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Paul Rowe

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:02:52 +1200

As for drummers, I was listening to some Stone Roses earlier today, and have to say that the baggy early 90's shuffle as pioneered by Reni still sounds pretty darn good.

I always thought that riff was nicked from mid-period Ringo, but I agree, it sets up the whole baggy…

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:37:14 +1200

Sofie – Mishi/Mishka a 19yrold russian black, will be accompanying-
much missed by a wide family- aue aue aue-

Shooshy was also black with eyes.....eyes like an old russian lady,I wonder....
My friend found out Wednesday morn about the kidney failure so he was biding time until yesterday.Rest in Peace.

Islander

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:30:03 +1200

Sofie – Mishi/Mishka a 19yrold russian black, will be accompanying-
much missed by a wide family- aue aue aue-

Paul Williams

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:21:18 +1200

I think of Gary Brain every time the flight attendant tells us to be careful opening the overhead lockers as items may have shifted in flight :-(

Me three!

I recall him being interviewed prior to his accident about percussion generally – was very cool without being try-hard or patronising…

Richard Llewellyn

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:14:51 +1200

Dark irony corner –
Dr Dragan 'David' Dabić/ Radovan Karadžić's email address:
healingwounds @ dragandabic . com

Ooh, I'm with Alistair, thats creepy.

As for drummers, I was listening to some Stone Roses earlier today, and have to say that the baggy early 90's shuffle as pioneered by Reni still…

Simon Grigg

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:41:04 +1200

I wouldn't be surprised if Reed's objection is that Doug Yule's Lou impersonation is so good.

And as we all know it doesn't take much to make Lou grumpy.

3410

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:46:25 +1200

I wouldn't be surprised if Reed's objection is that Doug Yule's Lou impersonation is so good. DY sang lead vox on 4 out of 10 Loaded tracks, and even if you know the album well, it's fairly hard to tell which ones without checking. I didn't notice for years.

Simon Grigg

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:12:34 +1200

Speaking of which, can anybody point me to a digital copy of Squeeze?

Hasn't it been blocked from CD release by the owners of the name..ie Reed & Cale.

I have a vinyl copy..it's ok as 3410 says but it ain't the VU

3410

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:09:31 +1200

Speaking of which, can anybody point me to a digital copy of Squeeze?

Heh. I was going to ask that too. There's a pretty bad copy floating around, cobbled together from 2 or 3 different rips. The album – judged on its own merits, rather than as a Velvets album…

Paul Rowe

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:45 +1200

I actually quite like Billy Yule (Live at Max's Kansas City, plus Oh, Sweet Nuthin' and Lonesome Cowboy Bill on Loaded).

Speaking of which, can anybody point me to a digital copy of Squeeze? I know it's supposed to be pretty average, but I'm curious about it. Plus, I once…

3410

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:55:07 +1200

Moe Tucker has always been a favourite of mine.

I actually quite like Billy Yule (Live at Max's Kansas City, plus Oh, Sweet Nuthin' and Lonesome Cowboy Bill on Loaded).

mark taslov

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:06:15 +1200

many good drummers out there, but only one looks so damn happy:

Mark Thomas

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:08:28 +1200

oooh, UMG have prevented embedding. i guess it messes with their advert-based commercial model

Mark Thomas

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:15:28 +1200

If you are listening to "No one knows" in the car, there's a real chance you'll set off the airbag during the chorus

Hooray! Glad you agreed. I was getting concerned about all these drummers from before the 90's.... :)

I think there's something about the mix on SFTD that…

Andrew G

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:24:52 +1200

Moe Tucker has always been a favourite of mine. She has a style that is totally in tune with the VU songs, and that's not easy.
At the other end of the scale, Dave Grohl on the QOTSA, "songs for the deaf" record (as someone mentioned earlier) is one of…

Geoff Lealand

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:03:04 +1200

I think of Gary Brain every time the flight attendant tells us to be careful opening the overhead lockers as items may have shifted in flight :-(

Me too. I have yet to experience anything shifting (or the earth moving) but he sure was dealt a mighty blow.

In respect…

B Jones

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:18:16 +1200

I think of Gary Brain every time the flight attendant tells us to be careful opening the overhead lockers as items may have shifted in flight :-(

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:03:28 +1200

And let's not forget Clyde Stubblefield, who laid down (I think) the most sampled drum solo ever (5.35).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIO3A5NzdOk

AIN'T IT FUNKY!

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:59:20 +1200

Not being much of a rock chick, I'll got for the funky drummers and have a great affection for Sheila E. — who is not only a kick-arse drummer/percussionist but managed to pull off the 80's Prince dress code (couture hooker) with a surprising amount of dignity. :)

Paul Rowe

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:57:15 +1200

I remember Pavement had two drummers when they came out in 1994 (?). They still had their old geezer drummer, who was wandering the Powerstation before the gig started offering people bananas.

Newsprint

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:49:37 +1200

Gary Brain, anyone? Does anyone know who I mean?

Yes!
Have very vivid memory of his visit to my intermediate school in the early eighties. At an impressionable age he made the orchestra cool.

Deborah

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:12:08 +1200

It's still your birthday here in Adelaide, Russell, so... Happy Birthday.

Drummers... Gary Brain, anyone? Does anyone know who I mean? Or my friend's lad. 16 and amazing and I won't put his name here because it's not mine to put here, but in 5 years time I will come…

Steve Barnes

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:33:55 +1200

Always felt that vibe with a mate Bevin in the headless chooks as well. It certainly commands your attention.

I thought that was NRA wasnit?

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:54:42 +1200

That's right, two drummers. I remember sitting there,

Always felt that vibe with a mate Bevin in the headless chooks as well. It certainly commands your attention.

matt m-a

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:36 +1200

I seem to remember the Def Leppard drummer having only one arm.

And yes, he was good – to us back in Wanganui circa 1986...

Closer to home, we had a bloke who drummed with us in a high school band – kept on doing these "jazz" fills, which I…

davidamstalden

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:46 +1200

Excuse the rude interruption, but just for reasons of accuracy is it Whimps or Wimps? I need to know.

(Also, Dr. Horrible rulz. Seriously. Google it. Tell your friends. He's better than blueberry muesli. That's right).

Peter Darlington

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:35:57 +1200

And on Moon: here's a Who track which should have been better known... and which also shows where Jim Henson and is co-Muppetteers got the model for their drummer.

The Moon biography Dear Boy has a fairly creepy bit where he's desperately seeking treatment for his extreme alcohol and drugs…

rodgerd

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:26:22 +1200

Personally I'm a big fan of Nicko McBrain because not only is he a fantastic drummer (I offer you such show-off tracks as Run to the Hills(1) or 2 Minutes to Midnight), he's got a sense of humour.

If I were a drummer, I'd be tempted by his drum clinics,…

Robyn Gallagher

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:16:51 +1200

My awesome drumming moment was in 1995 (or thereabouts) when Daniel Mancini's band Mancini played at Waikato Uni's Wailing Bongo bar and drafted Biff Bangle on a second drumkit. That's right, two drummers. I remember sitting there, entranced by the raw tribal energy coming from the stage. There were other…

Simon Grigg

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:08:38 +1200

It's hard to have a drum thread without mentioning the most sampled man in the world, Clyde Stubblefield, without whom.....

chris mcnair

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:21:35 +1200

And, finally, Happy Birthday Russell....

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:25:03 +1200

Roland 303

Paul Williams

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:00:55 +1200

Taking in a more recent, less rock, perspective I'd add Coldplay's drummer, Will Champion, to the mix for the sheer ferocity of his playing. I'm over the band, having seen them once too often, but man he plays hard.

Paul Rowe

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:55:56 +1200

Punk rock drum solo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbQSFWAEc8k

David Ritchie

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:47:21 +1200

Apropos of drumming, Mr. Buddy Rich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erE8WTngaAY

peter mclennan

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:26:16 +1200

Happy birthday, Mr B. Hope its a good one!

Blake Monkley

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:24:50 +1200

I seem to remember the Def Leppard drummer having only one arm.

Since most are naming male drummers ... I will go with Sheila.E.

Happy Birthday RB.

3410

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:00:21 +1200

Well done!

Rob Hosking

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:57:50 +1200

Ooh Oohh!! Me Please Mr Kotter!!

Small fAces Ogdens Nut Gone Flake!!

3410

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:53:22 +1200

Quick quiz:

Name the LP from whence comes the snippet of introduction on the "Relay" vid.

Danielle

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:43:15 +1200

Gene Krupa is a *badass*.

(I also vote for Al Jackson, Jr, member of the MGs and Stax house drummer; Pete Thomas, cadaverous-looking Attraction; and good old Jim Keltner, just for having drummed on, like, everything in the whole world. Even Gary Wright's 'Dreamweaver', for goodness' sake!)

Paul Williams

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:38:44 +1200

Oh yeah Krupa's amazing, Joe Morello too. There's a youtube (can't access this at work) of Brubeck's Take Five with the famous Morello solo... or you can follow it from a link here (and if you do, you should also check this out, the link to the Purdy shuffle

Peter Darlington

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:30:00 +1200

I'm going to sound hopelessly out dated but...
... Gene Krupa is my favourite drummer, particularly 'Sing, sing, sing' with Benny Goodman.

Well, to bring it full circle, Gene Krupa was Moonie's favourite drummer and you can certainly get a sense of free flowing jazz rhythms in Moon's style.

uroskin

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:28:57 +1200

Stratos Freeview satellite only but printable schedules are here: http://www.stratostv.co.nz/excel/stratosthisweek.php

David Cormack

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:27:38 +1200

Gene Krupa is my favourite drummer, particularly 'Sing, sing, sing' with Benny Goodman

Oh I totally agree.

When that beat starts up before the brass at the beginning....awesome

Rob Hosking

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:26:40 +1200

My manners... yeah, happy B'Day, Russell.

On the drumming theme... I'd also nominate the whoever drummed on Smokey Robinson's 'Tears of a Clown': it really drives the entire track.

And on Moon: here's a Who track which should have been better known... and which also shows where Jim Henson and…

Public Servant on a tea-break.

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:20:07 +1200

I'm going to sound hopelessly out dated but...

... Gene Krupa is my favourite drummer, particularly 'Sing, sing, sing' with Benny Goodman.

Alastair Jamieson

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:19:41 +1200

Dark irony corner –
Dr Dragan 'David' Dabić/ Radovan Karadžić's email address:

healingwounds @ dragandabic . com

Paul Rowe

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:15:09 +1200

And I believe it was Marcus Greil who said Levon Helm's drumming could bring you to tears (in a good way)

Paul Rowe

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:13:43 +1200

Moon the Loon gets my vote, not as the best drummer, but the biggest personality.

Ringo was one of those drummers who held the sound together – his style is so recognisable. Glen Matlock puts the Pistols sound down the Paul Cook, and I remember seeing both Strummer and Jones…

Rogan Polkinghorne

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:16 +1200

Happy Birthday RB!

Mark Thomas

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:04:19 +1200

Dave Grohl was awesome drumming for queens of the stone age / songs for the deaf

giddy up!

dc_red

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:39:52 +1200

Happy Birthday RB!

Now I must attend to a fractious newborn, who believes sleep is only for whimps. But when he finally nods off, I shall raise a glass of Merlot in the direction of Pt Chev.

Don Christie

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:33:37 +1200

Ticket To Ride

That got me thinking...listen to this background hysteria (another Greek thing). It is unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeFDTS50wEs&feature=related

Paul Williams

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:13:10 +1200

Happy Birthday also.

I saw Gilson Lavis recently as part of Jools Holland's band; unbelievably cool drummer who looks effortless (shit-hot band and gig too).

Rob Hosking

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:10:21 +1200

Seem to recall someone calculated, back in the mid-70s, that Keith Moon put out in one performance, the equivalent energy output of the Battersea Power Station over the same time period.
No, I don't know how you'd calculate that either.

BTW, isn’t Mick Fleetwood quite highly rated, despite never being…

Aidan

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:59:41 +1200

Entire nation states have gone to war on the question of which of 720p or 1080i is better (especially for sport).

See you're getting more actual pixels in yer eyeballs per second in 720p than 1080i. For fast moving images the progressive scan can be better .. if you don't…

Richard Irvine

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:59:09 +1200

Here's some great TDF pics, big enough for desktops and that. I *bet* the racing looks cool on an HD setup.

My fav drummer is Grant Hart from Husker Du. You can't beat a singing drummer. Just look at the Eagles.

Happy B'day Russell.

3410

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:49:35 +1200

Moulty

Here's the Barbarians in action (Moulty featured from 1:30):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Akyb8StzqbA

Raymond A Francis

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:41:14 +1200

Happy birthday RB

And a query (maybe your dear partner may know if you don't)
Why is it so hard to find a printed schedule of programms for the Freeview channels
I know I can scan through them with the electronic gizmo but why is nothing in print

And may…

Simon Grigg

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:33:39 +1200

'Rain'! I vote for 'Rain'!

Indeed and Helter Skelter......and Come Together for that matter..and...

Joe Wylie

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:33:30 +1200

Mike Dooley was a powerhouse unlike any other I've seen.

Amen to that.
If drummers are athletes then Victor "Moulty" Moulton deserves some kind of special olympics award:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulty

Danielle

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:29:03 +1200

and quietly many drummers rate Ringo Starr even if only for the Ticket To Ride

'Rain'! I vote for 'Rain'!

(HB, RB.)

LegBreak

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:23:30 +1200

Trying to work out the exact age?

A year younger than John Key; whatever that is.

Have a good day RB. Enjoy watching men on drugs with your HD.

BTW, isn’t Mick Fleetwood quite highly rated, despite never being that challenged?

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:19:45 +1200

Happy Birthday us!
I hope yours is better than mine. My Zune died last night (6 months old!) and I've already had the limp rendition of Happy Birthday sung to be at my obligatory office morning tea.

.....Happy Birthday dear Russell and David, happy birthday for two.xxx PS, May Zune…

Simon Grigg

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:18:53 +1200

2 favourite rawk drummers

and quietly many drummers rate Ringo Starr even if only for the Ticket To Ride, as I do. But my favourite drummer is closer to home, Mike Dooley was a powerhouse unlike any other I've seen.

Simon Grigg

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:15:39 +1200

(if I treat punk ((Paul Cook)) as a separate category)

sadly you can't. Paul Cook in Mojo a month or two back when questioned about his new band with some guy from Def Leopard (!!?!) said "I'm just a rock drummer" or words to that effect.

What with that tie…

Hadyn Green

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:02:35 +1200

What would call lesbians from Lesbos?
Greek.

Many Happy Returns Russell!
May all of your lesbians be authentic*, all of your drummer fit and your cyclists highly defined.

*I just realised a marketing opportunity there

Thom James

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:58:25 +1200

To be a drummer you must be either a) superfit, b) hyperactive, or c) a gorilla

Peter Darlington

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:54:15 +1200

Sometimes, like Keith Moon, they have to take loads of drink and drugs just to come down to our puny human level. And surely the greatest rock athlete of all time must be former Motorhead drummer Phil "Philthy Animal" Taylor.

I heart this drummer post. Keith and Philthy would be…

Craig Ranapia

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:37:31 +1200

Cheese and crackers, what is it about men of a certain age and enhancing their televisual experience? (Dave went out on Sunday to get a bottle of milk and the papers, and came back with an early birthday present – a new TV. With a built in digital tuner, so…

Geoff Lealand

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:35:29 +1200

I recall reading an article in the Guardian Weekly some time back, about the failure to to capture Karadzic (especially by NATO) and the networks that had concealed him and the suggestions made about deals being struck to allow him to escape. Hadn't ever seen those shots of UN peacekeepers…

Steve Barnes

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:31:05 +1200

I knew a lesbian couple who went to Lesbos for a holiday. One of them came back pregnant.

Girlz can do anything. Apparently.

Steve Barnes

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:22:14 +1200

Will we be Drinking Liberally tonight?

B Jones

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:21:13 +1200

All this Greek islandry has reminded me of my favourite blend of classics, pop culture and comic opera, The Heroine Barbarian:

I travel with a poet who is perky and parthenian
And scribbles her hexameters in Linear Mycenian
(And many have attempted, by a host of methods mystical,
To tell…

Russell Brown

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:18:48 +1200

I knew a lesbian couple who went to Lesbos for a holiday. One of them came back pregnant. True story.

Michael

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:11:32 +1200

Thanks for the link to Karadžić's site. I'm very happy to have him caught – I stayed in Sarajevo about a month ago and after hearing and seeing some of what what done, and the lingering effects all these years later then I'm keen for as close as we can…

Emma Hart

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:09:07 +1200

The Lesbos thing begs the question: what do they call women of the Sapphic persuasion on said island?

Tourist attractions.

Lucy Stewart

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:05:20 +1200

Happy birthday!

The Lesbos thing begs the question: what do they call women of the Sapphic persuasion on said island?

Peter Martin

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:37 +1200

One totally geeky point.

Be as geeky as it takes,Russell. Our sky hd is to be installed in a couple of weeks and it can only be of assistance if you adivise us of ,and smooth, the process.

Great timing for the installation too! Enjoy the new toy...

Russell Brown

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:10 +1200

Bur damm you for getting le tour in HD, I am soo soo SOOO jealous
and you get it just in time for the final stage of the alps
did you notice how it was also broadcast in windscreen last night
so prtutty

I did notice, and I thought that…

Tim Michie

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:55:23 +1200

Happy Birthday Russell!

Lesbians of Lesbos – You're still OED definition 1 ... is it the tourism that's getting you down..?

Emma Hart

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:54:45 +1200

I'm expecting the Tour de France to look very sexy indeed

Is there something you want to tell us about cycle shorts? We'll be very understanding and almost not prurient at all.

Sue

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:49:07 +1200

happy birthday!
Bur damm you for getting le tour in HD, I am soo soo SOOO jealous
and you get it just in time for the final stage of the alps

did you notice how it was also broadcast in windscreen last night
so prtutty

Russell Brown

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:42:51 +1200

Let us know how the HD is... :)

One totally geeky point. They said at the launch the broadcasts would be 1080i, but the HDMI connection is showing up as 720p. I guess I should make a phone call before poking around in settings ...

FletcherB

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:31:31 +1200

Happy birthday to you....

I feel the inexplicable need to exclaim that I am not from Lesbos, but I do like women...

Also, I dont know exactly what a loinge is, but maybe what you do in it or to it, should not be shared with the public?

David Cormack

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:31:07 +1200

Happy Birthday us!

I hope yours is better than mine. My Zune died last night (6 months old!) and I've already had the limp rendition of Happy Birthday sung to be at my obligatory office morning tea.

Graeme Edgeler

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:28:06 +1200

Did I mention it's my birthday?

No. But Facebook did.

Joe Boden

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:26:10 +1200

Happy Birthday Russell. Let us know how the HD is... :)

Luke Williamson

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:24:05 +1200

HB Russell.
Wrt the health quackery, I've never been a believer in any of those cures or methods but I think it is best exemplified by that fact that no "health" medicines are supplied with child-proof lids. That's because they know that anyone can gobble as many as they like…

davidamstalden

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:20:49 +1200

Happy Birthday, sir.

I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to another year of insightful and searing posts about a bunch of interesting stuff, so let me just take this moment to say...thank you.

Grant McDougall

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:20:03 +1200

Many happy returns, Russell. Feel free to celebrate with a truly splendid air-drum solo.

Steve Barnes

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:18:01 +1200

On the drummer thing.
many years back, 69 or 70 if my memory serves me well, I was at a party in Blackheath, saarf east London. A certain Ginger Baker performed a little party trick. Sitting backwards on a chair at the top of quite a long flight of stairs…

Stephen Judd

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:11:58 +1200

Oh, and the "hiding in plain sight" thing is bullshit. If Serbia weren't desperate to get into the EU he would be happily peddling quackery still. Lots of people knew where he was but there was no will to hand him over. (see 1, 2. "Hiding" is face-saving spin for…

Steve Barnes

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:10:36 +1200

Well, Happy Birthay Mr. Brown. May tommorrows hangover be mild and somewhat pleasant. ;-)

Stephen Judd

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:01:39 +1200

Metafilter, which I frequent, has a Bosniak member who posted a couple of harrowing accounts of being in Sarajevo here and here.

...in reality, I didn't win, Karadžić did. Around the time my parents were killed, he said of Sarajevo that soon one wouldn't count those killed, one would count…

Danyl Mclauchlan

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:56:25 +1200

If you are my friend, stand up before me
and scatter the grace that's in your eyes.

Sappho

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Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:56:25 +1200

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