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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						My sympathies are with you, Matthew. There is a report on page 3 of tonight's Waikato Times. He was a former Hamilton lad and, I suspect, a friend of my son during their secondary school years.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:55:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4575902/Killed-rider-didn-t-feel-safe-in-Wellington" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4575902/Killed-rider-didn-t-feel-safe-in-Wellington</a></p><p>Be nice if Granny gave this some coverage, but I've not seen even a snippet so I'm not holding my breath.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:37:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>Thanks Sam. I'd not actually met him, which in some ways is worse.</p><p>My brother came across the crash as he was returning home after dropping another guest off, and they pronounced Ben at the roadside while he was still there. So it was fortunate in that the police had…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:28:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Matthew: that's awful news. My deepest sympathies.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:07:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>And <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4571671/Cyclist-dies-in-Wellington-crash" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the latest one</a> is my sister-in-law's brother. A cyclist so cautious that he changed his batteries before leaving their place to head for home, because the light was starting to dim. </p><p>Apparently he'd said previously that Wellington drivers don't give cyclists much room, something that Auckland drivers are finally…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:47:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>This throwable magnet design strikes me as a bad idea in practise</q></p><p>Also, much of my car body is plastic.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:45:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						I give about three days maximum before that makes it into the NZ Herald &ndash; possibly front page lead, or at very least jumping out of the zero-attention-span "goodie box" under the masthead.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:18:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>I imagine him swimming furiously along and pinning them to fleeing sharks. Although they’d probably leave him alone if he just quit skitching off them.</q></p><p>And sometimes the shark doesn't get away<br /><a href="http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/17081/48/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Drunk tourist goes swimming in deadly shark infested waters</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:22:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>Easy to picture a guy like that printing out death threats on sheets of fridge-magnet media</q></p><p>I imagine him swimming furiously along and pinning them to fleeing sharks. Although they'd probably leave him alone if he just quit skitching off them.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:56:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I hardly think public opinion concerning people on bikes is going to improve if they get into the habit of throwing things at cars, magnetic or not.</q><br />Once upon a time the <em>Herald</em> ran a piece on the problem people that lifeguards had to deal with on Auckland’s West Coast…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:30:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>I hardly think public opinion concerning people on bikes is going to improve if they get into the habit of throwing things at cars, magnetic or not.</p><p>It won't be immediately obvious to a driver who's just heard something go <em>thunk</em> onto their car that it's a non-damaging and innocuously…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:24:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						This <a href="http://petermiller.info/yellowcard.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">throwable magnet design</a> strikes me as a bad idea in practise, as any situation I would want to throw one I'm going to need both hands to steer and all my attention on the environment. Though in stop-start traffic I guess you might catch up with someone who nearly…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 12:49:33 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I read through as many of the comments on Hosking's article as I could stomach.  Was kind of surprised by how many supporters he got, but then we live in a car dominated region, so guess not too unexpected.</p><p>What Jolisa said, re a civilised society supporting cycling, or more…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:31:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stever@cs.waikato.ac.nz</title>
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						<p>If you have an iPhone (or something similar) get  <a href="http://endomondo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">endomondo</a> and compile your own routes, then publish them. </p><p>Works really well! It'll estimate your calories, height, distance travelled, average speed too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:28:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						You know, Ross, I reckon if we dynamically geo-tag a few cycle-commuters (and any kids who bike to school, if there still are any), we'd quickly discover some well-established "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_path" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">desire paths</a>" through the quieter streets. I know when I was a regular biker to school and varsity, I pretty quickly…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 05:14:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						Has anyone done any looky looky at streets around Auckland that might be able to give an "easy" route across, through and around the city? That is, some second tier streets that might mean a bit of diversion but eliminate the main routes? When they DO hit the main arterials…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:52:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, in the civilised world, <a href="http://yhoo.it/hwCEVq" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">dedicated bicycle highways</a>. Imagine!</p><blockquote><p>Roehl is not content with making life easier for Copenhagen's inner-city cyclists: he wants to get suburbanites out of their cars and onto two wheels as well.</p><p>His goal is to hike the percentage of suburban commuters cycling to and from…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:45:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On my bike I stay out of the way,</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. And for infallible investment advice, I recommend following the related advice: buy low, sell high.  You can't go wrong. </p><p>Anyone not following either bit of advice has only themselves to blame, frankly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:27:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>“On my bike I stay out of the way, and five years on I am still unscathed and at least part of that is because, on the road, I know my place.”</p></blockquote><p>Which is not a technique, because the great dilemma of cycling in Auckland seems to be working out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:57:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So exactly what is Mike Hosking’s near-infallible technique for avoiding getting killed on a bike?</p></blockquote><p><em>"On my bike I stay out of the way, and five years on I am still unscathed and at least part of that is because, on the road, I know my place."</em></p><p>As always, his…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:51:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						I registered my disappointment as mildly as possible in a letter &ndash; which hopefully won't be too mangled if it does make it into print.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:23:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						So exactly what is Mike Hosking's near-infallible technique for avoiding getting killed on a bike? Or is it a waste of time for him to educate us numbskulls on that score?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:14:35 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Let's put it bluntly: If you're so thick you can't look in your rear-vision mirror before you open your car door, education isn't going to help.</p><p>If you're that fat, bald man with the bad attitude behind the wheel who honks and flips the bird, education isn't going to help.…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:09:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Te Herald shows its balance and fairness by publishing its third <a href="">anti-cyclist rant</a> in a row &ndash; but it's OK, Mike Hosking is a cyclist as well as a V8 driver, so he's allowed to be smugly stupid.</p><blockquote><p>But the cycling fraternity have done themselves no good this week.</p><p>They…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:59:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Here’s a little bit of fun for all the cyclists:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rx9SIyFMfcY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/v/Rx9SIyFMfcY</a></p><p>who knew riding exercycles could be so tricky? :-)</p><p>[Hmm, link’s not embedding, I wonder why?]</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:06:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott A</title>
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						<p>Something occurred to me this morning that made me think that the real solution to New Zealand motorist's issues with cyclists is, simply, more cyclists.</p><p>I was driving down to the shops; from Kingston to Island Bay and back.  And, in those five minutes to-and-from I had what, I guess,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:52:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>A firm <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3681/features/16548/breaking_the_cycle.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Listener editorial</a> notes the contrast between New Zealand's aspirations for more cycling tourists and the rude reality of our oafish driving.</p><blockquote><p>Cyclists are pictured getting along cheerfully on pretty streets and scenic roads. In reality the environment for cyclists here is dangerous. Indeed, it can be downright intimidating,…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:00:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Party_USA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">And I'm only half-joking</a>. Any ideas on where to start?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:31:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						Heh. <blockquote>Coffee Party</blockquote>... nice.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:06:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						<p>Those Peter Brock ads had a HUGE effect on me, a long time ago, and have informed my driving style ever since. Pay attention, it could come from anywhere, you are not shit-hot behind the wheel, but it is fun if you're good...</p><p>I'd like to see a CRAPLOAD more…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:56:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>All the people moaning about pelotons and cyclists riding two abreast should consider it useful practice for rounding a corner and encountering a handful of kids happily riding home from school the way my siblings and I used to. A chance to practice navigating cautiously and expect the unexpected.</p></blockquote><p>^^^This.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:47:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>it’s like they couldn’t bear to be seen to yield space to a bike (speculation).</p></blockquote><p>More probably didn't/don't realise how unpleasant it is to be passed closely when you're on a bike, or didn't notice you. Or some combination thereof.</p><p>Most people are extremely unobservant. Also, if they're not regular…</p>
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						<p>I really liked your modest proposal, Amy ... and then I remembered that I live on a street where perhaps half of the houses don't have off-street parking (we don't) and thus no driveway. </p><p>This means there are always a lot of cars parked on the street, true.  But  there…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>All bike riders must pass a road-licence test – Do you know anyone adults that ride a bike that don’t drive?.</p></blockquote><p>* Puts hand up *</p><p>I know plenty of others too, and that's without being particularly involved with cycling lobby groups (I get the Spokes newsletter, never been to…</p>
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						<p>Parked cars seem to be a significant part of the menace equation here. Maybe … there just shouldn’t be any. No, really. No on-street parking at all. There’s no reason to take it as a basic assumption that the public roadway should include free vehicle storage. </p><p>Then nobody – not…</p>
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						<p>Some rightly furious responses to the Thompson piece at the Herald, notably this:</p><blockquote><p>Another genius article.</p><p>We sure know how to produce them.</p><p>Bikes must be fitted with rear-vision mirrors – This would actually be a good thing, cyclists probably wouldn’t like it but you’d feel a lot safer on…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Jolly Jolisa:</p><blockquote><p>At last I can post my ever-at-the-ready Copenhagen Cycle Chic link.</p></blockquote><p>Niiiiccce!. Love the granny bike and basket. They are chic over there with the kids!</p><p>But..but...but...did you see THAT!!!  The groomer cruising up the BIKE lane and keeping the BIKE lane clean. Does anyone remember the first…</p>
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						<p>The Harold edited my comment on that article! I've fixed it below:</p><p>What [<strong>the shit</strong>] is up with motoring writers proposing ingenious rules for cyclist when motorists are responsible for 9/10 cycling accidents?</p>
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						<p>Those opinion pieces are gross.</p><blockquote><p>It's a lovely day out there, by the way. Get on yer bike and get some fresh air.</p></blockquote><p>I did! Had half a day to kill in Auckland so I hired a bike from BikeCentral in Britomart and hit the road &ndash; along the waterfront to…</p>
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						Oh, only one was *identified* as a motoring journo &ndash; I guess I'm meant to know that Thompson is one too.
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						Sloan was anti-cyclist when he edited Craccum. I wrote a letter complaining about the worse-than-useless showers in the Quad locker room and got a very condescending response due to my status as a cyclist. He did at least have the grace to give me a bar tab at Shadz, but…
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						<blockquote><p>Only one was a motoring journo.</p></blockquote><p>Nope, one each from The Press and the Herald. The other was a former Craccum editor. None of them made a lot of sense.</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<p>That would be a charitable reading, Sacha. A less charitable assessment would be that they’re twatcocks.</p><p>ETA: Of course, it could be both.</p>
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						<p>Three nearly unreadable bile-coated hairballs, from three <em>motoring</em> 'journalists' (one on stuff, two in the herald).</p><p>Pretty much tells me everything I need to know about who has the bad attitude, and where that comes from.</p>
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						<p>Te Wellington Regional Cycleways blog <a href="http://wellingtoncycleways.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/this-man-is-an-utter-fool/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">is unimpressed</a> by Mr Thompson's pearls.</p><blockquote><p>I myself would have thought that slowing cars down, and getting rid of drunk drivers, and making it illegal to pass a cyclist within 1.5 metres would be a better way to go about it. Really registration? Where has…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>At last I can post my ever-at-the-ready Copenhagen Cycle Chic link.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, well yeah. That's the part of the world I'm from so I have come across that site before. What I find interesting about that site is that it's like a kind of anthropological study of, well, what's normal…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you're after a classic sit-up-and-beg, give Mamachari (<a href="http://mamachari.co.nz/)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://mamachari.co.nz/)</a> a go.</p></blockquote><p>To fix <a href="http://mamachari.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">that link</a>. Mamachari are good people (two friends of mine are part owners of the business, one works there).</p><p>Part of the reason for buying into the business is that it's about recycling (the bikes are imported…</p>
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						<blockquote>That's like me going head-to-head with a supertanker in a small sailboat in a crowded shipping lane expecting a ship the size of a small country to get out of my way. No matter what the rule of the sea says about power giving way to sail (yeah, yeah, I…</blockquote>
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						If you're after a classic sit-up-and-beg, give Mamachari (<a href="http://mamachari.co.nz/)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://mamachari.co.nz/)</a> a go.  I'm reliably informed they're good people. A little bit of classic Tokyo style in Island Bay.
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						<p>To the rhyme of pheasnt plucker:</p><p>I’m not a f<strong>king cyclist<br />I’m a cyclist with a son<br />And I’ll keep of f</strong>king cycling until the drivers understand.</p>
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						<p>Ooh Martin, you said the magic words, "another country."</p><p>At last I can post my ever-at-the-ready <a href="http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Copenhagen Cycle Chic</a> link. Phwoaaar. Imagine. Heaven will be a little bit like this, except that in heaven, all the bikes (and those outfits) will be free.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>If only</p></blockquote><p>I know, I know. But, assuming for a moment that these opinion-pieces are not just troll-bait; have these writers ever been to another country? </p><p>It's all so tedious.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Herald must think they have a lucrative angle now, so publish another opinion piece about how cyclists must change (out of concern for their safety) lest they inconvenience car drivers. Bless.</p></blockquote><p>Are you sure this isn't satire? I'm not.</p>
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						<p>Sounds familiar...</p><p>"A dark city street with men lurking around is no place for a young woman, no matter how much they bleat about having every right to be in the same place as a man. I’m unsure if it’s either arrogance or stupidity that lead various wimmin's organisations to…</p>
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						<p>Sheesh. It's like Mad Libs at the Herald.</p><p>For my part, I'm  unsure if it’s either arrogance or stupidity that lead various [defeatist wombles] to insist on saying [miserable told-you-so buggers] have equal right [to my headspace] with [those who are eternal optimists about human nature.]</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...useful practice for rounding a corner and encountering a handful of kids happily riding home from school the way my siblings and I used to.</p></blockquote><p>Kids are "strongly discouraged" from riding to our local school.  Instead we have a walking bus, which means five and six year old kids (who…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That’s like me going head-to-head with a supertanker in a small sailboat in a crowded shipping lane expecting a ship the size of a small country to get out of my way.</p></blockquote><p>Nice to see they've lost <em>all</em> sense of perspective there.</p>
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						<p>Herald must think they have a lucrative angle now, so publish another <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10689385" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">opinion piece</a> about how cyclists must change (out of concern for their safety) lest they inconvenience car drivers. Bless.</p><blockquote><p>A public road with cars thundering along is no place for a cyclist, no matter how much they bleat about…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>I think there's another side to the "motorists shouting stuff" coin that we should acknowledge: when cars full of teenage girls yell "nice arse!" at you as they pass.</p><p>Yes, this has happened to me. Twice.</p><p>It's a lovely day out there, by the way.  Get on yer bike and…</p>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						A friend of mine did a defensive driving course a while ago. A young man on the course was asked "What do you do if someone is trying to pass you?" To which he replied :"No-one f*@$king passes me".
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						Teenage drivers sometimes want to see if they can make you aware of their existence, but I seldom sense any active malice.  The only people I've ever felt actually endangered by were without exception middle-aged white men.  Typically they have some imaginary law in their heads that says I'm not…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:56:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Jolisa :</p><blockquote><p>Maybe we could revamp &amp; update some of the old defensive driving ads, to address our multi-user public roads ?</p></blockquote><p>There were a series of ads with the Magnet Man, Peter (Perfect) Brock years ago. He had teenagers going through scenarios of cars coming out of side roads, late…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:52:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Ross, I've seen helmet-mounted mirrors for sale at Capital Cycles in Wellington.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:10:00 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Also, Greg's mention of slowing down to pass a school bus brought me up short. Over here, it's compulsory to STOP when a school bus is stopped. They even have nifty hinged STOP signs that come out the side of the bus, and flashing red lights to remind you. </p><p>Traffic…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:07:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>And won't someone think of the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9373694" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">children</a>? UK poll of 9-13 year olds:</p><blockquote><p>More than 60% of nine to 13-year-olds think the roads around their home and school are dangerous for those on foot or bicycles. And almost nine in 10 of these children reckon drivers go too fast in…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:56:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Nearly every vehicle (notably always the big trucks and SUVs) pulled as far out of their lane as possible to give me room. I waved to every one of them in thanks.</p></blockquote><p>I actually find it a little disturbing how far Americans will pull out if you're walking on the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:22:55 +1300</pubDate>
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						Ross, I understand the raised median was designed to deal with the crowds accessing the Kelly Tarlton's venue on the other side of the road, including pedestrians from tourbuses and cars that will not fit into the adjacent off-street carpark. Hence my comment upthread.
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						<p>Interesting article. Thanks for pointing it out. A couple of bits caught my attention especially.</p><blockquote><p>Slowed motor traffic — “traffic calming” — is one of the department’s goals for new bike lanes, to the annoyance of many drivers.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>“I was shocked; I thought there had been a big accident,” Mr.…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:11:52 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>It’s four car parks, some distance from either beach, at a point where a median barrier had been added to try and curb accidents</p></blockquote><p>I missed this one Russell wot being down here like. </p><p>A median barrier?<br />In a 50km area?<br />Two lanes?</p><p>W  T  F   !</p><p>You guys have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:09:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Mirrors are wonderful. I have been trying to source the helmet mounted ones in NZ but with no luck. Any ideas people???</p><p>We used them on our trip across Canada (mounted on the handlebar) and they were worth the extra weight!!!</p><p>It takes away the wobble when turning the head.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:05:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>New York's <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/nyregion/23bicycle.html?_r=2&amp;hp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">bike lane backlash</a>, including photo &ndash; via Gemma Gracewood (keepin it in Greg's whanau).</p><blockquote><p>Police and transportation officials, meanwhile, have begun a crackdown on bicycle-related traffic violations amid complaints from some pedestrians.</p><p>Surging bike ridership has created a simmering cultural conflict between competing notions of urban transportation. Many New…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:17:21 +1300</pubDate>
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						Thanks everyone for your advice about mirrors. I'm pretty much getting one RIGHT NOW.
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						I have a mirror mounted on the right of my handlebar and I can't believe it took me so long. I believe it's making me much safer as I can see cars coming from behind before I even consider turning right. I highly recommend them. Mine cost about $30 from…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:26:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						<p>The swearing is still going on at the <a href="http://gregwood.posterous.com/im-not-a-fucking-cyclist-im-rubys-daddy-on-a" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">original post</a>.</p><p>My most recent comment is my best, I think:</p><p>"Bikes are vehicles ridden by people. Cars are vehicles driven by people. People need to pay attention to the fact that people in cars cause between 7* and 9* out of…</p>
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						I know a guy who does a lot of fairly long-distance road cycling. He recently got wing mirrors and said it made him realise that <em>most</em> drivers actually are considerate and patient. And now he can see them lining up behind him, waiting for a good place to pass. It…
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						<blockquote><p>In the past few days it has occurred to me that a rear vision mirror, affixed to either helmet or handlebars, would be more than ornamental on the bike. Has anyone got any tips on what works with these?</p></blockquote><p>I’ve seen a fair few people on bikes – mostly cycle…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:58:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It would be nice if more motorists treated the already compulsory rear-view and side mirrors as more than ornamental too, just to revisit an earlier point.</p></blockquote><p>Side mirrors <em>are</em> more than ornamental. They're there for clipping errant cyclists who're minding their own business, keeping left, and obeying the rules on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:38:23 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I've also started signaling whenever sensible, and thank-you waving and nodding. So either I look like someone on a bike riding well and making a connection with someone in a car, or I look like a smiling, waving, nodding, veering lunatic. Either way I'm getting space!</p></blockquote><p>I used to cycle…</p>
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						<p>Very graciously said, Greg.</p><p>In the past few days it has occurred to me that a rear vision mirror, affixed to either helmet or handlebars, would be more than ornamental on the bike. Has anyone got any tips on what works with these?</p>
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						I've noticed better overtaking and greater consideration from drivers after the Waitakere scenic drive had cycle awareness signs put up. Also as a rush hour cyclist pedaling through 15 km of West Auckland in the morning there seems to be greater courtesy and space given to me lately, especially after…
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						<p>Thank you all for the first reasonable discussion on this topic I've come across. I was beginning to think I was all alone out there.<br />I've been cycling for 45 years and have always loved it. I also drive a car, but I've yet to meet any of the "irresponsible,…</p>
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						Martin, it's exactly the smug Eastie nonsense I'd expect &ndash; cyclists are only OK if they're commuting, otherwise they should be in the gym (seriously).
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>numbered high-visibility cycling jerseys</p></blockquote><p>I bags #666!</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p>Some fresh insight from the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/transport/news/article.cfm?c_id=97&amp;objectid=10689374&amp;ref=rss" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Herald</a>.</p><p>I’m actually not sure if it’s satire or not.</p><p>ETA:<br />OK, it must be a joke:</p><blockquote><p>And maybe, just maybe, cyclists should be required to purchase numbered high-visibility cycling jerseys so that they can be identified for both their safety and a sense of…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>I’ve been riding around Auckland for five years now, most of that in the CBD or on main roads, and to be honest have had little grief from anyone – certainly not more than I would expect from driving around in a car in the same places.</p><p>I really feel…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Mind you, I'm the sort of person who indicates in supermarket car parks, so perhaps I have an overdeveloped sense of the importance of signalling.</p></blockquote><p>I don't understand people who don't signal at every opportunity. Who does it hurt, and it could help.</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I actually *stop* at every red light and stop sign (and put my foot down; I figured track-stands in lycra are somewhat antagonising)</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm... I find it disconcerting and worrying rather than antagonising.  the cyclist looks as if she might fall off at any moment, and she occasionally wobbles right…</p>
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						<p>Thank you Greg, seriously.</p><p>I've always suspected that the critical mass flash-mob approach, while valuable in its time for uniting cyclists and so forth, has a major flaw: it presents cyclists to motorists as an undifferentiated mass of inconvenience.</p><p>I think a much more lasting effect is achieved when drivers…</p>
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						<p>As usual, I'm arriving late to this discussion. Here are my two cents worth.</p><p>Shortly after I met the man who was to become my husband he was knocked off his bicycle by a jogger. From memory the jogger ran off swearing. My fella struggled to his feet, bruised and…</p>
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						<p>While cycle lanes are often poorly placed, I think they do have a role as permanent markers of territory.  They say "cyclists use this road", even when no cyclists are visible.</p><p>Of course, some cycle lanes say "cyclists use this road, and I, the painter of this cycle lane, wish…</p>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						I'm not sure if I've noticed it too (or, I have noticed it but I'm not sure if it's really happening) &ndash; a genuine shift in space while passing, and an inclination to pause for a few seconds behind me on the narrow Herne Bay bits, and some respect. It's…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:02:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Road sharing is the way forward.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed.</p><p>A couple of thoughts. </p><p>1) Visibility and expectation. If motorists consciously or subconsciously expect there to be cyclists, they ought to be more cautious. My guess is this would avert the bulk of vehicle/cycle accidents that were the fault of the motorist. We…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:43:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, wait, you said <em>dyke</em>.</p></blockquote><p>With a beard, even. Donald Dyke?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:42:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Best thing I’ve had shouted at me from a car: “DYKE!” </p><p>Best thing I’ve had thrown at me from a car: a fork. I’ve still got it.</p></blockquote><p>nice of them to give you a warning before throwing things at you.</p><p>Oh, wait, you said <em>dyke</em>.  Sorry, having a bit of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:26:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>Ride in a straight line, far enough out to be safe from unexpected doors. If you get in someone’s way it is because they don’t have room to pass you safely. This is not your problem unless you are a road engineer.</blockquote>This. Which is why marked "cycle lanes" on the…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:28:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/cars-to-blame-in-most-accidents-involving-bicycles-says-research-calling-for-new-passing-rules/story-e6frg6nf-1225958334292" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Australian study</a> verifies that driver attention is a major problem <br />(h/t Lance Wiggs).</p><blockquote><p>Drivers were at fault in 87 per cent of incidents with cyclists and most did not realise they had behaved in a reckless or unsafe manner, according to the Monash University Accident Research Centre and The Amy…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:16:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>most people – drivers, cyclists, pedestrians, that idiot on the kick scooter – are actually pretty considerate and nice</p></blockquote><p>I thought I'd said that, but I see I neglected to do so.  Thanks, Jack.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:21:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>the past few days I have sensed a bit of a sea change in motorists’ attitudes while I’ve been out pedalling around Wellington.</p></blockquote><p>I think this is something that we should probably highlight: most people &ndash; drivers, cyclists, pedestrians, that idiot on the kick scooter &ndash; are actually pretty considerate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:02:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Total dyke &mdash; embrace it. :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:26:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						I've never been sure of that one as a cyclist, either.  So if I intend to go straight ahead, I make a point of pulling out of the cycle lane and slightly in front of the car, so they can tell I'm not just some left-turning cyclist who's neglected to…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:01:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						I'm always a little unsure about what to do in that situation, as a car driver wanting to turn left, and indicating (of course!).  If a cyclist comes up in the cycle lane, between the car lane and the footpath, and she wants to go straight ahead while I want…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:28:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rachaelking</title>
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						Not sure what it's like in Auckland or wherever, but here in Christchurch, cars park on the cycle lane. It infuriates me the way some drivers down here think that a single lane + a cycle lane = two lanes when approaching intersections and I frequently have to get off…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:17:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p>I wouldn't say the streets are <em>that</em> narrow in Auckland. Having trouble following your logic, but can't help but feel sympathy over the "h.c." which at times borders on the totally callous and ghastly. But I have a certain optimism.</p><p>Perhaps we've reached a critical mass kind of level, where…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:02:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						My very anecdotal impression is that people in Auckland open their driver doors without looking more often than people in Christchurch do.  Since the streets are narrow in Auckland and there are more cyclists in Christchurch, I have tentatively concluded that drivers are more motivated by concern for the lives…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:43:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p>Any driver who opens a car door on a busy street, without checking for <em>all</em> traffic, be it motorised or pedal-powered, is an idiot.</p><p>Not only is it dangerous for the driver, it could mean the end of a door, if a car passes too closely. </p><p>Perhaps appealing to people's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:16:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						Coming to this a bit late, but a couple of thoughts... raised medium strips, pedestrian refuges or pedestrian curb extensions may well have a purpose but they do not consider ALL road users and they are bloody dangerous for cyclists.  I was hit by a boat on Tamaki Drive... yes…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:10:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						Actually &ndash; maybe I have just been lucky, but in the past few days I have sensed a bit of a sea change in motorists' attitudes while I've been out pedalling around Wellington. Passing manouevres have been cautious and respectful, and the things yelled out of car windows have been…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:08:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Zoink and the Doughty Hypotheticals &ndash; zither rockabilly for the new millenium
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:56:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						The thing is that you have on the one hand actual deaths that have actually happened, and on the other some hypotheticals about what might increase risks.  Your hypotheticals all assume that people parking on Tamaki Drive have no other options for how they travel, which is not an assumption…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:55:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>your doughty hypotheticals</p></blockquote><p>And so I've found a name for my band. Zoink!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:53:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Preventing car parking on Tamaki Dr may do several things: <br />&ndash; increase the distances to walk to the beach, which increases the risk to pedestrians as they have to cross more roads.<br />&ndash; encourage illegal parking, which may occur in even worse spots.<br />&ndash; encourage double parking where the family…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:30:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>Best thing I've had shouted at me from a car: "DYKE!" </p><p>I mean, I've got a beard, FFS. </p><p>Best thing I've had thrown at me from a car: a fork.  I've still got it.</p><p>Then again, I've had quite a few things shouted at me from passing cars over the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:51:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						I tend to assume that anything shouted from a car can be directly translated as “I’M IN A CAR!!!!!!!”
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:41:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p>Last night, while innocently wheeling my bike along the footpath in fully legal pedestrian mode, a slack-jawed yokel in a passing car called out "Heard of a car?"<br />Still not sure that I understood that one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:37:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<p>Isaac, its a discussion about safety and road fatalities.  Any preventable death is a tragedy, but this death is no more important than any other preventable future death.  It is a callous debate.</p><p>Allowing legal car parking on Tamaki Dr increases traffic constriction with potentially hazardous mingling of cyclists and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:32:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I'm not a fucking cyclist. I'm Joe, knocking over your shopping bag :-)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:25:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And it’s the latter I see from other cyclists every day. Grown men riding on the footpath.</p></blockquote><p>Wasn't me. While I've just got in from a fairly lengthy trip, much of it on the footpath, I'm not a cyclist. I just happen to ride a bike.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:06:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						See, I'm pretty sure this is why we write one Book of Rules for everybody.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:43:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Honestly, the world would be a better place if everyone would just listen to me and the Book of Rules.</p></blockquote><p>I've already implemented that rule. So your theory will only work if your book of rules is copied from my book of rules.</p><p>In which case, there's this old thread…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:31:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						Angus, I'm sure it was not your intent, but can you see how your assertion that "people need to park their cars" comes across as a little callous in a context in which other people are actually getting killed because of where cars are parked?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:27:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What is sensible behaviour for a car is often bloody daft for a cyclist, or motorcyclist.</p><p>Descending a steep hill with only one hand on your brakes because you have to hold the other one out as your turn signal, for example?</p></blockquote><p>Oh granted, I was being more than a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:16:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Angus, certainly representative of classic thinking for that particular community &ndash; that the only way to get somewhere is to drive one's car and demand a park for it only a very short walk from one's objective. Else social order and the economy would surely collapse.. :)</p><p>Local knowledge is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:41:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Descending a steep hill with only one hand on your brakes because you have to hold the other one out as your turn signal, for example?</p></blockquote><p>I believe that's the little known "stick your appropriate leg out" alternative sub-rule.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:24:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						The community board had to address the concerns of the community and very few support removal of parking spaces on Tamaki Drive.  There are lots of very popular beaches and people need to park their cars.  If there are too few carparks people will park illegally or park on narrow…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:48:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:35:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>you are not providing a convenience for drivers, you are just confusing them</p></blockquote><p>This. Remember some of them are easily confused. Be predictable. Really try to do the thing the car drivers expects you to do.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:32:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In my mind, I don’t think it is too strong to suggest that the Council and some of its employees are criminally negligent and directly responsible for Jane’s death.</p></blockquote><p>More precisely, the members of the former Eastern and Bays Community Board, who chose political convenience and personal preference over safety…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:33:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isaac Freeman</title>
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						I am a cyclist.  I had a learner driver’s licence once, but it expired a decade ago.  I seldom take the bus.  So hopefully I can say this without being taken for a rabid motorist: some people on bicycles are idiots.  Not suicidal idiots, not idiots who deserve to be…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:23:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Mark Bracey of Cycle Action Auckland <a href="http://cyclingauckland.co.nz/front/2010/11/d-i-c-death-in-charge-of-a-council/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on the Cycling in Auckland blog</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately, my faith in the Auckland Council to create a safe cycling environment for us has been seriously undermined from years of inaction.  In my mind, I don’t think it is too strong to suggest that the Council…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:16:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you sure you weren’t a Milanese urban designer in a previous life?</p></blockquote><p>With this dress sense?</p><blockquote><p>Which proves that there are arseholes on bikes, just as there are arseholes in a cars and, for that matter, arseholes on foot</p></blockquote><p>Indeed.  The sad fact of it is, there are a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>who found her conversation with her gal pal much more important than other pedestrians</p></blockquote><p>Every now and then when I'm feeling grumpy I take pleasure in <em>not</em> diving out of the way of the gaggle of usually three or four ladies chatting who have decided the footpath is theirs and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:57:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This sounds a lot like the “don’t blame the flies for being attracted to the meat” argument.</p></blockquote><p>Or the Lisa ad from ALAC.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[...] but there are occasional stories of people on bikes behaving like the worst kind of driver, i.e. knocking over children and then insisting that it was the child’s fault.</p></blockquote><p>Which proves that there are arseholes on bikes, just as there are arseholes in a cars and, for that matter,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:11:48 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>re. M.Laws:</p><blockquote><p>...there is no practical solution, other than cyclists accepting that it is they who have the greatest responsibility to stay safe.</p></blockquote><p>This sounds a lot like the "don't blame the flies for being attracted to the meat" argument.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:57:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>richard</title>
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						I am wondering if part of the animus toward cyclists is that (despite the rantings of the chap masquerading as a motoring journalist) most drivers are aware that if they did seriously damage a cyclist, there would likely be consequences, and they are trying to (psychologically, at least) establish a…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:01:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There’s also a lot of cars turning into or pulling out of the aforementioned businesses;</p></blockquote><p>For most of this year I was working at the Christchurch School of Medicine, which involved a bike ride to work turning right off Rolleston Ave, across a shared footpath/cyclepath, into the hospital driveway. </p><p>Cyclists…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:15:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						More on the Puhoi to Wellsford folly – Auckland Transport Blog  <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/2010/11/21/rod-oram-on-the-holiday-highway/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">quotes Rod Oram’s analysis</a> in today’s Sunday Star-Times. He offers another angle on why we’d be better investing the money in public transport and urban cycle lanes (which these days in other countries tend to be more than a…
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						<blockquote><p>I think that we’d just end up with the same footpaths we currently have, with the same design issues, but with a small bicyle painted on them at 100m intervals.</p></blockquote><p>Are you sure you weren't a Milanese urban designer in a previous life?</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We could use a few of these signs around the place.<br />BIKERS MUST YEILD TO PEDESTRIANS AT ALL TIMES – PLEASE GO SLOW</p></blockquote><p><em>In situ</em> that sign looks pretty good. There are a lot of designated shared paths here in Chch that seem to work pretty well, but there are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:55:11 +1300</pubDate>
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						Anecdata: the part of my bike commute that I feel least safe, and the part where I've seen the most accidents, is on a shared footpath. Specifically, the section between the bottom of the Ngauranga Gorge and Thorndon Quay (in Wellington).  The path goes along in front of a lot…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:12:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I can’t quite see where he gets the ratio of death to serious injury from but<br />2600 don’t look so bad compared to the others on the injuring/killing fields.</p></blockquote><p>Kitt asked how many pedestrians are killed or injured by cyclists, and there’s your answer: three deaths a year in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:45:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I'm happy to put in a good word for Giant bikes, too. My first mountain bike was a Giant Yukon, pretty basic with no suspension and well before the invention of disk brakes .. I eventually gave in to the lure of these modern wonders, but there's really nothing wrong…
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				<title>Kitt McGregor</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the footpath, the cyclist is the fastest and most dangerous thing around. It may increase their safety, but it often decreases everyone else’s, which isn’t really a net gain.</p><p>Not when I’m doing it, as I’m not very fast. And I’m constantly on and off the footpath for all…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:35:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Gio, I don’t want to get prissy but….here is your guys full paragraph:</p><blockquote><p>In the last ten years, just over 7,600 pedestrian were killed by motor vehicles while 29 were killed by cyclists. Over the same period, 364,000 pedestrians were injured by motor vehicles, almost 76,000 (or 21%) of them…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:34:26 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>I’d love to be able to buy a simple 5 or 8 or even 10 gear bike. Just spare me the 21 gears and complicated cogs and shifts and stuff that I can’t fix myself when something goes wrong. I don’t want to have to be a bicycle mechanic to…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:16:23 +1300</pubDate>
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						Mmmhhh… except it was every ten years. So, roughly 260 a year, with 50 serious injuries and 3 deaths. To answer your question.
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						<blockquote><p>Tell me… just exactly how many pedestrians have been injured/killed by bikes?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/2032823_tragedy_of_pedestrian_hit_by_cyclist__" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">You</a> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8577612.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">mean</a> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-11496679" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">worldwide</a>? It’s rare but it happens. Actually in terms of injurying it’s not <a href="http://adrianfitch.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/are-cyclists-a-bigger-threat-to-pedestrians-than-motor-vehicles/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">all that rare</a>. (I don’t consider 2,600 injury-causing accidents in a year in the UK alone, a fifth of which involving serious injury,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:24:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How many pedestrians have been injured/killed by bikes?</p></blockquote><p>Bikes don't kill people, <br />people kill people...<br />just like cars don't kill people, <br />people in cars kill people...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:18:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Laws, a middle-aged fitness cyclist himself, is rather more reasonable when he’s part of the story.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry, he's still toad, the wet sprocket to me...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:12:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kitt McGregor</title>
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						<blockquote><p>| Does anyone else use the footpath for short commutes around town?<br />| Surely the safer option?</p><p>Except for the pedestrians, of course.</p></blockquote><p>Tell me... just exactly how many pedestrians have been injured/killed by bikes?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:10:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lisa Black</title>
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						<p>Deborah &ndash; fixing bikes is for the most part exceptionally easy. The only kinds of gears you can't easily fix yourself are the internal hub gears, and they practically never get anything wrong with them. They just sort of go until they die.</p><p>Buying a new bike from Rode for…</p>
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						<p>Thank you, Kevin. I can only hope I would be as generous-hearted were I ever to find myself in the same horrible situation.</p><p>When I first read the Herald headline of "Driver devastated &ndash; life ruined" or some such my first thought was &ndash; why are they focussing on her?…</p>
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						<p>Politics is resolution of competing influence and needs to allocate resources and attention. Sure, media helps.</p><p>But goodness knows how keeping a solid median strip and 4 roadside carparks was regarded as more important than addressing repeated injuries to legitimate road users since 2006. Wonder what Kelly Tarlton’s were asked…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:30:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That’s a political problem.</p></blockquote><p>Not it's not &mdash; the problem is that if you're going to be a suicidal cyclist, make sure you're part of a cluster in a slow news week. Really seems to be the only way to make anyone give a shit.</p>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						So that was you, Russell! Is that why you didn't answer when I said "Hi Dan!"?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:02:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the footpath, the cyclist is the fastest and most dangerous thing around. It may increase their safety, but it often decreases everyone else’s, which isn’t really a net gain.</p></blockquote><p>Not when I'm doing it, as I'm not very fast. And I'm constantly on and off the footpath for all…</p>
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<blockquote>Never had those issues cycling in London, Germany or Holland. Even in London(!) people cared about you on the busy city road.</blockquote> I cycle 100+ km in and around London every week and aside from the odd jerk who decides to turn into a side street without indicating, most drivers…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>And on a happier note: I rode over to Onehunga this afternoon, via the SH20 cycleway, and came back via War Memorial Park and the creekside reserves it leads to. It was bloody great.</p><p>Also: stopped at Dressmart and bought some sunglasses at the Adidas outlet store, at a third…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:27:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just spare me the 21 gears and complicated cogs and shifts and stuff that I can’t fix myself when something goes wrong. I don’t want to have to be a bicycle mechanic to get on my bike to go to the shop to get a litre of milk.</p></blockquote><p>It's really…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:23:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/opinion/4368596/What-we-cyclists-can-do-to-stop-the-deaths" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Laws’ column</a> contains some of the usual reflexive conjuring of facts:</p><blockquote><p>Sadly, this will prove an exercise in irrelevance because there is no practical solution, other than cyclists accepting that it is they who have the greatest responsibility to stay safe. And to stop pissing off motorists with their…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:21:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I’d love to be able to buy a simple 5 or 8 or even 10 gear bike. Just spare me the 21 gears and complicated cogs and shifts and stuff that I can’t fix myself when something goes wrong.</p></blockquote><p>You can, but they tend to be imported and expensive. My…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:14:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>More politics. Our current Minister of Transport and his colleagues also de-prioritised and de-funded safety programmes in general, along with maintanance of both local roads and existing highways (noticed more potholes?) and of public transport investment to match demand and population growth. </p><p>Why? To provide budget for their beefy highways…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:55:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<blockquote><p>General cyclist education would be a good thing, but it should take place in schools rather than testing stations.</p></blockquote><p>"Back in may day" &ndash; Hackneyed but. I remember regular (at least yearly) visits to primary school in the 60s of the Traffic Officer and his trailer of bikes and peddle…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:42:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it’s a shame if future peoples are going to see cycling as a rather specialised recreational activity involving lots of special gear rather than just … transport.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, it's rather hard to buy a bike that's "just ... transport."  They all seem to come with masses of unnecessary gears, no…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:37:58 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Does anyone else use the footpath for short commutes around town?<br />Surely the safer option?</p></blockquote><p>Except for the pedestrians, of course.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>So did anyone abuse you whilst accompanying  the signage? You could have just pointed to the back of the bus. Sorted! <br />:)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:15:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Sofie, that campaign's been going on for a while. I used to get a bit of a giggle from cycling along behind buses that had those signs on them.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:02:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kevin M</title>
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						Greg, you have brought the human element to this debate.  If every person on a bike and every driver of a car looked into the eyes of each other they would see a person, one who has much the same dreams and aspirations as them and suddenly they become somebody…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:02:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>I noticed a back of the bus billboard t'other day .<br />It showed 1.5 meter measurement indicated with arrows , a picture of a bike, and the words (suchliketotheeffectof) 'Take care, we are all sharing this road. ."<br />None of the "This is mine, all mine fuck off outta my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:35:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I'm struck by the number of red herrings that get thrown into this argument: bicycle WOFs (even though there's no evidence that that poorly-maintained cycles are a significant factor in cycle accidents) and licences (even though nearly all adult cyclists already have drivers' licences).</p><p>But the fact is that in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:06:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The people that really drive me to distraction<br />are the drivers with headphones on.</p></blockquote><p>indeed, there is not much to chauffer <br />taking that diversion...</p><p>...the ones who also irk me are people like the woman<br />I saw the other day, texting in rush hour, while driving<br />with a toddler in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:05:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>City of Sydney research showed a 388% return on investment for transport-cycling infrastructure.</p></blockquote><p>Compares quite well with a benefit-cost ratio as low as 20% for Joyce’s new $1,700,000,000 highway from <a href="http://transportblog.co.nz/tag/puhoi-wellsford-motorway/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Puhoi to Wellsford</a> alongside the existing one.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:50:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>HORansome</title>
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						Is it me, or is the new Public Address more liable to punning? I'd love to know what part of Supermodel CMS is causing that.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:48:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In 19th century newspaper articles, use of the comma, is, generous and seem, ingly random. I am led to wonder, if, perchance this, has something to do, with ladies in, strapped and squeezed too, tight bodices causing breath, shortage whilst reading.</p></blockquote><p>of corset is...</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:35:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lisa Black</title>
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						<p>That's changing, fortunately. The combination of such things as the Cycle Chic movement, climate change concerns, and the high return on investment in transport-cycling infrastructure* is altering persectives. </p><p>*City of Sydney research showed a 388% return on investment for transport-cycling infrastructure. Unsurprisingly the Council thought this an excellent use of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:53:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						I think you’re right, Tony, and it’s a shame if future peoples are going to  see cycling as a rather specialised recreational activity involving lots of special gear rather than just ... transport. I guess part of the problem is that our cities were designed in the golden age of…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:19:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>this most recent road death was caused by driver error</p></blockquote><p>And by poor road layout design, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10688768" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fixable</a> within a day but not attended to for 4 years. That’s a political problem.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:13:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lisa Black</title>
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						<p>Given that most people who ride bikes also drive cars, surely we can assume that if we keep drivers up to scratch on the road code they will have a fair idea of how to behave on a bike. </p><p>The differences in the cyclists' road code were taught in school…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:08:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>General cyclist education would be a good thing, but it should take place in schools rather than testing stations.</p></blockquote><p>We do a little bit in our school in conjunction with the police education officer but like a lot of things we <strong>should</strong> be doing in schools its all matter of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:20:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Plus the impracticality of licensing children.</p><p>General cyclist education would be a good thing, but it should take place in schools rather than testing stations.</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If bikes are on the road with other users it could only be of benefit to all if they had to pass a certain level of competence before they went out to tangle with the steel monsters.</p></blockquote><p>I think that would almost certainly make things much, much worse. [[http://static.radionz.net.nz/assets/audio_item/0007/2324077/ntn-20100616-1148-Science_-_David_Haywood-m048.asx|Have a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:25:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/2811/?p=191629#post191629" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yes</a>.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:38:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kitt McGregor</title>
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						<p>Does anyone else use the footpath for short commutes around town?<br />Surely the safer option?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:13:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p>Maybe we need to know the proportion of cyclists who were at fault didn't know the road code? Could well be that they did and simply ignored it. </p><p>Practically speaking, in terms of addressing the number of serious accidents involving cyclists, is mandatory testing of cyclists going to the best…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:10:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If you use the road in NZ, you have an obligation to know the road code.</p></blockquote><p>You have the same theoretical obligation in Italy too, but yeah, it's never tested if you cause an accident you're never at fault. But if the 75/25 culpability split is accurate (it was bandied…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:09:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But the analogy between the shooter and the shooting victim suggests exactly the opposite – that there is no point in educating cyclists at all.</p></blockquote><p>Ermmm no. Now you are making the assumption that it all shootings are the fault of the shooter. Maybe I should have said accidental (i.e.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:57:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p>Not more than truck drivers, no. But the analogy between the shooter and the shooting victim suggests exactly the opposite &ndash; that there is no point in educating cyclists at all. And that's pretty much just as dumb.</p><p>I used to cycle in the last city where I lived in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:36:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						More than truck drivers? Would you care to explain that, please?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:31:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To draw out your analogy more. Suppose truck/car serious accidents were 75% the fault of the truck driver and 25% the fault of the car driver. Bryan would be drawing the conclusion that car drivers need more education.</p></blockquote><p>Which would obviously be correct, unless somehow educating car drivers meant you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:26:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						If we are looking to increase education, it’s pretty clear to me which party it should be aimed at first &ndash; in the absence of unlimited resources. Same with enforcement and any other activities that can reduce death and injury and improve attitudes about sharing public space.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:20:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p>Did I say it was <strong>always</strong> the shooter’s fault? My point is that when the data shows that the fault lies largely with the “safer” party, you can’t draw the conclusion that it is the fault of the less safe one.</p><p>To draw out your analogy more. Suppose truck/car serious…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:13:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That’s like saying shooting deaths are the result of people not learning how to avoid bullets.</p></blockquote><p>What a ludicrous analogy. So I take it that when a car collides with a truck, since the car is much smaller and generally it's the car's occupants that get hurt, then it's always…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:59:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the driver/rider apportionment for accidents is about 75/25 as stated earlier it might indicate to some people that there is a problem with the way some cyclists use the road.</p></blockquote><p>Quite possibly one of the most blatant misreadings of statistical data I have ever seen.</p><p>That's like saying shooting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:20:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						The people that really drive me to distraction are the drivers with headphones on.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:12:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>take off the ipods/ mp3players when cycling/ driving</em></p><p>I agree. Why impede one of the senses when involved in a high risk task.</p></blockquote><p>It actually makes me a little bit angry on the odd occasion when I see a cyclist with earbuds in.</p><p>360º hearing is essential if you’re cycling…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:08:40 +1300</pubDate>
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