Yeah right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdqbi66oNuI

But these people are not interested in governing, they are only interested in being the government, i.e. winning. Winning is everything, winning everything is the…

Or possibly even full-on Stan Graham.

http://thestandard.org.nz/imperator-fish-the-labour-party-plot-to-kill-cameron-slater-the-shocking-evidence/

The bill passed its first reading by 107 votes…

Key's problem is that real communication can only happen between…

more fine work by Murray Grindlay, Alan Gallbraith and others…

But brown is a very suitable pants colour.

He may not have been wearing his Mr PM hat. Yesterday Winston was calling him out and calling it bovine faeces

Nah more like
Have you taken out the rubbish dear?
Don't be silly ,that's what the Diplomatic protection service are for.

Love it. "Fundamentally" as the new tool of evasion. Something's not true unless it's fundamentally true, rather than superficially technically true. I think that if that's not very probably bullshit, then it's very actually bullshit.

That's what Steven Joyce just told us, speaking for the PM, in Parliament.

It’s definitely Forman, without the E. As for the man himself, he’s the real…

Indeed. It's a trail so obvious, you could put a tail on it and call it an elephant.

Mr Key confirmed this morning that he had given Slater his new cellphone number after he changed it during the election campaign.

However he said he was "fundamentally not" in contact with Slater.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11365421

It's actually all hilarious. Gwyn and Ketteridge…

"And I'd have lured/scared them all to the right if it wasn't for you meddling kids"

"Have you taken out the rubbish, dear?"
"Yes of course I have, honey."
"So why is it still here, by the door?"
"I have taken out the rubbish in the past. Your question did…

Nah, too cross.

This seems to be a confession that sometimes he "couldn't recall" genuinely?

People are talking about Andrew Little because he's said and done a lot in the past few days, being leader of the opposition.

People aren't talking about David Cunliffe because he isn't in the news, and hasn't been since he stepped down…

Well, if it's Foreman, then he could be the son of Bill and Diane Foreman, the ice-cream Queen, a name with a quite unfortunate connection back to the National Party.

ETA: What I mean is, they do have a son called…

That will depend entirely on how successful he is between now and then. At this point, I wouldn't want to pick it. But I can pick this: I personally like what…

There have been a revolving door of Jesus’s over the last two years – each one of them crucified by the party that lost touch with the electorate.

Labour…

In the quoted email which apparently was sent directly to Cam Slater from Josh…

It's the new "a spade is a bloody shovel".

If you’re Kim Dotcom Fairfax will relegate you to, um, Digital Living, in the Technology section.

Succeed in politics and you have many enthusiastic fathers crowding about. Fail and you are that sad, forgotten orphan sitting on the step outside in the rain.

Besides, the failure of Cunliffe was an error in judgment, not in intent. We still…

This Alf chap has kindly copied and pasted what appears to be an entire blog post from…

It could be that that is actually his opinion (hard to fathom though it may seem to any who actually are left wing). But Slater touted the guy for a while didn't he?

Christmas, and the summer memory hole. That's what Key is playing for, anyway. It usually works.

Longer-term, I doubt that he will be looking for a fourth term – which is not to say that National won't win one.

Stan Graham developed a increasingly paranoid persecution complex that his neighbours…

I particularly liked his line, "cut the crap" – given I'd said it so many times over and over to myself when Key opens his mouth :-).

Agreed! During the Labour leadership campaign I posted that they needed someone intelligent and articulate with a sense of humour. Somebody who…

Some of the wording is of real concern....and it makes me wonder just how well equipped our cloak and dagger brigade are to excercise their new powers...should they need to.…

Oh great, zombie vampire Slater will be shuffling though our lives for generations to come, can Labour get nothing right? time to retrive that wooden stake from Muldoon and…

homeopathic, innit

Oh for goodness sake. I tell you what, let’s make Jesus leader of the Labour party because it seems that is what it will take to please some people.

Little’s performance in the house yesterday…

Even though Key came across in the…

Could be below the earth, just sayin'.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11364995

Good question.

Nah, we've only just reached the point of finding the cake saying "Eat Me". There's long chapters ahead before we get to the Queen of Hearts.

Well, I can think of Rasputin, and maybe the seer who warned Caesar about the Ides of March,…

I did mean "for fucks sake"..but was trying to be polite.

@ Russell... The slightly left of centre blogger promoted by Tau Henare on Natrad the other afternoon?

Methinks we are all being worked.

Just when you thought te shit couldn't get any weirder.

Say 2 + 2 = eggplant, not 4. Then wait for the interviewers to propose the mathematical qualities…

The conversation itself is quite strange.

Have we reached #peakcray? Who knows?

Which, BTW, puts the use of “unsolicited” when describing the txts yesterday in an uncertain light!

The rest of us accept that our electronic correspondence can be read by others....

Some of these people are running the…

Prime Minister: It's a joke isn't it. They will attack Jason for talking to u and they break the confidentiality agreement. Classic lab.

Cameron Slater: Yup...I'm very angry over it...Goff is the one who leaked oravida stuff too.

Cameron…

Come on Corin, Paddy and co, there's your story. Attempted murder by NZ opposition. Get the details and tell us all. Don't forget to cc the police.

Alternatively, maybe you could finally work out that…

And yes, Goff happily spread the word far and wide it woud appear, while the triumvirate of Colins, Key and Slater at least had the 'intelligence'…

Goff DID leak the report early

Which has to rate as one of the stupidist actions I have ever seen from a politician – truly Brendon Horan level stupidity. FFS this is my damn electorate MP WTF was he thinking???

It's only a scratch.

Key is asked a straight and short question in Parliament. Answers in precisely one word: "No".

It is then revealed that this answer was false, and since it consisted of only one word, even Key couldn't parse and pretend.…

I'd prefer to…

Yes, I'd be amazed if there is any blood test that could truly detect virginity, although there certainly are plenty that can detect a lack of it.

Don't they all. Unlike Farrar, though, I doubt if he really believes any of that stuff.

So...he drinks the blood of the deflowered AND holds it down???

Yup. But it's just a flesh wound to Key.

Q: What do the geezers in the Office of the Prime Mister do when…

"Can the Prime Minister confirm that he, in fact, exists?"

"I can't confirm that, Mr Speaker, but what I can confirm is Labour big fat smelly poo!"

Whatta guy.

An outstandingly successful tactic is to accuse the person you've victimised of the very action you took against them. We're seeing it now with Goff being accused of leaking the report early.

Which is why I wanted his opinion. I think a response from him would be of value. It quite obvious what many of us think. Maybe he'd not appreciate me singling him out but he tends to respond in good…

no but if we have to build a new transpacific cable simply because every fibre being used on the current one needs a companion fibre owned by the NSA/GCSB passing its contents back to big…

Did you ever see Andy Warhol's Dracula, where the title character suffers terrible consequences if he drinks the blood of a non-virgin? When he happens to bite a victim who's been freshly deflowered by Joe Dalessandro he…

I was quite sad after 6 months when I had to give up Ifnh8PWC ....…

Got it in one Tom. That is the main issue. Jason Ede and Cameron Slater did exactly…

Ask the Americans or China – pretty sure they kept a copy.

fixed

I doubt if payments are the problem. Ironically it is more likely a "Privacy" consideration.

maybe I need another cell provider
That's why I am with Kraps (name encrypted for security) you know,…

Thus is the world of the big consultancies ...

what about a 'boater'
he is always taking the 'pith'
and saying he 'mitre' done this or that
(but can't remember)
I'm guessing a Biretta or Yarmulke are out…

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Joker%27s+hat&client=firefox-a&hs=YxO&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=fflb&biw=1093&bih=506&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=7et0VNvXLsbemAW-6oGoAg&ved=0CCYQ7Ak

A Monopoly Character...

I was a bit surprised to see that the official inquiry outsourced the IT stuff to KPMG. Who did, so far as I can tell, absolutely nothing. The work that went into getting the…

Nice phrase! Can it be portmanteaued? Ambivalues? Government by ambivaluation.

Is the day looming when the SIS is privatised in the interests of efficiency and independence?

Neo liberalism at its most devilish extreme.

and just a reminder to those who don't subscribe to the hard copy of ABC's excellent magazine Peace Researcher that it is available on line

:- )
Ibn ibid

The Herald's editorial this morning:

Mr Tucker erred, badly. But it was the stimulation by the Prime Minister's staff of the official information request that prompted the…

To use another football analogy, the ref has called a foul and now the Oily One wants to shift the goalposts.

“Every politicians who expresses outrage over playing politics is a sanctimonious hypocrite.

This whole thing is just politics…its a game, some of us play hard, some like a bunch of pansies. Get used to it, it isn’t going to change any time soon.”…

Thanks for clarifying that

I think this is (a) dodgy as hell in terms of evading retrospective accountability (i.e…

Classic obfuscation from a true master of the art.

Interestingly, Nicky Hagar says it "appears" to be a breach;

http://dirtypoliticsnz.com/

Certainly this question/aspect of Gwyn's findings needs to be tested – I'm assuming that would have to be via an official police complaint. To me, it might be a good petition for…

I think this is (a) dodgy as hell in terms of evading retrospective accountability (i.e I don't think you…

We missed the first ten minutes of question time....took that long to figure out how to work the telly. (I kid ye not....its been a while)

I concede though to have been somewhat entertained. Impressed by the righteous indignation from the right and the equally outraged comments from the…

Officials in Ministerial offices are employed by Ministerial Services. They're employed by Parliamentary Services for non-Ministerial governmental MPs and opposition MPs.

tits on a bull.

"Six banks have been collectively fined £2.6bn by UK and US regulators over their traders' attempted manipulation of foreign exchange rates.

HSBC, Royal Bank of Scotland, Swiss bank UBS and US banks JP Morgan Chase, Citibank and Bank of…

And once again Andrea Vance sums up Key's reaction perfectly.
Still, Key continues to insist his staff acted professionally at all times.…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/63523163/Dirty-Politics-Keeping-Keys-hands-clean

Hey. Easy on, Fair's fair. Where's the evidence he's a thief?

As is the Blonde short haired pr prat that stands behind him like the nodding dog on the dashboard. When protests in Rotorua interfered with the carefully orchestrated carefully chosen mall, the microphone caught…

http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ckpt/ckpt-20141125-1708-direct_link_between_pms_office_and_blogger-00.ogg

more denial, with a chorus of "I was out of the country...".

PS. Key was on the brink of being ejected from the House, English nearly broke his larynx and Norman softened 'em up for Little's rather impressive rant.…

Missed it – will be interesting to see what we get on 6 o'clock news..

Or with a political culture that makes doing illegal things something that people are prepared to do their utmost to excuse when…

I'd assume the bit about not chucking out any document (physical or not) that might even vaguely be related to public interest and public roles, for a ridiculously long time. Can't quote you a paragraph, am going from own workplace training, not…

I was surprised to see this from him…

Edit- I see I was beaten to it... same as above.

Faintly damning, hardly no-holds-barred smackdown.

Which part, btw? It's quite a long Act.

Pray tell, what would our esteemed journos be waiting for then? Ooops there you go, OIA requests. Proven to be fat chance there then unless of course Key wants you to have it. They got it sewn up. As…

I suspect the agitator is still turning. Remember, Rawshark said he had turned the dump over to journalists...

a) Because he would not have been able to delete the emails from the system and b) that would have constituted "misuse of a computer system" if it could have been shown that the actions…

I don't think Ede has at all. He was aways employed, as I understand it, by Parliamentary Services, in the Office of the Leader of the National Party. His emails are no more subject to the OIA or similar laws than Matt McCarten's.…

There are influences within public office that have agendas at odds with what we know as democracy.

You know it's true, even when the proof is vanished.

''All people make sense all the time''

Think about that, if it's not…

Oh, yes.

It's ALL about control.

As to the first matter, the Inquiries Act does not refer to the standard of proof that should be applied by an inquiry. In Re Erebus Royal Commission; Air New Zealand Ltd v Mahon the Privy Council observed…

It's quite a bizarre document.

That's a very good description. I just kept thinking to myself "this is weird" as…

It's quite a peculiar document. It looks long and complete, but reads like a stream of consciousness by someone trying to tell a very long and boring story to avoid answering a few simple questions.

The new documents appear to show PR consultant Graham paid Slater and Odgers to write dozens of posts attacking regulators and a possible witness.

In one email, Odgers said: "Remind him [Hotchin]…

We need a properly-separated prosecution service not run by timid muppets.

Speaking soon after the report's release this morning, Mr Key said the Inspector General's report had cleared his office of any wrongdoing and no apology was necessary.

"The report makes it absolutely crystal clear that my office did nothing that was either…

My reading of the reporting on this is that there were conversations from other people which implied Jason Ede had been sending emails that didn't show up in the official record, which is why…

Slater has denied quite a lot of things, denials that later turned out to be straight lies.

My first thought on reading that was "don't most email conversations involve at least two participants?"

Has someone else been…

Shame the IPCA have no teeth with which to bite the police for that decision. With the police regularly ignoring IPCA report conclusions, it's become abundantly clear that the IPCA is useful only…

All good then? Sweet...

Basically, yeah: "“[Collins’] understanding was that Mr Slater had manufactured a story and he wanted to believe it.”

It also confirms that Carrick Graham "engaged" Slater and Odgers as a paid service to Hotchin, and that that the police seem to have decided almost immediately…

Bets on Carter denying the request?

You're either an intelligence services employee who has just violated Top Secret classification of information, or a pundit who's making wild-ass guesses. No bets which one I consider to be the more likely.

Yet to come is Dame Beverley's investigation around public servants being instructed to break the law in respect of OIA responsibilities.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11327328

And there is likely to be a snap debate called for in Parliament today on Gwyn's findings.…