http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/07/florida-sheriff-spre.html

ROFLMAO. Could hardly get any more ridiculous. It's like getting someone to beat you up so you can feel punch-drunk.

They're gonna make excellent stocking stuffers this Xmas. Who's the coolest Uncle now, eh?

Jenkem experience report

Teh Wiki

Cops from Florida's Collier County have created a bit of a stir by declaring that local high school kids are getting high on fermented "fecal matter and urine", known as "Jenkem", or "Butthash"

teh linky

Another good one.

"Wearing a protective helmet causes head injuries"

People tend not to wear protective helmets unless they are doing something where there's an above average chance of…

"Eating ice cream causes drownings"

There is an extremely high correlation between days of high ice cream consumption and days of a high number of drownings :-).

And we are presuming it was even 'scientists' coming up with this research. It's a pretty wide term.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/6/story.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10474303

Are boys more likely to become aggressive from watching violent TV? Or does violent TV appeal more to aggressive boys?

I found it especially interesting that the same correlation was not found in girls who watched violent TV. The researchers were quick to…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204&objectid=10474241

As with almost every statistical link ever found in history, the proof of which causes which is not established. Does pot smoking increase your chances of being abuse? Or are girls who are abused more…

Check out our Let's talk about pot pages.

The UK Cake Epidemic has hit NZ.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4257211a11.html

"The cake had been supplied by someone who was not associated with St Andrew's." – The Cake Pusher

I don't think that's possible whilst they persist in bundling social liberalism with free market economics. It's a demographic thing. If they dropped the addiction to…

And considering the nats would like to see me in jail for consuming BZP we know where they stand. Filthy bloody tories!

It would be nice to think that having shed Newman et al, Act could be the classical liberal party it always should have been. I think there's a…

Also:

http://www.act.org.nz/prohibition_doesnt_work_why_baning_party_pills_is_a_bad_idea

If you remember in…

scary fucking conservatives on before then

Has the party actually changed or is it just that they were too far down the list to get elected? I know Rodney has changed quite a lot over the last couple of year, but are you really telling me that all the social…

Most likely he inhaled it from a soda bottle, which you can do one handed while driving. An once the hit comes on, you just have lose track of what you are doing long enough to hit something (like a bridge abutment).

I'm certain I heard it on National Radio,…

It's a bugger that Act MPs haven't been a bit more like you, Mike.

Have a look at their voting records (at least post 2005 election, there were some scary fucking conservatives on before then, i.e. Newman etc) on social issues such as prostitution law reform, BZP, terrorism suppression act,…

To be honest, I don't believe that NOS would have had any impact on his driving ability, as he wouldn't have been likely to have had nos while driving – and as mentioned, it is such a short term high that it wouldn't hav elasted long enough.

I call bullshit…

For instance, myself, ACT voter who supports legalising and regulating all substances, as I dont' think people should be treated as criminals for what they put into their own bodies.

It's a bugger that Act MPs haven't been a bit more like you, Mike.

You only have to look at labour, maori party, united future, jim anderton and the nats stance on criminalising users of BZP to see this.

a) not all liberals are left wing
b) you'd probably find as much people on either side of the spectrum who would support drug law reform, especially with cannabis (thought this would change with other substances as ignorance sets in "I heard that you get high on E…

Still, it did lead to some interest discussions last quiz last night, after overindulging in the local drug of choice (Emerson's Bookbinder). Something about the…

I don't understand why Ontario is given a different categorization from the rest of Canada. While enforcement is, ahem, patchy across Canada, I'm not aware of any such difference between Ontario and the other Provinces. If anything it…

The reality is a bit more complex, but check out the big, liberal island to the west of us.

I don't understand how pot could possibly be 34% THC.

It isn't, not by a long shot. As you suggest, it's probably not biologically possible.

The British Medical Journal published an article in 2005:

Overall, European cannabis potency averaged between 2 percent and 8 percent THC, authors wrote. By contrast,…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_wars

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/mg15721220.200 I just came across this again tonight, had forgotten about it.

Nice link Paula but I think you're not seeing the big picture. Take a look again, and see if you can spot what you missed:

21 February 1998
HEALTH officials in Geneva have suppressed the publication of a politically…

Was it euphemism or the sad truth?

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/mg15721220.200 I…

I mean, that would mean more than 1/3 of your pot was nothing but THC. And given that some of it has to be cellulose, some it has to be water, and that the sap must have other stuff in…

My memory of what kids could get in the 80s (when I was a kid) was that you needed a joint each to get a buzz on.

I came of age between buddha sticks and the good local sativa, so we started on what was euphemistically called "leaf and tips".…

My memory of what kids could get in the 80s (when I was a kid) was that you needed a joint each to get a buzz…

You'd only have to smoke (or otherwise consume)…

I just hope James Griffin's reading. There's the germ of an Outrageous Fortune storyline in that, for sure.

My god, I have a have a lot of Westie stories. Amd one liners:

"Have you seen Glen's mole?"
"What, has he got a new girlfriend?"

A real conversation.

And I'm not…

That story's quite weird. It's hard to tell but there's no reference to them having had any pot bar the six little seedlings they got caught with. In which case, they were hardly in a position to supply themselves, let alone their schoolmates.

Still, let's not let that stop the…

Did they come up faster?

The theory goes that that the bowl will absorb more of the MDMA and absorb it faster, leading to a more intense experience. Apparently, you pop the pill up your bum until you "hit the little shelf" which is where one deposits it. Those who…

Oh the humanity! Imagine knowing that some kids at your school had grown and smoked "the leaf".

That story's quite weird. It's hard to tell but there's no reference to them having had any pot bar the six little seedlings they got caught with. In which case, they were hardly…

Paul what's the prob being married to a Kennedy

_

I think what the original poster meant "what's wrong with that picture" so to speak, is that Arnold is not a Democrat – he's a Republican and the Kennedy family are famously Democrats.

Please note that the NOS in cars is not suitable for human consumption, it contains additives that make it very dangerous. It is also explosive in the wrong circumstances.

Actually, The Lab, the NOS "lounge" in Christchurch, sources its gas by virtue of a drag racing licence (and then sells…

Oh the humanity! Imagine knowing that some kids at your school had grown and smoked "the leaf".

After reading the rest of this thread, I can only hope they'd *cough* ingested it in the traditional matter. Though, come to think of it, a body cavity full of dope would explain…

I suspect Anderton may have been referring to that young guy who Darwined himself by taking NOS whilst driving in Nelson a couple of years back. He hit the Bridge St bridge, the car flipped and he drowned in the Maitai.,

One wonders how in the hell someone manages to…

Obligatory public health warning:

Please note that the NOS in cars is not suitable for human consumption, it contains additives that make it very dangerous. It is also explosive in the wrong circumstances

You're just saying that so you can keep all the good stuff for yerself, eh MikeE? I'm off…

Please note that the NOS in cars is not suitable for human consumption, it contains additives that make it very dangerous. It is also explosive in the wrong circumstances.

People who can afford to use NOS in their car…

One job that amphetamines have been conclusively proven to be a poor idea for is warfare.

Bback when I studied industrial psychology, I read an article about some research during WW2 where they gave amphetamines to radar operators. Probably unsurprisingly, it enhanced their concentration and alertness.

On the shelving (also…

Next thing you know high school kids will be experimenting with drinking alcohol when the teachers aren't looking, or smoking cigarettes on the tennis courts.

And selling the sex to the myspace predators to buy the alcohol to bake their cakes with! Won't someone please think of the children?

Mr O'Shea said the group had been "tight" and he was satisfied that the drugs had not been distributed widely through the school community.

However, other students had been exposed to the drug by knowing it was being grown…

Either as a pilot

or as the leader of hordes of fascist troops

It would be the longest 30 seconds of my life if some kid actually was driving me whilst taking it.

I always wondered if he was just confusing another way of 'using NOS while driving' that is actually very…

Or on a mission. It's one of those mission it's best to think of before you get high.

Curious. I'd think dope would be a better drug for such dull work

. . . except you'd never get around to actually doing the painting. And then the munchies would set in. Unless you're anorexic.

Reminds me of Anderton's big fizzle when he was on the Nitrous Oxide crusade,…

Curious. I'd think dope would be a better drug for such dull work. But if you had a whole house to paint and only 2 days to do it, including nights, P would get it done. I'd rather…

Just as E is a gateway to back-cracking. And we all know what that leads to, a back-cracking addiction. Then you start pushing back-cracking. Next thing you know you're an acupuncturist, sticking your needles into small children. Then you wake up in…

Ha! Once, a friend of mine took some coke and finally had the motivation/energy to erect some flatpack shelves that had been sitting around for months.

So, coke is a gateway drug to shelving?

Oooh! This is possibly the best reason to take drugs of that I have ever heard.…

Ha! Once, a friend of mine took some coke and finally had the motivation/energy to erect some flatpack shelves that had been sitting around for months.

That reminds me of the 'Positive P Stories' phone-in the Back of the Y guys ran on bFM Drive once (they just took down…

Ha! Once, a friend of mine took some coke and finally had the motivation/energy to erect some flatpack shelves that had been sitting around for months.

I am willing to bet that approximately half of the IKEA furniture bought at the Houston superstore in any one year is assembled under…

Ha! Once, a friend of mine took some coke and finally had the motivation/energy to erect some flatpack shelves that had been sitting around for months.

So, coke is a gateway drug to shelving?

Hmm, let's see: So all I need is a bowl, some shelving (MDF should do it...or was that MDMA?) and a tampon, and I'm good to go.

Ha! Once, a friend of mine took some coke and finally had the motivation/energy to erect some flatpack shelves that had been sitting…

"Ecstasy goes into the spinal column and cracking the back releases it back into the bloodstream," [Shimabukuro] said.
Source: West Hawaii Today, Published in 2001

I knew there was a reason why I loved stretching. And there I was thinking it was just because it made me lightheaded and the…

The theory goes that that the bowl will absorb more of the MDMA

Hmm, let's see: So all I need is a bowl, some shelving (MDF should do it...or was that MDMA?) and a tampon, and I'm good to go.

I think I'll stick to single malt: who…

"A drug-specialist speaker since 1978, Shimabukuro has had lots of experience presenting reality to the masses. Recently, he spent 10 days in Australia and New Zealand, teaching police task forces there about the dangers of ice."

http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2005/06/25/news/news02.txt

I'm sure there will be something on erowid or other "enhanced" sites

Probably NSFW...

Shelving. Its a common practise amongst some people I know.

Heh. I love people and their wackiness. It doesn't matter how decadent you think you are for experimenting with something once – there's bound to be someone for whom that experience is totally normal! 'Of course I've had it in…

Did they come up faster?

Is it smooth on the come-down?

Did they come up faster?

They did. But not significantly so.

Shelving. Its a common practise amongst some people I know. Apparently its quite dangerous if its a capsule and not a pill, as the capsule will…

It certainly sounds like a more intense experience. It also solves the mystery of why bad E tastes like shit.

The theory goes that that the bowl will absorb more of the MDMA and absorb it faster, leading to a more intense experience. Apparently, you pop the pill up your bum until you "hit the little shelf" which is where one deposits it. Those who…

Did they come up faster?

"Ecstasy goes into the spinal column and cracking the back releases it back into the bloodstream," [Shimabukuro] said.

Untrue: http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=2969

Shimabukuro said it takes 20 – 40 seconds to feel the high when ecstasy is taken orally

Untrue: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects.shtml

"They can give themselves an enema," he said. "They put the…

Although the tampon thing is terribly bogus, I do know someone who inserted an E anally just to see if you came up faster.

I'm told it's true. Never been moved to try it myself.

Mr. Amess: To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action the Government propose in respect of the import of ... (c) "cake" to the United Kingdom.

Mr. Sackville: Neither…

That part's hilarious. As I understand it, "rolling" is American rave kid slang for the the squidgy, rushy, nice parts of an E experience.

Not just rave kids, either. 'X-ing' is so common by now that staid southerners in their 40s with pickup trucks and regular jobs also refer to…

"They can give themselves an enema," he said. "They put the liquid form on a tampon and the ecstasy goes directly into the bloodstream."

Ooooookay, we're well into Brass Eye territory now. "Cake, the new killer drug from Prague, affects the part of the brain known as Shatner's Bassoon..."

"...…

Yeah, man. You wanna score?

I'm happy with American Politics as a sedative, being an occasional sufferer from insomnia. Doesn't have the groggy hangover of other substances, although the bitter taste in the mouth lasts a while. But…

Not just american.

British equivalent is dropping.

I just fall asleep when people start talking about whether it'll be Barack or Clinton. I read the first 20 pages of Primary Colours and would…

Paul what's the prob being married to a Kennedy?

Dunno, but I'm glad I'm not one

Paul – that's all Catholic – oops I've said too much

mae culpa, mae culpa, mae maxima culpa

And perhaps adopt an attitude of "I'll take what I like (if anything), when…

Perhaps. Or maybe it's the tendency of pot to make your pleasures seem more excellent. If you find eating a pleasure, it makes it more so. If you don't, it won't make you eat.

and seems to piss off and embarrass the national republicans which can't be a bad thing

OTOH, to most of those folks I suspect being a Republican in California or New England means you're only a joint away from turning into a Satan-worshiping lesbian Commie anyway. :)

as a relatively recently ex-california resident I find him a bit bizarre – he's married to a Kennedy, spouts republican drivel, drives a Hummer, everyone I know thought he'd be a disaster and were quite embarrassed by the whole thing (but then I lived in…

I've taken to boring my friends with explanations of how I was wrong about Arnie after all. He's actually been good value as California Governor.

Well, folks tend to forget you don't get terribly far in California as a Republican running from the theo-con hard-right. If my memory serves Schwarzenegger…

"Ecstasy goes into the spinal column and cracking the back releases it back into the bloodstream," [Shimabukuro] said.
Source: West Hawaii Today, Published in 2001

Shimabukuro said it…

I'm still antidope in that – get out my house that stinks you hippy – kind of way & my uncles mental conditions is put down to his heavy pot use.

We have opium derivitives I don't see why pot tea…

While this debate…

if the challenges facing her include bulimia, using pot is quite probably a good thing.

A few years ago I read a news story where research had been done to see if the "munchies" effect of smoking pot could help people with eating disorders, but it didn't seem to have…

Arnold Schwarzenegger denies using drugs back in the day — on the basis that marijuana's not drugs, it's a leaf.

That's a great article. I think he's still smoking a bit of leaf based on some of the quotes.

You can hear him saying that though, just like he said…

Just speculating...

hey, he sounds alright – i sort of assumed arnie would be this unilateralist warmongering machinegun toting humvee driving cowboy governator. (although, how do you reconcile the kyoto protocol with driving a humvee?)

I've taken to boring my friends with explanations of how I was wrong about Arnie after all.…

He said: "What would you rather have? A politician taking the stuff and not saying, but making the best decisions and improving things? Or a politician who names the drugs he or she has taken but makes lousy decisions for the country?"

The Republican governor, renowned for his…

Because if you're an addict with an eating disorder – and perhaps even try not being tabloid fodder for a bit – hanging around with Kate Moss' manorexic junkie ex is the way to do it.

Good grief.

And her dad has revealed what tipped into hard drug use: marriage. Clearly, the authorities should look at banning that.

I'd be more inclined to section the people who didn't convince Winehouse that this is a really, really bad idea:

She recently announced that she will be collaborating with the…

Really, the Independent is panicking about pot ?

Yes, they've come over all what were we thinking?

Rosie Boycott in the Guardian too. Trouble is, they've been working off anecdotal claims by people with an interest.

The skunk hysteria is the weirdest part. They've convinced themselves that it's some unprecedented…

When we lived in London in the mid-90s, the Independent on Sunday was running a campaign to legalise marijuana. They printed an excellent recipe for Chocolate Hash Afghans. They were excellent...

marijuana's not drugs, it's a leaf

Cue Chris Morris quote: "People say alcohol's a drug. It's not: it;s a drink".

And her dad has revealed what tipped into hard drug use: marriage. Clearly, the authorities should look at banning that.

Hear hear!