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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>some would assert that schindler's list is holocaust porn.</p></blockquote><p>They've clearly never seen <em>Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS</em></p>
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				<title>M. Patrick Baker</title>
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						<p>Think it's interesting, this one, but maybe strays from the point &ndash; does the emperor (fashion icon, guru, insert your favourite suck-up phrase here) have NEW clothes, or NO clothes?<br />Has the World disappeared up its own self-important fundament, or are we all out of touch?  Dunno.<br />I do think…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:07:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sexual offending against women is far lower.</p></blockquote><p>There's <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-males18feb18,0,6832995.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> as well:</p><blockquote><p>The U.S. Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey (considered our best measure of crime because its anonymous surveys capture offenses not reported to police) reports that rape has been falling dramatically for decades...The crime surveys further indicate that the…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:28:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"OTOH, I'm still inclined to shelter them from more significant sexual content."</p><p>Children are the exception to every social rule. I think making an effort to shield kids from porn is sensible, but you needn't take it too far. If the kids are trying to see porn, then they probably…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:15:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Hi Denise,</p><blockquote><p>Russell, I'd be interested to know your source for this.</p></blockquote><p>I hadn't looked at the most recent numbers, but I referred to a post last year, which said:</p><blockquote><p>Before we depart this topic, it's worth noting that New Zealand's record in reducing sexual offending by more conventional means…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:07:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Denise Ritchie</title>
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						<p>"Sexual offending against women is far lower."</p><p>Russell, I'd be interested to know your source for this.</p><p>FYI, in 2005 MOJ stats show there were 1823 convictions for sex offences (up on 1636 for 2004). </p><p>Over the past 14 years these figures have waxed &amp; waned but not massively.  Of 27,837…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:47:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Business-as-usual violence is just the same. I don't condemn it because I don't think it promotes violence. It just hooks into the violent streak latent in many of us, and titivates it.</p></blockquote><p>I've actually come to the surprising conclusion that my boys  cope with violence in games and videos (they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:46:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"Spielberg filmed Schindlers List in good old fashioned black &amp; white :)"</p><p>Gawd, the fact I didn't even realize is kinda scary &ndash; I just thought it had a bumout mood through clever coloring...but I never did finish watching it. But the fact that I didn't like to see that, doesn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:37:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because that finger's strictly for lovin'?</p></blockquote><p>i've never spoken to anyone who doesn't like to scratch an itch, or have an itch scratched.</p><p>if they say they don't, they're lying.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:31:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						The love that knows no name.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:29:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i'd also like to see a 5-page discussion of business-as-usual violence on tv and in film. i've had sex. i've never laid a finger on anyone in anger.</p></blockquote><p>Because that finger's strictly for lovin'?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:15:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>some would assert that schindler's list is holocaust porn.</p><p>other than one film in the 80s you don't see many directors making personalised and agonised protrayals of cambodia.</p><p>i'd also like to see a 5-page discussion of business-as-usual violence on tv and in film. i've had sex. i've never laid…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:13:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>portrayed in full technicolor glory</p></blockquote><p>Spielberg filmed Schindlers List in good old fashioned black &amp; white :)</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I found it full of full-on disgusting ideas portrayed in full technicolor glory. Far more disturbing than any porno I've ever seen.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, as I was watching Bones last night, with its incinerated corpse in a chandelier at the beginning, I had to wonder why I, or anybody else for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:45:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>""    I'm not saying it's a good idea. Neither is the end of the world, or the holocaust, but I'll watch both in a movie."</p><p>Neither of those examples are ever offered up so explicitly for a viewer's pleasure. You don't get the wokkita-wokkita soundtrack or the everyone's-having-a-good-or-at-least-interesting-time subtext in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>does anyone really give the proverbial rat's rectum where &ndash; or in who &ndash; Matthew Ridge is putting any part of his body?</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Julie Christie might...</p></blockquote><p>Who can save us from this unsavoury prospect?</p><p>Actually, I'm gobsmacked* neither of them is on Dancing with the Stars this year.</p><p>* as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:25:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not saying it's a good idea. Neither is the end of the world, or the holocaust, but I'll watch both in a movie.</p></blockquote><p>Neither of those examples are ever offered up so explicitly for a viewer's pleasure.  You don't get the wokkita-wokkita soundtrack or the everyone's-having-a-good-or-at-least-interesting-time subtext in any…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:30:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Myhre</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I cannot see how you can watch porn and not feel at guilt at enjoying the sometimes very clear expolitation of a fellow human being.</p></blockquote><p>I feel bad for people who work at McDonalds but I love a Quarter Pounder now and then.</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						I'm pretty sure the guys in porn are exploited more than the girls, the vast majority are only paid a small fraction of the standard female rates, get no nym recognition, have to do a lot of nasty shit on camera (including portraying themselves as a rapist), and often have…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Fake nails? I'm more bitter on gross looking tats. Now *that's* exploitation.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:55:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"If porn does any moral harm, it's more through (primarily male) consumers getting used to the idea that the (primarily female) subjects are a tradable commodity, than to those who get a decent wage performing in the industry."</p><p>I'd say the (primarily male) consumers are already well accustomed to that…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know if it's a gripe, so much as the element of consent being so dubious.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, if I was going to complain about trends in porn not being to my taste I would start by focusing on the fake nails that the actresses wear &ndash; surely they're dangerous…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:22:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Russell:</p><p>Perhaps I was being a little facetious, but I still have to laugh (bitterly) at media outlets like the <em>SST</em> and <em>60 Minutes</em>- tut-tutting about 'raunch culture' when (to pick on the latter) the rest of the show was made up with a puff-y profile of Helen Mirren, and…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know if it's a gripe, so much as the element of consent being so dubious.</p></blockquote><p>Apparently that's the point &ndash; it's no fun when they set out to participate willingly, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/magazine/west/la-tm-gonewild32aug06,0,2664370.story" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">according to GGW's founder.</a></p><p>It's only half a sexual revolution when women mainly have the power to be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:05:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						You can do just about anything on Second Life these days &ndash; including <a href="http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/index.php/2007/01/17/political-riots-rage-in-second-life/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">virtual riots</a>.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:04:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"I don't know if it's a gripe, so much as the element of consent being so dubious."</p><p>Yeah, it's a softer form of rape fetish. Not really my bag, but again, we come to this: Would anyone who didn't already think there was something hot about taking advantage of drunk…</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<p>God, it's all a bit wretched though isn't it. Skanky toddlers, PCD, MMF movies and Matthew Ridge.</p><p>What ever happened to a good book and a nice cup of tea?</p><p>I did enjoy the female video clerk's porn renter memoirs though, very good. Thanks to the poster who supplied that.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>From a current Slashdot thread:</p><blockquote><p>it's funny, i just checked out 2nd life last night &mdash; first time since a year or two ago &mdash; and i was pretty amazed &mdash; the place is one big car lot or sex club. really. i guess there are two kinds of people…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"I'm really uncomfortable with what seems like a growth in the "girls gone wild" type porn, when there's a pack mentality and also lots of booze involved. That seems pretty borderline consentual when the girls are often about to pass out."</p><p>LOL everyone's got their own special gripe.</p></blockquote><p>I don't…</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						I'm live blogging 10 Reasons on C4, Top Ten Love Power Ballads, November Rain playing right now, number 4, I'm scared that this means, outthere, there are 30, 40, 50, somethings loading up themselves and their iPods going into 2nd life porn tristes with cats, (the Slash lead break is…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/02/23/second-life-sketches-please-stop-doing-that-to-the-cat/<br />Good old Boing Boing.</p></blockquote><p>Eeeew.</p><p>But interesting in a <em>so</em>-not-interested-in-playing-Second-Life way ...</p>
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						<p><a href="http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/02/23/second-life-sketches-please-stop-doing-that-to-the-cat/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/02/23/second-life-sketches-please-stop-doing-that-to-the-cat/</a><br />Good old Boing Boing.</p>
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						<p>I thought a bit more about the claims of a runaway raunch culture while I was making dinner and stacking the dishwasher. It occurs to me that this isn't the first time around.</p><p>In the late 60s and early 70s, the media was convulsed by mini-skirts and hot pants. A…</p>
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						Jo, to part explain, I am glib though, the Emo clique were walking round in dead relatives clothes scaring the bejeebers out of the little'uns, and they were mean't to be in uniform, apparently part of being Emo is to proselytise. I was amazed at my daughters vehement reaction to…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Right...</p><p>Long time reader, first time poster and all that.</p><p>This article has finally spurred me into joining the debate.</p><p>I'd recommend that anyone who is interested in a more detailed analysis of this start by reading Susan Faludi &ndash; 'backlash', and 'stiffed'.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Faludi" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Faludi</a></p><p>Most of her research and writing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:58:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>"I'm really uncomfortable with what seems like a growth in the "girls gone wild" type porn, when there's a pack mentality and also lots of booze involved. That seems pretty borderline consentual when the girls are often about to pass out."</p><p>LOL everyone's got their own special gripe. Mine is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:20:41 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Are people suggesting that soft porn/inappropriate clothing/tarty celebrities should in some way be censored? (more than NZs somewhat draconian laws do already &ndash; we are one of the few countries to <a href="http://observationz.blogspot.com/2006/02/banned-in-nz.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">try and censor simple text</a>, for instance).</p><p>It would be very hard to frame such laws &ndash; would you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:19:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						In the end Russell everyone Loos'es
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:19:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>sigh* And before the Sunday Star-Times gets too sanctimonious about 'raunch' culutre &ndash; does anyone really give the proverbial rat's rectum where &ndash; or in who &ndash; Matthew Ridge is putting any part of his body?</p></blockquote><p>Actually, you could say that Ridgey's playing the classic male-in-porn role: he really is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:15:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:08:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						*sigh* And before the Sunday Star-Times gets too sanctimonious about 'raunch' culutre &ndash; does anyone really give the proverbial rat's rectum where &ndash; or in who &ndash; Matthew Ridge is putting any part of his body?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:05:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						you know, taking the piss out of stupid fundy americans would be so much more enjoyable if it wasn't so gosh-darned easy.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:04:48 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><em>and comtempt for America's founding principles such as freedom of religion[4].</em></p><p>but, but, they said the other ones were faithless, now I'm a little confused.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:03:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>You can't make <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Democrat" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this stuff</a> up:</p><blockquote><p>The official platform of the Democratic party claims to involve strengthening America.[1] However, the Democrat voting record reveals a true agenda of cowering to terrorism[2], treasonous anti-Americanism[3], and comtempt for America's founding principles such as freedom of religion[4].</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:59:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>Another goodie, under <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Global Warming</a>:</p><blockquote><p>It should be noted that these scientists are motivated by a need for grant money in their field of climatology. Therefore, their work can not be considered unbiased, though no more than any scientist in any other field .[4]. Also, these scientists are mostly liberal…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Puts a whole new spin on "faith-based" initiatives, doesn't it?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:44:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						<p>this one from the main page got a laugh from me</p><p><em>Did you know that faith is a uniquely Christian concept? Add to the explanation of what it means, and how it does not exist on other religions.</em> </p><p>yep, putting the mental in fundamental.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:40:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>There is no page titled "vietnam". You can create this page.</p><p>For more information about searching Conservapedia, see Searching Conservapedia. </p><br /><br /><p>Well if that isn't denial I don't know what is.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:39:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>From <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Conservapedia's article about Wikipedia</a>:</p><blockquote><p>"The administrators who monitor and control the content on Wikipedia do not represent the views of the majority of Americans, and many are in fact not American."</p></blockquote><p>Not American! How dare they!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:33:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I never thought I'd see the day I defended Hi 5, but...</p><p>...as a regular vewer (my 3 yr old son loves it) I think that the producers go to great lengths to keep the girls' clothing decent. Every mini skirt has tights or leggings. Every potentially skimpy top has…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:30:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My daughter and I had an interesting debate on why Emo is banned from her school. She was for the ban, and me, well you know, I remembered Goths...</p></blockquote><p>Emo is banned? Realllllllllly? Who exactly sets the definition?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:26:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>three things.</p><p>1.  I have a daughter and while there are things that I wouldn't like her wearing, there are also things that other parents would ban, which I have no problem with.  At some levels I think I'd even see harm in restricting the freedom of the child.  Should…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:12:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						And Beyonce on the cover of Sports illustrated. All the lines are getting blurred, but the kids know the difference between cynical skank ho and right-sexy because they are being told so every day. My daughter and I had an interesting debate on why Emo is banned from her school.…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:10:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, should females box, play rugby and is women's tennis just porn?</p></blockquote><p>No &ndash; it still matters that Lindsay Davenport's got game and Anna Kournikova never did. But athletes of either sex can be pretty good to look at, and that is <em>one</em> of the reasons  people watch.</p><p>There was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:00:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						Whenever conversation turns to porn, I feel compelled to mention Ali Davis' <a href="http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/tpcs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">True Porn Clerk Stories</a> &ndash; the best writings on the subject ever, in my barely informed opinion.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:46:33 +1300</pubDate>
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						So, should females box, play rugby and is women's tennis just porn? Seriously, don't mention the females and boxing, rugby thing at the only dinner with the nieghbours you're ever going to get invited to.
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						When my daughter was five she would have had to ask me what that meant. And I might have explained that "fucking" is a rude word for sex, and that a lot of grown-ups enjoy it, but that it's nothing a five year old needs to know about. (No need…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:39:01 +1300</pubDate>
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						There's no sex in their violence.
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						<blockquote><p>They happily sing the lyrics because they think they're about milkshakes. It's adults and their broader awareness that turns those things into (inappropriately) sexy.</p></blockquote><p>How about when the Pussycat Dolls sing "I know you should be fucking me"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:20:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>the other major problem i have with this is the difficulty of talking about the whole issue. i remember a principal of a girls high school complaining about a billboard near her school that she objected to (in 2005 i think?), and she got universally panned for speaking against it.</blockquote>…
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						<p>katherine ryan did a really good discussion on this last week on radio nz national (gross new name! sack the marketing people...) still on line at <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/ninetonoon/20070221" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/ninetonoon/20070221</a></p><p>the most telling comments came at the end, when the interviewees were talking about how the skimpy clothing was restrincting the ability of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:10:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now to see if this comment will make it through the filters at work…</p></blockquote><p>Best start packing up your things ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:10:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... reality based, intelligent, left wing progressive types who wince at the exploitation of a whale construct a mental fiction about the exploitation of often the most vulnerable young women in the porn industry ...</p></blockquote><p>But is gay porn different? Is dyke porn (which has existed for a long time)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:08:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Staying away from the feminist arguement (because quite frankly I'm out of my depth on that one)</p><p>My friend Jose and I had a very interesting discussion with Dylan Horrocks (the comic book writer/artist) about his Tijuana Bibles (if you what they are, look them up on Wikipedia, I doubt…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm really uncomfortable with what seems like a growth in the "girls gone wild" type porn, when there's a pack mentality and also lots of booze involved. That seems pretty borderline consentual when the girls are often about to pass out.</p></blockquote><p>The "Spring Break" thing? Yeah, that's pretty creepy -…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:55:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Russell</p><p>Until young men have sex they won't know what it is like. This is true whether or not they see porn. How is having no idea better than having a fantasy idea? They are the same, in fact. All your criticism leads to is an argument for better education.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe what you meant was that actual feminist theorists with something to say about contemporary culture seem increasingly underground, because domininant media voices pretty much just mock them when they say perfectly obvious things like: 'Sportscafe is kinda dumb and sexist.'</p></blockquote><p>If only the paper about Sports Cafe had been…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						I'm really uncomfortable with what seems like a growth in the "girls gone wild" type porn, when there's a pack mentality and also lots of booze involved. That seems pretty borderline consentual when the girls are often about to pass out.
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How many people do you know who have shot someone? Or done a forensic examination on a cadaver? Or stepped through a stargate to an alternate universe?</p></blockquote><p>Apart from the Stargate bit, that's just crazy talk!</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The prison psychiatrist asked me if I thought sex was dirty. I told him only when it's done right.</p></blockquote><p>Part of the thrill of porn (and certain other things) is the sense of transgression. Possible conclusions:<br />&ndash; once everything is permissible, porn will lose its savour<br />&ndash; in the meanwhile…</p>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm even a little prudish about the likes of High 5 &ndash; their music is no more annoyingly saccharine than any other kiddie/tweeny stuff, but they way they dress, I think, is inappropriate for young kids &ndash; girls in particular.</p></blockquote><p>I never thought I'd see the day I defended Hi…</p>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						<blockquote><p>that was sort of the upshot of the story</p></blockquote><p>...<br />Indeed, the Sunday Star-Times was unable to articulate a satisfying feminist theoretical analysis of why it thought this was all kinda freaky.  I don't expect much inductive feminist "political meaning" coming out of the SST.  That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.…</p>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>I think one valid criticism is that it's unhelpful if young men grow up thinking the sex they're going to have in the real world is like porn. For technical and emotional reasons, that seems likely to end in tears.</em></p></blockquote><p>Literally so.</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						To me, to argue pornography is a harmless thing is a non sequitur when when you consider the nature of the business itself. I guess the biggest problem I have with porn is with the way that so many reality based, intelligent, left wing progressive types who wince at the…
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						It's not a question of morality per se though but rather "pornification" as you term it spreading to pre-schoolers and burger joints.
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<p>I just selected "random page" and got this:</p><p><br /><strong>Axis Powers</strong></p><p>__The Axis Powers were the side that opposed the Allied Powers in World War II. The main members of the Axis Powers were Germany, Italy, and Japan. The goal of these nations was to rule the world. The end of…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Personally, I don't think porn has very much effect at all, other than perhaps leading to a decline of imagination.</p></blockquote><p>I think one valid criticism is that it's unhelpful if young men grow up thinking the sex they're going to have in the real world is like porn. For technical…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Lamenting the moral decline of modern society is as old as society itself. Porn's a good target for moralizing because most people probably won't talk truthfully about what they really think of it, or what they like, or how much they have, or how often they use it. </p><p>For good…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Hmm... if you are seriously implying that there is no political meaning (or point in finding political meaning) in the use of mostly-naked female bodies to sell consumer products (whereas using babies bodies to do the same is bad, m'kay, because you, like, had babies once, but not girl babies...)…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>...  no matter how much Russell hearts Suicide Girls (um, ew) ...</p></blockquote><p>Er, should make clear I'm not like a regular visitor there. But I think Posh, the famous one who goes out with the guy from Digg is quite interesting. She has a life (as a Photoshop jockey), devises…</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this talk of porn being empowering just an excuse for looking at porn? Regardless of the management policies at Suicide Girls, they still are in the flesh business; it is flesh that viewers want. Suicide Girls happens to offer hip, cool flesh.…
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<p><em>"... paid $12.50 an hour to parade in jockstraps, getting grease-burns and sexual harassment from customers"</em></p><p>Shush. You'll bring the Kiwiblog crowd in here with talk like that.</p><p>On a more serious note &ndash; yes, I hit those occasionally if I try hard &ndash; the whole issue bothers me, coming…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>I'm with FletcherB on this one. </p><p>I'm even a little prudish about the likes of High 5 &ndash; their music is no more annoyingly saccharine than any other kiddie/tweeny stuff, but they way they dress, I think, is inappropriate for young kids &ndash; girls in particular.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But I'm not sure the whole thing answers to a classic feminist critique either. Perhaps we shouldn't be looking for political meaning in scantily-clad promo girls because perhaps there isn't much of it to speak of.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm... if you are seriously implying that there is no political meaning (or point…</p>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						As the father of a young girl, I find the (rather obvious) rise of sexualization of young women over the last 10-15 years somewhat disturbing.  I also remember that it wasnt that long ago I was a single non-father, and I wasnt too distressed by it then. (but I had…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:56:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brett Sanders</title>
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						I searched Conservapedia for "Central Intelligence Agency" and "C.I.A." No entries there. Quite SPOOKy.
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				<title>Nais</title>
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						<p><em>The story anchored the Star-Times' feature on the rise of "raunch culture", which tended to magnify a lot of small things for dramatic effect</em></p><p>One does wonder what our so-called journalists honestly think of their reading publc.  </p><p>How I long for the UK Sunday papers that used to take hours…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>Re Suicide Girls: the site is run by a fairly unpleasant man who exercises strict editorial control, and sells on pictures to hardcore porn sites without permission if the "girls" try to deviate from the script of happy, empowered harlotry. In other words, far from being a sex-positive affirmation of…</blockquote>
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				<title>Kebabette</title>
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						<p>I just blogged about this too (at <a href="http://www.deniroswaiting.blogspot.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.deniroswaiting.blogspot.com</a></p><p>the trouble with raunch culture is it claims to be about women being "empowered"  but is really about getting attention from boys. Look at me! Look at me! and seems like now the only way to be "seen"  is to flash your…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						The <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Albert_Einstein" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> talk page for their Einstein entry</a> is also amusing.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						I have this theory, born out by experience, that women like their porn in words, not pictures. The site where I work as an admin has an 'erotica' section. It's entirely dominated by female writers, many of whom exclusively write male homosexual characters. There's a fair preponderance of BDSM content,…
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Welcome to www.conservapedia.com, a world where "The early New Zealand population survived by growing bananas, coconuts, yams and taro, and also by raising dogs and pigs" can, accurately, be described as "Reverting vandalism".</p><p>I assume they have critical mass issues. Not enough people to have decent quality or prevent lunacy.…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Conservapedia <a href="http://www.slatermethuen.co.uk/hackenthorpe " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> reminds me of something . . .</a>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>1. It's been almost 10 years since adult "Porn Star" T-shirts were in vogue. I'm shocked that World, which has such a fine reputation for cool, would end up sewing like it's 1999.</p><p>Cool baby clothes are fine, but can't they at least be original and innovative?</p><p>2. I recently…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Re Suicide Girls: the site is run by a fairly unpleasant man who exercises strict editorial control, and sells on pictures to hardcore porn sites without permission if the "girls" try to deviate from the script of happy, empowered harlotry. In other words, far from being a sex-positive affirmation of…
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						<blockquote><p>The early New Zealand population survived by growing bananas, coconuts, yams and taro, and also by raising dogs and pigs</p></blockquote><p>Brilliant. Michael King couldn't have summed it up better.</p><p>It reminds me of what my girlfriend saw written in the British Museum by the Pasifika art.</p><blockquote><p>The natives were happy…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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