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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>Tom Scotts Cartoon is well worth a giggle.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/0a17218.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/0a17218.html</a></p><br /><br /><p>I wonder if the first offence isn't the concrete block walls of Fortress Fendalton &amp; suburban tagging a fair response to the social/civil statement these walls make?</p>
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						<p>Bugga, sorry &ndash; I don't have time to do it again.</p><p>Just looked at stats for violence &amp; traffic on age/gender basis &amp; 30-somethings lead in the punch up stakes and over 40's are far ahead on trasffic crimes.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:15:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:08:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>tell you what, i'd like to know who's going to tidy up <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~hebsed/moore.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this graffiti</a>.</p><p>i can see <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4523874a11.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some condescending cow</a> out there now, "ahmed, i tolja once, i tolja a hundred times... no heiroglyphs on the ancestor's tombs..."</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:39:34 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>This broken windows thing is a broken record.</p><p>Norman Kirk &amp; "Take the Bikes off Bikies" anyone?</p><p>And Giedeon Tait "Never Back Down".</p><p><a href="http://www.laworderreferendum.org.nz/Tait.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.laworderreferendum.org.nz/Tait.htm</a></p><p>Moral panics about graffiti, but not about middle-aged-white-men with knives.</p><p>From Stats NZ</p><p>Violence is my age group 30-39</p><p>Boy Racers are the over 40s</p><p><a href="http://wdmzpub01.stats.govt.nz/wds/TableViewer/tableView.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://wdmzpub01.stats.govt.nz/wds/TableViewer/tableView.aspx</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:28:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This is one reason I'm not entirely convinced that 'zero tolerance' and 'broken windows' should be dismissed out of hand. I'm not very familiar with the reasearch, but the conclusion seems to be 'not proven to work in isolation from anything else', rather than 'doesn't work at all'.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm. Toilets…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:16:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The 'broken windows' thing works for graffiti. At least in toilets.</p></blockquote><p>This is one reason I'm not entirely convinced that 'zero tolerance' and 'broken windows' should be dismissed out of hand. I'm not very familiar with the reasearch, but the conclusion seems to be 'not proven to work in isolation…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:02:06 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not 100% sure on the details of the maquillage</p></blockquote><p>heh. clearly remember seeing him on tv and thinking at the time (and you're right, the late 80s), "most probably a cock."</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:40:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>regardless, laws will always be a mustachio'ed, be-mulleted, en-made-up 90s celebrity in my eyes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not 100% sure on the details of the maquillage, but it's been the same since the late 1980s. Definitely a candidate for a makeunder, in that case.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:29:23 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I thought it was one word, "mascara"?</p></blockquote><p>hmmm... probably a my bad there.</p><p>regardless, laws will always be a mustachio'ed, be-mulleted, en-made-up 90s celebrity in my eyes.</p><p>and yes, that is celebrity in a pejorative sense.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:24:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't see why &mdash; I know some thoroughly appalling people whose deep love for their families are their sole redeeming feature. Otherwise, still triple-decker turd burgers.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I know exactly what you mean.  I guess I was just musing that sometimes a change in personal circumstances can change one's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:22:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The problem with journalism in NZ, IMHO, is the prevalence of the “Look at me, look at me, look at meeeee” factor.</p></blockquote><p>Eh, but Laws is only a journalist in the most literal "writes for a journal" sense.</p><p>I never thought I would miss Frank Haden, but I do. At…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:00:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You'd have thought Laws' own recent family troubles &ndash; and the accompanying public sympathy, including mine &ndash; might have tempered his reflexive tendency to put rhetoric before ethics like a bad high school debater. But no.</p></blockquote><p>I don't see why &mdash; I know some thoroughly appalling people whose deep love…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 09:23:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't fathom how he (BorisJohnson)) won. Surely it isn't just becoz he's a famous dickhead.</p></blockquote><p>Well, it works in Auckland and Wanganui, why not London?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 08:56:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>You'd have thought Laws' own recent family troubles &ndash; and the accompanying public sympathy, including mine &ndash; might have tempered his reflexive tendency to put rhetoric before ethics like a bad high school debater. But no. </blockquote> That's the first thing I thought when I read Russell's post, Jolisa. I felt…
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						<p>@ Che:</p><blockquote><p>michael laws: two words, "eye" + "liner".</p></blockquote><p>I thought it was one word, "mascara"? </p><p>@ Nick: Thanks for the radio report; perhaps my earlier analogy was not so wrong after all. A person would really have to be <em>thinking like a Nazi</em> to argue that they didn't kill…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I've been thinking about line that today. I'm more shocked that no editor had the good sense and decency to yank it out.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry for being a broken record here, but I'm still trying to fathom why Cate Brett hasn't had the contents of her desk thrown out the nearest…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:09:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						<p>What a yucky strange man Mr Laws is. </p><p>I'm ranting, raving lunatic with paranoia that our major newspaper publishers are trying kill me (Russ will attest to my freakouts) so this just further cements my fear that New Zealanders have gone mad.</p><p>The 'broken window', zero tolerance policy that Guliani…</p>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						<p>The most disgusting views I have had heard Laws express on Radio were those on the family who had their power cut off and the mother, who needed a mains powered oxygen machine to assist with breathing, died.</p><p>His lack of empathy on a wide range of issues I cannot…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<p>The 'broken windows' thing works for graffiti. At least in toilets. </p><p>A long, long time ago, I was researching gender differences in toilet graffiti, and noticed that some rest-rooms had none, while others had large amounts of 'data'. The previous research suggested that prompt cleaning reduced the overall volume, and…</p>
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						<p>Nick &amp; Don, the comments were noticed but I don't listen to Laws &amp; this jem isn't online so over to you to get a recording of it and make it known or make a complaint.</p><p>Once a recording or transcript is in the open I'll comment then.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the elected mayor concept just encourages egotripping assholes (it's just the same in the UK)..</p></blockquote><p>Boris Johnson won.  Get over it.  And at the risk of being a tad bitchy, this is about as tiresome as the numptys over on Kiwiblog who think MMP is an unmitigated disaster…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Nick, your comment seems to have escaped notice. </p><p>I have seen the Holocaust misused often for petty unsubstantial political agendas, right and left ... but the complaint you make against Laws is real and serious. Frankly, the guy should be off radio and print for that shit. It's outrageous.</p>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>I basically haven't listened to talkback radio since about 1995 (well, excluding radio sport which on a rare occasion can get me hitting the off dial, like during Veitch, Deaker, Lose... OK so half of it).</p><p>I replaced all that time with bourban's &amp; Cokes and plenty of beer.</p><p>It's been…</p>
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						<p>McVicar really is from the Seniel Sentences Trust.</p><p>I can't quite understand how he can maitain such bitterness and loathing for others. </p><p>Does he have a hard done-by story?</p><p>His identifying with the guy who stabbed the youth, is it age, race, class?</p><p>Is he finding an acceptable outlet for…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't fathom how he won.</p></blockquote><p>Because he was on the other team from Gordon Brown.  Simple, really.</p><p>Though the fact that Red Ken was actually pursuing a left-wing agenda in London made it far more difficult for Boris than his party-mates had it in the rest of the country.</p>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<p><em>I think the elected mayor concept just encourages egotripping assholes (it's just the same in the UK)</em></p><p>the horrifying Boris....should i read his first novel "Seventy two Virgins" I wonder??</p><p>I can't fathom how he won. Surely it isn't just becoz he's a famous dickhead. Hope it's not becoz voters…</p>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wouldn't say he's my favourite columnist, but he writes authentically and with some heart.</p></blockquote><p>I know what you mean &ndash; the column I read was heartfelt and engaging.</p><p>But I feel that his heart is sentimental &ndash; and he has no self-irony. </p><p>And I find it hard to forgive…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And yes, the gay panic defence was absolutely disgusting and I hope it gets excised from the case law at the earliest possible opportunity.</p></blockquote><p>Don't say that too loudly around McVicar and the rest of the SST/Family Fist crowd. You'll be contributing to the moral decline of society if you…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Russell, is there any way we can read Paul Holmes' winning columns or are they not available on the net? It hurts me physically to think he won a national writing award.</p></blockquote><p>It shouldn't, really. I wouldn't say he's my favourite columnist, but he writes authentically and with some heart.…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I long ago decided that listening to or reading Michael Laws was like accidentally seeing some beastiality on your PC &ndash; before you realise it, you've lost something you can never get back.</p><p>So I don't listen to him or read his words. Simple.</p>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Dave Hansford, formerly and controversially of the Listener, won his category and was in the final three for best overall columnist, which was won (cue massed gritting of teeth in the room) by Paul Holmes, who can actually write, dammit.</p></blockquote><p>Russell, is there any way we can read Paul Holmes'…</p>
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						Oh sorry, I simul-posted with Graeme &ndash;  I would trust his legal advice far ahead of mine, I didn't finish law school.
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is however the partial defence of &ndash; I forget what it's technically called &ndash; blind rage.</p></blockquote><p>This is basically a defence of insanity, I think, albeit temporary.  It's the old "I was out of control and therefore not responsible for my actions" one.</p><p>And yes, the gay panic defence…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is however the partial defence of &ndash; I forget what it's technically called &ndash; blind rage.</p></blockquote><p>The partial defence (that turns a murder rap into manslaughter) is <strong>provocation</strong>.</p><p>The Law Commission has recommended getting rid of it. It largely stems from a time when the death penalty was mandatory…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>michael laws: two words, "eye" + "liner".</p></blockquote><p>He should perhaps also note that if he's going to complain about Teh Gays, it would be wise to not write columns going into quite so much detail about Doug Howlett's pumping thighs.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So on the positive side, Laws has certainly got the attention of his citizens and brought Wanganui into the spotlight.</p></blockquote><p>Personally I'd be happier with a council leader that keeps the pavements in repair and the garbage collected then a failed national politician / minor media commentator out to boost…</p>
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						<p><strong>My Michael Laws Story</strong></p><p>Make of it what you will, and it actually happened TODAY <br /><em>this morning</em> in fact:</p><p>Laws always starts his 9am Radio Live show with a 15-20 minute rant to get the listeners stirred up and calling in. At 9.14AM on 12 May 08 he said (I'm…</p>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<p>Lyndon, I thought that only applied to being killing gay people.</p><p>You are right, it is so f'ed up and offensive. What is the point of trying to punish hate crimes, if the fact that they were gay is a defense.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I heard that the developer had basically been let off.</p></blockquote><p>Quite aside from the court-imposed penalties, he had to front to a "restorative justice" meeting with the locals where he was roundly abused by all and sundry. Sounds like it actually went a bit OTT, but the basic message was,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>And I'm with Jolisa over the Austrian cellar dweller gibe &ndash; I've seen the odd mild joke about that awful affair that was (just) on the fair side of the decency/comedy line, but directly impugning the education of a girl imprisoned and raped for decades to make your (already offensive)…</blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Knives don't kill people. Frustration-over-the possibility-of-minor-vandalism kills people.</p></blockquote><p>Genius. Do you think that extends to frustration-over-the-<em>gross-lack-of-talent</em> kills people</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>Last I checked "frustration" was not a defence to murder.</blockquote>There is however the partial defence of &ndash; I forget what it's technically called &ndash; blind rage. I have no reason to think it's being invoked here. But you might remember it from the "I killed him because he propositioned me…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:15:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						Laws seems to polarise the locals as far as his mayoral job goes, but they had the same mayor, one Chas Poynter, for many years previously. Half the population had probably never heard of him. So on the positive side, Laws has certainly got the attention of his citizens and…
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm going to state the obvious, in thinking that he faces the murder charge because he stabbed someone with a knife and they died, rather than, he got frustrated.</p></blockquote><p>Knives don't kill people. Frustration-over-the possibility-of-minor-vandalism kills people.</p><p><br />And I'm with Jolisa over the Austrian cellar dweller gibe &ndash; I've seen…</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So the next time I get "frustrated" with Garth McVicar I can come at him with a knife?</p></blockquote><p>Get in line.</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						It's a particularly reductive view of 'Pakeha' culture. I identify as Pakeha, I think we have a culture that is distinct (admittedly largely due to Maori and geographical influences), but I wish more was done constructively to nail it down and study it.
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						Matthew, yes that is the story I was told about. I heard that the developer had basically been let off. But the kind of justice meted out to him does seem just and what is a good example of Judges using wise discretion.
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						<p>Perhaps Andrew S you were thinking of <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2005/09/utter-contempt-for-law.html#comment" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[Sandra Goudie, National MP, and her mates who did not even get prosecuted for illegally clearing mangroves in Whangamata?</a>  (Link is to an old post, but there was no prosecution in the end).</p><p>Last I checked "frustration" was not a defence to murder.…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, that happened before Laws. I don't think he can take credit for the main street clean up, the museum, the art gallery, Ucol or even the Rutland Arms.</p><p>All I have seen from Laws are sneering attempts to dismantle any "vibrancy".</p></blockquote><p>Yes, in thinking about that issue I was…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm reminded of a land developer who willfully cut down ancient Puhutukawas and had no penalty.</p></blockquote><p>Where was that? You're not thinking of the development in Royal Oak? There the offender was ordered to plant replacement pohutukawas, and tend to them for the next 25 years. Smack in the middle…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>For some reason, Michael Law's latest column, A Pakeha Fights Back, is among the editors' picks on Stuff this morning.</p></blockquote><p>I've often wondered about those picks, though. They seem pretty random. (Currently, the editor is quite proud of "Showdown will put Tua back on the map" and "Sky TV Web…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but Laws appears to have done a reasonable job making that city vibrant again</p></blockquote><p>No, that happened before Laws. I don't think he can take credit for the main street clean up, the museum, the art gallery, Ucol or even the Rutland Arms.</p><p>All I have seen from Laws are…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>This isn't the same as supporting taggers, but it did occasion this spectacularly revolting statement from the Sensible Sentencing Trust, in which Garth McVicar declared that "her comments are hugely provocative at a time when a decent hard working citizen is facing a murder charge because of his frustration over…</blockquote>
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>Laws is, well, ummm, ahhh, ermmm &ndash; at least he's predictable. You always know what you're going to get with him; a failed and deceitful MP  (Antoinette Beck anyone?) spouting populist rubbish even his ex-Boss Winnie doesn't seem to believe.</p><p>But it's great that the most embattled and endangered group…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						<p>I'm an ex-Wanganui lad. It's my old patch. I haven't lived there for 25 years, but Laws appears to have done a reasonable job making that city vibrant again. But I lack good sources here!</p><p>I hate tagging and I simply don't understand the reasons why people do it. But…</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[Michael Laws says young offenders have]: "the collective education of an Austrian cellar dweller"</p></blockquote><p>He actually <em>wrote that</em>? Ugh. Just, ugh. What a bizarre and revolting thing to say. </p><p>It's tempting to respond that a writer would have to have "the collective empathy of an Austrian child-imprisoning rapist" to turn…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I got the revolution blues,<br />I see bloody fountains,<br />And ten million dune buggies<br />comin' down the mountains.<br />Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon<br />is full of famous stars,<br />But I hate them worse than lepers<br />and I'll kill them<br />in their cars.</p></blockquote><p>Neil Young<br />Revolution Blues</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Feel free to read it, but you've read it before: it's the one Laws writes about once a month, contrasting decent, middle-class white families with feckless brown ones.</p></blockquote><p>Dear Cate Brett: I can write equally stupid columns for the price of a carton of butts (Lucky Strikes preferably) shoved through…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>I guess you have to at least admire Laws' breadth of knowledge on these matters; he's clearly read third-hand reports of aged executive summaries from largely discredited psuedo-science-based policy. </p><p>Interestingly, in the mid-90s when Guiliani appeared to be making progress in NYC and the Wisconsin mob were in the ascendency,…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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