Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: I tried Sativex: it was no fun at all https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Tadhg Stopfordnz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=383598#post383598 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=383598#post383598 Tue, 28 Apr 2020 21:58:06 +1200 Shaun Lott https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370713#post370713 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370713#post370713 Some interesting reports from the recent AAAS meeting here:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/02/what-do-we-know-about-the-effects-of-medical-marijuana/

]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:49:01 +1300 Farmer Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370703#post370703 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370703#post370703 http://pickeringpost.com/story/what-works-/6928 ]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:46:15 +1300 Farmer Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370666#post370666 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370666#post370666 It simply will not do for " we the people " to be taking responsibility for our own health and well-being. That way lies . . . . freedom.
Think of the doctors.

Walter Last's "Heal Yourself " should be banned . . . . what would a forensic toxicologist…

]]> Mon, 20 Feb 2017 06:41:58 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370657#post370657 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370657#post370657 Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:32:17 +1300 Farmer Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370634#post370634 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370634#post370634 , and to take large doses at bed time, improving pain and sleep,

Which is entirely consistent with the known anxiolytic, sedative and soporific qualities of cannabis, ( and of hops also) .

So, a low- alcohol IPA and a toke should see the sandman at your doorstep :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90QQCr_Q1eQ

]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:14:20 +1300 Thomas Lumley https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370628#post370628 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370628#post370628 While I agree it would be amazing if anyone paid list price for Sativex to get high, the Seattle cannabis shops (eg) do seem to advertise quite a few products with as much or more cannabidiol than THC, so there may be a chacun à son goût issue here.

It's…

]]> Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:23:51 +1300 Shane Le Brun https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370617#post370617 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370617#post370617 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:53:15 +1300 Liam Dann https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370606#post370606 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370606#post370606 Hi Russell...Did you see this yarn? We are trying to develop it – I just stumbled upon the press release out of Canada...suggests someone at Middlemore sees value in prescribing more regularly and that NZ usage is about to increase markedly.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11801095

Enjoyed the post by the way ...

]]> Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:38:14 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370596#post370596 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370596#post370596 My GP was recommending anti epilepsy drugs for nerve pain when I decided to quit the repurposed anti depressant that were clogging my brain for little relief. From what you report Sativex might be just as bad.

Definitely not "just as bad", but I didn't find having a large dose…

]]> Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:35:11 +1300 Shane Le Brun https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370588#post370588 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370588#post370588 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:06:36 +1300 william blake https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370586#post370586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370586#post370586 My GP was recommending anti epilepsy drugs for nerve pain when I decided to quit the repurposed anti depressant that were clogging my brain for little relief. From what you report Sativex might be just as bad.

A fellow sufferer told me recently that "bud was best" but only once…

]]> Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:50:40 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370581#post370581 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370581#post370581 For future reference- none of the epilepsy drugs give a buzz, even the ones on the market 30 years ago. Ask anyone who has to take them.

That one experience has stayed with me, believe me.

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:34:41 +1300 Kay https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370576#post370576 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370576#post370576 The comparison that occurred to me was to when someone gave me a tablet of epilepsy medication at a party 30-odd years ago, assuring me it was a great buzz – and I wound up feeling really awful and foggy-headed and having to find somewhere to lie down. Sativex wasn’t… ]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:36:08 +1300 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370575#post370575 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370575#post370575 … the risk of diversion in the New Zealand setting, should Sativex be funded, is high due to the inherent nature of its active substances and the ease of administration.

It’s pretty feeble logic all things considered, one would have imagined that as qualified professionals they would have a more…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:59:19 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370574#post370574 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370574#post370574 If there was genuine risk of diversion it should be dealt with in other ways and not within the purvue of Pharmac.

I'm not sure the committee (with the possible exception of Giles Newton-Howes) really has the expertise to pronounce on likely use of Sativex in the wild. Citing its…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:09:53 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370573#post370573 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370573#post370573 I don’t think you are really meant to start using sativex at same dosage a regular user would. IIIRC a new user is meant to ramp up over several days and try to use the least amount necessary.

Yep, I know that now ….

I just did what I was…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:03:54 +1300 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370570#post370570 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370570#post370570 So THAT explains those texts.

It is deeply frustrating that Pharmac is stepping away from balancing cost/benefit relationships (and yes those include letting people die) and making the call on "risk of diversion".

If there was genuine risk of diversion it should be dealt with in other ways and not…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:48:39 +1300 mpledger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370569#post370569 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370569#post370569 I don't think you are really meant to start using sativex at same dosage a regular user would. IIIRC a new user is meant to ramp up over several days and try to use the least amount necessary.

Cannabis is really weird because it can push some people one way…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:34:46 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370568#post370568 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370568#post370568 sativexatious ponderings
Perhaps you needed a repeatable low level nerve pain event to gauge and compare the neural feedback... – hammer on finger or similar.

...also you are high-functioning professional male.
I suspect lesser mortals could be tempted to 'neck it' just in case there is a high...
Any change…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:20:30 +1300 mpledger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370567#post370567 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370567#post370567 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:14:00 +1300 Craig Walls https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370566#post370566 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370566#post370566 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:13:20 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370565#post370565 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370565#post370565 was to temper the THC high. It was subsequently that it was found to have its own medical benefits. ]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:03:08 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370564#post370564 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370564#post370564 From a pharmacological point of view, I would have thought that some partial cannabinoid receptor agonists would be favourable to opioids right off the bat.

That's certainly what people who I've spoken to say. There's also evidence that THC improves the efficacy of opioid painkillers, allowing lower doses.

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:20:02 +1300 Shaun Lott https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370563#post370563 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370563#post370563 it makes the nerve pain associated with MS manageable and allows her to get by with a low or no dose of the more-readily-prescribed opioids

From a pharmacological point of view, I would have thought that some partial cannabinoid receptor agonists would be favourable to opioids right off the bat.…

]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:13:25 +1300 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370562#post370562 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370562#post370562 ordained takeaways for dinnerholy orders? ]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:26:16 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370561#post370561 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370561#post370561 Erowid – and there are none. I really would have expected that some crazy psychonaut would have necked a whole bottle, but it appears not. ]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:12:30 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370560#post370560 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-i-tried-sativex-it-was-no-fun-at/?p=370560#post370560 Discussion from blog post.

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