Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: How long the leash on the Fourth Estate? https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240891#post240891 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240891#post240891 I thought that was the M25?

Plagiarise, plagiarise,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Only be sure always to call it please research.

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:58:26 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240874#post240874 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240874#post240874 tell us man...
That would be because the shape now forms the sigil odegra in the language of the Black Priesthood, and means 'Hail the Great Beast, Devourer of Worlds'.
I thought that was the M25?
The Circle Line looks like a bad seagull* drawing to me...

*Hmmm... Arch Economagical…

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:28:27 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240858#post240858 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240858#post240858 the weird new spur configuration thingy which makes my brain hurt to contemplate.

That would be because the shape now forms the sigil *odegra* in the language of the Black Priesthood, and means 'Hail the Great Beast, Devourer of Worlds'.

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:56:28 +1300 Tamsin6 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240832#post240832 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240832#post240832 You’re getting a bit het up about this, Tamsin. Calm down dear.

Hahahahahahahahahah.

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:25:24 +1300 Tamsin6 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240831#post240831 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240831#post240831 Piccadilly line is usually worse.

Dreadful. And the Northern line, usually lives down to the Misery line reputation. But Circle is just edging it recently since they did the weird new spur configuration thingy which makes my brain hurt to contemplate.

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:24:01 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240795#post240795 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240795#post240795 What, that the smiling assasin was too nice for politics? pull the other one.

Some wet llittle noob the formidable tag team of Clark and Cullen would rip to pieces without breaking a sweat? Yup...

]]> Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:00:34 +1300 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240758#post240758 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240758#post240758 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:27:15 +1300 nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240743#post240743 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240743#post240743 I’m getting too freaked out now about how tight the media and the Govt. are today in framing their P.O.V

Yes, I’ve pretty much stopped reading National’s cheerleading team in the ComPost (Vernon Small and Tracy Watkin) for precisely this.

The only difference between them and Farrar (as far as…

]]> Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:39:53 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240701#post240701 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240701#post240701 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpuhKwNgv8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKtmlN7ILsY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flizcv-NcOY&feature=related

]]> Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:39:03 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240686#post240686 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240686#post240686 in his capacity, as a private citizen

Puhleese. It was a staged media op, not a private chat. But it's all too late now anyway – the most crtiical part has played out already.

]]> Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:12:07 +1300 DexterX https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240681#post240681 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240681#post240681 Key in his capacity, as a private citizen, who is also the Prime Minister, has made a compliant with the Police on a matter, which he considers is a criminal breach of his privacy.

The Police in investigating the matter have executed a search warrant – after first waiting for…

]]> Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:55:11 +1300 Carol Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240652#post240652 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240652#post240652 although it was hardly comforting to hear him say in an interview when visting Australia in the late 90s that he felt that his own brand of satire had long been overtaken by events.
He also said that satire became officially redundant when Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:09:45 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240649#post240649 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240649#post240649 To wit: “…an estimated 20,000 Mittelbau-Dora forced laborers died: 9000 died from exhaustion and collapse, 350 were hanged (including 200 for sabotage), and the remainder died from disease or starvation (or were shot)”
Thanks for the reminder.
The visitor who is willing to spend extravagant sums is rarely disappointed. Micro…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:31:59 +1300 Kracklite https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240645#post240645 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240645#post240645 Good Omens . According to that reputable tome, the M25 is in the shape of a Tibetan sigil for a curse, due to the efforts of a certain demon who “not so much fell as vaguely sauntered downward"… so I’d condemn Clarkson… ]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:27:55 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240642#post240642 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240642#post240642 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:12:46 +1300 Kracklite https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240639#post240639 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240639#post240639 Von Braun’s level of nazi collaboration was about the same as that of the majority of Germans.

Um… I hope that’s very dark irony. To wit: “…an estimated 20,000 Mittelbau-Dora forced laborers died: 9000 died from exhaustion and collapse, 350 were hanged (including 200 for sabotage), and the remainder died…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:06:55 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240638#post240638 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240638#post240638 Has some sort of subtle humour in your post just gone over my head?

Yes. Spend the weekend trying to work it out.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:59:54 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240637#post240637 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240637#post240637 Historical ignorance and distortion on a large scale.

You're expecting historical accuracy from a three-panel comic? And from my two-line response on an internet forum?

Has some sort of subtle humour in your post just gone over my head?

Communism: when you want it done right first time.

That bit…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:43:48 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240634#post240634 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240634#post240634 http://xkcd.com/

Historical ignorance and distortion on a large scale.

– Von Braun’s level of nazi collaboration was about the same as that of the majority of Germans. They joined the army, helped in the war effort, ignored the fact there didn’t seem to be any Jewish people around any more.…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:26:35 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240628#post240628 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240628#post240628 My recall was that he, Key, was too untested for being leader, the same thing the Herald Farrar accuse Shearer of,
"I do think David Shearer would be a better choice for Labour Leader, albeit a more risky choice as Shearer has not proven himself in Parliament."
I'm getting too…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:31:58 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240627#post240627 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240627#post240627 I remember one or two people saying the same about Key

What, that the smiling assasin was too nice for politics? pull the other one.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:25:21 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240609#post240609 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240609#post240609 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:34:45 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240607#post240607 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240607#post240607 there's a starman, waiting...
Probably enough to note that the ones the dirty filthy commie Russkis built with the 'help' of their captured Nazi scientists didn't blow up.
Or get a Crowleyite magician to help...

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:17:16 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240606#post240606 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240606#post240606 I would go so far as to say it is designed that way, literally racism by another name.

I’m not so confortable going there, but when Carol Thatcher voiced an offensive racial slur off-air and declined to give a sufficiently strong public apology after it hit the media, the BBC…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:16:58 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240605#post240605 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240605#post240605 I guess you do have an interesting point

I think there's two different points:

1) that more or less anything can be funny if handled well enough. And enough time has passed.

2) That Clarkeson, Henry et al are all enormous attention-seeking twatcocks who are enabled by significant chunks of…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:12:52 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240603#post240603 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240603#post240603 Time for Space Launch System from XKCD, http://xkcd.com/

"That's a terrible lesson."

Probably enough to note that the ones the dirty filthy commie Russkis built with the 'help' of their captured Nazi scientists didn't blow up.

Communism: when you want it done right first time. :)

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:09:34 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240600#post240600 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240600#post240600 the Beeb's tolerance I would go so far as to say it is designed that way, literally racism by another name. ]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:59:26 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240599#post240599 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240599#post240599 Time for Space Launch System from XKCD, http://xkcd.com/
A small proportion of NZer's have German ancestry, we don't say much. Interesting headline in the Press yesterday that Brits are coming to save the rebuild.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:55:12 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240597#post240597 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240597#post240597 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:50:40 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240595#post240595 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240595#post240595 I don’t really find mock Nazi salutes and gags about the invasion of Poland terribly amusing. I’m dour and politically correct like that

Well, as Spinal Tap said, it's a fine line between clever and stupid. There are plenty of actually funny comedians* who have inadvertently found themselves the wrong…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:36:12 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240591#post240591 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240591#post240591 Weird because this guy Farrar gets headline advice op props (not opinion piece, national (sic) advice piece) way above many of his card carrying journalist peeps who probably wouldn't be allowed to write an article of this type let alone get it published.
And Key yeah, on that last point…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:15:20 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240589#post240589 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240589#post240589 See this is really just plain weird,

A little presumptuous of Mr. Farrar to be handing out shadow cabinet portfolios, anyway. :) Don Brash staging a leadership coup before he’s even become an MP – that’s plain weird. But, yeah, I think David’s right (that’s David F. not C., S.…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:02:46 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240588#post240588 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240588#post240588 See this is really just plain weird,
Headline; Shearer the right man
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10770349
?

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:56:53 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240586#post240586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240586#post240586 Y’know, a smiley doesn’t really negate tasteless imagery – just sayin’

Yes, Ian, I don’t claim to be any more a paragon of good taste than Mr. Clarkson (possibly significantly less so in some respects) but I’ve got limits he apparently doesn’t have. (Yeah, I don’t really find mock Nazi…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:49:07 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240581#post240581 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240581#post240581 You're soaking in it...*
Golly, I guess I need to CALM DOWN AND LEARN HOW TO TAKE A JOKE (tm) but that wasn’t only tasteless but your cheap shot missed the intended target by a wide margin. And the irony becomes that little bit more tasty, given the context. If…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:30:51 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240580#post240580 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240580#post240580 If you find Jeremy Clarkson so distasteful, try not to sound like him. M’kay?

I think Clarkson tries to be funny in a "by the way, my suitcase is full of TNT" kind of way.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:27:04 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240579#post240579 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240579#post240579 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:26:58 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240577#post240577 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240577#post240577 Golly, I guess I need to CALM DOWN AND LEARN HOW TO TAKE A JOKE (tm) but that wasn’t only tasteless but your cheap shot missed the intended target by a wide margin.

Really? The line about “rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic” has been part of political commentary…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:23:12 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240574#post240574 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240574#post240574 Well, 2012 is the centenary of the Titanic sinking. Just sayin’. Cameron’s lot do seem rather … reminiscent … of a certain set that we thought the events of the early 20th century had taken care of.

Yeah, a maritime disaster that killed over fifteen hundred people – including 84%…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:11:17 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240560#post240560 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240560#post240560 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:31:54 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240559#post240559 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240559#post240559 please, sir...
They have corrected it already! Spooky.
Damn, so that's why they didn't publish my comment...
Still, good to know they can react fast
– and that web-written truth is mutable...
But it is still in the print editions!
:- )

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:24:45 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240558#post240558 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240558#post240558 I am suspicious of his enablers

Are those the ones that hang out of his shorts when he's on the trike?

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:21:47 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240557#post240557 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240557#post240557 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:16:01 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240555#post240555 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240555#post240555 Charlie Brooker tweets:

The funniest thing about that was his responses to a couple of hilariously unself-aware meatheads who were desperately shouting 'goditsjustajokecantyouallcalmdown' to anyone and everyone.

"I know it was a joke, you spectacular fucking idiot."

"No, tell you what: fuck you twice instead."

Although this is probably the…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:14:15 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240554#post240554 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240554#post240554 They have corrected it already! Spooky.
...This year's award show in Wellington was attended by The Hobbit director Sir Peter Jackson and actors Stephen Fry and Orlando Bloom.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:12:00 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240553#post240553 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240553#post240553 has he tweeted about it yet?
What would he say? 'The reason women settle for those second-rate damehoods and don't clamour to be addressed as Sir is simply because they don't actually get off on it'?

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:08:44 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240552#post240552 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240552#post240552 Clarkson permanently locked into a Circle line carriage

Piccadilly line is usually worse.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:05:48 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240550#post240550 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240550#post240550 Cameron shows such a startling lack of judgement in choosing friends and colleagues that I just can't wait to see who he appoints as his special new adviser on getting us laydees to vote for him again.

You're getting a bit het up about this, Tamsin. Calm down dear.

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240549#post240549 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240549#post240549 No Garter, but socks need pulling up...
Not strictly on topic, but...
(...but that hasn't stopped me in the past)
and it does address the power of the press – I note in today's Press that Fairfax have taken it upon themselves to bestow a Knighthood on Stephen Fry!
WOW…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:52:27 +1300 Tamsin6 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240530#post240530 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240530#post240530 Hmmm – Clarkson permanently locked into a Circle line carriage....I could live with that.

Because that British public transport system that works idea? Never going to happen. No snow so far this year – looks like it will be metal theft that causes the most delays this Christmas. Also, in…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:49:01 +1300 Caleb D'Anvers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240529#post240529 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240529#post240529 Tamsin6: Which wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t for the fact he is bezzie mates with the PM. And the rest of that lot ... Cameron shows such a startling lack of judgement in choosing friends and colleagues that I just can’t wait to see who he appoints as… ]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:45:57 +1300 Caleb D'Anvers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240528#post240528 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240528#post240528 worked would be the ultimate rejoinder to his schtick. Sigh. If only. ]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:39:47 +1300 Tamsin6 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240527#post240527 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240527#post240527 He's a great example of a one-trick pony whose one trick was mildly amusing for a very short while, but went stale a decade or two ago. Now he's desperately trying to keep it relevant by making it more and more extreme, flipping mild amusement over into mild irritation and… ]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 04:12:20 +1300 Tamsin6 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240526#post240526 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240526#post240526 Make him commute every day from Northampton to East London at rush hour. Using London Midland and the Circle and District Lines. Then film the gibbering, tearful, incoherent results.

He already gibbers and raves about that stuff incoherently in practically every column he writes for the Sun. Usually, it leads…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:42:53 +1300 Caleb D'Anvers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240524#post240524 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240524#post240524 Better still, how about a 'special episode' where [Clarkson's] licence is revoked for a month? Now that would test his mettle.
Yes! Statically charge him with a Van der Graaf generator so that every time he tries to start a car, it shorts out the ignition! Make him commute every…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:20:45 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240523#post240523 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240523#post240523 I wouldn’t bitch so much about The Herald being a tabloid in all but format if it wasn’t, effectively, the only daily newspaper serving almost half the country’s population.

Anyone brave enough to resurrect the Auckland Star? Because Fairfax probably isn't. And newspapers are shutting down or consolidating the world…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:15:40 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240522#post240522 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240522#post240522 And if you’re buying the papers and watching the TV, then don’t complain about the content?

I wouldn't bitch so much about The Herald being a tabloid in all but format if it wasn't, effectively, the only daily newspaper serving almost half the country's population. The Daily Mail , __The…

]]> Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:01:45 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240521#post240521 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240521#post240521 Make of that what you will.

Not to put too fine a point on it, nothing that is of legitimate public interest or that reflects poorly on David Parker's character but says everything (and nothing flattering) about what passes for ethical and editorial judgement at the Herald on Sunday.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:54:58 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240511#post240511 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240511#post240511 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:56:17 +1300 TracyMac https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240495#post240495 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240495#post240495 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:38:13 +1300 Tom Semmens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240469#post240469 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240469#post240469 Brent Edwards on Checkpoint just claimed that Parker has pulled out of the Labour leadership race partially because the HoS has been snooping around asking questions about his private life.

Make of that what you will.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:51:25 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240448#post240448 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240448#post240448 Don’t think they should sack Clarkson btw. They should make him ride around on a little trike with his nuts hanging out of his shorts though

Better still, how about a 'special episode' where his licence is revoked for a month? Now that would test his mettle.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:09:34 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240446#post240446 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240446#post240446 Charlie Brooker tweets:

I hope the BBC don't sack Jeremy Clarkson. Imagine how much he'd go on about it. It'd be like hurling wanker fuel into a prick engine.

And:

Don't think they should sack Clarkson btw. They should make him ride around on a little trike with his nuts…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:46:40 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240445#post240445 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240445#post240445 Tweet from Ben Goldacre ]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:41:58 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240438#post240438 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240438#post240438 ‘… if you're not paying for it, you are the product …’

now that almost sums it all up …

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:59:05 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240432#post240432 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240432#post240432 Heh, don't talk to me about the use of the term "surfing" for interdooder watchin' or crowd flight gropin' ;-)
I like the saying, if you're not paying for it, you are the product.
Oh and some blame the leash (on topic!) for the increase in surfer numbers, http://www.surfline.com/surfing-a-to-z/surf-leashes-history_921/

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:43:57 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240429#post240429 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240429#post240429 Decimation or hang ten...
If you are in the water surfing,
you are the crowd.
True enough,
but what if you are
on the crowd,
crowd surfing?
Then you are
the horde board...

or in Clarkson's case
the whored bawd...

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:40:00 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240428#post240428 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240428#post240428 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:38:50 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240427#post240427 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240427#post240427 For me it's like surfers complaining about crowds. If you are in the water surfing, you are the crowd.

And if you're buying the papers and watching the TV, then don't complain about the content?

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:36:24 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240425#post240425 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240425#post240425 Clarkson is a waste of carbon isn't he?

He's a great example of a one-trick pony whose one trick was mildly amusing for a very short while, but went stale a decade or two ago. Now he's desperately trying to keep it relevant by making it more and more extreme,…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:34:44 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240420#post240420 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240420#post240420 For me (Clarkson rant) highlights the commentator, celebrity, journalist, broadcaster, publisher, subcontractor (heh), Government, relationship. They all feed off each other, they all need each other to survive.
For me it's like surfers complaining about crowds. If you are in the water surfing, you are the crowd.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:11:20 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240419#post240419 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240419#post240419 ...is there such a thing as praticide ?
Putting a cap in yo' ass?

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:07:22 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240417#post240417 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240417#post240417 great thinkers of our time...
C’mon Jezza, you’re aiming far too low!
Jeremy your tumbril is at the front door...
Clarkson is a waste of carbon isn't he?
...is there such a thing as praticide ?*

*nah, better withdraw that,
it makes me as bad as him,
and Laws, et…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:05:05 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240412#post240412 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240412#post240412 An estimated 2 million people are on strike in the UK. That's roughly one in thirty of the population.

C'mon Jezza, you're aiming far too low! Decimation, old chap, that's the only language they understand! Include their families!

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:47:35 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240410#post240410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240410#post240410 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10770116 ]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:36:25 +1300 Tom Semmens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240409#post240409 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240409#post240409 Palmer would simply never have done what Joyce and Key did, while they regarded themselves as entitled to do what they did.

I wouldn’t go and get to dewy eyed over Palmer. He was riding point for the bunch of traitorous bastards whose actions directly led to the New Zealand…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:31:17 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240405#post240405 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240405#post240405 Liberté! Egalité! Vulgaritay! ]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:20:37 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240394#post240394 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240394#post240394 so Craig, whats media, if there's a 'lamestream' what are we left with

is that hard enough?

and dont come back with palin ...

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:58:25 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240393#post240393 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240393#post240393 Brad must be his drunken name.

And here’s something else the lamestream media seem rather disinclined to do.

I got that wrong. Zac Guildford not ‘Brad’.

Apologies for the utterly unforgivable fact check fail.

(And that was done without the threat of legal action or a BSA ruling. Only as…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:53:35 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240389#post240389 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240389#post240389 Nailed it...
Brad must be his drunken name
Zac'ly!

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:43:47 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240387#post240387 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240387#post240387 little wonder that the Fourth Estate should ‘mirror’ this behaviour, and compromises its own integrity with ‘deals’ and partisan favours

Fourth Estate mutated into Fifth Column, much?

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:41:53 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240384#post240384 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240384#post240384 Finally, I’ll see your Sienna Miller and raise you one Brad Guildford

Brad must be his drunken name.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:34:34 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240383#post240383 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240383#post240383 As a TV spruiker was saying last week about a Brighter Future- Only if you choose it.

The Stuff website today:
Why I should be Labours leader or Hitlers bed linen sold-video

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:33:09 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240382#post240382 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240382#post240382 Forum for, um, the masses...
And I think what it showed up was the gap in what you might call constitutional awareness between Palmer on one hand and Joyce and Key on the other. Palmer would simply never have done what Joyce and Key did, while they regarded themselves as…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:26:53 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240381#post240381 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240381#post240381 can i post this up, it was during this ...

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/56111/key-stands-behind-comment-sp-more-likely-downgrade-labour-govt-national-says-received-com

you know the really funny thing about this is , neither of the hobbits, the fat mental looking one, or the fat stupid looking one, slater and farrer, chose to mention the pm dishonestly defaming a large overseas rating…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:26:37 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240379#post240379 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240379#post240379 ahh
can we talk media – whats media, blogs, newspapers, tv, whats media in 2011?
is twitter media, is any old missive media

regardless of the answer, (and i have a lot to say on that question lol) this was all during an election, and suspect as ...

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:17:57 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240378#post240378 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240378#post240378 bottomline, the media, up and down the country was operating under a police search warrant, days out from an election

we deserve better

And contrast the Granny's hardline "Democracy under attack" headline during the EFA blow-up, with its paper-tiger response to the Tea Tapes affair.

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:11:42 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240376#post240376 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240376#post240376 I think this is an entirely separate issue to the flood of celebrities on front pages in the past five years.

Perhaps, but anyone who really wants to keep arguing I'm completely out of line saying the media here are too often tabloids in all but format... well, we're just…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:09:20 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240373#post240373 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240373#post240373 bottomline, the media, up and down the country was operating under a police search warrant, days out from an election

we deserve better

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:03:06 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240372#post240372 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240372#post240372 if we're going to keep giving New Zealand media a "at least they're not as bad as the worse of the Oz/UK/US tabs" pass

I'm not giving any of them a pass. Merely noting degrees of fail.

The reason being that I don't think it would take all that much…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:02:45 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240367#post240367 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240367#post240367 If you had read the story from the journalist who made the tape, you would discover that she hadn’t given the details to Richardson and apologised profusely to Palmer.
He had replied that the ‘office of PM could withstand these storms in a teacup’ and not to worry.

Quite a…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:53:50 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240366#post240366 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240366#post240366 and dont call me darling

I will apologise for that – it was not only gratuitously, trollishly bitchy but totally insincere.

I will say this for the last time: If anyone objects to me calling local media "scum tabloids" there's an easy solution. They need to stop earning that label…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:51:04 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240360#post240360 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240360#post240360 So let me get this right Craig – and dont call me darling- you seem to have a timeline of poor Zac Guilfords humiliation at your fingertips. The cell he _was_ in ??

All the better to wax on the unfairness of it all. Have you ever heard off the…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:25:07 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240359#post240359 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240359#post240359 If it smells like tabloid bullshit, and tastes like taboid bullshit it probably is tabloid bullshit. And frankly, if we’re going to keep giving New Zealand media a “at least they’re not as bad as the worse of the Oz/UK/US tabs” pass, I can promise you this – the day… ]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:24:41 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240352#post240352 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240352#post240352 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:02:38 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240343#post240343 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240343#post240343 Brad Guilford- Sienna Miller – Yeah, I see the concurrency in that one. Some one needs a reality check about what private means.

Steve: Just so we have a right understanding, getting pissy with me is not wise unless you’re a huuuuuge fan of watersports. I will have another coffee…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:36:08 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240337#post240337 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240337#post240337 Brad Guilford- Sienna Miller – Yeah, I see the concurrency in that one. Some one needs a reality check about what private means. Running naked through a bar and the rest sort of does draw attention to yourself -a bit like a photo op gone wrong.

As for the brain…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:17:09 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240327#post240327 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240327#post240327 But if that’s what constitutes a gagging order in New Zealand, the media are damn lucky.

stopped most publishing. job done

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:34:16 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240325#post240325 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240325#post240325 You’re conveniently leaving out the part where he called in the police during an election campaign. Bit more serious than calling names.

And not on the level of the media harassment and intimidation Barbara Dreaver and David Robie have talked about on Media7. Seriously, you can argue that the Police…

]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:24:56 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240306#post240306 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240306#post240306 Stephen Joyce saying mean (and ridiculously hyperbolic) things about the Herald on Sunday is abso-fucking-loutely NOTHING like a gagging order or media blackout.

You're conveniently leaving out the part where he called in the police during an election campaign. Bit more serious than calling names.

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:46:09 +1300 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240209#post240209 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240209#post240209 The last Labour government's electoral finance law was a step in a dangerous direction, and it's vague murmurings of setting up government regulation of the media suggests it hasn't learned well...

But at the risk of finding myself on the pointy end of a "...let's not balance it up by…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:03:53 +1300 Morgan Nichol https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240208#post240208 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240208#post240208 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:02:18 +1300 PaulC https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240182#post240182 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240182#post240182 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:49:26 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240181#post240181 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240181#post240181 Comparing the HoS to the Screws of the World was offensively hyperbolic, but let’s not balance it up by equally stupidly comparing the Herald stable to journalists who are facing genuine, and incredibly serious intimidation in places like Fiji, Vanuatu and Papua.

To be fair, it wasn't just Joyce's nastiness.…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:44:07 +1300 merc https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240180#post240180 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240180#post240180 ...but what was going on was a dodgy collaboration between National and ACT and the media organisations...
http://pundit.co.nz/content/ive-just-been-internalising-a-really-complicated-situation-in-my-head
A counter-view.

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 13:41:17 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240174#post240174 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240174#post240174 Ranapia seems to forget that the accidentally recorded conversation of a Prime Minister was put in the public domain- but the PM was Geoffrey Palmer and the means ,not the HoS but Ruth Richardson in parliament.
It seems that the National party crossed that bridge a long time ago.
As…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:42:24 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240170#post240170 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240170#post240170 His experience afterwards was a fairly stark demonstration of what happens to anyone who gets in the road of the Murdoch papers.

Bloody hell.

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:48 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240164#post240164 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240164#post240164 Papers which, on many other fronts, richly deserve damn-near every comparison to Britain’s scum tabloids that come their way. Sorry, needs to be said.

Craig, they're really not in the same league. The NZH and SST may be laughably breathless, inaccurate and obsessed with all things shallow and sleb-oriented, but…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:30:32 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240159#post240159 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240159#post240159 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:12:00 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240158#post240158 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240158#post240158 I’ll also talk to Tim Pankhurst, the secretary of the Commonwealth Press Union’s Media Freedom Committee, who expressed concern at the National Party’s attack on the papers that – it’s worth remembering this – didn’t actually publish the contents of the so-called Teapot Tapes.

Papers which, on many other fronts,…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:11:57 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240155#post240155 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240155#post240155 There’s a world of difference between whistle-blowing and wilful invasion of privacy. I’ve also suggested to Myles Thomas of Save TVNZ7 about getting together a Royal Commission on public broadcasting and media concentration.

I’ll also talk to Tim Pankhurst, the secretary of the Commonwealth Press Union’s Media Freedom Committee, who…

]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:40:36 +1300 Craig Young https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240150#post240150 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240150#post240150 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:24:23 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240149#post240149 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-how-long-the-leash-on-the-fourth/?p=240149#post240149 Discussion from blog post.

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