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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Politicians who get picked out for high office rather than working their way up through the party ranks tend to be crap at the job, though. (One advantage of not having an upper house is that anyone wanting to be a minister has at least to fight an election.)
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>It’s not unseemly when it’s politicians, because good political leaders should always be on the lookout for talent; there’s no hiring process, either, unlike for civil servants.</q></p><p>Quite. It's an entirely different situation.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:06:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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				<title>&quot;chris&quot;</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:44:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Of course, this stuff is all basically theoretical. We know that in practice, the GCSB and the NZSIS are, at best, paranoid reactionary organisations captured by the institutional interests of international Spookery. Whether or not they are even competent at that is a separate question.</q> <br />Reckon! :)<br />(and congrats, if…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:15:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						John Key has forgotten more than the entire Labour caucus will ever remember!
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>This “Shoulder Tapping” lark seem rife with this bunch.</q></p><p>Mike Williams said on Radio NZ's "Focus on Politics" the week before last that he'd done similar with at least two of the current Labour caucus. It's not unseemly when it's politicians, because good political leaders should always be on the…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>John Key Liar nz<br />About 1,750,000 results (0.23 seconds)</p><p>Helen Clark liar nz <br />About 375,000 results (0.14 seconds) </p><p>Bearing in mind the vociferous hatred the right had for "9 Long Years" and beyond and the fact that she has been an MP since 1981 whereas John Key has been playing…</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>googling "Helen Clark" "don't remember", 733000 hits<br />googling "John Key" "don't remember", 1110000 hits<br />This is without adjusting for the lengths of political careers or similar.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						The disdain that John key shows to his opponents is nauseating. He is only interested in the desires of the Wunch of Bankers in his vicious circle of friends.
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						<p><q>John Key seems to be repeating what the SIS has already said publicly.</q></p><p>For his convenience, this still does not support the rationale for breaking then changing the law to suit; it really is just a bullshit excuse. Key, it seems to me, sees everything in his realm, the conduct…</p>
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						There needs to be a log kept of what Mr Key has forgotten and then subsequently, accounting for his convenience, remembers.
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				<title>Peter Graham</title>
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						<p>John Key says he doesn't have a clue how he got Ian Fletcher's phone number.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUtwR4XM9ao" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUtwR4XM9ao</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:17:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>&quot;chris&quot;</title>
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						As someone who has been earnestly working on preparations for WMD* in cohort with New Zealand based individuals, it's patently clear that the jig is now up and that we must  double our efforts to elude Government surveillance. Thanks for the heads up Mr Key, that's right honourable. My guess…
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>before the EPA would let anything out of the lab.</q></p><p>Yeah, but things don't need to leave the lab in order to be known and dangerous.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>V-series nerve agents</q></p><p>One would hope that the testing procedures for putative pesticides would have moved on since 1950s Britain. There's a very substantial approval process (including animal testing &ndash; shock horror) to go through before the EPA would let anything out of the lab.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:16:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Of course, this stuff is all basically theoretical. We know that in practice, the GCSB and the NZSIS are, at best, paranoid reactionary organisations captured by the institutional interests of international Spookery. Whether or not they are even competent at that is a separate question.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						As an example of how complicated the whole dual-use question gets, check out <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Schedule_2_substances_%28CWC%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Schedule 2</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Schedule_3_substances_%28CWC%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Schedule 3</a> of the Chemical Weapons Convention. Those schedules are a heap of substances that may be legitimately produced and exported (to other CWC signatory countries) but which are controlled because they're also precursors…
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I’d assume that a researcher developing pesticides will be looking for substances with minimal rather than maximal hazard to humans. </q></p><p>Except that synthesised chemicals that are toxic to insects tend to be unavoidably toxic to humans. Scientists didn't particularly go looking for the likes of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_agent#V-Series" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">V-series nerve agents</a>, they found…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:35:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>New Zealand does however manufacture components designed to be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">used in weapons</a> of mass destruction.</p><p>But I don't believe these are the terrorists they're looking for.</p><p>ETA: a point made already by Matthew.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>I'd assume that a researcher developing pesticides will be looking for substances with minimal rather than maximal hazard to humans. </p><p>I'd expect that if they came across an unknown toxic chemical suitable for weapons use, it would be quite likely to have already been discovered secretly (probably in Russia or…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Does this count as “dual use technology”?</q></p><p>No. In this context dual-use is stuff like chemical-engineering process control systems, and high-grade metal alloys that can be used in processes that require non-reactive vessels and piping.</p><p>When you consider that pretty much every significant chemical weapon currently ‘in use’ is a…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>• attempts to acquire controlled and dual-use technology from New Zealand present the greatest single proliferation-related threat to New Zealand, and will likely remain so for the next few years; and<br />• New Zealand will continue to be an attractive target for foreign WMD procurement companies, and could become increasingly…</q></p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						I suppose I could go round the agrarian sector and lift a kilo or two of fertiliser.  (noone would notice the small amount from their shed bags). After a while we will have a Hertz Truck worth, call into the petrol station and squirt deisel all over it, Pick up…
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...and don’t need to try and sneakily buy them in Otara market.</q><br />that reminds me... <br />must get some more<br />yellow cakes at the <br />nice Nigerian's stall...</p><p>;-  )</p><p><br /><em> </joke> </em></p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>used in missiles</q></p><p>Or cellphones. </p><p>And in general, a commercial grade crystal (such as you can order from RS, Element14, Digikey and the like) could be used in a missile or other aerospace application without problem. Much of the difference with military grade parts isn't the design, it's the paperwork…</p>
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				<title>Peter Graham</title>
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						<p>From the <a href="http://www.nzsis.govt.nz/assets/media/annual-reports/nzsis-ar12.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2012 SIS annual report</a>:</p><p><q>During 2011/12, the NZSIS contributed to an assessment on the proliferation of weapons of <br />mass destruction threat to New Zealand which was agreed and issued formally by the <br />National Assessments Committee. Key judgements included:<br />• while WMD are highly unlikely to be directly used…</q></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the GCSB have to be able to spy on New Zealanders.</q></p><p>and for the benefit of foreign citizens, not us. Hmm, didn't he say that would be verboten?</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Or maybe one of these guys.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww</a><br />Actually "Those Guys" are one.<br />The hive mind of the far right.<br />"For the advancement of the Individual, we are the Individual"</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I hope what they would be talking about is attempts to use a NZ subsidiary of a global defense company to access that companies information (something like Raytheon)</q></p><p>That's a point. Rakon make RF receiver crystals that can be <a href="http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/nw240805.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">used in missiles</a>.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Wow. I’m so glad the Mr Key and his mates are protecting us against attack by these guys.</q></p><p>I think he is one of those guys.</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>What kind of WMDs exactly? </q></p><p>I am depressed to think they may be talking about the Bruce Simpson DIY Cruise Missile, that could be stopped by pretty much any basic countermeasures.</p><p>I hope what they would be talking about is attempts to use a NZ subsidiary of a global defense…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>So if I paraphrase from Key this morning on the radio, foreign people [who the GCSB can already spy on] want to get there hands on New Zealand’s Weapons of Mass Destruction technology.</q></p><p>What kind of WMDs exactly? The Paul Holmes CD album?</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Colon (sic)</q></p><p>That's how it's pronounced.</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						So if I paraphrase from Key this morning on the radio, foreign people [who the GCSB can already spy on] want to get there hands on New Zealand's Weapons of Mass Destruction technology. To know what these people [the GCSB can already spy on] are doing, the GCSB have to…
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Damn: I grabbed the wrong link about Colin Powell although it was close!!!!</p><p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/13/colin-powell-regrets-u-n-speech-justifying-the-iraq-invasion/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Try this one</a></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>these guys...</q><br />Cybermen! <br />Dyson with death &ndash; Pah!<br />the big news is <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22079232" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <em>Blake's 7</em></a> is back, <br />with a Kiwi at the helm <br />(fresh from directing <em>Green Lantern</em> )</p>
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						<p><q>This is classic bullshit to justify the “need” to change the law. Go search for a scruple. You haven’t got any.</q></p><p>Indeedy.<br />Our* leaders*are not so much squirming as engaging in desperate distortion &amp; distraction tactics...</p><p>Soon, soon, may this selfish lot be shot over the moon &ndash; of sanity &amp; a…</p>
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						"Weapons of Mass Destruction"  ? Here? In Good 'Ol Enzed? Where? What? The mind boggles. Hmmm...lets see....Maybe  someone is collecting sheep knuckle bones and sending them to Gaza for the Palestinian's slings. Maybe the waste Bull Semen is being spread around the water supplies of ....well...anywhere really. Maybe our pure…
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						<p>Wow. I'm so glad the Mr Key and his mates are protecting us against attack by these guys.</p><p>Obviously we need a Top Secret Agency With Special Powers to protect us against petty vandalism to websites and the like. Stupid of me to think that we'd actually be better off…</p>
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						<p>Gee Whizz Bang Noodle &ndash; after saving the planet from disaster with the visit to China &ndash; I really thought Key was going to announce that Bronagh was going to head the GCSB &ndash; and that this was a step up in security from school friend to sweetheart.</p><p>This is…</p>
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						<p><q>(Also, there’s a perfectly good reason we don’t let the GCSB spy on us even if it would be more efficient, and it’s because they are the external spies: no monolith, as a le Carre character would say.)</q></p><p>I suspect somewhere in there is an answer along the lines of…</p>
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				<title>Jarno van der Linden</title>
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						<p><q>Why don't they go to the EU, where there are no export restrictions and the flights are probably cheaper?</q></p><p>They are. Over the last week there have been several stories in the Dutch news media about Chinese people buying up large amounts of formula from supermarket shelves over there and…</p>
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						<p><q>#1 If the supermarket shelves are stripped bare by Chinese people cashing in on John Key's promise, what do Kiwi kids drink?</q></p><p>I doubt that will happen. I've worked for a supermarket firm, and while NZ supermarkets ostensibly don't supply non-retail customers, in practice supermarket owners (as in New World/Pak…</p>
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				<title>Peter Graham</title>
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						<p>In case people haven't seen it:<br /><a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Greens-complaint-a-political-stunt-Key/tabid/1607/articleID/294081/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Greens' complaint a 'political stunt': Key</a></p><p><q><br />"They can go off to the police. It's another political stunt," Mr Key told media in China, where he is leading a business delegation.</p><p>"They probably get an issue a week from the Greens. We might just have…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Major bamboozling with (pseudo-)science, an alphabet soup of chemicals, and often the “100% pure, clean, green, pollution-free New Zealand-sourced milk”, and images of smart, healthy, happy, strong, pale-skinned (seriously!) babies.</q></p><p>And you wonder why there are strict rules on advertising formula here. </p><p>We do have a major major moral dilemma…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Breast-feeding? (Genuine question: does the formula go to babies, or toddlers? Is it in addition to breast-feeding in China or replacing it?)</q></p><p>All of the above. The dairy companies are really aggressive in marketing their product &ndash; and corrupt, paying off hospital stafff to get names and numbers of expectant…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>paranoid about the safety of products they feed to their kids</q><br />Breast-feeding? (Genuine question: does the formula go to babies, or toddlers? Is it in addition to breast-feeding in China or replacing it?)</p>
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						No Rich, you misunderstand what I was ranting at. There's a huge grey market in imported formula here &ndash; Chinese expats and tourists/travellers buying up as much formula as they can in Hong Kong, NZ, Australia, Europe, North America, wherever and sending it back to China to be distributed amongst…
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						I'd think that exposing a clear analysis of what had being done would result in the supplier losing all its export business, getting the arse sued off it and going bankrupt in fairly short order. Others would probably be chastened into not trying it on again.
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						<p><q>how much formula is going to be left for Kiwi kids who need it?</q></p><p>I'd assume the factories can make as much as they can sell. I suspect the only reason to restrict supply is that Fonterra don't want to undermine their Chinese partners, the sale of bulk milk powder…</p>
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						<p>Not quite on topic, but a question about John Key. <a href="http://e.weibo.com/1654750387/zrNLdD7AQ?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weibo.com%2Fhtflym%3Ftopnav%3D1%26wvr%3D5" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sky Kiwi quotes him as telling Rui Chenggang</a>* &ndash; and assuming John Key doesn't speak Chinese, I guess I'm back-translating Sky Kiwi's translation of what Key said:</p><p>"If you were a Chinese tourist and you went into a New Zealand…</p>
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						<p><q><br />If a supplier puts an undeclared back door into a device allowing unauthorised access, that’s probably an offence under s216 or s249 of the Crimes Act and would be a police matter. So it should be for the police to look at this.<br /></q><br />Yes, and once a threat to our…</p>
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						<p>If  a supplier puts an undeclared back door into a device allowing unauthorised access, that's probably an offence under s216 or s249 of the Crimes Act and would be a police matter. So it should be for the police to look at this.</p><p>It isn't an act of war, despite…</p>
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						<p><q>I’m pretty sure neither does Keith Locke</q></p><p>Doing away with any external intelligence function speaks to a firm belief in a very, very benign threat environment. It completely excludes, for example, the belief that corporate espionage is in any way a risk to NZ. <br />As another example, we'd be utterly…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						An interesting RFP just out on the GETS tender list . The Prime Ministers Dept "Security Sector Professional Development Programme " . A tender looking for " an innovative supplier to provide a professional development programme for executives and senior officials within the security sector. The focus of the programme…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>I, personally, do not subscribe to the Keith Locke school of thinking that NZ lives in a totally benign environment in which the only threats to NZ come from our intelligence services’ existence.</q><br />Neither do I, and I'm pretty sure neither does Keith Locke :)</p>
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						<p>It would be possibly to adopt the Irish model of having intelligence functions within the police and defence force.</p><p>This would have numerous advantages: </p><p>&ndash; there would be a clear demarcation between action against criminality and military threats. (The Defence Act requires that assistance by the Defence Force is authorized…</p>
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						<p><q>‘Just lost access’ implies this has been a regular- and necessary occurrence. I don’t agree</q></p><p>You don't agree that it's been regular? Or that it's been necessary. Kitteridge's report suggests this "service" has been available to and used by other agencies for considerably longer than the 2003 Act has existed.…</p>
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						<p><q>You bet we can get by without them.</q></p><p>Yes  &ndash; but "they" don't feel they can't get along without "it".</p><p>The situation, as it has evolved, is that the Prime Minister can, for the purpose of retaining office or other ill, use the spy services to keep tabs on people,…</p>
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						<p><q>the outcome would be that NZSIS and the Police will seek funding to establish the capability to which they’ve just lost access. Anyone who thinks that won’t happen is, I suggest, as naive as Russell Norman with his assertion that we don’t need any intelligence services whatsoever.</q><br />‘Just lost access’…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						But fundamentally, parliamentary intent is a fiction for the interpretation of Acts. I am saying that you don't need to look to Hansard to determine Parliament's intent, because the Act is clear. It is entirely possible that certain Members of Parliament had different intents. That doesn't matter: Parliament's intent should…
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						<p>and Russell Norman yesterday.</p><p><a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Whole-system-is-corrupt---Norman/tabid/370/articleID/293674/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.3news.co.nz/Whole-system-is-corrupt---Norman/tabid/370/articleID/293674/Default.aspx?ref=vid_2012-11-22</a></p>
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						<p><q>Not arguing that GCSB didn't break the law, Keir. Just arguing that it's not obvious that Parliament intended that GCSB not assist other agencies, and pointing out that someone is going to have these capabilities even if it's not GCSB.</q></p><p>The assistance to to ehr agencies is a smokescreen -…</p>
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						Not arguing that GCSB didn't break the law, Keir. Just arguing that it's not obvious that Parliament intended that GCSB not assist other agencies, and pointing out that <em>someone</em> is going to have these capabilities even if it's not GCSB. If the resolution to the current situation was that GCSB…
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						<p>Intent doesn’t beat plain meaning of the statute: “take no action” is pretty unambiguous. (And ambiguity should be interpreted against the Crown in these cases.)</p><p>Looking at Hansard to determine the limits of a law restraining the Crown is, uh, close to being constitutionally bankrupt.</p>
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						<p><q>I’m questioning the existence of intent that GCSB be forbidden to assist other domestic agencies</q></p><p>I don't have a well-informed opinion yet. Imagine the complexity will be conveyed as this unfolds.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>What matters is how it gets interpreted in practice, </q></p><p>Indeed. It seems that the interpretation is somewhat misused when it suits them.</p>
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						Whether or not you read it differently to me is kinda beside the point. What matters is how it gets interpreted in practice, and in practice they do the things I said. Also, the Act doesn't empower them to take over other agencies' responsibility for their own security, and that's…
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						<p><q>See the Act if you want to know the GCSB’s objective and functions. They’re not what you seem to think.</q></p><p>I read it differently to you and it seems plain enough that they are to <q>(provide) advice, assistance, and protection to departments of State and other instruments of the Executive…</q></p>
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						Quite. Other than advising on InfoSec, GCSB is an electronic intelligence gatherer. They don't run human intelligence assets (that's NZSIS's role). And that ELINT background goes back to their origins out of GCHQ, which is also why GCSB is historically run by people with a military signals background.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I'd note that Ireland (a country of similar size to NZ, which complies with international conventions and has somewhat larger security worries) subordinates its intelligence organisations to the police and military.
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						<p>GCSB derives it's name from GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters) which was created as a cover identity for the UK's codebreaking organisation (a more obscure one that the former Government Code and Cypher School). </p><p>I don't think Bletchley Park had much involvement in actual government communications (provided in those days by…</p>
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						56 times, I believe. 88 individuals. And I would expect representative charges rather than 56 individual counts, if that were to be pursued. The Greens (or maybe Mallard) may be considering laying a complaint with the police, in the same vein as was done regarding Dotcom, but I can't see…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						OK totally dumb question &ndash; the law has been broken 85 times &ndash; I'm told ignorance is no excuse &ndash; there will be 85 charges laid with the courts right?
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Well, for one thing, all government agencies are responsible for the security of their <em>own</em> systems; GCSB is only responsible for ensuring the security of GCSB systems. GCSB publishes guidelines (<a href="http://www.gcsb.govt.nz/newsroom/nzism/NZISM_2011_Version_1.01.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NZ Infrastructure Security Manual</a>, or NZISM) which are required to be followed by agencies that handle classified material. NZISM sets…
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> It isn’t responsible for the security of any of the systems you just listed.</q></p><p>Why not? That is just stupid, what the hell are they for then?.<br />"Government Communications Security Bureau,  We are here to do nothing of the sort"</p>
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						<p><q>As such it is responsible for the security of the Governments networks. So, how well have they done?<br />MSD’s leaky servers.<br />Hacking at the DOJ.<br />Leaks from the EQC.<br />and who knows what else has been left insecure while they spy on their own people?.</q></p><p>It is responsible for <em>advising</em>…</p>
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						<p><q>There sure as sh*t ain’t much evidence of this to date.</q></p><p>That's because there isn't one. It's a joke, and anyone who's paid attention knows it. I mean if they create one, because I know that right now it's the Intelligence Minister who chairs the Intelligence Select Committee, and the…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>if there’s a proper oversight regime.</q><br />If. There sure as sh*t ain’t much evidence of this to date. Why should we assume there will be in future?</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						GCSB hasn't been trending on either Herald or Fairfax sites since the story broke.  I suspect another mess that won't alter Key's rating by a mote jot.
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						<p>As Ian Fletcher said,<br /><q>The GCSB is, as the name says, The Government  Communications Security Bureau.</q><br /> As such it is responsible for the security of the Governments networks. So, how well have they done?<br />MSD's leaky servers.<br />Hacking at the DOJ.<br />Leaks from the EQC.<br />and who knows what else…</p>
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						Oh, there’s no doubt about the intent that <em>GCSB</em> not initiate actions against NZ citizens and residents. That was always abundantly clear, and I don’t think I’ve suggested that it wasn’t. I’m questioning the existence of intent that GCSB be forbidden to assist other domestic agencies, which is not made…
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>Quotes from lawmakers as the GCSB Act was brought into being may reveal their intent.</q></p><p>This Hansard stuff is extremely dangerous. Who allowed this to happen? Surely, if people want to know what is spoken in Parliament they should turn up and watch.</p><p>We can’t have this stuff dug out…</p>
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						<p><q>someone needs to have the capability.</q></p><p>Seriously &ndash; Read Sacha's Link which takes you to the No Right Turn.</p><p>That people are even considering as a solution Key and his like being able to spy on NZers at a whim is troubling &ndash; and that the solution is reported in…</p>
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						Quotes from lawmakers as the GCSB Act was brought into being may <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/no-excuse-for-gcsb-spying.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">reveal their intent</a>.
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						<p><q>Or we could just not do it: the capability creates the need.</q></p><p>That is the other option. I’m sure Keith Locke would be completely supportive of that course of action. But in the absence of a decision in that vein (which would, I suspect, have us skating mighty close to…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>Or we could just not do it: the capability creates the need.</p><p>(Also, there's a perfectly good reason we don't let the GCSB spy on us even if it would be more efficient, and it's because they are the external spies: no monolith, as a le Carre character would say.)</p>
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						<p>GCSBAct 2003 &ndash; provides under s 14</p><p> <q>s &ndash; 14  &ndash; Interceptions not to target domestic communications<br />Neither the Director, nor an employee of the Bureau, nor a person acting on behalf of the Bureau may authorise or take any action for the purpose of intercepting the communications of a…</q></p>
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						<p>The involvement of the GCSB has nothing to do with national security. They have capabilities for electronic surveillance that the police do not, and have been assisting the police with those services since long before the 2003 Act came into being.</p><p>As I observed above, if we don't make it…</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p>Well I think I am asking that. But the remit of the NZ police is to police NZ law in NZ; the GCSB is connected to national security which at least has some international dimension.<br />I think the domains got tangled (as I see it we go from US commerce…</p>
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						<p><q>Can some informed person direct me to the legal justification which allowed an organisation, putatively set up to protect the interests of national security, to operate so as to protect the commercial interests of a foreign corporation? Does cooperation with a NZ police investigation really extend that far?</q></p><p>Why aren't…</p>
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						Ultimately, this surveillance “needs” (for varying definitions of the word) to happen. If the GCSB are not allowed to do it, NZSIS and the Police will seek (and doubtless be given) the necessary funding to establish and maintain the necessary internal capability. That will run to many millions of dollars,…
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						Can some informed person direct me to the legal justification which allowed an organisation, putatively set up to protect the interests of national security, to operate so as to protect the commercial interests of a foreign corporation? Does cooperation with a NZ police investigation really extend that far?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.imperatorfish.com/2013/04/mastery-of-legislation-should-come-first.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Scott quotes</a> the relevant section 14 of the GCSB law:</p><p><q>Neither the Director, nor an employee of the Bureau, nor a person acting on behalf of the Bureau may authorise or take any action for the purpose of intercepting the communications of a person (not being a foreign organisation or…</q></p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>But isn’t the wording seems clear enough for (almost?) everyone to agree there was ILLegal surveilance?</q></p><p>In hindsight, yes, though Kitteridge is still equivocal in her conclusion. She hasn't announced that the law is crystal clear. The situation is far from certain.</p>
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						<p>Sorry meant to finish with &ndash; </p><p>The excuses paraded in all manner of places are coming out as labour and national are likely equally bent.</p><p>Perhaps Key should be seeking Keith Locke's input.</p><p>Shearer's views on this that an inquiry is needed before any reform is something I support.</p>
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						<p>There is also the very real possibility that Police, SIS, and the Office of the Prime Minster used the GCSB to undertake surveillance as they saw fit &ndash; say at the request of the FBI &ndash; and had no regard to any form of warrant or authority at law.</p><p>The…</p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>I think it was a case of a bloke ending up "god" in an organisation, everyone cowtowing to him on everything legal and he not exposing himself to the rest of lawnorder brigade of the country. Insular I think the word is.</p><p>From the report it does seem that Wolfensohn…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>it was only the 2003 Act’s ambiguous wording </q><br />But isn't the wording seems clear enough for (almost?) everyone to agree there was ILLegal surveilance?</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Operating outside the law was standard operating procedure – my view is that Key, Fletcher &amp; even Ferguson would be in the know.</q></p><p>The hurdle in the track of your certainty is that it appears from the report that the institutional understanding within GCSB was that if they were assisting NZSIS…</p>
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						Are you on the GCSB naughty list?
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						I was mostly joking but you're right, he'd see her in the same light as Hayek (of whom  Thatcher was a huge fan)
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						The GCSB report is out this arvo &ndash; Key will no doubt play the victim of circumstance beyond his control/recollection.
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						Thatcher was part of the driving force that deregulated financial markets opening the flood gates that released the wave Key surfed as a merchant banker stoner dude &ndash; Key would have worn Iron Maiden T Shirts under his suits in the 1980s thru to the 1990s – his homage to…
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						<p><q>Cosmic – Key is accused of smoking Dope as Thatcher, likely one of Key’s Idols, exits.</q></p><p>You think he knew who Thatcher was? She was PM in another country when he was at uni. Like 'The Tour', I figure he probably can't recall who she was or what she did.</p>
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						<p><q>Your appalling abuse of innocent apostrophes aside</q>  </p><p>My bad was editing down a longer post re "Fletcher's denial".</p><p>Operating outside the law was standard operating procedure &ndash; my view is that Key, Fletcher &amp; even Ferguson would be in the know.</p><p>The Kim Dot Com saga has been precipitous.</p><p>To rebuild…</p>
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						<p><q>should GCSB head Ian Fletcher’s have to resign over his comments earlier in the year that GCSB had not unlawfully spied on any NZ Residents or Citizen’s other than KIm Dotcom?</q></p><p>Your appalling abuse of innocent apostrophes aside, there’s no suggestion that Fletcher presided over any other illegal activity. Given…</p>
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						<p>We have Kim Dot Com to thank for challenging the machinery of govt that lead to the revelation that there are up to 85 cases of illegal spying by the NZ Govt since 2003 &ndash; involving both the Key and Clark governments..</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10876344" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10876344</a></p><p>Although Key can't remember anything &ndash; should…</p>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						<p><q>It's a small country.</q></p><p>Compared to Russia, Canada, America, China, Brazil and the like, yes. Compared to many, many of the world's countries, no.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area</a></p><p>I know I'm being pedantic, but NZ is bigger than the UK. It's not a small country, there's just not many people.</p><p>And totally agree…</p>
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						<p>Cosmic &ndash; Key is accused of smoking Dope as Thatcher, likely one of Key's Idols, exits.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10876297" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10876297</a></p><p>Goes some way to explaining the brain fade &ndash; perpetual short-term memory loss &ndash; a dope head in a suit.</p><p><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIVPwLn_KsY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIVPwLn_KsY</a></p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>And really, sticking to the line is not hard. “Sorry Paddy, but I’m not going to comment on that hypothetical situation” or “As I said, New Zealand calls on North Korea to …” is pretty much Media 101, and it isn’t even problematic in that context.</q></p><p>Quite. The whole "Key…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Because I suspect the “Baddies” – and historically this means China – will give the NK a bit of a hand again.</q></p><p>I suspect China, although it has plenty of spare young men, will be working to preserve peace and stability. Too much invested in globalised trade, too many memories…</p>
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						<p><q>The ethnic constitution of the US military is very skewed away from the population as a whole, and also away from the wealthy. It's poor black and white kids from deprived states who compose the enlisted ranks.</q></p><p>Elvis Costello has also said that "Oliver's Army" has a similar premise, but…</p>
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						Korea 101. There was a wee war back in the 50s. NK headed off down south and the “Goodies” were left with a wee corner around Busan. Enter the big boys led by Nuke ’em McArthur who cut the peninsula in half and then headed north all the way to…
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						<p><q>Key being asked straightforward questions about his own actions, not telling the truth and then throwing a hissy fit.</q></p><p>concise summary</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The thing that surprises me about this whole subject is how quickly people seemed to have forgotten (had a brain fade?) the past Prime Minister behaviour when she was given a grilling</q></p><p>Not me! I specifically mentioned it in the original post. As I said, Clark did herself no credit…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						And really, sticking to the line is not hard. "Sorry Paddy, but I'm not going to comment on that hypothetical situation" or "As I said, New Zealand calls on North Korea to ..." is pretty much Media 101, and it isn't even problematic in that context.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Precisely. The raving about him having declared war seems to have led some people to overlook the sheer ineptitude of what he did say.
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						<p><q>huge amounts of aid to recover</q></p><p>See, that's the great advantage of megatonne weapons on a 1km grid. No survivors, the place uninhabitable for many years and hence no need or possibility for reconstruction.</p><p>An apology a few years down the track, and you're home and hosed.</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						The PM needs to do better than that on questions of war and peace. Like, that's a question to which a correct answer is: "I'm not going to discuss that hypothetical", or "New Zealand is committed to a peaceful solution and calls on the DPRK to de-escalate" or whatever the…
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>it involved Paddy asking Key what might happen if North Korea invaded South Korea and then the US and Australia went to South Korea’s defence, and Key saying he didn’t want to speculate but that NZ had a record of defending South Korea.</q></p><p>That's kinda what I thought it would…</p>
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						I meant "Clark would have done it too"
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						Raymond, I agree with you in the sense that Helen Clark tried in her third term to remove fundamental rights of free speech and would have represented a major threat to the continuation of a free media had she and Winston Peters been re-elected in 2008. Which is why I…
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						RNZ gave me and Mike Williams a transcript of the Gower/Key conversation when Mike and I were in the studio this morning.  I have discarded it since but it involved Paddy asking Key what might happen if North Korea invaded South Korea and then the US and Australia went to…
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						<p>The thing that surprises me about this whole subject is how quickly people seemed to have forgotten (had a brain fade?) the past Prime Minister behaviour when she was given a grilling</p><p>Remember "corn gate" or this when describing her interviewer <br /> "a sanctimonious little creep" who forgot she would only…</p>
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						Russell, the PM's answer that "[his] appointment was made by the State Services Commissioner"  cannot possibly have been true because under section 9 of Helen Clark's Government Communications Security Bureau Act 2003 the appointment can only be made by the governor-general (which means, under our constitution, the governor-general acting under…
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						<p>To quote myself</p><p> <q>On the "Oh Grow up" side of things &ndash; goings on in the house yesterday were telling: </p><p><a href="http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/audio/1303/parliament_today_270313.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/audio/1303/parliament_today_270313.mp3</a></p><p>Bleah &ndash; John Key &ndash; infantile &ndash; David Carter &ndash; dense.</q> </p><p>The management of the economy and the country as a "whole"(or should that be "hole it is about…</p>
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						<p>As Russell said:</p><p><q>But what can’t be denied is that this whole affair indicates further that when he is questioned about his actions, the first instinct of Prime Minister John Key is to dissemble, divert and develop amnesia. This isn’t good enough.</q></p><p>It really is not. Key has made a…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Are you talking about Kim Jong-un or John Key</q></p><p>Both. I agree it seems Key has had his talking to already.</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>Hopefully Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang will sit him down and give him a healthy dose of reality.</q></p><p>Are you talking about  Kim Jong-un or John Key, I can't tell. But based on the way John Key moved away from his initial comments after meeting Xi Jinping I assumed the…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Not a new issue either…</q><br />Nope. The ethnic constitution of the US military is very skewed away from the population as a whole, and also away from the wealthy. It's poor black and white kids from deprived states who compose the enlisted ranks. I have no particular illusion that NZDF…</p>
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						<p><q>But that’s a job for poor (usually brown) people. The Parnell latte set don’t have offspring in the military. It’s just not the done thing.</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Not a new issue either</a>...</p><p>__"Julie Nixon was hanging around with David Eisenhower, and you just had the feeling that none of these people were…</p>
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						<p><q>Get his son into the military &amp; see if his tune changes.</q></p><p>But that's a job for poor (usually brown) people. The Parnell latte set don't have offspring in the military. It's just not the done thing.</p>
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						Get his son into the military & see if his tune changes.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>reduced to a radioactive desert</q></p><p>Unlikely. There is no reason for the US to use Nukes. Far better for them to obliterate all manufacturing and military capacity using high precision conventional weapons. This demonstrates the superiority of the US weapons manufacturers thus guaranteeing significant upturn in sales.</p><p>The consequence of…</p>
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						<p><q>But he will lead us into war against N Korea?</q></p><p>Could that “story” have been beaten up any further? My opinion of Key is hardly any secret, but I just cannot read his reported words and muster outrage. It’s not even really speaking out of turn, given that the US…</p>
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						<p><q>Any actual shooting will be small, conventional skirmishes which might blow up into full-scale war, but probably won’t. Neither China nor South Korea wants the flood of refugees war would bring them, nor do they want the massive cost of rebuilding North Korea.</q></p><p>The impression I get is that North…</p>
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						Sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought that war with/against N Korea was at all likely (I don't).  Just metaphorically shaking my head at (sarcasm alert) Our Glorious Leader and his willingness to go to war.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p>Hopefully Xi Jinping and Li Keqiang will sit him down and give him a healthy dose of reality.</p><p>And I very much doubt things will play out as you say &ndash; you think China, South Korea and Japan want all that fallout floating around?* Little Kim might be crazy, but…</p>
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						<p>Hopefully bureaucracy will save us.</p><p>By the time the Army have painted the LAVs the right colour, found the key to the ammo store and fixed the boat's engine, NK will have fired off one nuke against Seoul and been consequently reduced to a radioactive desert.</p>
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						<p>He is a smarmy little weasel with as much moral conscience as that implies.<br />He is a disgrace to the country and makes me slightly ashamed to be a NZer whenever I see him dissembling/lying and making his little stomach-churning smirk.</p><p>Sorry &ndash; needed to get that off my chest.…</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						His ratings would go through the roof if he actually acknowledged and apologised but I don’t think it is in his makeup to do so.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>100% correct</q></p><p>For me this is the issue. I don't expect the person behind the counter and the local council office to be 100% correct, it simply is OK for them to make mistakes, especially if when we work out a mistake has been made they apologise (see Emma's rules…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>it is clear that his values are warped or he wouldn’t be the man he is today”</q></p><p>A wonderful comment on Your Views yesterday summed it up pretty well. Supposedly from Key’s trader days, it was said of him <em>"Great radar, poor compass."</em></p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						<p>“It is becoming hard not to see John Key as a man who not only regularly fails to meet the standards expected of a Prime Minister, but who does not even understand what those standards are.”</p><p>I think this is exactly John Key’s problem. He sees himself as CEO of…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Shearer and Labour are not the entirety of the Opposition, but still, he/they should take an opportunity sooner rather than later to have another go at front-footing the New York bank account matter, if not to be hobbled forever.</q></p><p>Indeed. And even though they're not the entirety of the Opposition,…</p>
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						<p><q>it's in Geneva, or Hawaii...</q></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/8515361/Money-trail-leads-home-to-New-Zealand" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Or the British Virgin Isles</a>. Nicky Hager helped in this very exposé.</p>
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						<p><q>over errors of memory</q></p><p>my what a durable line that one's proving to be.</p>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						I thank you kindly. My code-fu is well, let's face it, non-existent.
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						<p><q>It's bad enough that National has Shearer's non-declaration of a sizeable offshore bank account (which he knew he had, since he declared it for tax), without taking the PM to the Privileges Committee on less than a concrete case of misleading the House.</q><br />I see I'm mistaken in asserting a…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Why is there still soft-pedalling this by the Opposition?</q></p><p>Because in the absence of a smoking gun that Key lied <em>and knew it</em>, they don't want to open that can of worms for future sessions. Members of the present Opposition will be ministers in a future government, and they want…</p>
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						<p>Danyl has posted <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/conspiracy-theory-of-the-day-gcsb-timeline-edition/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a timeline</a> of the main events including the Dotcom raid.</p><p><q>Now that I’ve laid it all out like that I don’t really know what to make of it. This reminds me (a) of that season of Lost &ndash; I think it’s Season 4 – in which all…</q></p>
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						<p><q> Not a lie of omission, not a brainfade &ndash; a plain lie. To Parliament in formal business on a matter of substantial significance. Contempt, Privileges Committee ...</p><p>Why is there still soft-pedalling this by the Opposition?</q></p><p>Snap. Robertson calling it a "lie of omission" on The Nation was another head-shaking…</p>
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						<p><q>it seems to me that fascism is on the rise in Europe again</q></p><p>Is it what. <em>Hungary is no longer a democracy</em>, declares <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/austerity-and-its-discontents/2013/04/hungary-no-longer-democracy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the New Statesman</a>, and it's hard to argue with the conclusion based on the evidence.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						I find it instructive that <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/poll-readers-verdict-whether-john-key-genuinely-forgot-his-call-ian-fletcher-ck-138273" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">59% of respondent NBR online subscribers</a> – who ought, broadly speaking, to be sympathetic towards Key – don’t believe he genuinely forgot about the phone call.
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>Why is there still soft-pedalling this by the Opposition?</q></p><p>I never thought I would hear myself say:  "Bring back Lockwood......"</p>
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						<p>Islander: <q>that piece of Danish womanshit is on my humour/horror board forever!</q></p><p>A real life Mrs Scum <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstrj15XpWQ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> what don't like darkies.</a></p><p>The "power" of the Majority Makers: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People&#039;s_Party" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Danish Peoples Party</a></p><p>Jesus. With a couple of exceptions....where have I heard this before?  Oh yes...Act 1 &amp; First scene. <q>The…</q></p>
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						<p><q>oh, that's a pig's ear.</q><br />Far from it, because here's the <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-woman-matthew-hooton-ck-138203" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">silk purse I made from your makings</a>. And the contents, Matthew Hooton's NBR piece, is indeed a fine and rare gem.</p><p>The headline is particularly apt, drawing attention to the point as for Clinton that the lie in attempted…</p>
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						<p>I hear warning bells every time Mr Key starts an answer to a tricky question with, "Now lets back up bit. Some time ago ...." He does this so well that the original question is lost. <br />Mr Key's defenders say, "It was only a phone call for goodness sake. Move…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>that piece of Danish womanshit</q></p><p>Love it Islander +1</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>that piece of Danish womanshit</q></p><p>I was confused when I saw your comment last night, Islander, but this morning I think <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10875938" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I see what</a> you were referring to. I think it's clear from her comments on the hongi and waiata that, among many other things, she really needs to grow up.…</p>
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						oh, that's a pig's ear. Apologies.
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						I'm not sure whether it's a response to too much sugar or some kind of early morning/daylight savings issue deep inside my brain, but can I just recommend Matthew Hooton's piece in the NBR: [url|<a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-woman-matthew-hooton-ck-138203" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-woman-matthew-hooton-ck-138203</a>]
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...maybe the guy’s just bored</q><br />Key has said that he has no stomach for opposition, so maybe he is just engineering his exit plan.<br />I doubt he has much loyalty to the National Party either, their fall from power would just be collateral damage as he moves on with his…</p>
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						<p>Kerre (ex-Woodham) McIvor reckons maybe the guy's <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10875864" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">just bored</a>.</p><p><q>Is John Key so sure of himself and his popularity that he goes out of his way to make life difficult, just to spice things up?</p><p>His previous life as an international trader was all high stakes and adrenaline surges during the…</q></p>
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						<p>Nah, it’s their over-weening pride/under-weenied-size (because they are all males)<br />that they cant admit they’ve tried to  warp/twist/use/abuse a democratic life-vein- one of the hard-fought-for ways  humans have established for  the general good<br />of *all* humanity-<br />I wont say this is limited to politically active  males &ndash; that piece of…</p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Key reminds me of Michael Fay and "His Bank". The story went along the lines that an underling pointed out that Mr Fay shouldn't be doing this with the BNZ money. His reply was along the lines of "I'ts my fucking bank, I'll do what I like".</p><p>John Key: "I'll…</p>
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						<p>This whole affair only reinforces suspicions that NZ right now is being run from a country club golf course instead of a parliamentary chamber.</p><p>And 'knucklehead' is basically just '<a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/tonight---robert-muldoon-interview-1976" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">nitpicker</a>' for the smartphone age.</p>
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						<p><q>hardly the first time</q></p><p>knew I'd seen <a href="http://thejackalman.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/not-just-forgetfulness.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a rollcall</a> somewhere</p>
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				<title>John Holley</title>
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						Sadly I think that Brian Edwards is fast becoming a GOB (Grumpy old bastard). I use to really respect his perspective on media matters but I am losing it pretty quickly &ndash; his disdain for Cameron Slater on Media3 being a case in point. (and I thought Cameron was much…
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						<p><q>He was 100% wrong in a very specific way</q></p><p>Tracy Watkins doesn't mince words <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/8518306/Hissy-fit-at-media-just-doing-its-job" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">about this</a> (and I've bolded the most significant word out of Key's mouth):</p><p><q>When he was asked if he had had any contact with Mr Fletcher since his school days Mr Key said he could not…</q></p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I always thought the director of GCSB was chosen by NSA, with possible helpful input from GCHQ? What Key or any other nominal NZer might have to do with it is unclear &ndash; maybe he tried to simplify the process of rubber-stamping the Americans' nomination and came unstuck.
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				<title>Alex Coleman</title>
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						<p>That house exchange <em>is</em> strange knowing what we now know.</p><p>In the Knucklehead tape, (to coin a phrase), Key is at pains to explain that he only had 16 seconds, and that he can't be expected to remember all of the damn things, and that he gets up very early…</p>
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						Good summary. And yes, Bryce's was epic. I almost needed a lie down after poring through it.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						See also: <a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2013/04/05/gordon-campbell-on-ian-fletcher-jon-stewart-and-the-new-avian-flu/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gordon Campbell</a>.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:34:32 +1300</pubDate>
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