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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						I know this is an older thread, but what a refreshingly <em>real</em> approach<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/03/drugs-pleasure-reduce-harm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> David Nutt</a> brings!
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<p><q>Done the way it has been in various US states, medical cannabis does, undoubtedly (and as its critics point out) weaken prohibition overall.</q></p><p>No, what it does is make it really easy for the prohibitionists to imprison people.  The paperwork is all there and the criminals are gauranteed not to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sept 2012 12:09:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						Some added context here: <a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/special/2010-12/26/c_13664953.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Top 10: Please show your ID</a>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sept 2012 20:11:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>People buying 20 tablets for a cold or 100kg for export, labelled as something else?</q></p><p>Good question. The original article is <a href="http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2012/08/31/220104.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> (Chinese language). It mentions ephedrine cold medicines being used to make crystal meth (locally known as <a href="http://www.nciku.com/search/zh/detail/%E5%86%B0%E6%AF%92/2407" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ice</a>. I guess this sentence gives you the best answer:</p><p><q>国家药监局表示，销售含麻黄碱类复方制剂的药品零售企业应当查验、登记购买者身份证</p><p>The…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sept 2012 18:14:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>people buying cold/flu medicine containing epedrines will have to register their ID card</q></p><p>People buying 20 tablets for a cold or 100kg for export, labelled as something else?</p>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						Yeah, that Howard Marks column gets it about right in terms of setting the scene for justifying a change of tack by governments.  Bit I ain't holding my breath on that score.
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				<title>andin</title>
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						Good article. Wonder if Manurewa Acting Area Commander Richard Wilkie  has read it
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sept 2012 16:35:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Howard Marks <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/01/cannabis-black-market-iq-howard-marks" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">weighs in</a> :</p><p><q>These findings are likely to be mistakenly adopted by those who advocate continuing the prohibition of cannabis as a justification of their position. But assuming that such correlations are true, it is obviously important that cannabis use takes place within a framework where age limits…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sept 2012 11:57:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						And I wonder, if this particular reform is what it seems, it is actually carried through (a very big if), and I'm getting my pharmacology right, what effect, if any, it'll have on supply chains in the NZ meth industry.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:13:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						hmmmm.... on the subject of drugs, I see on the front page of today's <em>The Beijing News</em> a headline announcing that people buying cold/flu medicine containing epedrines will have to register their ID card. Ephedrine is one of the precursors of meth, isn't it? I believe that's the kind of…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:14:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<p><q>You don't regulate social sanction, you do so by empowering people (and disempowering those who actively harm). Those kinds of conditions can be created under prohibition, but they're not created by prohibition. </q></p><p>The social sanction is are prevented from occuring by prohibition.  </p><p>Cannabis is a low priced, discretionary purchase that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:49:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>A strong social sanction on providing cannabis to young teenagers would help a lot.</p><p>It’s actually this kind of social prohibition that has helped turn around the meth boom. The P-pipe became a very uncool thing.</p><p>Then, under any kind of reformed cannabis law, it should still be an offence…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:44:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						That all sounds good to me. I'm liking the way you're stepping up on this issue this year Russell, good on you. When my sister was busted by her school at 15, she was ordered to receive counselling and suspended for a fortnight, +1/-1.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q><br />A strong social sanction on providing cannabis to young teenagers would help a lot.</p><p>It’s actually this kind of social prohibition that has helped turn around the meth boom. The P-pipe became a very uncool thing.<br /></q></p><p>Absolutely. It's also worth noting that for all the ubiquity of alcohol in NZ…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>(Richard)? Some people are more susceptible to psychosis. How are we as a society prepared to help them?</q></p><p>A strong social sanction on providing cannabis to young teenagers would help a lot. </p><p>It’s actually this kind of social prohibition that has helped turn around the meth boom. The P-pipe became…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:02:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						<p><q>And what would Greg O’Connor et al say about <a href="http://www.leap.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Law Enforcement Against Prohibition?</a></q></p><p>That they’ve got a brilliant street address?</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						(Richard)? Some people are more susceptible to psychosis. How are we as a society prepared to help them?
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>So, things to say.</p><p>The police are required by law to uphold stupid and harmful laws. When there's a potentially long sentence and a high chance of conviction they have to go after it, so they'll always go hard after harshly prohibited materials.</p><p>Cannabis (particularly when eaten) is terribly weaksauce…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>Andin ( and mark) yes absolutely agree the ideal is no regulation and good home environments, engaged parents and a broader social environment supporting informed and individual choices. <br />The above would solve an awful lot of the worlds problems including cannabis induced psychosis in those who cannot handle this herb.…</p>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						Slightly off topic but worth mentioning is the brilliant article by Steve Braunias in the current Metro about a musician who was sent to prison for two years for selling marijuana.
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>So how do we regulate for that ?</q></p><p>You dont regulate for that. Having a good home environment with loving caring parents who will <strong>listen</strong> to the children's  problems as they encounter them while growing up and who are sensitive and educated enough to know what has happened. And, without…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p><q>So how do we regulate for that ?</q></p><p>The more pertinent question being why would you want to regulate for that? How do we regulate for that with alcohol? Prolonged use causes psychosis in selected users.  Surely the ideal endgame for a progressive developed society is one where the greater…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						I reckon the idea that some people are more susceptible to psychosis from early cannabis use make a lot of sense. I have seen it so often with younger people I have worked , some just cannot handle regular use and dip into a series of psycotic episodes and others…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>That was proved by finding mechanisms of causation to confirm the epidemiological results. You can demonstrate experimentally that cigarette smoke is mutagenic, etc.</q></p><p>In the case of the link between adolescent cannabis use and adult psychosis, the Dunedin researchers <a href="http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/001559.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">identified a genetic predisposition in 2005</a> :</p><p><q>The team found that…</q></p>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						Dunno about you, but I've seen much more violence as a result of street-corner drinking than drinking in restaurants.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>no scientist mistakes correlation for causation</q></p><p>that's what politicians are for</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the perils of passive drinking</q></p><p>like violence, you mean</p>
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						<p><q>For example, given that the social harm of alcohol was rated more highly than tobacco, should we kick drinkers out of restaurants and make them pursue their anti-social habit on street corners?<br /></q><br />To save us from the perils of passive drinking?</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p><q>I am obliged to presume that Counties-Manukau Police only send me me huge, uncompressed pictures of illicit drugs because they want me to use them.</q></p><p>Maybe they were trying to give you a heads-up...</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>..proof that tobacco was harmful</q></p><p>That was proved by finding mechanisms of causation to confirm the epidemiological results. You can demonstrate experimentally that cigarette smoke is mutagenic, etc.</p><p><q> utilitarianism</q></p><p>That always takes me straight to Bentham's Panopticon. Something which I think many modern "liberals" would like us all to live…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						It's not the only way, but it is a highly practical way, very conducive to law-making. I think utilitarianism is better than previous systems, with ideas of revenge and so on in them, it's an improvement on that. But it's still a damned old idea.
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						Agreed: Harm reduction isn't the only way, but my final point would still stand on the basis that a critical theorist for example might still seek to be better informed.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Another point is that there are two problems with correlating IQ against drug use:<br />&ndash; there is substantial dispute as to the validity of the very concept of IQ<br />&ndash; there is a cause/effect ambiguity.</q></p><p>Yeah nah.</p><p>This is a part of a long term study done by some good…</p>
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						<p><q>there is a cause/effect ambiguity.</q></p><p>That's always extremely difficult to decouple. The ambiguity stood against proof that tobacco was harmful for a very long time.</p><p><q>This should at the very least, start with balanced research into what actually harms people </q></p><p>I've often wonder if a policy of harm reduction is…</p>
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						It should be noted that the review cited above is a survey of Scottish Health professionals.  The majority of respondents were in community nursing roles, some interviewed, some not.  By far the greater point here is that this was only a measure of expert opinion.  There are some interesting results,…
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						<p><q>Another point is that there are two problems with correlating IQ against drug use:<br />&ndash; there is substantial dispute as to the validity of the very concept of IQ<br />&ndash; there is a cause/effect ambiguity.</q></p><p>Sure. But this comes on top of similar findings in the same study with respect…</p>
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						<p>Another point is that there are two problems with correlating IQ against drug use:<br />&ndash; there is substantial dispute as to the validity of the very concept of IQ<br />&ndash; there is a cause/effect ambiguity.</p><p>Perhaps the same people who use cannabis at a young age also take up life…</p>
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						<q>Speaking of health, there's the latest from the Dunedin longitudinal study. The finding that consistent use of cannabis by young teenagers is likely to result in lower IQ scores later in life shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has followed this important body study. It's very clear now that…</q>
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						<p><q>How about Dr. Donald Tashkin?</q></p><p>Interesting stuff. Good honest science finds things that are highly counter-intuitive, sometimes. So much the worse for intuition. So many reasons based on micro analysis, why cannabis should cause lung cancer, and yet, it seems not to. I was very interested to hear about the…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<p><q>The police in Colorado appear to raid illicit marijuana operations with some gusto &mdash; but they have to be careful to only take a little leaf for testing, in case it's claimed that the crop is being legally grown for medical use.</q></p><p>The "state legal" drug dispensaries aren't legal under…</p>
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						<p><q>There’s this report from earlier in the year, but there was a meta-study a few years ago I’ll try to dig out. Grinspoon’s not the only one.</q></p><p>No. And for a higher-level perspective, <a href="http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/4/e000774.full.pdf+html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this review published this month in the British Medical Journal</a> (blog article <a href="http://neurobonkers.com/2012/08/06/the-largest-ever-study-in-to-drug-harms-places-alcohol-in-the-top-four/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> ), places cannabis lower…</p>
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						<p>How about Dr. Donald Tashkin? He's Pulmonary specialist and Federal Government researcher from UCLA Geffen School of Medicine:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU</a></p>
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						<p>There's <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/wellbeing/6240874/Marijuana-may-improve-lung-function" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this report</a> from earlier in the year, but there was a meta-study a few years ago I'll try to dig out. Grinspoon's not the only one.</p><p>I do not consider cannabis to be harmless. If there was no risk, there would be no reward. Nor does it have no…</p>
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						<p><q> <em>Professor Lester Grinspoon was given Federal funding to prove the hypothesis that smoking cannabis is bad for you.</em></p><p>I’ll readily accept this contention if you provide evidence for it (this is the internet, after all).</q></p><p>Grinspoon's qualifications are in psychiatry. He didn't do research &mdash; it was a literature review,…</p>
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						<p><q><br />In conclusion, cannabis has been shown to have a range of effects on lung function that are different to those found with tobacco. Acute inhalation of cannabis produces bronchodilation, but chronic use is associated with bronchitic symptoms, central airway inflammation, and increased large airway resistance to airflow. There is also…</q></p>
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						<p>One would be fairly f..d up on twenty joints a day. I think lung cancer would be the least of your worries.</p><p>Also, one could use those pictures to illustrate a book on cultivation techniques (all images courtesy NZ police).</p><p>Anyways, the question for me isn't "is weed safe" -…</p>
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						THC RTD. Heard it here first. I predict young women would love it.
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						<p><q>I’ll readily accept this contention if you provide evidence for it (this is the internet, after all).</q></p><p>You could start with Wikipedia or Google, but here's an online reprint from his book <a href="http://www.rxmarijuana.com/FURTHER_RECONSIDERATION.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marihuana Reconsidered</a>.</p><p>It might be worth adding that both the US Shafer Commission prior to Nixon's War on…</p>
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						<p><q>I'll readily accept this contention if you provide evidence for it (this is the internet, after all).</q><br />Yeah I know, it sounds like a joke name doesnt it!<br />he exists, it being the internet an' all</p><p><q>‘Cannabis seedlings and the mother plant’M</q><br />Poor mum incinerated with her offspring...</p>
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						And what would Greg O'Connor et al say about <a href="http://www.leap.cc/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Law Enforcement Against Prohibition</a>?
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						<p><q><br />Cannabis only smokers had less incidence of lung cancer than even non-smokers.</p><p>Thirdly, many prescription meds have far worse addiction potential and side effects than cannabis.<br /></q></p><p>There are good health and societal reasons why cannabis should be legalised, or at the very least decriminalised. And there are good health and…</p>
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						<p><q><br /> The harm-minimisation approach would presumably favour something like this<br /></q></p><p>Absolutely. We well know the irony inherent in the current approach, which has made illegal a great number of harm-minimisation devices. Hopefully this doesn't attract negative attention from the law. </p><p>There are a range of harms and benefits, and a responsible…</p>
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						<p><q>More seriously, inhalation of burnt organic compounds at high temperatures has significant public health implications; implications which are waved away by advocates of an entirely unregulated sphere*. Whatever our policy decisions, these need to be grappled with.</p><p>*You ever see those Facebook posts attributing 0 deaths annually to marijuana? I…</q></p>
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						<p><q>The harm-minimisation approach would presumably favour something like this</q></p><p>LOL, classic. But would it take off? There's even smaller, easier to use things for nicotine smokers, that actually look like cigarettes, but they're not making major inroads.</p>
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						<p><q>More seriously, inhalation of burnt organic compounds at high temperatures has significant public health implications; implications which are waved away by advocates of an entirely unregulated sphere*. Whatever our policy decisions, these need to be grappled with.</q></p><p>Indeed. It feels jarring watching people in <em>American Weed</em> inhaling huge quantities of…</p>
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						<p>Prohibition has made for some great commercial television. What would we do then?<br /><q><br />I tend to think that any relaxation of cannabis prohibition in New Zealand would have to be accompanied by a significant public health outreach. <br /></q></p><p>More seriously, inhalation of burnt organic compounds at high temperatures has significant public…</p>
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