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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Havana good time...?</strong><br />Surely Cuba street isn't <strong>gauche</strong> enough to be the "Left Bank"? or even <strong>sinister</strong> enough...<br />...though there is a lot of culture deposited on both sides of that river of humanity, this silting has created the overflow and braiding into the surrounding catchment &ndash; and at that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:31:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>AFAIK, there's been no use of the word "quadrant" in any official Wellington tourism marketing, so it might just be Russell's coinage.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>It was, entirely. It just seemed the appropriate word for the small area we traversed.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I guess that's allowable.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:42:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But it's just a shorthand to help you know that if you're after vintage clothes, don't go to Lambton Quay; and if you're after nightclubs, don't go to Thorndon.</p></blockquote><p>I knew a professional would say it better.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:37:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Kowhai<br />Another thing I like about WoW is that it makes you (well me anyway) want to drag out that old sewing machine and all those bags of unused material and other bits and pieces in the garage, and 'create' something. That's how a lot of entries happen apparently.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:48:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>AFAIK, there's been no use of the word "quadrant" in any official Wellington tourism marketing, so it might just be Russell's coinage.</p></blockquote><p>It was, entirely. It just seemed the appropriate word for the small area we traversed.</p><p>Sorry if I've caused any trouble with my loose Auckland ways.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:41:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kmont</title>
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						<p>Hilary Stace</p><blockquote><p>intricacy of the pleating and how it moved</p></blockquote><p>Yeah it was amazing if you got a chance to look at the detailing.</p><blockquote><p>That's why the wooden dress won because it looked great close up and also from a distance.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, a simple and kind of banal thing really…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:39:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My main beef with 'Quarter' is not that it's unoriginal or pretentious, but that (in Wellington's case) rather than being preexisting common usage of the inhabitants, it was entirely a product of marketing types wanting something to write on silly signs</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure there's much in the way of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:29:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"The bits around Cuba Street"</p></blockquote><p>Agreed &ndash; that's probably what most young people will call it no matter what official label it is given.  </p><p>Precincts are an urban design/planning tool more than anything, aren't they, so that over time different parts of the city develop concentrations of different character and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:26:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It is called Second Skin.</p></blockquote><p>That was my favourite this year too. But I think because I was quite close this time and could see the intricacy of the pleating and how it moved. The people around me clapped when the model came by, which is always a good sign.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p>@Tom:<br />My main beef with 'Quarter' is not that it's unoriginal or pretentious, but that (in Wellington's case) rather than being preexisting common usage of the inhabitants, it was entirely a product of marketing types wanting something to write on silly signs (literary types &ndash; help me out here, surely…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:00:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"the heart of the Cuba quadrant"</p><p>Oh puh-lease... when I last lived in WN the council were trying to pretend it was Paris (Left Bank anyone?) with their "Lambton Quarter" "Cuba Quarter" signs etc... and now they want us to believe it's Westminster?</p></blockquote><p>AFAIK, there's been no use of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:10:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Wow! kowhai montgomery, thank you! That is an excellent & wonderously evocative work &ndash; must look more closely into the WOWA competition results...
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						BenWilson &ndash; re last comment: heh!
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						In Warcraft you can be both a woman and a dolphin at the same time (druid class). You have to play Max Paine if you want to be a cannonball, and I'm yet to hear of any game where you can play a skunk, but then again, a lot of…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:45:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>kmont</title>
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						I appreciate the WoW entries that are less costume-like and more haute couture art that can be *moved* in.  The garments need to work with the performative nature of the show; grab attention in what can be a very busy show visually, and have a strong conceptual element that translates…
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Heh! Give your big bro' A+ (yep, know the French) for total originality...</p><p>any female human who knows anything about some dolphin behaviour (Tursiops truncatus I am so looking at you), or the parasite load most species carry, would emphatically reject being a dolphin...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:42:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>most men would give being a women a go but most women would prefer being a dolphin.</p></blockquote><p>My parents were fond of telling us we could be  <em>anything</em>  when we grew up, so when they asked my brother Rick what he wanted to be, he replied "oh, a skunk or…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I remember reading about some gender research that showed most men would give being a women a go but most women would prefer being a dolphin.  Long ago, no refs.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:03:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, a surprisingly large number of women play WoW.</p></blockquote><p>I was making a joke, btw, not attempting a threadjack. I'll just be amused by anyone out there attempting to Google the Wearable Art and ending up wading through Warcraft forums about designer armor and mounts.</p><p>Re genderbending in WoW, I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:58:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						Lagarus Ovatus En Masse is totally going steady with Frank from <em>Donnie Darko</em>. I also really need to get my act together and write about WOWA from a <a href="http://prettyprettypretty.com " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pretty Pretty Pretty</a> perspective...
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				<title>Jonathan Maze</title>
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						<p>"I thought about the extent to which WOW is for, by and about women. More than two thirds of the 33-strong production team, including the event's founders and creative leaders, are women."</p><p>Having spent a bit of time there Fashion Week in Auckland is the same, it's run by and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:07:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Yeah, Left Bank of what? Even with rain like today and the Bucket Fountain going full bore, Cuba St is hardly the Seine.</p><p>I think it all comes down to Kerry really wanting to be Mayor of Paris, but failing on account of neither being French, or any bloody good.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:01:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It would have been hard to choose a more unfortunate acronym for something that is "for, by and about women" than WOW, since that is already pwned by World of Warcraft.</p></blockquote><p>I'm more concerned that wearableart is supposed to be one word. Bring on WOWA</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>pwned by World of Warcraft</p></blockquote><p>Only among geeks, I'd venture.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, a surprisingly large number of women play WoW.</p><p>Or at least by men who like to play as female characters.</p></blockquote><p>For further enlightenment...</p><p><a href="http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/001369.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nick Yee: WoW Gender-Bending</a><br /><a href="http://www.wow.com/2006/07/31/boys-that-play-girls-that-play-games/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wow.com: Boys that Play Girls that Play Games</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:04:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>After the third time all the entrees start to look the same though.</p></blockquote><p>It's surprising how much similarity there is. And the organisers are quite ruthless with grouping all the like stuff together. __You've made a Marie Antoinette dress? Yeah, well, so have all these other people, so yours had…</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<blockquote><p>After the third time all the entrees start to look the same though.</p></blockquote><p>That's why you skip a year or two :-)</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I still haven't gotten over WoW moving away from Nelson. In large part because (due to my parents being there) it was feasible to go at least every 2-3 years.</p></blockquote><p>After the third time all the entrees start to look the same though. </p><p>"Haven't we seen that crawling crab couch…</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						I still haven't gotten over WoW moving away from Nelson. In large part because (due to my parents being there) it was feasible to go at least every 2-3 years.
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, a surprisingly large number of women play WoW.</p></blockquote><p>Or at least by men who like to play as female characters.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>already pwned by World of Warcraft</p></blockquote><p>Well the wearable art did come first. </p><p>However, a surprisingly large number of women play WoW.</p>
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						It would have been hard to choose a more unfortunate acronym for something that is "for, by and about women" than WOW, since that is already pwned by World of Warcraft.
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						<blockquote><p>the heart of the Cuba quadrant</p></blockquote><p>Oh <em>puh-lease</em>... when I last lived in WN the council were trying to pretend it was Paris (Left Bank anyone?) with their "Lambton Quarter" "Cuba Quarter" signs etc... and now they want us to believe it's Westminster?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:36:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kirsten Brethouwer</title>
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						I was there roaming Wellington with a group of ten Waiheke women. I did think we were youngish in comparison to most other obvious groups. After thursday opening night WOW we had great fun at the MIghTy Mighty two nights in a row. Shame the City Art Gallery didn't open…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:29:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						Does that mean Cuba Street is the new Upper Hutt shops?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:23:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Riddiford Street is the new Cuba Street.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:13:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						It's great that things which were once ghettoised as 'craft' are now 'art', and can be lavish and crazy and weird if the artists feel the urge. (And also that more traditional 'craft' is so much more valued than it was previously. I note that I'm typing this next to…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:08:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						Quilter's are open on Saturday now? Score!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:03:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Quilter's is where I get my rugby programmes and stuff. I was annoyed by the move to Cuba because I can't browse in my lunch hour
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:28:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:28:18 +1300</pubDate>
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