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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						You had it right the first time, Sam
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>Actually having had the time to think about this properly, what I should have said is: </p><p>Given the stuff that a 14-year-old can just walk into a theatre and watch these days, how can McCroskie expect us to move towards his family-friendly utopia if we can't actually monitor kids' reactions?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:49:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						Heh heh. "ackward" and "jouralism". What a numbscull.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:12:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						McCroskie is a numbskull. That is all.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:52:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p>Complete change of subject, but while I'm here, here is the latest case of class jouralism, <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4781424a11.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Children paid to watch TV violence</a> shock.</p><p>Okay, as  a story in itself, it might be fine, and it would make sense on page 5 or somesuch, as a straight bit of reportage.</p><p>But…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:47:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						I didn't find that at all. I didn't feel that the movie seemed anywhere near finished that early. I <strong>do</strong> think it dragged on too long, and the 10 or 15 minutes after the Jokers last appearence, with Gordon's family and Batman's final confrontation with Two-Face, was ackward (and had…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:31:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the "hostages on the boats" thing was the whole point &ndash; that was the real conflict of the film, and it's where the Joker lost. Getting beaten up by Batman was pratically incidental.</p></blockquote><p>That being the case, it shouldn't have felt like a post-script to the actual film. When…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:13:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						Because films are being discussed here could I mention Roger Ebert's <a href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/12/win_ben_steins_mind.html#more" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'evolution'</a> into a major social critic in his journal entries. He is now using film as a starter to range across a broad swathe of interesting social issues. His comments section is nearly as interesting as PAS.
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						See, I was very pleasantly surprised by <em>The Dark Knight</em> (possibly because I hated <em>Batman Begins</em>, but still). It was the first time in any incarnation that I've found the character of the Joker at all threatening &ndash; usually you have Batman, with his brilliant mind, unbeatable martial arts abilities…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:58:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Any any technique is "appropriate" if there's a purpose to it, and I'm not sure Foster had one. Apart from "action verite" being hip &mdash; and if you've got to try and be cool, you're not.</p></blockquote><p>I agree. I felt Greengrass had a vision for his Bourne entries, that made…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:53:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hamming it up as a sadistic psycho is the kind of flashy crap that gets people's attention</p></blockquote><p>Couldn't have put it better myself. He was good. But Oscar good? Nah.</p><p>The 'shooting style' thing is an odd one. Few directors seem to have the confidence to step beyond the style…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Thrill! as he explains why Heath Ledger wasn't all that great, actually, and probably shouldn't be awarded an Oscar!</p></blockquote><p>He should have won an Oscar &mdash; in 2005 for <em>Brokeback Mountain</em>, which in my view was a rather mediocre film (and I'm saying this as a huge Ang Lee fan)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:10:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p>Yep, I'm right. From IMDb trivia:</p><p>"First James Bond movie to take its title from an original Ian Fleming short story since The Living Daylights (1987), a gap of twenty-one years. It is also the first time since this movie that James Bond has visited the opera."</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:39:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						I think that is an honest Flemming title. I heard it was based on one of his short stories (though changed beyond recognition).
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:37:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						Speaking of Bond, I still can't get over the name of the latest incarnation. I mean, <em>Quantum of Solace</em>?  Really? It sounds like a Norwegian post-rock band.
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I seem to be the only person on earth who found The Dark Knight ludicrously over-rated and at least 45 minutes too long.</p></blockquote><p>I thought it slightly overrated and about 10 minutes too long.</p><p>I didn’t have a problem with the action scenes in either of Nolan’s Batman efforts, except…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:28:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I seem to be <em>the only person on earth</em> who found The Dark Knight ludicrously over-rated and at least 45 minutes too long</p></blockquote><p>Craig Ranapia is.....<em>The Omega Man</em>!</p><p>The sole survivor of an overblown marketing disaster that has left humanity as brainwashed zombies who think The Dark Knight was a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:26:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're right about Bond &mdash; it's a confidence trick played on the movie-going public every two years. Those are very ordinary action movies at best.</p></blockquote><p>True. A largely overrated franchise that dates badly. Having said that, Casino Royale was better than average. It had some really good action scenes and…</p>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>But what about the christian zombies?? No-one ever considers them...</p><p>All hail Peter Jackson</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkHkdu5IEI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkHkdu5IEI</a><br />I kick ass for the Lord </p><p>followed by <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T8PWUgrVeA&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T8PWUgrVeA&amp;feature=related</a><br />Zombie sex</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:56:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						<p>Incidentally, that argument amongst American critics was kicked off by the great critic David Bordwell in this piece, which is well worth a read if you've ever wondered why action films seem more confusing now than ever before:</p><p><a href="http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?p=1175" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?p=1175</a></p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and I seem to be the only person on earth who found The Dark Knight ludicrously over-rated and at least 45 minutes too long.</p></blockquote><p>One of my favourite lines from a movie review comes from James Berardinelli's <a href="http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=76" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">take on Goldeneye.</a></p><blockquote><p>Also, there's more action in Goldeneye than in previous 007…</p></blockquote>
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						I think you're right about both Forster and Nolan &mdash; they simply aren't action directors. There was a big argument amongst critics in the US last year around The Bourne Ultimatum, shot on handheld and edited to hell. It gives you an adrenalin rush or a jolt but you simply…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're right about Bond &mdash; it's a confidence trick played on the movie-going public every two years. Those are very ordinary action movies at best.</p></blockquote><p>My point was that if I want a migraine I'll ring my mother &mdash; it's cheaper and takes less time.  Marc Forster is a genuinely…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or maybe it's just that the dynamic of modern zombie films pushes characters into isolation, rather than population-rich cities, for survival reasons?</p></blockquote><p>As a big fan of George Romero movies (I haven't seen I am Legend) that's just simple Zombie er... physics.</p><p>Lots of people means lots of future zombies.…</p>
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						Craig, marketing may or may not have pushed I Am Legend over the line but it did nothing for The Golden Compass. According to Variety, the total brand-backed spend &mdash; ie with all the burger tie-ins and so on &mdash; was around US$120m on top of a US$150m budget. New…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p>Don't forget the Hare Krishna Zombie:<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Dead-Krishna-Zombie-7-Inch/dp/B000UU8JEO" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Dead-Krishna-Zombie-7-Inch/dp/B000UU8JEO</a></p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But what about the christian zombies?? No-one ever considers them...</p></blockquote><p>Precisely. After everyone else knocks each other off Zombie Jesus and his meek flock shall inherit the earth.</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						But what about the christian zombies?? No-one <em>ever</em> considers them...
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The only way they can defend their true christian lifestyle is to barricade themselves inside a huge concrete fortress and keep the outside world on the outside by use of superior firepower.</p></blockquote><p>And from where, in time, the American civilisation will regrow from its (supposed) true source just as it…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would I Am Legend have done US$77m in its first weekend if it starred Joe the Plumber</p></blockquote><p>The more germane question is whether it would have done that kind of business without a big ticket marketing that goes on.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a trailer for…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Would I Am Legend have done US$77m in its first weekend if it starred Joe the Plumber?</p><p>It might have been more popular with Republicans.</p></blockquote><p>In my opinion, there's a rather nasty sub-text to 'I Am Legend' anyway.</p><p><strong>New York</strong> (i.e. the liberal east coast): A violent, dangerous place full…</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Of course they're not sold as big names, they're sold as Great Thespians who can Really Act. Meaning, you take a perfectly good script, insert an overrated A-lister to ham it up and chew the scenery, and 99 percent of the target market never knows the difference.
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would I Am Legend have done US$77m in its first weekend if it starred Joe the Plumber</p></blockquote><p>It might have been more popular with Republicans.</p><blockquote><p>Generally Steve you're right. But that Kidman film Australia is a different kind of movie and pitched at a different audience &mdash; older, women generally,…</p></blockquote>
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						Which is why Tom Hanks and Will Smith probably have the most dependable starpower right now. Tom Cruise, not so much. A lot hangs on Valkyrie. Cruise as a good Nazi in an eyepatch?
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder the same thing as Mark. Hasn't the success of films like 300, Transformers, LOTR et al shown that you don't need big name stars to deliver at the box office?</p></blockquote><p>'No-one knows anything' is your watchword for any of this stuff. And if you happen to be a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And to bring it all back to Coddington &mdash; it would be nice if she'd tried to assess some of the films named in that NZFC report as art rather than judge them as commerce.</p></blockquote><p>Hear hear. I'm happy with NZ movies making money and being a commercial success. I'm…</p>
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						<p>If you look at the opening weekends, here:</p><p><a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/</a></p><p>then it's dominated by fantasy/comic-book adaptations aimed at teens, and not that star-dependent. Heath Ledger's profile might have made a small difference to The Dark Knight's BO (as Variety would put it) and Johnny Depp's to the Pirates movies, and Harrison…</p>
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						I wonder the same thing as Mark. Hasn't the success of films like 300, Transformers, LOTR et al shown that you don't need big name stars to deliver at the box office?
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						<blockquote><p>...she's just insanely overpriced for what she can deliver, and most of the time she doesn't deliver.</p></blockquote><p>Aren't they all?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm no great fan of Nicole Kidman, but I find it interesting that when a film she's in tanks she's "box office poison".</p></blockquote><p>I woudn't actually go as far as to say she's box office poison &ndash; she's just insanely overpriced for what she can deliver, and most of the…</p>
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						<p>Rich:</p><p>I'm no great fan of Nicole Kidman, but I find it interesting that when a film she's in tanks she's "box office poison".  Her ex-husband, on the other hand, hasn't headlined a a break-even film this millennium that wasn't directed by Steven Spielberg, and he's running a studio.  (Whose…</p>
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						<blockquote>Rich, of course film-making is a gamble. Many thought Lord of the Rings was a colossal gamble, which is why so many studios turned it down. Some thought Titanic would be the biggest bomb in history. The question of whether public money should be subsidising the arts is one I…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote>Funny that you should mention We're Here to Help. Given that it was a bigger bomb than The Ferryman, once international sales are taken into account, I wonder why Coddington didn''t get stuck into it? Perhaps because it has Rodney Hide in a heroic role (as played by Michael Hurst).</blockquote>…
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						Funny that you should mention We're Here to Help. Given that it was a bigger bomb than The Ferryman, once international sales are taken into account, I wonder why Coddington didn''t get stuck into it? Perhaps because it has Rodney Hide in a heroic role (as played by Michael Hurst).…
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						<blockquote><p>The Others, The Hours, Birth, Dogville, even Cold Mountain</p></blockquote><p>I'll give you The Hours and The Others. The rest should have died in development. Cold Mountain also has the distinction of having not one, but two 'red light' actors in lead roles (actors whose names automatically kill the film -…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The last Nicole Kidman movie worth seeing?</p></blockquote><p>Margot at the Wedding (2007) &mdash; she and Jennifer Jason Leigh play excruciatingly dysfunctional sisters.</p>
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						The last Nicole Kidman movie worth seeing? She did a bunch of quite interesting films earlier this decade: The Others, The Hours, Birth, Dogville, even Cold Mountain. She hasn't had a hit in years but she's still probably one of the only actresses with the name recognition to attach to…
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						<blockquote><p>And yet ... Margaret Pope, who wrote the speech (but not, obviously, its brilliant extemporising), was there on the night it was delivered, and subsequently lived with David Lange till he died, was totally okay with it, and thought that Lange would have been too.</p></blockquote><p>I'm tempted to say it's…</p>
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						<blockquote>There's a famous line often attributed to screenwriter William Goldman: "Nobody knows anything." It means that no one can predict what will be a hit and what won't. You can spend US$130m on a film called Australia starring Nicole Kidman and find it only takes US$10m in its first weekend.…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Finlayson would actually do arts funding bodies (a favour) if he demanded they undergo a plain English audit, and didn't <strong>treat public scrutiny or criticism as some kind of Philistine mugging</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Craig &ndash; whether or not it was your intention, you've summed up something of Ruth Harley's approach as Film…</p>
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						<blockquote>Thank you, Philip. Someone needs to defend the Film Commission from know-nothings such as Coddington. It was interesting, for example, that John Barnett and John Maynard might have different takes on funding regimes but both believe in the cultural brief of NZFC. They had a very amicable debate about this…</blockquote>
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						<p>Russell said:</p><blockquote><p>And yet ... Margaret Pope, who wrote the speech (but not, obviously, its brilliant extemporising), was there on the night it was delivered, and subsequently lived with David Lange till he died, was totally okay with it, and thought that Lange would have been too.</p><p>So it's not…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Further to the discussion before about the commercial validity of NZ horror films, the NZFC annual report has 168,000 tickets sold in the UK for Black Sheep and 150,000 DVDs. It took $500,000 at the box office in Australia.</p><p>Also, 178,000 DVDs were sold of The Tattooist in the US.…</p>
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						(And you know something's very wrong with the world when Coddington's making valid points.)
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						It's not the Film commission that needs defending, it's those who it's supposed to serve, the public and the filmmakers. Autocratic management, weak ministerial oversight, and a disinterested political opposition have simply provided Coddington with an opportunity to score points, some of which, given her cheap-shot scattergun approach, just happen…
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						<p>@Dyan:</p><blockquote><p>What Shaun said.</p><p>It is revoltingly tacky to use what is probably the finest speech made by a New Zealander &ndash; one that resonated around the world, making NZ and its inhabitants seem brilliant and rather heroic by association &ndash; to promote something that is the ugliest and most…</p></blockquote>
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						Thank you, Philip. Someone needs to defend the Film Commission from know-nothings such as Coddington.  It was interesting, for example, that John Barnett and John Maynard might have different takes on funding regimes but both believe in the cultural brief of NZFC.  They had a very amicable debate about this…
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						<blockquote><p>Sione's, No 2 and Second-Hand did better here but did no business overseas</p></blockquote><p>That was in the back of my mind &ndash; the horror productions looking for overseas success a la PJ &ndash; is it possible the Ferryman could go this way?</p>
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						Not really true, Andrew. The thing is that NZ horror films have had an international festival and video audience, largely thanks to Peter Jackson's rep &mdash; which is why The Irrefutable Truth About Demons was released on video in the US, only titled The Truth About Demons &mdash; and why…
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						Have to agree, Coddington's swipe at Juliette Veber's film was ignorant and underhand. If anything, <em>Trouble is My Business</em> is the sort of film that the Commission should be more involved with making. I have no idea what struggles Veber had to go through to get her film made, but…
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						<blockquote>The Ferryman probably looked like a sure thing &mdash; another NZ horror, a LOTR star &mdash; whereas Second Hand Wedding looked like a risk, with a first-time director, relatively unknown writers, a pretty ordinary script and only one name actor (Brophy). It was lucky to get some good media behind…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Think the use of the Lange speech by a brewery is pretty tacky, both in terms of the constant (mis)appropriation of culture for commercial ends, but also using an acknowledged alcoholic to sell beer.</p></blockquote><p>What Shaun said.</p><p>It is revoltingly tacky to use what is probably the finest speech made…</p>
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						<p>That Deborah Coddington column is a real concern. One example: </p><p>"Everywhere you look, a disgrace can be found. A little-known documentary, Trouble is my Business, was funded by the commission and made by a staff member."</p><p>That little-known documentary screened in Film Festivals in Auckland, Wellington, Chch, Hamilton and Dunedin…</p>
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						Think the use of the Lange speech by a brewery is pretty tacky, both in terms of the constant (mis)appropriation of culture for commercial ends, but also using an acknowledged alcoholic to sell beer.
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						<blockquote><p>It would have to be Proust of course.</p></blockquote><p><sings>Proust, in his first book, in his first book...</sings></p>
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						<p>Hey, so is Mary Wilson going to interview Noelle?</p><p>lol</p>
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						Giovanni: I meant it in a purely innocent and statistical sense :D
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						<blockquote><p>I have a greater than average number of legs</p></blockquote><p>And by the same token, most of us reading have a greater than average number of eyes ...</p><blockquote><p>I bet you're a very popular fella.</p></blockquote><p>... and the readership as a whole has a greater average number of male sexual organs…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>We could do a controlled experiment, get twelve PAS readers and ask them to summarise the contents in 300 words or less</p></blockquote><p>It would have to be Proust of course.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"According to statistics, in 1998 there were 318,000 women in the UK who said they were engaged to be married and 218,000 men who said they were engaged to be married" (anon)</p></blockquote><p>Now see, that's just polygamy hopefuls waiting for a law change.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Geoff: I have a greater than average number of legs.</p></blockquote><p>Wow. If it means in these here parts the same thing it means back home, I bet you're a very popular fella.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Geoff: I have a greater than average number of legs.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:19:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, mixed feelings on the OU speech being used to flog beer (disclaimer: I work for a competing ad agency). I feel that that speech is a part of my growing up in NZ and that it's been cheapened by using it in this way.</p></blockquote><p>Meh... I don't crack the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:18:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Tell you what, though; considering how pained Craig is whenever Trotter makes an analogy to murder, he's going to go nuts when he sees this. ;)</p></blockquote><p>Too bloody right &mdash; but I've got to agree with Steve Parks that it's a reasonable argument spoiled by rhetorical over-kill.  Trotter comparing critics…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:04:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>AndrewD</title>
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						At least they didn't engineer David to say "I can smell the beer on your breath"
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:02:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>My favourite quote  about statistics (well, I have several);</p><p>"86% of all statistics are made up on the spot" (Vic Reeves)</p><p>"If one foot is in a bucket of ice water and the other is in a bucket of boiling water, on average, you can be quite comfortable" (anon)</p><p>"According…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Reading a bit further on it was 1 in 20, 30-49yr old men who came from a group of 200 gay men who go to sexual health clinics, FFS.</p></blockquote><p>If you ever run into someone quoting the stat that 20% of internet pornography is child pornography? That comes from a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:36:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>I'm pretty sure the Press will want to stop their paper version and stay with an online version that they can continually edit.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4777829a24035.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4777829a24035.html</a></p><p>Online "Study finds gay men most at risk of HIV" <br />In print page A4 "Study finds gay men most at risk of HIV with one in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:49:17 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I haven't read either article apart from what was excerpted here... so you've got more to go on than me.... (and I have no attachment to either the Listener or Ms Boniface to defend)...</p><p>I'm just saying that if you did that experiment.....  4 of the 12 might choose to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:10:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Another less sinister, and yet also likely one, is that both journalists were paraphrasing and condensing the same source material.</p></blockquote><p>When I was in high school our Latin teacher use to hammer us with homework, four translations per week and they were no picnic. So my best buddy and I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:46:37 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Re: The Listener and Guardian articles that appear very similar...</p><p>While obviously, near-direct copying is a likely explanation....</p><p>Another less sinister, and yet also likely one, is that both journalists were paraphrasing and condensing the same source material.</p><p>It's a story about a medical expert and their discoveries....  they have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:23:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>And speaking of cultural appropriation, here's hoping <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4777686a1860.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the return of the Goodnight Kiwi</a> is handled well:</p><blockquote><p>TVNZ marketing head Jason Paris said the move to bring back the pair was prompted by discussion about an appropriate Christmas message.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:41:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4777677a1860.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"No on-air apology for McCarthy's essays"</a></p><blockquote><p>[Networks Manager, John] Howson said he was absolutely certain McCarthy's errors were "not intentional at all".</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:24:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						But does it have the cute background sideshow monkey counterpoint? :)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:56:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No mixed feelings here &ndash; travesty. Shit product, wasted cultural reference.</p></blockquote><p>On the bright side, at least it doesn't fold, spindle and mutilate the language as much as the Harvey Keitel one. "When they said that Everest couldn't be conquered, you said no!"</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:40 +1300</pubDate>
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						No mixed feelings here &ndash; travesty. Shit product, wasted cultural reference. Be surprised if it drives young uns to track down the rest of the speech.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:59:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Vaughn Davis</title>
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						Ah, mixed feelings on the OU speech being used to flog beer (disclaimer: I work for a competing ad agency). I feel that that speech is a part of my growing up in NZ and that it's been cheapened by using it in this way. OTOH, I'm sure it's now…
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						<p>Don't get me wrong; I'm no defender of the Film Commision. I'm just not cool with "leading" newspapers calling for political murders.</p><p>Tell you what, though; considering how pained Craig is whenever Trotter makes an <em>analogy</em> to murder, he's going to go nuts when he sees this.   ;)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:04:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The annoying thing is, the rest of Coddington's column is fair argument. That's not to say that I necessarily agree . . .</p></blockquote><p>It's a bit depressing that until her departure from parliament in 2005 Coddington was about the only opposition politician taking any kind of interest in the off-the-rails…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:33:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The annoying thing is, the rest of Coddington's column is fair argument.</p></blockquote><p>As a New Zealander this sort of rampant parochial xenophobia makes me rather squirm with embarrassment though:</p><blockquote><p>another $20,000 as initial funding for a documentary on that "well-known New Zealander" Robert Fisk. Eh? A British foreign correspondent -…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:16:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						They probably wouldn't be so cocky if they were suddenly faced with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners%27_strike_(1984%E2%80%931985)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">miners' strike</a> with cardigans.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:06:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						The annoying thing is, the rest of Coddington's column is fair argument. That's not to say that I necessarily agree, but it's totally legit for a commentator to make that kind of case (and understandable from a libertarian). So why finish with such a cheap, dumb comment? Did she think…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:18:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Because if this kind of diabetic coma-inducing cack is seeing print on the watch of sober people, we should all be afraid. Very afraid.</p></blockquote><p>Par for the course with that rag. <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&amp;objectid=10545693&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Elsewhere today in the Herald</a>:</p><blockquote><p>On second thoughts, taking a stick to the [Film] commission is too good. [National's arts…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:34:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the topic of journalism, a small interjection &ndash; I think the author of this Herald article wins some kind of award for Most Inappropriate Metaphor. Just, what.</p></blockquote><p>Lucy:  The <em>oeuvre</em> of Ms. Carolyne Meng-Yee is a pretty strong argument for compulsory random workplace drug and alcohol testing.  Because if…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:03:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But he lost his job as assistant police commissioner</p></blockquote><p>Lost?  No, he resigned to avoid a Police disciplinary hearing the next day.  I recall that really pissing off Louise Nicholas at the time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:05:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"John Haigh has been a rock to me, to us, a great mentor and a fantastic role model. He is part of the reason why I wanted to do law... you know, that man epitomises integrity and honesty."</p></blockquote><p>No comment.<br />Just- no comment.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:57:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						On the topic of journalism, a small interjection &ndash; I think the author of <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10545739" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this Herald article</a> wins some kind of award for Most Inappropriate Metaphor. Just, what.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						teaching young kids about plagiarism in these internet times is actually really easy &ndash; I think my kids got it at 8 or 9 &ndash; it's an obvious thing to do if no one tells you it's bad &ndash; there's all this great text around on the 'net, why not…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:54:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>is Noelle McCarthy's passing off sections of the work of others as her own inherently different from that for which Alexis Stuart lost her job?</p></blockquote><p>I can't abide the NatRad afternoon show, so I'm not sure to what extent they're expected to be original, but my general impression is that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:17:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>headless chickens suck balls</blockquote>With what, given that they have no heads?
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>headless chickens suck balls...</p><p>...end of story</p><p>goodnight:)</p></blockquote><p>Sooo, is that good or bad?:)</p>
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				<title>dubmugga</title>
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						<p>headless chickens suck balls...</p><p>...end of story</p><p>goodnight:)</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						OK, I must confess I didn't directly hear what she said, but I gather that she uttered words to the effect that something had been discovered and isn't it interesting? rather than explicitly attributing to herself investigative work and insight, so "passing off" (when the journalists she was relying on…
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						That's it, I guess &ndash; we have to deal with degrees rather than essentialist judgments.  Quothe Paracelsus, "The portion maketh the poison" &ndash; mayhaps.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						So, is Noelle McCarthy's passing off sections of the work of others as her own inherently different from that for which Alexis Stuart lost her job?
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Generation Y is taking the principle that information wants to be free to heart</p></blockquote><p>And perhaps a subconscious realisation of that is driving (curmudgeonly) media interest in this instance of plagiarism that I'm reading is at the "lower end" of some scale.</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It would have taken 30 seconds to rehash those sentences</p></blockquote><p>Well, a bit longer.   It's actually hard work paraphrasing without seeming to be merely reshuffling words and when you're just giving throwaway titbits on air, it's easy to slip into repetition.  Storm in a bloody teacup, really, except to  the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:56:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Chapman</title>
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						Whether Noelle's plagiarism was at the lower end of the scale or not I think is irrelevant &ndash; above nothing else is it not about having professional pride in her own work? It would have taken 30 seconds to rehash those sentences.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:39:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						Funnily enough, I think that "a discussion on octopuses and the Rubik’s cube" is far more interesting and newsworthy because of what it implied about cognition anf the fourth or fifth dethronement (1, Copernicus saying that we're not at the centre of the universe; 2, Darwin saying that we're not…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:36:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Whether they really wanted to kill themselves, or to do themselves any real harm, is another matter</p></blockquote><p>"Silliest bottom burp? Rik."</p></blockquote><p><em>Young Ones</em> fans will get it...</p><p>Seriously, I'm not being insensitive, really.  I've had students who've tried to top themselves (and I've heard of some who've done more than…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:25:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The sound you just heard? That was me dropping my gloves.</p></blockquote><p>Man. Those are really nasty gloves dude. No palm at all.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:56:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bruce Wurr</title>
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						<p>Hi Russell,</p><p>Just wondering if you would be able to tell us how the Chickens gig was either by review or a link to a review......am really annoyed I won't be able to see them due to being a hell of a long way away.....the children's hour gig in 2005…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:51:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>poisoning yourself with paracetamol has to be a fairly dumb way to self-harm &ndash; leading to a prolonged painful death from liver failure</blockquote>I used to know a medical student who worked in an A&E  unit; she said they were constantly pumping out teenage girls who had taken lots of paracetamol…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:44:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Carelessly?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:42:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In a threatening manner, old chap?</p></blockquote><p>Is there any other manner?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:35:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>dropping my gloves</p></blockquote><p>In a threatening manner, old chap?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:31:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Okay: Anaheim fan, disrespecting my oral hygiene... I now officially hate you.</em></p><p>Said like a man whose team is running 24th out of 30.</p></blockquote><p>The sound you just heard? That was me dropping my gloves.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:30:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Okay: Anaheim fan, disrespecting my oral hygiene... I now officially hate you.</p></blockquote><p>Said like a man whose team is running 24th out of 30.</p><blockquote><p>Russell can correct me, but isn't the usual process on student radio stations, who can't afford a news gathering team or even Reuters/NZPA, to source stories…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:13:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They are also describing a possible link between paracetamol use in children and later asthma.</p></blockquote><p>And yet most doctors pretty near force the stuff on you no matter what you take your kid in for.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:54:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I wonder how much of the stealing other people's work stuff is generational?  To me, the "apology" seemed like <em>sorry I got caught</em>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:24:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>if you get my drift</p></blockquote><p>I think I'm overdue for some flu..  :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:22:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I avoid Tylenol/paracetamol/acetaminophen largely because of the liver toxicity &ndash; what's especially bad as others have pointed out is mixing it with alcohol which can max out your liver (without going over the recommended dose) and cause real harm.</p><p>What's really sad are those who try to suicide by over…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:03:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						Oh damn! And there I was talking about proper attribution and everything. How embarrassing. And weirdly appropriate.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:09:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyway, not to worry, if you get it wrong there's N-acetylcysteine (NAC) &ndash; the antidote (they could make paracetamol with NAC included, without affecting the analgesic effect, but it would be much more expensive). And if you don't get NAC in time there's always a liver transplant...</p></blockquote><p>Great, you've put…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:04:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The McCarthy piece on dementia is out-and-out plagiarism, surely.</p></blockquote><p>It wasn't Noelle McCarthy, it was Linley Boniface. And can I just say that I'm not alleging anything? I have enough trouble coming up with dentist money, I would like not to be sued. But I'm with you on the whole…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:03:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>McCarthy piece on dementia is out-and-out plagiarism</p></blockquote><p>Nope. That was <a href="http://listener.co.nz/issue/3563/columnists/11713/recalling_the_past.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Listener</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:01:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Reid</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Okay, now I'm scared out of taking Panadol. So, the guy who's going through a multi-session root canal should take what? morphine? I knew the day would come when I would rely on PAS for pharmaceutical advice...</p></blockquote><p>The toxic range for paracetamol is close to the therapeutic range at approximately…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:00:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						The McCarthy piece on dementia is out-and-out plagiarism, surely. Or at least it would be in academia. But I guess in journalism there's always been that culture of 'reusing' content from other sources (often without attribution), cannibalizing wire articles, manufacturing quotes, and so on. The question for me, though, is…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:50:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I recall a friend doing a pharma course being alarmed by the this-is-your-liver, this-is-your-liver-if-you-take-paracetemol-to-deal-with-your-alcohol-poisoning-induced-hangover pictures.</p></blockquote><p>You only have to take a couple years of physiology to become horrified at the prospect of destroying any essential pathway in your body... and acetominophen (Panadol, Excedrin) or booze are both very easy ways…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:48:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Russell can correct me, but isn't the usual process on student radio stations, who can't afford a news gathering team or even Reuters/NZPA, to source stories from other media and put them in the journalists own words.</p><p>I'm thinking that's all Noelle was doing, just in a less relaxed environment.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:34:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>if you get my drift (wink wink!!!)</p></blockquote><p>I'm a notorious not getter of drifts, but I might possibly make an exception.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:19:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Greater care of his teeth?</p></blockquote><p>Okay: Anaheim fan,  disrespecting my oral hygiene... I now officially hate you. </p><p>(Plus, to quote the Simpsons: no matter how you brush your teeth, you're doing it wrong.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:17:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Good post about the Noelle business on Peter Hoar's new blog</p></blockquote><p>Worth reading through to the end for the fish story (properly attributed I note).</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, the guy who's going through a multi-session root canal should take what?</p></blockquote><p>Greater care of his teeth?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:55:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						<p>In case you're not sure what Giovanni and Russell are talking about, this is from the Guardian one on August 2 this year:</p><p>One day, they were sitting together in a doctor's waiting room when out of the blue Dorothy [Johnson] said, "Has our flight been called yet?" Garner was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:55:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Okay, now I'm scared out of taking Panadol. So, the guy who's going through a multi-session root canal should take what? morphine? I knew the day would come when I would rely on PAS for pharmaceutical advice...</p></blockquote><p>It's a shame that the painkillers that really work for the big jobs…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:54:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ngaruna Kapinga</title>
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						Naturally produced endorphins are a sure fire (albeit temporary) cure for the flu, manflu & anything in bewteen &ndash; if you get my drift (wink wink!!!)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:52:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Then again I'm not a journalist and I don't know the subtleties of proper attribution.</p></blockquote><p>I just had a look. Hmmm. I don't think I'd be comfortable with that.</p><p>But it can be difficult when you have a column-writing job that basically involves you synthesising interesting news and knowledge in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:49:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						The toxic dose for paracetamol is mostly not one tablet over, but it depends on your body weight and the state of your liver (and probably some other parameters). Taking extra for a hangover not a good plan as your liver is already worked up. It's also worse if you've…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:46:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						I recall a friend doing a pharma course being alarmed by the this-is-your-liver, this-is-your-liver-if-you-take-paracetemol-to-deal-with-your-alcohol-poisoning-induced-hangover pictures.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Okay, now I'm scared out of taking Panadol. So, the guy who's going through a multi-session root canal should take what? morphine? I knew the day would come when I would rely on PAS for pharmaceutical advice...
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The five dollars took a little bit of finding. I had been looking for the words as starting letters or code rather than a link in you'll.</p></blockquote><p>I'm kicking myself... I <em>so</em> should have hidden underneath a w.</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The notion of a panadol overdose i thought was just silly, but taken in large quantities it can certainly have that effect.</p></blockquote><p>Not even that large &ndash; I've been strongly warned against taking even one extra tablet by an acquaintance in A&amp;E, who should know. The clinically effective dose for paracetamol…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The handful of items she got caught on were certainly improperly attributed &mdash; she used whole sentences and turns of phrase from UK newspaper stories. That's at least sloppy.</p></blockquote><p>Funny. I've been wondering about that since reading a health story in the Listener back in August which seemed heavily indebted…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Good post about the Noelle business on <a href="http://nzradio.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/fishy-business/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Peter Hoar's new blog</a></p><p>Noelle's off air till Boxing Day, but back for Summer Noelle.</p><p>It probably wouldn't even have been that if John Howson hadn't blurted to the media before considering her case.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>On Radio NZ (buggar their marketing), whos boyfriend did Noelle steal to get knocked off the air? Some Jurno student who still has their uni login to use turnitin ?</p></blockquote><p>She had to apologise but she's still on air.</p><p>The handful of items she got caught on were certainly improperly…</p>
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				<title>Ngaruna Kapinga</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Quite. It's amazing how many people actually are killed by ingesting paracetamol every year.</p></blockquote><p>It damages the liver &amp; kidneys. The notion of a panadol overdose i thought was just silly, but taken in large quantities it can certainly have that effect.</p>
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						<p>On Radio NZ (buggar their marketing), whos boyfriend did Noelle steal to get knocked off the air? Some Jurno student who still has their uni login to use turnitin ?</p><p>I don't think she passed any of the work off as her own, just starters for the afternoon chat, most…</p>
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						Omg &ndash; it's a 'mandemic' of manflu &ndash; you boys really need to harden up lol!
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>turnups</p></blockquote><p>I read turnips. It was a very strange moment.</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>I was quite impressed that you were not only banging on about Internet but banging on about Community. And look, here we are. In the intervening period, the giveaway CD has become standard for music magazines, as has web content, of course.</p><p>For reasons of copyright, as well as those…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't think you read that right ...</p></blockquote><p>Weeeell . . . "changes in visual perception" doesn't quite strike me as full-on living-colour 3d with surround sound hallucinations. For that you'd need something with suspected side effects such as minor brain damage &ndash; and, probably, zero antitussinal properties. Whether a…</p>
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						<p>Hi Russell, </p><p>Thanks for noticing Access All Areas: Headless Chickens Re-animated (more of Trevor Reekie's good work) and Bowie's Waiata as broadcast during Music 101 recently.</p><p>Just to let people know, the full version of Bowie's Waiata plays again tonight (Fri 28 Nov) at 7.30pm on Radio New Zealand National…</p>
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						Yes, took some doing. I suspect you beat me to it by a minute or so, Heather.
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				<title>Heather W.</title>
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						<p>Cunning G. Tiso</p><p>The five dollars took a little bit of finding.  I had been looking for the words as starting letters or code rather than a link in you'll.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Do not use any syrup containing paracetamol &ndash; could be fatal.</p></blockquote><p>Quite. It's amazing how many people actually <em>are</em> killed by ingesting paracetamol every year.</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Surely morphine has even more severe withdrawal symptoms?</p></blockquote><p>After extended use yes. If you're just on it for a couple of days then not so much.</p>
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				<title>Crunchy Weta</title>
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						<p>Do not use any syrup containing paracetamol &ndash; could be fatal. Be prepared for serious diaorrhea.<br />Line in the sand: I think the concept is great nut would have preferred one long continuous shot similar to Coldplay's "Yellow".<br />Be well.</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>pseudoephidrine is a much better decongestant than phenylephrine</blockquote>Oh yes.
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						<blockquote><p>DXM is the drug of choice in the US southern hip-hop scene.</p></blockquote><p>Tussin'!</p>
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						<p>I've been looking for an excuse to pass on a remedy for getting rid of that awful Telecom advt. that accompanies this blog and its threads. I guess a discussion on hallucinations might be the trigger!</p><p>If you are fortunate enough to be using the Firefox browser, go to the…</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>and the second is, well, an advertisement</em></p><p>Yeah &ndash; but...!</p></blockquote><p>Yes, I know.</p>
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				<title>Jan Farr</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and the second is, well, an advertisement</p></blockquote><p>Yeah &ndash; but...!</p>
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						<blockquote>According to that link it sounds pretty resistable. You'd have to sink at least 250ml of vile-flavoured concoction just to reach the "fourth plateau", and still only experience stage one hallucinations, i.e. distortions of mundane reality. To make it worthwhile you'd expect to be able to see things that aren't…</blockquote>
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						Surely morphine has even more severe withdrawal symptoms?
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						A couple of days on morphine and no coffee also seems to work. (Whether the pain of the surgery might overwhelm the withdrawal pain not controlled for)
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						<p>Congestion was improved by the Coldral, but the most marked improvement was the pounding headache and low energy levels were all but stopped, and the night formula has the antihistamines that relieve irritation and make you drowsy.</p><p>Caffeine has not helped at all, and curiously, I also haven't felt like…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the good shit</p></blockquote><p>It's a much over-looked point in the debate, but pseudoephidrine is a much better decongestant than phenylephrine. If you're pharmacist won't give you pseudo, there are a surprising number of other options, including most aphetamines and cocaine. Ritalin, LSD and psilocybin may also have some effect. Amusingly,…</p>
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						<p>One cup of narsty-arse liquid wouldn't slow Russell down one little bit, the man drinks whiskey! He'd probably like it.</p><p>I've been trying various medz too this week, having a horrible cold. Of the legalz, Coldral day/night has been most effective for symptom relief. I did have to say to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>. . . resist the temptation to make non-medical use of my cough syrup . . .</p></blockquote><p>According to that link it sounds pretty resistable. You'd have to sink at least 250ml of vile-flavoured concoction just to reach the "fourth plateau", and still only experience stage one hallucinations, i.e. distortions…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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