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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Lovely words Russell and you have my sympathy for your loss.</p><p>My brother died when I was 25, after 6 months of brain cancer. I think I was still too young to properly feel the loss and certainly way too young to be able to put words as good as…</p>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Kia kaha to you and your mum Russell &ndash; we lost our sister Sue to the same disease nearly 6 years ago now. Mum will never really recover from it, but we do learn to live with the grief and we do always get little reminders of the myriad of…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:25:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I am so sorry that this is happening, Geoff. Being old is no fun for the elderly, and dying is no fun for the living. I was just saying to a young friend who is on death watch that it's one of most pure expressions of love, holding vigil. May…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:25:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>My Great-Aunt's last food was Christmas pud and custard: her favourite food. </p><p>My sympathies Geoff to you and your family.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:02:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>What a wonderful story about your brother-in-law, Russell.  </p><p>Peter, Josephine's father, stirred a little on Christmas Day and scoffed down smoked salmon, after not eating for days.  Must have sparked memories of Christmas' past in the old fellow.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:31:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>Russell, thank you for this moving post. You have found words of succour and insight. </p><p>And thank you for sparking and being the centre of a community where such a post is respected and honoured.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 13:57:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Having not ever lost someone properly close to me, I can only imagine what it is to experience.</p><p>Sending love your way, Russell, Geoff, Emma, and all who are feeling the loss of a loved one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 18:04:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>‘Merry Christmas’ seems a bit forced</q></p><p>So sorry, Geoff. x</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:00:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh Geoff, that sounds terrible, but being with your daughter seems the right thing.  My deepest sympathy.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 10:47:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Thank you, Russell.  <br />This is strangely detached Christmas as we are in Nelson on a deathbed watch.  Josephine's father is in steep decline, stricken with cancer, after living a life as a rugged forester.  It may be today or tomorrow or next week but I am returning home today as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 09:37:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Phil Wallington</title>
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						That is a lovely and loving tribute to your sister. I lost my "big" brother 10 years ago on Boxing Day... I miss him every day but good memories abound and the great sadness I believe is how he has missed seeing his four daughters grow into strong, confident and…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 07:33:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						People find it extraordinarily hard to talk about loss. I think what they are thanking you for is that your expression of your grief and loss reflects how they feel about their own losses, and give them words for what they're feeling.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 07:14:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Bennett</title>
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						Thank you for sharing Russell. I'm thinking of your family and your loss this Christmas. My sister died 23 years ago (she was 23). She will always be with us in her absence.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 23:32:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I  want to join the others thanking you for sharing this story Russell</q></p><p>You're about the millionth person who's thanked me on one forum or another today, and it's a response I genuinely didn't expect. So thank you, too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 22:40:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greville Whittle</title>
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						<p><q>it's not that it gets easier it just gets different</q></p><p>This is true for me as well, you never get back to normal as it were, you just find a new normal. It is our second Christmas without Mum and we are relearning what works for us all.</p><p>I want…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 22:37:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>Much love russell</p><p>For me it's not that it gets easier it just gets different<br />For us we totally Changed christmas and spend it at Te Papa or going to the movies</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:39:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Nick Kearney</title>
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						A poignant tribute, Russell.  Nice words, at the appropriate time.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:34:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David MacGregor</title>
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						<p>Thank you Russell.<br />Love and loss seem to go together. <br />Like bitter and sweet.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:06:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Russell, your sister was obviously Quite Something, and she looks like one of those somethings was “a bunch of fun”. We are lucky to have had such people in our lives, for however long.</q></p><p>Example: Greg’s surname is also Brown. When they married, she went around insisting that she was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 18:05:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David MacGregor</title>
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						<p>Thank you Russell.<br />Love and loss seem to go together. <br />Like bitter and sweet.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:55:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross McA.</title>
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						Thanks Russell and sorry to hear that. I know from personal experience that it's not easy. I lost my younger sister a few years ago to lung cancer (she never smoked).  You have a gift for writing and when I read your story it bought tears to my eyes.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 17:27:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						It's not easy for most N Z men to share these sort of feelings, so once again thank you for some nice writing, unlike some/most bloggers you are a journalist and it shows
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:49:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Russell, thank you for sharing this with us. Karen sounds amazing. And she would be, if she's anything like you. So sorry for your loss. Love and big hugs.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:30:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Thank you, Russell.  The first few Xmases after Dad died were hard, and there's still a gap in proceedings, but it's got easier to bear.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:25:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>They say the first is the hardest, but I think they’ll all be difficult.</q></p><p>I'm up to number three now, and talking to my boss/friend today, who is going through her first without her Dad. </p><p>My experience is that the first is worst, by miles. They get easier, but the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:06:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Condolences. My eldest sister succumbed to a brain haemorrhage a little over 6 years ago now. The blow was softened by the fact that we knew it would happen eventually.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Amberleigh, the funny thing is that this year I encouraged you to do something I hadn't yet been able to do myself. And then Mum turned up  yesterday with that photograph and I knew it was time. I'll be thinking of you and your mum tomorrow too. x
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:49:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Amberleigh Jack</title>
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						Russell, thank you for sharing. Difficult to do, I'm sure, but a wonderful tribute. I'll raise a glass for you and your family and think of you tomorrow. They say the first is the hardest, but I think they'll all be difficult. Made only slightly less so by that final…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:42:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						I lost a friend this year as well as starting a new job &ndash; I had a rough year. Hugs* to all.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:38:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>John Holley</title>
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						<p>Thanks  Russell for sharing with us &ndash; over the years we have, become, I think, a bit of an extended whanau, because of you honesty and openess. &ndash; and this exemplifies why you have our support and loyalty.</p><p>Kia Kaha</p>
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				<title>wendyf</title>
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						Thank you for sharing, Russell, and so warmly.  And thank you to all who share here. I don't often post, but believe me &ndash; this place has done, and still does, much to remind me that there are Good People out there.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:22:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TheotherSimonYoung</title>
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						Thank you Russell. A timely reminder to be kind. Hope it is a special holiday for you and your family.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:19:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rebecca Williams</title>
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						<p>Thank you for sharing that Russell and my heartfelt sympathies for the loss of your lovely sister. Today I'm remembering my little boy Jude who died before he was born on Christmas Eve. </p><p>It's definitely a mark if the integrity and respect inherent in this community that I post here…</p>
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				<title>Nora Leggs</title>
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						For you Russell.   And for everyone whose Christmas time is coloured by pain, loss, grief and heartache.  It's not always the easiest time.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:07:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mike O&#039;Connell</title>
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						Lovely, heartfelt story Russell. What a lovely sister you have.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:47:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						Thanks for sharing Russell &ndash; families are so important.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:23:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>John Morrison</title>
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						<p>Great article and sister Russell. I can imagine how hard it will be without her when you celebrate Christmas with your mum for the first time.<br />As far as I'm concerned 2013 has been a real b**ch of a year, too many deaths of close friends and most dearest, my…</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						Arohanui to you and your family, Russell.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:17:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Robb</title>
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						Thanks for sharing this, Russell.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:04:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p>Thanks Russell. This is a time for remembering the empty spaces at the table. We have a few of our own, as I'm sure many here do.</p><p>I'm so pleased to be part of the goodness that is Public Address, and contribute my little bit.</p><p>Jackie, what you started is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:00:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						What a spunky lady! Thank you for sharing this with us, and big Christmas love to you all.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:54:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh darling heart. When I see you soon, you know there will be vast hugs and much love from me to you. In the meantime, enjoy your mum, and remember Karen with love (and tears are good too. "Tears are love" I would tell Carol).
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:51:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I was sorry to hear about Karen, and glad that time has helped you get some words down. Thanks for sharing this, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
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				<title>Robert Fox</title>
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						Sorry to hear about your loss Russell. A very touching to tribute to your sister who sounds like she was a lovely, warm person who will obviously be hugely missed. Best of wishes for the festive period.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Thank you.
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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