Obama "may have anti-American views" and then goes on to dump a trailer load of campaign slime.</p><p>Funny thing, though. Bachmann sought a pardon this year for a gangster called Frank Vennes, after he'd donated tens of thousands to…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Jake &ndash; next time remind them about the Boston Tea Party, "no taxation without representation", and that US citizens who live in NZ are allowed to vote &ndash; ask that you at least be allowed to vote for dog catcher
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but raccoons are so cute, especially the babies .... until they sneak thru the cat door after the catfood and can't get out, and mum gets really mad .... (but can't fit through the same cat door) ....</p></blockquote><p>I heard a tale of someone running the After Dark screensaver on…</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<p>There should be an 'American' somewhere in my last post. See if you can spot where!</p><p>I should also add that, upon telling people trying to register me to vote that I am not a US citizen, more than one has said 'that's unfortunate'. I politely told them that it's…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						but raccoons are so cute, especially the babies .... until they sneak thru the cat door after the catfood and can't get out, and mum gets really mad .... (but can't fit through the same cat door) ....
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't think that'll work, so there won't be any below-BB rated firms around. Maybe the higher rated ones will stick around, but like I say they'll be essentially banks.</p></blockquote><p>Excellent analysis Rich.  The scheme &ndash; in it's current evolved incarnation &ndash; won't be lending to Petricevic et al to…</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd guess they probably map quite neatly onto raccoons in that sense.</p></blockquote><p>On a recent drive from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati and back I saw many many dead raccoons on the side of the highway.</p><p>And whilst in Cincinnati I met an who knew a considerable amount about New Zealand's proportional…</p>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Several others thought that NZ was like England in the 1950s.</p></blockquote><p>I'm occasioanlly of the opinion that WWII was the last time that the US had to pay attention to the rest of the world, and once that was over, they no longer bothered, leaving their impressions of other countries…</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(I also do not handle the 'I normally don't like Americans, but I like you!' thing he gets particularly well. O RLY? Met 300 million people from vastly diverse backgrounds, have you, and disliked them all?)</p></blockquote><p>Agreed, and your point is conversely aligned to the one that says if you…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>They're, I think 3rd or 4th in the list of visitors now, after Japan and China, and I think, South Korea, depending on which figures you see.</p></blockquote><p>WTF!!! someone tell rudd that australia is being SWAMPED BY ASIANS!!!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I do wonder, though, what Americans would make of kea. They look so cute, until you find out just what vicious vandals they actually are!</p></blockquote><p>I'd guess they probably map quite neatly onto <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">raccoons</a> in that sense.</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>Someone in Britain asked me whether the Sydney Harbour Bridge connected Australia and New Zealand. Another was convinced that one could see NZ from the shores of New South Wales, on a clear day. Several others thought that NZ was like England in the 1950s.</p><p>And people wonder why I…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh Tom &ndash; we have to get our stories straight &ndash; you have to talk about the giant keas, evolved without mammalian competition, that rip tents apart, the windscreens from parked cars, eat live sheep, attack trampers for their butter</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but the problem with that is that it's true.…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>dude... bali is in queensland. why else would there be so many aussies there?</p></blockquote><p>They're, I think 3rd or 4th in the list of visitors now, after Japan and China, and I think, South Korea, depending on which figures you see.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						And just to join in the reverse 'we're kind of stupid as hell too' thing with Simon, the sheer numbers of people in New Zealand who put on what they think is a Texas accent when they hear my husband is from Texas? Yeah. Don't do that. Also, no, he…
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						Oh Tom &ndash; we have to get our stories straight &ndash; you have to talk about the giant keas, evolved without mammalian competition, that rip tents apart, the windscreens from parked cars, eat live sheep, attack trampers for their butter
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						<p>Yes &ndash; I had someone from the US of A ask me once how long the ferry ride from Auckland to Sydney was, and if he could hike from Auckland to Invercargill in a couple of days. </p><p>I retaliated by warning him not to go hiking alone in the bush…</p>
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						"Some of Bernard Hickey's analysis is a little hysterical for my tastes, but he's dead right when he asserts that it's a total no-brainer to invest in finance companies for a 10% return (vis the sub-8% return offered by banks), if that investment is just as secure as that low-return…
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						<blockquote><p>"So? Speak like an American," one replied.</p></blockquote><p>reminds me of the outrage about obama saying "paak-is-staan" not "pack-iz-dan". you know, the way they say it over there.</p><blockquote><p>If I could count the number of times I've had to correct a comment about Bali being in Thailand, or, once, Queensland.</p></blockquote><p>dude...…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Interning for a tabloid in NY, I was asked, on more than one occasion, when I'd get around to speaking with an American accent.</p><p>"I'm only here for two months," I'd tell them.</p><p>"So? Speak like an American," one replied.</p></blockquote><p>Did you reply "Only if you start writing in English!"?…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Why do US newspapers come out and endorse candidates and ours do not?</p></blockquote><p>All New Zealand newspapers, with the exception of, I think, the ODT, are owned by one of two large Australian companies &ndash; APN and Fairfax.  Corporate New Zealand, on the whole, doesn't support Labour.   </p><p>Sure, the US…</p>
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						<p>Interning for a tabloid in NY, I was asked, on more than one occasion, when I'd get around to speaking with an American accent.</p><p>"I'm only here for two months," I'd tell them.</p><p>"So? Speak like an American," one replied.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't think that'll work, so there won't be any below-BB rated firms around. Maybe the higher rated ones will stick around, but like I say they'll be essentially banks.</p></blockquote><p>Which is why including finance companies is a bad idea in the first place. If they're as safe as a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It was no better in the UK in the 60s &amp; 70s.</p></blockquote><p>I was asked a question about keeping the Maori tribes out of the settlements in Slough circa 1990.</p><p>But it's very easy to get righteous about all this. I'm overwhelmed, but no longer surprised, in NZ by the amount…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But the rates they actually offered to investors were not that much higher than the banks... many of them maybe 1-2 % higher from recollection... So having heard that return reflect risk, you might assume that a return "close" to a banks would also be a risk close to a…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>total no-brainer to invest in finance companies for a 10% return</p></blockquote><p>Except that if the finance company is rated below BB, then they would have to pay a 3% insurance premium. Plus (I think) they'll be putting half that money in the Reserve Bank at base (7.5%). Which means that…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However the "few exceptions" sadly includes political calls (after all guess who writes laws ...)</p></blockquote><p>When canvassing, I've always refused to consider political material "junk mail". I'm sure that didn't reflect the opinion of at least some of the dwellers.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Exactly &mdash; and just to add insult to injury, it's one form of spam nobody is interested in regulating in the United States.</p></blockquote><p>Actually the US has a pretty good anti-phone spam system -p certainly better than here. The "do not call list" is a list of phone numbers that…</p>
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				<title>Karen White</title>
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						I was in LA for 3 months earlier this year & can't recall any particularly stupid questions &ndash; but I was very happy when the cashiers at Macy's, when realising I wasn't "from here" from my accent, deducted the sales tax from my purchases!
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Next question: who would benefit from such an asset bubble?</p></blockquote><p>Ooo oooo I know this one &ndash; John Key and his compatriots?</p>
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						The Mexican stall holders in Tijuana can pick a Kiwi accent pretty quickly and with a smile you will happily buy from their stall.
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						<blockquote><p>The whole point of their higher rates of interest is that it's meant to reflect the higher risk associated with where their investments lie</p></blockquote><p>But the rates they actually offered to investors were not that much higher than the banks...  many of them maybe 1-2 % higher from recollection...   So…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote>However, it's distinctly undesirable for any investment fund to be holding anything vaguely close to even 50% of the market, never mind something that looks more like 100%. The NZX-50 would need to grow by 100% and Fonterra would need to list before the Cullen fund's projected 40% was less…</blockquote>
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						On the deposit insurance scheme, I don't see why finance companies should be covered at all. The whole point of their higher rates of interest is that it's <em>meant</em> to reflect the higher risk associated with where their investments lie. Banks pay lower interest, but they're meant to be lower-risk.…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Excuse my ignorance, but what actually is a "robocall" ? I assume it's an automatically-generated phone call that indiscriminately rings loads of people and recites dodgy messages to whoever answers ?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocall" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Exactly</a> &mdash; and just to add insult to injury, it's one form of spam nobody is interested in regulating…</p>
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						<blockquote><p><strong>Starter for ten: what do you get when you have too much money chasing too few goods?</strong></p><p>A tax cut?</p></blockquote><p>Bzzzt!  The answer is "inflation" &ndash; and specifically an asset bubble.  It would do for stocks what we've just seen happen to housing, with the Cullen Fund picking up the…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Questions asked of me/my mother/other foreign friends while living in Texas and/or Louisiana</p></blockquote><p>I spent an evening in a bar on Long Beach Island, NJ in 2006. The bar was owned by one Mr Batista, who was running for the local mayoralty. His son was behind the bar serving, granddad…</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and upon hearing we were to live in Lower Hutt, we were asked who would be living in the Upper Hut and were they far away.</p></blockquote><p>People still ask that question.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You'd expect (assuming some return to normality) that the NZX total market cap would have increased substantially by 2025, so the Cullen Fund money would be less of a proportion of this?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, one hopes the NZX will grow in the next 17 years. However, it's distinctly undesirable for <em>any</em>…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's the kind of question a programmer would ask when reviewing a specification document.</p></blockquote><p>Heh! One of the askers was a programmer.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It's slightly arbitrary that when northern hemisphere people visited or lived in the southern hemisphere for the first time they chose to associate seasons with the suns angle.</p></blockquote><p>The Maori had a word for "spring", and spring is the season when certain things happen, and not certain others (my trusty…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was asked this month by two separate and equally intelligent persons whether in NZ we called the northern winter months "winter" or "summer".</p></blockquote><p>That's the kind of question a programmer would ask when reviewing a specification document.</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That toeing the line. But yes.</p></blockquote><p>noooo... my eggcorn is much better. especially when you're talking about a room full of blokes pulling the rope together.</p><blockquote><p>You want "interesting" questions, try travelling Greyhound non-stop from NY to LA with a funny accent.</p></blockquote><p>i'm amazed the SPCA didn't put you in…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Questions asked of me/my mother/other foreign friends while living in Texas and/or Louisiana:</p><p>'So, y'all have Christmas in July?'</p></blockquote><p>It was no better in the UK in the 60s &amp; 70s. Spending a year back there after 4 years in NZ I was asked mostly </p><p>"Is it hot?"  I ended up…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Though I did hear an American friend of mine (recently arrived in NZ) say proudly the other day that he was nearly able to distinguish between the New Zealand and English accents...</p></blockquote><p>Hee. I can't really blame them for that, actually. Particularly given that some of them only ever hear…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the country where people walk on their hands with hats on their feet</p></blockquote><p>I convinced a North American that the reason a dryer was hung upside down was that it was a northern hemisphere model and they didn't work in the southern hemisphere unless you inverted them.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because ours are worried that if they explicitly declared themselves to be National party pamphlets, a non-National government might notice that they are an unregulated and abusive monopoly?</p></blockquote><p>Be fair, I'm sure there's a couple of student mags that would endorse centre-Left parties.</p>
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						<p>Traveling in, amongst other places, Nashville, it was frequent and actually charming to have your nationality and similar enquired about from nearly every shop assistant, waitress, bank teller, etc. that you ran across in your daily business...</p><p>Some had a reasonable idea what or where NZ was, others less so.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Why do US newspapers come out and endorse candidates and ours do not?<br />Well, not explicitly.</p></blockquote><p>Because ours are worried that if they explicitly declared themselves to be National party pamphlets, a non-National government might notice that they are an unregulated and abusive monopoly?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>texan: wurz noo zeel-and?<br />me: an island in the pacific ocean<br />texan: iz that south a' mexico?<br />me: pretty much.</p></blockquote><p>You should have told him it was next to Rand-McNally: the country where people walk on their hands with hats on their feet, and hamburgers eat people.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(What I'm *really* waiting for in terms of outspending is the half-hour TV spot Obama has purchased for Oct. 29 to address the nation. It's both audacious and brilliant.)</p></blockquote><p>Yep. I've got my mediaphile hat on for that one. I really want to see what it looks like.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I was asked this month by two separate and equally intelligent persons whether in NZ we called the northern winter months "winter" or "summer".</p></blockquote><p>It's slightly arbitrary that when northern hemisphere people visited or lived in the southern hemisphere for the first time they chose to associate seasons with the…</p>
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						<p>Why do US newspapers come out and endorse candidates and ours do not?<br />Well, not explicitly......</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Crazy-ass congresswoman Michelle Bachmann may find that crazy-ass ranting on national television has consequences.</p><p>Short version &ndash; her opponent in the district has raised six hundred thousand dollars in 48 hours since said rant aired!</p></blockquote><p>Which will doubtless be why she's now claiming she never said what she said ...…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I assume it's an automatically-generated phone call that indiscriminately rings loads of people and recites dodgy messages to whoever answers?</p></blockquote><p>Bullseye.</p><blockquote><p>Favourite, possibly apocryphal but who cares, story about Quayle</p></blockquote><p>Better than wishing he knew Latin so he could better converse with the people of Latin America?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Excuse my ignorance, but what actually is a "robocall" ? I assume it's an automatically-generated phone call that indiscriminately rings loads of people and recites dodgy messages to whoever answers ?</p></blockquote><p>Precisely so. Used mostly by cash-strapped campaigns, because Americans have become so inured to them they tend to hang…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>she forgot to ask for money</p></blockquote><p>Word from my Twitter friends is that the Dems have largely stopped asking for money on the phone calls and are instead making sure you'll vote.  Sample size small, of course, but that's the impression I got.</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p>I think Bernard Hickey pointed out that this bank guarantee covers investements in busienss like South Canterbury, which means one can effectively have a guaranteed deposit at 10%! Who in their right mind would invest in the NZSX? What a nutty scenario!</p><p>From my armchair, this band deposit scheme still…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p>My favorite <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/general-powell-endorses-obama.html#comment-8192655018197805289" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">comment</a> on Powell:</p><blockquote><p>The McCain campaign have done some digging on this Powell guy and apparently he has never done a day's plumbing in his life. Ergo, his endorsement counts for 'zippo, nada , nothing.... '</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Quayle authored a memoir, Standing Firm, which became a bestseller</p></blockquote><p>Bet he didn’t, bet he used a ghostwriter.  He may have subsequently read it, but there are no guarantees there either.</p><p>Favourite, possibly apocryphal but who cares, story about Quayle came from mid-campaign.  The feeling was that they thought he…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						You want "interesting" questions, try travelling Greyhound non-stop from NY to LA with a funny accent.
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Crazy-ass congresswoman Michelle Bachmann may find that crazy-ass ranting on national television has <a href="http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/crazy-michelle-bachmanns-hate-filled.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">consequences.</a></p><p>Short version &ndash; her opponent in the district has raised six hundred thousand dollars in 48 hours since said rant aired!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I was asked this month by two separate and equally intelligent persons whether in NZ we called the northern winter months "winter" or "summer".</p></blockquote><p>I was asked the same thing when I was living in the UK.  By my manager at the time.  He'd been wondering for ages whether we…</p>
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						Well living in Berkeley I never quote got those sorts of questions &ndash; though one work mate thought I came from an island off the east coast of Canada (she was entranced that I'd grown up watching Dr Who, and considered it a kids show &ndash; it did play at…
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						Excuse my ignorance, but what actually is a "robocall" ? I assume it's an automatically-generated phone call that indiscriminately rings loads of people and recites dodgy messages to whoever answers ?
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>'So, y'all have Christmas in July?'</p></blockquote><p>I was asked this month by two separate and equally intelligent persons whether in NZ we called the northern winter months "winter" or "summer".</p>
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						<p>Questions asked of me/my mother/other foreign friends while living in Texas and/or Louisiana:</p><p>'So, y'all have Christmas in July?'</p><p>'What language do you speak in New Zealand?''</p><p>'I met a guy from Australia who runs a big Ford car dealership. Do you know him?'</p><p>'You have your own money? I…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Serious Question:</p><p>What’s Dan Quayle up to these days?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, being looked after as you'd expect:</p><blockquote><p>It was reported in the May 5, 2007 The New York Times in an article about a lawsuit filed by Greg LeMond against Timothy Blixseth, that Dan Quayle and Bill Gates both have homes…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>To those who wrote me to demand, “Cancel my subscription,” I was able to quote the title of my father’s last book, a delicious compendium of his NR “Notes and Asides”: Cancel Your Own Goddam Subscription.</p></blockquote><p>That's <em>gold</em>.</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Starter for ten: what do you get when you have too much money chasing too few goods?</p></blockquote><p>A tax cut?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"towing the party line" was more than evident. i genuinely thought he was a conservative getting the shaft from lunatics.</p></blockquote><p>That <em>toeing</em> the line. But yes.</p>
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						Rich: I'm sure there's a level of Cullen Fund investment in NZ where it could be beneficial &ndash; but that level is almost certainly lower than the entire NZSX.  Key's plan will simply create an asset bubble, which will see his rich mates make out like bandits at the cost…
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						<blockquote><p>like explaining the subprime mortgage crisis to a basset hound.</p></blockquote><p>my oft-related story is explaining where nzl was to a texan.</p><p>texan: wurz noo zeel-and?<br />me: an island in the pacific ocean<br />texan: iz that south a' mexico?<br />me: pretty much.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Undoubtedly, although [colin] was not the hawk in that particular room.</p></blockquote><p>that was always my reading. i saw news reports that compared his thoughts on iraq before and after 11 sept.</p><p>"towing the party line" was more than evident. i genuinely thought he was a conservative getting the shaft from…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"You do realise I'm in New Zealand right? it's 6am" <br />(quiet moment while they process this)</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Their minds are often cutely blown by those kinds of things. Because very few of them travel internationally, and because their media is so insular, the mere idea that you would be living…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I'm still gob-smacked at the Chicago Tribune endorsement &mdash; which has never gone to a Democrat.</p></blockquote><p>The Chicago Tribune is the newspaper that in 1948 released an early edition the day after the election, before they knew the poll result. They picked that Dewey would beat Truman, and turned…</p>
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						<p>Also, on the Cullen Fund thing, the cost of capital for NZ companies would fall due to their having access to an artificially ring-fenced pool of equity funding. This would be paid for by pensioners getting a reduced super payment, or by future taxpayers making up the difference.</p><p>Cheap capital…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>And just for a bit of (semi-)light relief, here's <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-14/sorry-dad-i-was-fired" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christopher Buckley's somewhat bemused account of life as an excommunicated ObamaCon</a>:</p><blockquote><p>One thoughtful correspondent, who feels that I have “betrayed”—the b-word has been much used in all this—my father and the conservative movement generally, said he plans to devote the rest…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Serious Question:</p><p>What’s Dan Quayle up to these days?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>What about the fact that the scheme doesn't seem to distinguish between deposit-takers</p></blockquote><p>New finance companies rated below BBB- won't be able to enter the scheme, whilst those rated below BB will have to pay a 3% fee. I'm assuming that the new regime for them will also involve the…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>shades of the 1997 UK election....all the major UK papers deserting the tories like rats off a sinking ship.</p></blockquote><p>But I'm still gob-smacked at the <em>Chicago Tribune</em> endorsement &mdash; which has <strong>never</strong> gone to a Democrat.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The story pointed out that by 2025 the 40% of the fund that National wants to force into local investment will by be $43.6 billion: bigger than the entire market cap of the NZX-50 plus the expected value of Fonterra were it to be floated</p></blockquote><p>Starter for ten: what do…</p>
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						I'm tempted to give Powell the benefit of the doubt &ndash; a family friend was a military aide working for him during that time &ndash; from what I've heard he was shafted
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						<p>I had my bimonthly call from the Democrats this morning on my US phone number (we gave them money when we lived there): </p><p>"You do realise I'm in New Zealand right? it's 6am" <br />(quiet moment while they process this) <br />"but you have a 510 number ..." <br />"yes it's in NZ…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>re: Colin Powell &ndash; while generally agreeing with you, I personally find it very difficult to forgive him for the part he played in the run-up to the current Iraqi mess.</p></blockquote><p>Undoubtedly, although he was not the hawk in that particular room.</p>
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						WaPo, that has also endorsed Obama this weekend, Discussions (and Editorial or News staff engage with, rather than the Comments section, which wash between the wingers, are far more civilised and one reader included a helpful link to the Editor and Publisher [[http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003875230|list of the newspapers that have endorsed each…
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						<blockquote><p>right-leaning newspapers that endorsed Bush four years back</p></blockquote><p>shades of the 1997 UK election....all the major UK papers deserting the tories like rats off a sinking ship.</p><p>re: Colin Powell &ndash; while generally agreeing with you, I personally find it very difficult to forgive him for the part he played…</p>
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