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Mark Thomas

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:12:26 +1200

CRT/magnetic correction for hemisphere

OMG. i just tried reading that link. waaaay over my head

Mark Thomas

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:09:03 +1200

as a barely competent amateur photographer, my understanding is that we get exactly the same monitors in NZ as everywhere else, and it's up to the user to calibrate it to suit.

the lighting in the room is what is relevant – i don't think many people use their TV/computer…

Jackie Clark

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:00:43 +1200

Simplistic the icons may be, but I think they speak to some of the major percieved differences in viewpoints.

mark taslov

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:05:02 +1200

...got me thinking, and this is pretty relevant to the whole effort and the discussion above.

perception of the homeland compared to other countries...

the rest

1,2,3,4,(5),6,7,8,9,0,

Chinese

(1)/2

mark taslov

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:50:38 +1200

Nice work posting those icons Russell, enjoyed them, only one which left me scratching head was the 'me', which seemed to conveniently overlook the absolute ego machine that is the one child policy child. or maybe that small sized me was merely the reflection of grandma in the eye of…

Kyle Matthews

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:29:46 +1200

I've heard Yanis's idea before, that in a society in rural-urban transition (like modern China) having brown skin is a mark of being part of the "primitive" rural masses rather than a "sophisticated" urbanite. It would be interesting to see if this was the case in 18th Century Europe, for…

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:09:59 +1200

CRT monitors *are* corrected for hemisphere – at least some are and some can be adjusted.

When doing high-end photoshop work, people usually calibrate their monitor (LCD or CRT) against a Pantone card. This ensures that the blue that comes out the printer matches the blue that the…

Jeremy Eade

Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:17:26 +1200

The climate change issue election 2008?

The question about this issue is this,
Is climate change non belief as heavy as evolution non belief?
Are these people (lockwood and maurice) rational or are they nuts?
When do we stop listening to scientists?

Peter Ashby

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:03:46 +1200

It is my understanding that in 18thC England at least the staying pale bit was indeed practiced, especially amongst the aristocracy and the rising middle classes. The fainting spells that women of the era were famously prone to was not just tight corsets, it was because they were almost certainly…

Shep Cheyenne

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:53:42 +1200

Essentialism starts off as being a bit twee at 1st glance but it leads to some pretty exclusive assumptions.

The "West" are a homogeneous group and black people aren't part of the group.

Oh yeah and what does that say for the native Taiwanese?

I'm sure given a 1/2 hour…

Yamis

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:53:38 +1200

And what's particularly 'Asian' about that? Might be worth remembering that 'an all-over tan' is as much a product of moneyed leisure (peasants don't have a lot of time for lying on the beach making sure their tits and arse get equally baked) as grabbing your parasol before venturing forth…

Jim Cathcart

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:12:32 +1200

The skin discrimination is one I've encountered in every Asian country I've been to. In Japan, however, there's a trend among some teenagers to torch themselves under sunbeds to an extreme effect. These kids don't usually play by "the rules," but they're not that punk rock in my opinion.

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:04:07 +1200

I've heard Yanis's idea before, that in a society in rural-urban transition (like modern China) having brown skin is a mark of being part of the "primitive" rural masses rather than a "sophisticated" urbanite. It would be interesting to see if this was the case in 18th Century Europe, for…

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:59:07 +1200

New Zealand film stock has less blue spectrum, more yellow

I once convinced somebody (in the heyday of dialup) that their modem wouldn't work on Finland, on account of the phone system was optimised for Finno-ugric languages and passed a different set of speech tones.

This was bullshit, BTW, but…

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:54:42 +1200

2) Browner skin is associated with the farming community who are almost looked on as the peasantry. If you have brown skin its looks like you have been spending way to much time outside doing some laborious task.

And what's particularly 'Asian' about that? Might be worth remembering that 'an…

Yamis

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:05:15 +1200

The icon about Asians trying to 'keep their skin white' or get it whiter through makeup etc reminded me of that issue in Korea.

I asked why Korean women go out of their way to keep their skin white and there were two main reasons given.

1) It makes them…

Jim Cathcart

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:41:59 +1200

The icons are very interesting depending on how you look at them. Your hardcore ethnocentrist particularly loves these stark contrasts, but being a honky domiciled in Asia, I've come to realize that the lines are often blurred or entirely missing. Often to the dismay of the orientalist (occidentalist), that's just…

Phil Palmer

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:00:50 +1200

Rich

Thanks for checking. I have been trying to follow a link to tibetanbuddhism.tribe.net and at first was a little paranoid that the free trade deal meant that China was going to frighten the nz internet into censoring itself, then just became plain irritated that the site was for some…

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:26:51 +1200

@Phil

I can see tribe, hippies and all.

Maybe a mung beam got stuck in the connection?

DPF

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:09:41 +1200

I did not use Salem Witch Trials in my first post on the issue. I just called it a big beatup.

It was in fact Colin Espiner, a non partisan Press Gallery journalist, who used that phrase in his blog post. I then blogged about his blog entry. But that…

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:55:09 +1200

If the putative anti-tax-cut Labour MPs had in fact been in an official capacity addressing interest groups — trade union meetings, perhaps — and assuring those those audiences that they personally thought Cullen's tax cuts were a load of crap, then absolutely, journalists would be (and should be) asking them…

Russell Brown

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:20:58 +1200

And I'll happily bet the farm that there will be a fair proportion of the Labour caucus talking up personal and business tax cuts through gritted teeth during campaign season, since DPF asked. I don't see the point of Guyon Espiner chasing them round chanting, "do you believe in tax…

Phil Palmer

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:00:24 +1200

OT – apologies – but is anyone else having trouble accessing xxx.tribe.net sites, or is it just ihug/vodaphne users?

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:50:23 +1200

And didn't reporters chase Maori Labour MPs around during the seabed and foreshore debate?

Certainly did — and I don't really think Nanaia Mahuta would have been too tearful if the Foreshore & Seabed Bill had never made it onto the order paper, and I understand she's said as much just…

Lyndon Hood

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:56:43 +1200

inciteful

I enjoyed a Morning report (?) interview a while back with some Fiji military type explaining that the media had to be controlled because they kept publishing insightful stories. That's what it sounded like to me, anyway.

Peter Martin

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:52:35 +1200

I get somewhat annoyed with the tribal metric placed on the politcians. Us/them...yours/ours. Collectively these people guide us and the country through to the future. I don't have a problem with anyone asking one or more of them why they are personally against something that they are also collectively in…

Steve Withers

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:45:41 +1200

For any party hack, missing the point is the whole point. Spin relies on not touching, or touching as little as possible, that part of any argument or topic that damages your own case. Being accountable for what you say is something you insist on for the OTHER guys. It's…

Russell Brown

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:45:14 +1200

*cough* Should I start pointing the pant-filling squeals of bias whenever a story unflattering to the Government appears, or do we both have much better things to do with our time?

Well, quite. But given the shrieking response to this one fairly slight story, I dread to imagine what the…

Mark Thomas

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:39:09 +1200

inciteful

great typo! i'm sure you meant insightful

Hadyn Green

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:35:20 +1200

The thing that annoyed me about the (weak) climate change story was that Espiner didn't actual ask "what is your position on climate change", because then they might have to say something other than the form answer.

And didn't reporters chase Maori Labour MPs around during the seabed and foreshore…

Rochelle Hume

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:51:41 +1200

Thanks for sharing the icons – I hadn't seen those before. Having litigated/mediated in many disputes involving Chinese business people, the 'Approach to Disputes' one was inciteful...

But I had to laugh at the party one! I had totally forgotten that when I was an exchange student in Sri Lanka…

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:22:27 +1200

It all seems to point to a remarkably sulky attitude from National's cheerleaders when the news doesn't run their way.

*cough* Should I start pointing the pant-filling squeals of bias whenever a story unflattering to the Government appears, or do we both have much better things to do with our…

Public Address

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:22:27 +1200

Discussion from blog post.