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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Steve Braunias' Secret Diary of Auckland housing boom. I love his characterisation of John Key.</q></p><p>The comments seem to indicate that the readers didn't percieve it as satire <br /><em> *headdesk* </em></p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>I sort of like that &ndash; but it does screw me over &ndash; in a bunch of ways:</p><p>I worked overseas for 20 years and saved a lot for my retirement (and paid my taxes rigorously in both countries), when I bring that money back to NZ I don't particularly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 12:45:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>people can get round my proposed LVR restrictions by setting up a portfolio of shell companies</q></p><p>It might be simpler to require that beneficial owners be identified. I suspect that alone would collapse many of the problems. </p><p>It would probably involve punitive taxation of money moving to or from vehicles…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						My reason for banning LAQCs/LTCs/company ownership of property is only because if you don't, people can get round my proposed LVR restrictions by setting up a portfolio of shell companies each owning one property. It's not the vehicle themselves I have an issue with.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 07:54:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						<blockquote><p>2. Ban company ownership of residential property (so no more shell companies or LAQCs or any other entity other than a human or humans owning a property)</p></blockquote><p>I agree with a lot of your points but despite obvious abuses of the LTC (the new name for LAQC) regime does have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:11:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>I just want to go on record I grow increasingly of the opinion it is primarily a financial bubble not a population pressure issue.</p><p>While it is true (I assume) that Auckland needs to build 75000 extra homes to have the same kind of people per household as the rest…</q></p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>And this is the big grey area.</q></p><p>You could get a quick sense of it by inventing a measure like median house price to electronic card spending (the later is on Infoshare on StatsNZ).</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p>"Global recessions tend to begin when newly popular narratives reduce individuals’ motivation to spend money."- Robert Schiller</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/upshot/listen-carefully-for-signs-of-the-next-global-recession.html?_r=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/upshot/listen-carefully-for-signs-of-the-next-global-recession.html?_r=1</a></p><p>I would say that someone in the govt understands very well the impacts that house prices have on consumer spending. That is not to say that Auckland house prices are driving the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:32:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p>Good article about taxation policy and paying rent to toddlers in Australia. </p><p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/knight-game-of-homes/7369312" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/knight-game-of-homes/7369312</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:14:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						Steve Braunias' <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11631104" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Secret Diary of Auckland housing boom</a>. I love his characterisation of John Key.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>...and then there's chaps like this real estate agent tosser who don't help the equation...<br /><q>A real estate agent helping two pensioners sell their home has been sacked after buying the property for $530,000 and selling it less than four months later for $1.255 million &ndash; a profit of $725,000.…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:41:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p>I just want to go on record I grow increasingly of the opinion it is primarily a financial bubble not a population pressure issue.</p><p>While it is true (I assume) that Auckland needs to build 75000 extra homes to have the same kind of people per household as the rest…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>OK, I have thought this through at great length (the length of my shower just now), and here's my proposal.<br />1. Ban foreign ownership of residential property<br />2. Ban company ownership of residential property (so no more shell companies or LAQCs or any other entity other than a human or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:22:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>In the end, probably the only economically sane solution is policies designed to halt the upward price spiral without an actual downward correction, and some mild inflation combined with a wages policy that encourages actual wage growth. </q></p><p>I almost totally agree. I'd just say that earnings targeted should not be…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I wouldn't say I'm stoked about the thought of both of my parents needing to die before I can take full advantage of Auckland property prices. I want them to live forever.</p><p><q>No but the family home, an investment property or 2 and the bach on waiheke might.</q></p><p>You've got…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:05:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q> How are you going to keep people out of Auckland? Dawn raids? Internal passports?</q></p><p>Internal passports &ndash; if history's any guide, that's a slippery slope to starvation and cannibalism in the godforsaken hinterland:<br />[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_affair|"Many of the deportees were people in Moscow and Leningrad who had been unable to obtain an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:38:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Worik Stanton</title>
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						<p><q>National keep saying it's a supply issue. I say FUCK THAT, it's a demand issue, Auckland is full, nobody should be let in who isn't a citizen. After 10 years, and lots research and evidence then I'd be happy to reconsider.</q></p><p>It is patently a supply issue and a demand…</p>
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p><q>Deckchairs on the Titanic and all that.</q></p><p>The iceberg is 20 years away but it's going to be ugly.</p><p>Returns of 3% instead of historic 7-8% (NZ Superfund underfunded)<br />+ a generation reaching retirement with a mortgage, or worse, still renting<br />+ being told to work longer while opportunities for…</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						There's a book somewhere about how if you hold inflation under 4% for long enough, no one can afford houses any more. That it's true in every part of the world for every part of history. It has always been fixed by deliberate redistribution, or revolution and murder, or a…
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>This might be me in, say, seven years’ time. But I’m happy to argue against my own interest in this case.</q><br />Me too, I've owned in Morningside since '98. This time last week I was commenting on a GenY friend's FB post in which she was lamenting that she was…</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						The Hanover collapse was openly talked about by business journalists and insiders for six months before it was mentioned in the press here. If anyone had done so they would have been sued for all they were worth.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> In the case of Australia and NZ, it seems as equally as bad as it ever was. The general understanding was that the Australian banks were prudent, yet most people are unaware that the banks in Australia were bailed out by the Federal Reserve.</q></p><p>That's fascinating. I'm not so bothered…</p>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, most NZers are unaware that in the event of a financial collapse, deposit holders are the first to go under our law (there are no deposit guarantees). Savers foot the bill before shareholder. Wholesale funding has primed this bubble. Nobody in the mainstream media has addressed this.</p></blockquote><p>Count me…</p>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						To an extent. What struck me and we have had similar experiences in other cities we have done it is that these apartments are in places where there aren't necessarily hotels or backpackers, so quiet neighbourhoods. But you can head the roller suitcases in the halls and then there are…
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						Unfortunately the debt overhang from the pre-GFC period was never allowed to be resolved globally, particularly the purging of the financial sector. In the case of Australia and NZ, it seems as equally as bad as it ever was. The general understanding was that the Australian banks were prudent, yet…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Something like that, with ordinary account holders and (former) home owners bailing out the rich.</p><p>An alternative would look something like:<br />&ndash; nationalise and consolidate the failed banks<br />&ndash; raise emergency public funds with a one-shot tax on property worth over say $1mln<br />&ndash; offer home occupiers in negative equity…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>My current office building has an apartment hotel on the top floor.</p><p>Traditionally, a big difference between offices and residential was the former having a much higher stud to make room for services in the floor/ceiling, but with WiFi, that becomes less important.</p>
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				<title>Australopithecus</title>
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						OK, so if there is no political will to fix the bubble, what would a post burst plan look like?  House prices plunge 50%-80%, mortgagee sales, government bail-out of the NZ branches of the Aussie banks (under pressure from over the Tasman), or bail-in using NZ bank accounts to buy…
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>In the long-term, it may balance out. Hotels who lose custom to AirBnB may close and be converted to resident housing.</q><br />I think that's sort of what's going to happen in Chchch: the first flush developers will take a bath on their empty office buildings, and they'll be sold in…</p>
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				<title>Worik Stanton</title>
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						<p>Golly.  </p><p>This is a world wide problem.  Most western world major cities are in the same boat.</p><p>There are multiple causes and solutions, and many mentioned here.  My favourite solution is a decent social housing program with secure long term tenancy.  And regional development (I am *never* going back to…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>we’re planning on spending it all</q></p><p>I'd start to worry that they plan on cashing in early when they start gifting you Mt Everest expedition and base jumping holidays.</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>Yes of course. But just because other things also decrease the availability of housing available to locals doesn’t mean that AirBnB isn’t a problem.</p><p>City/regional planners, in considering zoning, or applications to construct hotels/backpackers/supermarkets/sports arenas, consider the allocation of land to different purposes. Those purposes include farming, industrial and commercial…</p>
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				<title>Maui Smith</title>
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						<p>Some products have more regulation than others.  Alcohol has more rules for supply and purchase than milk or butter.  </p><p>The rules around renting out housing seem to be based on an historic NZ model where renting was for students and young people in the few years between leaving school and…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>A fairly significant amount. I also read an interesting article the other day along those lines. </q><br /><a href="http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/12/barcelona-airbnb-tourism/421788/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/12/barcelona-airbnb-tourism/421788/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-spain-tourism-airbnb-idUSKCN0QV1LR20150826" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.reuters.com/article/us-spain-tourism-airbnb-idUSKCN0QV1LR20150826</a></p><p>I noticed the problem too, when in an Air BnB in Venice (right by the Biennale sites in 'old Venice') &ndash; tricky rubbish collection schedules in a town with no trucks was…</p>
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						<p>Doesn't a conventional hotel or backpackers (or indeed a supermarket, factory or sports arena) do exactly the same thing, in taking up acreage that isn't available for housing 'locals'?</p><p>(and at the margin, there is transfer between hotel and apartment block use &ndash; the Formule 1 on Wyndham St used…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>Another factor is that the children of Boomers are quite happy for it to perpetuate because who do you think benefits when their parents eventually pop their clogs?</q></p><p>Our kids have been tolds not to depend on it in their live's plans, we're planning on spending it all, anything that's…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>I heard that too, and snorted.<br />I have no idea whether the ratio of mortgage payments to incomes is higher now than it was when National got in, but even if it is (which I doubt), that's hardly the only indicator of affordability.<br />&ndash; The deposit required, as a percentage…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>Housing affordability in Auckland and right across the market is more affordable now than when National came to power....</p><p>according to Nick Smith...</p><p><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201798817" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/201798817</a></p><p>So be of good cheer folks...we're not fucked after all....</p>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						A fairly significant amount. I also read an interesting article the other day along those lines. We just happened to be staying a couple of nights in an Airbnb apartment in Bordeaux and it really struck a chord. That said we were clearly part of the problem.
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						<p>Reposting a pic placed by Dan Salmon in regard to deregulation, on the Uber thread.</p><p>I'm  just wondering how many Air BnBs (and similar) are listed in Auckland these days  &ndash; each one of those (or many at least) takes a family footprint out of the housing equation &ndash; apparently…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Smoke and mirrors…?</strong><br /><q>CGT</q><br />I still can’t see that without thinking <em>’Computer Generated Tax’.</em><br />Therefore ‘SFX’ would be <em>’Special For-Ex’</em> &ndash; Mr Key’s speciality…</p><p>I did see a nice new BMW the other day with the numberplate ‘GFC…’<br />how they must laugh, those Big-money Johnnies…</p>
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p>Isn't there already a CGT on homes other than the one you're occupying?<br />Edit: Holy shit, I guess not &ndash; except for the recent 2-year thing. That explains a lot..</p>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						I'm on the cusp of moving back to New Zealand after 8 years living overseas. Unfortunately for me with my new job that means Auckland. There are certainly advantages, it will make life easier for my foreign fiance, being what passes for a big city in NZ and we have…
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p><q>The only option is to stop prices rising and then let 10-20 years of inflation and wage growth to chip away at the affordability issue.</q></p><p>That seems like the way to go. Auckland prices could fall 50% and <em>still</em> be considered "unaffordable". There hasn't been a fall like that since…</p>
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				<title>Ian Pattison</title>
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						<p><q>counted as inflation, that woul</q></p><p>Either we blame the people who did the thing, or blame the system (or part of the system) they operate in. If you don't want to blame the people, the system needs fixing.</p><p>To my mind, this is just another example of how deregulation and…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I don´t think the country can afford to let the bubble burst.An economic disaster like the one in Spain just cannot be allowed to happen. We would have a civil war.</p><p>The only option is to stop prices rising and then let 10-20 years of inflation and wage growth to…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>So we are fucked, because the government won't do anything until the political cost of doing nothing is higher than the political cost of doing something, by which time the subsequent crash will be a economic disaster.</q></p><p>It seems the housing bubble is an ongoing game of chicken. Whoever's in…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Nowadays though I guess we have to think from the goveernments point of view. Having neglected to do anything about the housing ponzi/bubble, they have got a tiger by the tail. Everyone knows what is required. A ban on foreign buyers of existingg homes, a CGT, a government led crash…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Baby boomers planning on moving to a retirement property out of Auckland, for instance, are advantaged by Auckland prices being as high as possible.</q></p><p>This might be me in, say, seven years' time. But I'm happy to argue against my own interest in this case.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Don't banks protect share borrowing via margin calls?</q></p><p>Yes. The thing is that shares are generally easily liquidated the same day (at least the ones you can buy on margin). And when I checked last, you usually couldn't go buy than 60% of a margin.</p><p>So yes, you definitely can…</p>
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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						Don't banks protect share borrowing via margin calls?
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				<title>Chrys Berryman</title>
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						Safe and warm housing for all should be a right,not something that is left to the mercy of the market.My folks were poor, we lived in a State house until they saved a bit of a deposit to build, with the help of a low interest loan fixed for 25years…
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p><q>No but the family home, an investment property or 2 and the bach on waiheke might.</q></p><p>x 2 sets of baby boomer parents is some cases also</p>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p><q>ally not. A family home divided 2.4 ways isn’t going to save people close to retirement age who were never able</q></p><p>No but the family home, an investment property or 2 and the bach on waiheke might.</p><p>And they're certainly not going to vote for anything that will lower their…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The RB *is* expected to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Bank_of_New_Zealand" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">control inflation</a>, indeed, that’s it’s #1 job.</p><p>However the capital cost of housing isn’t counted in the inflation statistic, so providing house price inflation doesn’t “leak” into general inflation, they currently don’t care from an inflationary, as opposed to banking stability, point of view).</p><p>(House…</p>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Well maybe, but I am kinda reluctant to criticise people for wanting to leave wealth and/or opportunity behind for their children, just because they are (to be honest rationally) using an instrument which is <em>sooooo</em> much more effective than any other means at their disposal at creating that wealth/opportunity. The…
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p><q>Another factor is that the children of Boomers are quite happy for it to perpetuate</q></p><p>They're really not. A family home divided 2.4 ways isn't going to save people close to retirement age who were never able to buy on their own while working.</p>
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						<p><q> perhaps people didn’t have to disclose their intentions, as the money was secured against the house in question</q></p><p>You can still do that &ndash; if you have a flex mortgage, then the bank don't know what you're up to with the borrowed capital.</p><p>But it doesn't give you any extra…</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						<p><q>But it won’t happen while the Reserve Bank Governor is constrained to keeping Inflation within the 1-3% range and the only tool he has is the OCR</q></p><p>It is not actually the Reserve Banks job- it looks after banking stability (trying to ensure the banks won't crash in the event…</p>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						But it won't happen while the Reserve Bank Governor is constrained to keeping Inflation within the 1-3% range and the only tool he has is the OCR
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						Another factor is that the children of Boomers are quite happy for it to perpetuate because who do you think benefits when their parents eventually pop their clogs?
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>But as Ben has rightly noted voting for policies that reduce the value of your home seems silly. And all of those policies WILL reduce the paper value of our homes.</q><br />This is only factor if you are planning on moving out of Auckland, as if all prices across Auckland…</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p><q>It’s almost like we need a government that makes policy that is good for us, not merely popular.</q></p><p>Actual governance, not selfish (ab)use of power</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Which is part of the problem but not the whole problem because the data strongly suggest a lot of money is coming into NZ from overseas as well.</p><p>Hence as so many have already pointed out multiple solutions are needed. </p><p>But as Ben has rightly noted voting for policies that…</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						14.5% when I first took on a mortgage. The house of course only cost $156k.
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>we have had a taxation system that has for well over a decade now had a deeply entrenched bias towards property investment </q><br />Yes. It's ridiculous we don't tax capital gains just like other income. And it will take all the remedies we can throw at it &ndash; not any one…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>This property bubble won’t burst until interest rates go up.</q></p><p>Yes this &ndash; what's really scary is that there are people buying into this bubble who don't have any experience of paying 10% interest rates .... and don't have a plan for what they'll do when they come back</p>
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				<title>Hugh Wilson</title>
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						<p>Glenn &ndash; my limited understanding (as I was 12 at the time) was that many people had increased their mortgages and put the $ into shares, and were thus really caught out when the market crashed .. this in turn perpetuated the glum economic times </p><p>Certainly nowadays banks would be…</p>
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						<p><q> I don’t think so, have you ever tried borrowing money from the bank to buy shares like you can property?</q></p><p>Not quite true &ndash; funnily enough banks were more than happy to lend people vast sums of money to buy shares in the mid-80's</p><p>Now they are happy lending easy…</p>
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						<p><q>That would never happen!! No way would that get voted in by anyone who already owns a house.</q></p><p>Which of course is the problem because any action that genuinely seeks to fix the housing problem WILL result in a drop in current house prices.</p><p>But I own my house and…</p>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p><q> It came about from the accident of history that was the 1987 Crash which turned a lot of people off shares for life. </q></p><p>I don't think so, have you ever tried borrowing money from the bank to buy shares like you can property?</p><p>This property bubble won't burst until interest…</p>
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						<p><q> It came about from the accident of history that was the 1987 Crash which turned a lot of people off shares for life. </q></p><p>This. </p><p>And the later myriad of finance company collapses where hundreds of thousands of kiwis lost their life-savings to sharks like Hotchin. </p><p>But I think more particularly…</p>
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						<p><q> which just as the Reserve Bank is mandated to control general inflation, is expected to manage house prices: for instance to target a 1% annual drop for the next 10 years.</q></p><p>That would never happen!! No way would that get voted in by anyone who already owns a house. But…</p>
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						<p><q>No housing, no healthcare</q></p><p>No housing, nobody to clean the loos.</p>
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						More suggested actions from a <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/home-truths/news/article.cfm?c_id=1500914&amp;objectid=11629629" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">funds manager</a>.
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						<p><q>The Labour Party I love(d) and have voted for all my life are terrified of putting up any policy that might offend Auckland homeowners because it might make them unelectable.</q></p><p>This terrifies me.<br />I'm in the center-left and I watched the results of the last General Election with trepidation, and…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>And from the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&amp;objectid=11630063" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">provinces</a>,  Labour speaks to the assembled in Tauranga on their "housing crisis".</p><p>The inverted comments are the work of the reporter...</p><p><q>a kindy teacher at Welcome Bay's Earth Kids Childcare Centre, said she had put her name down at four real estate agencies, but so far had…</q></p>
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						<p><q>BTW, what is the answer cos I’m not quite smart enough to work it out. Is it a combo of capital gains tax, intensification, more land made available?</q></p><p>I'd start with setting up a body, inside or outside Treasury/RBNZ, which just as the Reserve Bank is mandated to control general…</p>
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						<p><q>A tax on housing will increase house prices, not decrease them</q></p><p>Explain then, how when the British made buying a house more expensive (by changing the tax treatment of mortgage interest) prices fell substantially and stayed relatively low for some years (until the tax change was forgotten): <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/personal-finance-how-the-house-market-lost-its-miras-touch-1148693.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/personal-finance-how-the-house-market-lost-its-miras-touch-1148693.html</a></p>
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						I'm sorry. <em>David Farrar</em> complaining that media didn't identify a person as being a partisan of a party? Pot, meet kettle.
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						<p><q>Oh and, BTW, what is the answer cos I'm not quite smart enough to work it out.</q></p><p>This is the trillion dollar question.</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						yes and you get the "Spirit Level" effect with the consequence of gated communities and fear,  private islands or emigration with your ill gotten gains to more accepting populations.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Oh and, BTW, what is the answer cos I’m not quite smart enough to work it out. Is it a combo of capital gains tax, intensification, more land made available? Or is there some other vital component required?</q></p><p>Given that various analyses of the problem are true to a greater…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>but yes he is distinctly uncomfortable with poor people.</q></p><p>Minorities often feel uncomfortable when outnumbered by the mainstream...</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Yes #notallboomers (somehow I qualify even though I always think of them as being the hippy generation rather than the punks) &ndash; I own my house free and clear, have owned it for 13 years now &ndash; but I'll be quite happy if we sell it for what we bought…
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>And I guess we have a PM at the moment who is physically and philosohically more comfortable with rich people from overseas than poor people in NZ.</q></p><p>I hadn't actually thought of that, but yes he is distinctly uncomfortable with poor people.</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						And I guess we have a PM at the moment who is physically and philosohically more comfortable with rich people from overseas than poor people in NZ.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Kiwis prefer property investment over productive economic investment (eg Kiwisaver).. a wholesale cultural change is necessary.</q></p><p>If it was only kiwis then the only real problem would be the Australian banks taking a billion dollars a year out of New Zealand and we could cope with that that, just.</p><p>But…</p>
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						<p><q>Or is there some other vital component required?</q></p><p>New Zealand is poor. That's a fact we can't/won't admit to ourselves. We have simply very little of value to contribute to the world and we as a country are poor.</p><p>The consequence of that is that people from countries that are…</p>
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				<title>Thomas Beagle</title>
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						<p>Allow me to be the first to #notallboomers</p><p>Like #notallmen it's both accurate and completely missing the point.</p>
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						<q>I always enjoy the attacks I get from boomers when I mention inter-generational theft on PA. What else could you call the support by mainly older home owners for the immoral housing policy of John Key's government? It has been 8 years watching a slow fiscal train wreck occur. 8…</q>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						Maybe we could take another look at an immigration policy that seems to be driven by recent residents and citizens importing their (often elderly) extended family just in time for universal non-means-tested superannuation and free healthcare? The 50,000 extra immigrants are definitely exacerbating the problem and a small percentage get…
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p>Some years ago this was seemed like an Auckland-only problem. I don't think that's the case any more. It's in all the major cities and spreading.</p><p>I don't think it's accurate to blame the current government or the previous one. Kiwis prefer property investment over productive economic investment (eg Kiwisaver)..…</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Oh and, BTW, what is the answer cos I'm not quite smart enough to work it out. Is it a combo of capital gains tax, intensification, more land made available? Or is there some other vital component required?
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						And vote for what change? The Labour Party I love(d) and have voted for all my life are terrified of putting up any policy that might offend Auckland homeowners because it might make them unelectable. The Capital Gains policy that they rushed to jettison before/after the last election, would suddenly…
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				<title>Nick Russell</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe it will motivate a generation to vote or revolt to get the change that is needed</q></p><p>Hmm.  That sounds suspiciously like waiting for the missing million.  Or Godot.  Either way, there's still no sign that the electorate is so upset about housing in Auckland that they would do anything…</p>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						<p><q>There has been a breakdown in trust that may take a generation to mend.</q></p><p>Maybe it will motivate a generation to vote or revolt to get the change that is needed</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>There has been a breakdown in trust that may take a generation to mend.</q></p><p>I think this might finally be starting to sink in, actually.</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						I always enjoy the attacks I get from boomers when I mention inter-generational theft on PA. What else could you call the support by mainly older home owners for the immoral housing policy of John Key's government? It has been 8 years watching a slow fiscal train wreck occur. 8…
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