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Russell Brown

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:24:06 +1300

members of our team have previously posted to publicaddress, and have experienced being censored from the site, hence our comment on this post.

I have no idea what this is about. My guess is that it's someone who once sent me an email which, like most such emails, wasn't published…

reece palmer

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:14:57 +1300

If you have tickets to see england play in cricket world cup Ian, don't bother. A 20/20 between antigua and barbados would last longer and be far more entertaining. They were just plain woeful last night and in fact all summer. NZ are starting to come right, although Oram may…

reece palmer

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:10:45 +1300

umm shouldn't that be gnash?
yes granny has slipped somewhat, as have general literacy standards in NZ. Still I do what I can with the kids I teach.

Ian Hickling

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:48:11 +1300

it's seemed to me in recent years that the quality of the spelling and grammar in the NZH has deteriorated markedly. I always equate (probably wrongly) this with the paper becoming less believable. It was always Aunty, but it was our Aunty. Now it just seems like some kid down…

Warwick Eade

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:06:55 +1300

The press (and MSM in general) are having a huge identity crisis.

After years of regarding themselves as ‘the special ones’ they suddenly find that a swarm of amateurs can do large parts of their job at least as good, probably better.

When they try and write about what makes…

reece palmer

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:02:45 +1300

members of our team have previously posted to publicaddress, and have experienced being censored from the site, hence our comment on this post.

an excerpt from their reply, so who are they RB? enquiring minds want to know.

Che Tibby

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:56:04 +1300

i think irony may well be lost on "the calfskin glove"

Danyl Mclauchlan

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:53:44 +1300

But most bloggers – and we're talking 95 per cent – are fly by night, gutless wonders who prefer to spit venom under inarticulate pseudonyms …

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this editorial anonymous . . ?

Russell Brown

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:40:40 +1300

Why bother, when you can slap a spurious DMCA Takedown Notice on Google as the hosting ISP and demand near-instant compliance? Time to register 'CYFS' as a trademark?

Funny you should mention trademarks:

http://publicaddress.net/default,3887.sm

Che Tibby

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:06:50 +1300

span,

by blogs do you mean like this bastion of conservatism?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/index/0,29221,22123,00.html

yip. pretty extreme stuff those blogs.

Petra Jane

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:01:35 +1300

Google is not obliged to [remove blogs] under US law, and would be going down a pretty scary road if it banned every blog that was the subject of complaint.

Why bother, when you can slap a spurious DMCA Takedown Notice on Google as the hosting ISP and demand…

Span .

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:59:07 +1300

Well none of this bodes well for the idea of the Herald website including blogs and forums does it?

On the CYFSWatch issue, my main concern has been the rights that the CYF workers have – both to a certain amount of privacy and to complaints being addressed in a…

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:08:49 +1300

Excellent.

Russell Brown

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:04:19 +1300

One last thing whens the next great blend and can I pre register now?

We've been a bit delayed through one thing and another, but I'll hopefully announce the dates (Wellington Feb 8, Thursday week and Auckland Feb 11 at the new Auckland museum events centre – and yes that…

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:52:58 +1300

Like RB said, there are some horrific stories told there and some horrifically told stories too.

Che Tibby

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:47:34 +1300

actually, that's a very interesting blurt about the non-comments stuff.

i haven't seen the cyfswatch site, but that line is not all that common. in fact, it's usually only seen in the right-wing blogsphere of the sir humpties or whale oil variety.

i think our cyfswatchers may well actually be…

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:35:52 +1300

I know you don't want to have anything to do with them but they are lying about you RB.

Cyfswatch responds
"The Publicaddress website is a poor example of "intelligent debate" – the site does not allow people to post comments or provide feedback!"

So I got out my virtuapen…

jb

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:53:11 +1300

WiFi...

Pretty dire.

Ranges from $10 an hour with Telecom to $2 an hour at motels.
Or – if you're lucky and can get them – CafeNet charges $20 for 70MB.

Keep an eye out for open hotspots – Orcon has a couple in Nelson and Richmond

Russell Brown

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:08:14 +1300

I find it worthwhile in the following circumstance: whenever DPF and Russell agree on something, then it must be the absolute truth.

We have occasionally been known to agree on ordering another bottle of wine in the course of a lunch. So that must be the absolute truth too. I…

Michael Hogan

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:09:29 +1300

Journalists I read rarely label anything with "most". As parochial as the Herald is, it obviously is referring to NZ political blogs. That is a big filter, and a big mistake.

Worldwide, many bloggers are making a measurable difference in the style,quality and quantity of media we consume.

That has…

cerebus25

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:00:41 +1300

Hello, I missed that article in the Herald on Sunday yesterday. Can anyone please tell me the name of the particular reporter? No personal vendettas planned, I promise... ;-)

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:37:22 +1300

my airport card picks it up no probs

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:36:26 +1300

also free wireless hotspots at many caltex filling stations throughout country, free to xtra customers and I'm sure you'll come across one of those on your travels.

David Swift

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:14:30 +1300

nah......Telecom prepaid vouches in Starbucks etc....SORTED.

Thank you NAIS!

David Swift

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:59:52 +1300

re Wi-Fi....... thanks for the public appeal Russell, and the responses, people

I might just bring and Mac and try my luck ha ha ha!

PUBLIC LIBRARIES offer it in Scotland........should I try them too?

Tim Darlington

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:53:46 +1300

It certainly is funny to blurt some figure of 95% that you just made up and in the next paragraph complain that others "rarely research any offerings."

I think pseudonyms are eminently sensible for bloggers, especially ones like me that tend to run off at the mouth. When future potential…

Heather Gaye

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:44:47 +1300

Kiwiblog? worthwhile read? I'm not so sure.

I find it worthwhile in the following circumstance: whenever DPF and Russell agree on something, then it must be the absolute truth.

reece palmer

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:39:16 +1300

Yes well the Ho'S pinched about a third of their staff from the sunday news so the quality of 'journalism' shouldn't be a surprise.

Russell Brown

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:33:14 +1300

The question that must be answered is "who wrote this crap?" It doesn't even make sense: how can a pseudonym be inarticulate? What is a belief of self-freedom? I wouldn't read a blogger who wrote so badly.

I was trying to be all measured and reasonable and shit, to confound…

Paul Litterick

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:10:16 +1300

The question that must be answered is "who wrote this crap?" It doesn't even make sense: how can a pseudonym be inarticulate? What is a belief of self-freedom? I wouldn't read a blogger who wrote so badly.

Meanwhile, DPF links to the latest in the Herald's series of interviews with…

Robyn Gallagher

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:53:38 +1300

The HoS sez:

gutless wonders who prefer to spit venom under inarticulate pseudonyms

Using a pseudonym doesn't necessarily mean someone wants to be anonymous or has something to hide.

Just looking at the blogs I visit daily, many of them are authored by people using a nom de blog, but…

Nais

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:38:51 +1300

WIFI – well not promising anything but your mate could check out:

http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,204173-1066,00.html OR http://www.cafenet.co.nz/zones/

SI has always been hit and miss for me. Funniest site of the ski season – my sis desperately hanging out the upper storey window of our rented house in Wanaka with her new Telecom…

Tom Beard

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:38:02 +1300

I guess by "most bloggers" they mean "most political bloggers", which is a conflation that the print media seems to make quite a lot, since they don't think anything else is worth writing about. As you say, "most" bloggers write about their cats, or their holidays, or TV shows, or…

Rob Stowell

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:03:38 +1300

Poor old Herald? It's priceless:

"These bloggers, operating under their own misguided belief of self-freedom rarely research any offerings..."

While at the Herald, we offer- not spit- the well-researched and venomless opinion that:

"most bloggers – and we're talking 95 per cent – are fly by night, gutless wonders who…

Michael Healy

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:46:34 +1300

Kiwiblog? worthwhile read? I'm not so sure. I've actually made the rare gesture of removing kiwiblog from my RSS feed.

DPF is an interesting and informative writer when he wants to be, but the majority of what he does is akin to loudly reading newspaper articles out loud. He just…

dad4justice

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:12:24 +1300

I think the blog world is fantastic, as it allows you to voice an opinion on boards that promote opposite ends of the political spectrum. I can post a message on the right side of the fence, for example post a comment on the incredibly delicious and acid tongued Ann…

Lyndon Hood

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:45:17 +1300

... a Pajamas Media columnist ...

Sounds like a pants media columnist.

barnaclebarnes

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:40:50 +1300

I'm not sure that the Herald actually reads their own articles. A lot of them seem full of inaccuracies.

On the Wifi Note..NZ is pretty dire for free Wifi but grab KisMAC if they are on a Mac and just scan for networks as you drive around. You are bound…

Che Tibby

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:31:09 +1300

i believe the best description for our favourite anti-blogger hack is:

"hatchet in a calfskin glove"

Matt Perot

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:29:26 +1300

PS: A journalist friend is coming back from the UK for his first NZ holiday in years, and is wondering about Wi-Fi coverage during his trip, and particularly in Christchurch and elsewhere in the South Island. Any advice for him?

Turn back at the airport? (Or am I being too…

BenWilson

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:19:30 +1300

I think there are some blogs where 95% of the content is venom. But probably more like 1% of actual blogs. Most blogs are about the author of the blog, and comments are by their friends and family.

So slagging off bloggers is what you pay extra for in the…

Public Address

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:19:30 +1300

Discussion from blog post.