Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Hip in the Square https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=200260#post200260 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=200260#post200260 disappointed at the changes

changes?

]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:24:46 +1300 Tamara https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=200233#post200233 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=200233#post200233 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:45:24 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199549#post199549 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199549#post199549 I'm looking for a 3D model of the city that can cope with complexity. And not for a Room that Echoes...

According to NZOnScreen, the video was directed by John Day. My inner geek wagers that the graphics were done on an Amiga 1000 or Atari ST.

]]> Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:54:42 +1300 Bruce Wurr https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199548#post199548 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199548#post199548 slightly late and the thread's possibly gone, but hell, Laneways was a delight, and far better for me in both comfort and noise quality than the BDO......I think I've definitely gone to my last one of those.

It had the quality and relaxedness of a summer series, only on a…

]]> Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:11:13 +1300 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199530#post199530 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199530#post199530 can I create a soundscape of the CBD i.e. something that tells me the noise will be X here if band/music/whatever plays at Y spot.

In theory, yes. If they can model hurricanes, they can definitely model sound behaviour in an urban environment.
The "theory" bit comes from environmental factors…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:37:19 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199528#post199528 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199528#post199528 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:03:32 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199527#post199527 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199527#post199527 I popped down and asked politely if they'd mind changing the music, but they must have identified me as the female enemy and refused.

Generally people are pretty good if you ask nicely.

Heh. That's right, but I suppose if a) they were having a woman = bad night, and…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:02:22 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199526#post199526 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199526#post199526 You could give these guys a call

Richard Simpson in particular has been talking about the potential of such modelling for some time.

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:50:11 +1300 Melanie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199525#post199525 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199525#post199525 And no-one thought to lend them another CD?
I popped down and asked politely if they'd mind changing the music, but they must have identified me as the female enemy and refused.

Generally people are pretty good if you ask nicely.

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:48:00 +1300 Jarno van der Linden https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199524#post199524 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199524#post199524 I'm looking for a 3D model of the city that can cope with complexity.
You could give these guys a call. There is a lot in common between how sound bounces around and how light bounces around.

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:34:23 +1300 Melanie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199521#post199521 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199521#post199521 We supposedly have a map on noise, but I don't think it works. Marshall Day has put one together for the square to project the noise impact from the proposed Big Screen.

I've been told Laneways was managed so that it was 85db at the perimeter of the square. According…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:18:53 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199520#post199520 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199520#post199520 I reckon there would have been a minimum of 200 apartment dwellers sharing in the joy.

And no-one thought to lend them another CD?

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:12:35 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199516#post199516 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199516#post199516 I'm looking for a 3D model of the city that can cope with complexity

Sounds like a working spatial plan :)

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:56:28 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199514#post199514 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199514#post199514 Wearing some pohutukawa council issued hat – Thanks Melanie – if you can please send me an email to christopherDOTdempsey@@@aucklandcouncil.GOVT.nz (I've munged it) and I'll pass you onto the people doing the research.

As far as noise goes – I suppose now is a good time to ask, given our…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:46:15 +1300 Melanie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199506#post199506 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199506#post199506 They were having a picnic. Myers Park makes a pretty good sound bowl – I reckon there would have been a minimum of 200 apartment dwellers sharing in the joy.

All credit to the council, after some sympathetic giggling (they could hear it over the phone), noise control was there…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:10:05 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199503#post199503 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199503#post199503 The movement for Father's Rights had the Crazy Frog CD on repeat outside my window. Loudly. Very loudly for two hours.

May one ask why your window? Was that "collateral damage"?

By the way, I sympathise, having been forced to call Noise Control a couple of times when neighbours at…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:48:31 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199500#post199500 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199500#post199500 the Crazy Frog CD on repeat

brick-worthy, agreed

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:41:27 +1300 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199494#post199494 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199494#post199494 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:21:57 +1300 Melanie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199490#post199490 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199490#post199490 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:38:32 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199487#post199487 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199487#post199487 Much like Council was not particularly responsible for development of building standards that lead to leaky homes that became Council's problem

I'm very unimpressed how Clark's government restructured the liable central entities out of existence. Along with the developers carefully closing down their project-specific companies right away and many of…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:26:23 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199482#post199482 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199482#post199482 ahhh – thanks Craig (I'm wearing my Council hat here – most fetching – it has a pohutukawa like thingy that jingle jangles from the crown). Indeed the Laneway festivals and such like add much to the city, and I support them.

I also support inner-city residents, so my main…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:53:31 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199481#post199481 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199481#post199481 Both hat-states agree Sacha :)

My problem is that the shoeboxes on Nelson/Hobson Sts a) were the product of a multi-factorial system that enabled such buildings to be built b) because of that – the causes require more explanation than can be safely done here in terms of length and…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:43:08 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199467#post199467 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199467#post199467 No Craig, I wasn't shrugging my shoulders.

Fuckity fuck, Christopher, of course you weren't. My apologies for not making it clear I was making a general comment not a personal slam on you or the Auckland Council or the Laneway Festival organisers. Even if events like this aren't my cup…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:36:08 +1300 Biobbs https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199465#post199465 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199465#post199465 What about this then? Take some Nico, add a dash of Marianne Faithful, a good dollop of PJ Harvey, and make something wonderful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWx8Ipz8y7s

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:17:01 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199458#post199458 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199458#post199458 One thing that's probably safe to say is that it will eventually be seen that not everyone involved did the same things or had the same motivations and interests.
Like I said at the time, they were practising their powers. If there were a real threat we would, mostly, all…

]]> Sun, 06 Feb 2011 01:55:51 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199457#post199457 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199457#post199457 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 01:43:37 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199448#post199448 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199448#post199448 And when the Auckland City Council effectively outlawed shoeboxes, at least one of the offending developers turned its attention to Wellington.

The challenge is where to draw the dividing line between cheap & cheerful, and cheap & nasty (which we've seen too much of in central Auckland and hopefully won't take hold…

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:40:13 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199442#post199442 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199442#post199442 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:45:51 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199440#post199440 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199440#post199440 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:23:53 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199439#post199439 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199439#post199439 Wearing my ponderous and delightfully crocheted elected representative hat ...

No Craig, I wasn't shrugging my shoulders. I was merely pointing out that I suspect a breakdown in communication. The second half of that sentence was orginally "I will investigate this and report back" but I thought it too impudent…

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:19:25 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199438#post199438 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199438#post199438 Whether or not the developers should be roundly beaten (like drums or with drums I'm not quite sure) for the shit sound insulation is irrelevant, the central city is not a quiet place to reside.

The Council is meant to regulate building standards and has planning tools like its District…

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:47:58 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199436#post199436 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199436#post199436 I suspect something may have gone wrong in the communication...

Well, duh... :) I know the best laid plans of mice and etc., but there comes a point where shrugging your shoulders and saying "shit happens" doesn't cut it.

I struggle to find sympathy for people who live in the…

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 19:01:55 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199435#post199435 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199435#post199435 Some videos from Monday, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7gGuuADa1U

Children’s Hour scaring the young folk.

Holy Fuck using the synchroniser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnQhHo4qIFE

Beach House doing ‘Norway’:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrySJowsiPE

And Foals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyIFGulaCz4

My criticism of the scheduling would be that it wore me down a bit in the middle. Wish I’d seen the finishing acts…

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:36:23 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199434#post199434 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199434#post199434 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:25:30 +1300 Simon Grigg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199433#post199433 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199433#post199433 Oh wow.
Colbert does Bill

]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:15:38 +1300 Christopher Dempsey https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199432#post199432 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199432#post199432 know about… ]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:07:13 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199295#post199295 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199295#post199295 some words of wisdom from Bill

Oh wow.

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:02:12 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199291#post199291 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199291#post199291 Thanks for the Tuhoe trial update Russell. I still find this a very curious and slightly disturbing case but hopefully, once it gets under way, we'll see where it's all headed.

I been thinking about the case(s) a lot this week, but I can't see it'll be possible to write…

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:50:16 +1300 Simon Grigg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199285#post199285 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199285#post199285 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:04:58 +1300 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199281#post199281 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199281#post199281 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:42:09 +1300 Luke Williamson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199276#post199276 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199276#post199276 Thanks for the Tuhoe trial update Russell. I still find this a very curious and slightly disturbing case but hopefully, once it gets under way, we'll see where it's all headed.
Highlight of my live music experiences recently was Three Houses Down who had 5000 people singing along to Bob…

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:14:02 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199271#post199271 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199271#post199271 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:00:46 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199270#post199270 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199270#post199270 (He JUST got all bitter about them on Twitter, Jack.)

Haha. Just read it. Well, isn’t it great how we have diversity in taste, and all that ;-)

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:58:43 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199269#post199269 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199269#post199269 Heh. Block your ears, Simon!

(He JUST got all bitter about them on Twitter, Jack.)

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:55:51 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199268#post199268 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199268#post199268 I’ve missed the Friday music threads. Can I drop something new?

This is a song that reminded me of a whole lot of things that make me wanna cry. But in a good way. Not video, but allows you to play it here without leaving page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdVeKLvuJis&feature=related

Laneways was great,…

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:54:08 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199264#post199264 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199264#post199264 Since this seems to be the random Friday thread, some words of wisdom from Bill:

He personifies aggressive ignorance.

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:41:09 +1300 Simon Grigg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199260#post199260 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199260#post199260 Since this seems to be the random Friday thread, some words of wisdom from Bill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHzhtARf8M

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:09:35 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199230#post199230 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199230#post199230 Suprised re your experience at the bar in Studio, I’ve run a few events there (easter weekender, foreign beggars/freestylers, mampi swift, b complex etc) and they have generally had at least 5 people on the bar + glassys, manager etc in the main room and been pretty damn fast.

Interesting.…

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:25:43 +1300 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199228#post199228 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199228#post199228 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:09:28 +1300 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199227#post199227 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199227#post199227 A little difficult to comprehend that locals didn't know about Laneway--a bit like ten acre lifestyle farmers complaining about agricultural smells.

The latest Yen magazine (I buy it for my daughter!) has a cover-mount CD of Laneway bands.

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:06:03 +1300 MikeE https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199226#post199226 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199226#post199226 Suprised re your experience at the bar in Studio, I've run a few events there (easter weekender, foreign beggars/freestylers, mampi swift, b complex etc) and they have generally had at least 5 people on the bar + glassys, manager etc in the main room and been pretty damn fast.

From…

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:32:32 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199225#post199225 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-hip-in-the-square/?p=199225#post199225 Discussion from blog post.

]]> Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:32:32 +1300