have been obsessively hunting those Gremlins, Underdogs, and 'Tongues singles for a few years now.

As have I although I have most gaps filled now. But the bad news for we 'spotters is that what you could pick up for a dollar or two a year or three back are…

Simon Grigg has compiled a very interesting discography of iconic local record label Zodiac.

Oh wow, nice work Simon. Thanks so much!!! (have been obsessively hunting those Gremlins, Underdogs, and 'Tongues singles for a few years now..)

a) Simon Grigg has compiled a very interesting discography of iconic local record label Zodiac. Blog post about it is here.

b) Enzology, RNZ's epic…

but we only want to make money where we're adding significant value, and we're not trying to control anything or anybody.

Totally dude, adding value is 100% where its at in terms of digital music now surely and I am definitely in to alternatives to iTunes.

Good luck with your…

He has agreed to reassess when her idea is more concrete than just "I want a tattoo", not knowing what it will be.

Yeah, she'll probably get more traction if she has a reasonable idea of the design and size she wants (for one thing, size affects how long she…

Well that's just reading between the lines....

That'll do... Words, and then song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcMxTWx3_v0&feature=fvw

click clique clack
brick break back
top toff doff
ich spreche Flöte

Magic!
Illuminating...
Mozart and Schikaneder
saddle up for some brotherly love with homonyms

Well that's just reading between the lines....

?que

It's a secret. But if you work it out, I'd appreciate it if you let me know.

I do not see why copyright should be transferable. The rights should belong to the creator and to the creator's heirs, for a reasonable time. They should not be a commodity.

There's hundreds of instances of people writing songs and then selling them to someone else to do the performance.…

Don't worry about me. we've been having a crate day :p

http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-public-domain-characters.html

I think I now have the beginnings of a new take on The League of Extraordinary Gentleman (or Fictional characters) ... Moore's lore (and lawyers) willing...

and that explains why Cthulhu features in Matt Howarth's fabulous body of work...

LANEWAYS was great – drinks token things are lame as heck though. Practically everyone in our tour party ended up with left over tokens at the end of the night. If cash handling is the problem then why not just have mobile eftpos? Eftpos…

Only if it's flute :)

if they break the law, would that make them floutists...?
I can see the headlines now:
flaunting flautists flagrantly flout flawed folk law

Actually, please ignore all of the above posts, because I'm going to 'buy the rights' and sue there arses off and retire in the Bahamas. Any objections?

do they have to pay royalties to use the riff live?

Only if it's flute :)

On the 'sampling' front

I'm hearing echoes of this too – maybe it's just the guitar tuning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaHHrNQVrg

Kaching! Surely that is nowadays "Mickey Mouse© system" all users of Disney© characters must pay while they have their specially extended copyright period...

A little while ago, the Center for the Study of the Public Domain at Duke University had a list of works that would have entered the public…

[Edit: Zoe Bell as Octobriana & Joslyn James as Cinderalla – unknown golfer as the Prince ]

http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-public-domain-characters.html

Hope your friend gets some good ink!

Thanks Jack, I will pass it on but am pretty sure she has spoken with this guy and is hoping her sister will cancel in March.He has agreed to reassess when her idea is more concrete than just "I want a tattoo", not…

mickey mouse system

Kaching! Surely that is nowadays "Mickey Mouse© system" all users of Disney© characters must pay while they have their specially extended copyright period...

Popeye is public domain now though...

Does anyone know a great Tattooist in Dunedin? The only one my friend has found has a year long waiting list and seems slightly arrogant albeit with that much popularity, seems to have proven himself.

Not familiar with tattooists in Dunedin, sorry, but I can think of a couple of…

exploits a cultural reference in a song that's all about cultural references. No one can do that any more, unless they can pay.

Who owns shared culture? It's obscenes of privatisation like this one that offend me, but we need good IP to make creative enterprise profitable. The current mickey…

It is just that copyright exists to reward and protect creators.

And mostly copyright, even when transferred to a 3rd party as a commodity continues to do just that in the form of royalties.

So while I find myself loosely agreeing with you that this runs counter to the broad…

BTW I'm not justifying the Larrakin decision to sue – I could attempt to, but I'm not really prepared to fight a 100 page copyright flamewar. I'm just saying that the fact they weren't the creators doesn't trouble me.

I'm revolted by it, yet in general I'm untroubled by the…

I do not see why copyright should be transferable. The rights should belong to the creator and to the creator's heirs, for a reasonable time. They should not be a commodity.

And with one sweep, for better or worse, you've just wiped out entertainment industry as such....

Well Sofie – at least I'm not channeling Stella!
(tho' maybe...)

Nah, Stella had news today that her boyfriend is dying and she is having alone time in her basket.Another friend with cancer,so she wont have her barking partner for long. :(
Seeing as it's Friday....On a brighter note,
Does…

BTW I'm not justifying the Larrakin decision to sue -…

The company has since collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from from people who had assumed it was a folk…

As I understand it, Paul L, copyright is a property right and is so transferable. I can sell my property rights to whomsoever I choose. Or, bequeath them.

I am really astonished here, however, that a property right that…

But no, they bought the rights, that is all.

And they did so somewhat unusual circumstances, via the posthumous Public Trust tender.

It's a shame that the news media didn't notice and oblige them to promise not to abuse the rights they had acquired.

But mostly, it's the risible claim…

Maybe MaW should do a little sueing of their own...

It appears she was a hard road back to Hamilton on the southern motorway that night ...

Best you can say of the tino flag – it's *a*'Maori flag

T'other half just said exactly that. Are you channeling Islander? ;)

I like it's kowhaiwhai ancestry, is all.

But they appear to have agreed to refer to the flag as "The Maori Flag" — which does seem a bit weird given the number of major iwi who don't want a bar of it.

Oh…

Q: How many PA muso's does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: It's an obscure number, you've probably never heard of it.

Annointing a "Maori flag" without formally consulting major iwi just beggars belief.

Can I just say that when I heard people referring to the Tino Rangatiratanga flag as "Hone's flag", I didn't realise they meant it quite so literally?

He resigned from working as Brownlee's press secretary just before Christmas.

Must have been quite a relief.

I had a shirt like this in the 90s, it was my hang-over shirt. To be thrown in the corner so as not to agrivate my hangover in the morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-2u8BSRyE

So who's going to be the host when Agenda reappears on TV3 this year?
John Campbell?

Stephen Parker. He resigned from working as Brownlee's press secretary just before Christmas.

Will I be hauled through the streets and battered to death with tire jacks if I say that AC/DC are truly awful?

I used to like the song Dirty deeds, partly because it took me a long time to figure out the lyrics.

Then my wife pointed out that their…

Simon Dallow's professional and substantive interviews on the old Agenda were a very pleasant surprise

Totally. So who's going to be the host when Agenda reappears on TV3 this year?
John Campbell?

m/

Is that a goat-throw?

Damn right it is.

I'm surprised the BBC didn't demand a radio edit. They made Ray Davis change the lyrics of Lola to "we drank champagne it tasted like cherry cola" in order to remove a brand name.…

Dogs get revenge

For some inexplicable reason I am not upset........But I do have this overwhelming urge to pump my forearm down with a Petrie "YES!"

The major calamity was me getting stuck with four $6 drink tokens after the guest bar closed early.

I was left with $12, and most of my friends with between $10-$20, after abandoning the 45 minute queues. That would add up – across 5000 people – to a pretty nice…

Holmes is just the wrong interviewer for that show, always has been.

Simon Dallow's professional and substantive interviews on the old Agenda were a very pleasant surprise from somesone I'd written off as a pretty vacant autocue reader. His promotion to the prime time bulletin was a big step up…

Pardon me for being cynical, Russell, but I don't think there was any alternative, process or degree of 'consultation' that would have made it anything else.

Telling Hone Harawira to stay clear would have been a huge help in avoiding the CoI stuff, which is the real wtf thing for…

PAUL: And by the way, on the subject of colonialism, it hasn't been all bad, has it? I mean, if I may be flippant about it we now have refrigerators to put the crayfish in.

HONE Thank you…

It's not too far from Hone Harwira trying to intimidate officials into calling it "The Maori Flag" though.

While I'll never miss a chance to give Honey a kick in the slats, I've know a few folks who work for TPK over the years and they're not that easy to…

reduce anything Maari-related to a black-on-black cat fight when the realities are a lot more complicated

Paul fecking Holmes with Hone on Q+A was a classic – a torrent of aggressively ignorant racist claptrap, on Harawira's shoulders to deny without coming across as rude. His response to the crayfish line…

I thought Sam was starting to get a bit panicked at the end of their set…

And as I said at the time, I still think a lot of people in the media-political complex need to get their fucking heads around the idea that Maori aren't Te Borg on any subject, no more than quote unquote "Asians", "Christians", teh gayz or laydeeze are.

And NOBODY (least…

Well blow me down:

It's impressive incompetence tho'.

So to calculate the worth of their idea (as opposed to the implementation) you'd take the median revenue of any commercial attempt to implement virtual worlds?

That'd be a nice round figure.

That's what makes me think the whole thing is being driven by greed even if the basis of…

I ran into my old friend David Merritt in Cuba Street yesterday, and bought one of his hand-made books, geek prayers.

I had a similar run-in in January. I hadn't met David before (but have since discovered we have lots of quite disparate Facebook friends in common), but easily struck…

I spent a few weeks with TPK lookin' at which flags we should be considering, and that was a lesson in itself. We started with a whole heap of them, but because of intellectual property, ownership, and design issues, we had to cut back to just four…

The outrage that someone should dare to assume they have copyright over something they designed is quite bemusing, yes.

I think people have trouble with this because flags are perceived to represent some entity or ideal so it feels like someone is trying to assert copyright over what the flag…

I was going to say, it's all well and fine to assert copyright if it's actually all yours. Metiria Turei is convinced there's a reasonable explanation to be heard beyond the media, but also seems to believe there is only one designer.

Yeah — Metiria and I had words about…

re : te Maori flag

this is funny as all hell considering...

Don't be surprised if the flag that wins is the one that your kids and mine have been wearing for the past…

Worlds.Com suing MMO companies because they patented "virtual 3D worlds" first

So to calculate the worth of their idea (as opposed to the implementation) you'd take the median revenue of any commercial attempt to implement virtual worlds?

That'd be a nice round figure.

two of the three composers' families knew nothing about it

I was going to say, it's all well and fine to assert copyright if it's actually all yours. Metiria Turei is convinced there's a reasonable explanation to be heard beyond the media, but also seems to believe there is only…

It's just completely fucking incompetent

Oh, I don't disagree. I can completely understand how it could have happened – the tino rangatiratanga flag has been used so much the question probably didn't occur – but that doesn't excuse the fact that it should have occurred to someone.

The outrage that someone should dare to assume they have copyright over something they designed is quite bemusing, yes. Of course, you can have a good debate about the appropriateness of *exerting* copyright in this instance, but...

I think what you can say is that in an official act of…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf9lhev1qwA

Angus wasn't the only school uniform wearing member at one point. I assume Brian didn't come out similarly dressed last night?

While we're talking about copyright, I'm quite amused by all the talk in the media around 'applying for copyright' for the tino rangatiratanga flag.

I decided I wouldn't bring the party down by blogging about that shemozzle, but, bugger me, what a shambles.

I suspect some of my liberal friends…

If anyone needs any help 'applying' for copyright, I'm more than happy to help out for my usual fee of $500. Cash.

Talk in the media of "copyrighting" anything tends to get my blood up.

While we're talking about copyright, I'm quite amused by all the talk in the media around 'applying for copyright' for the tino rangatiratanga flag.

The outrage that someone should dare to assume they have copyright over something they designed is quite bemusing, yes. Of course, you can have a good…

They sounded good from Point Chevalier – and, I am told, Mt Albert, Kingsland and a number of other suburbs.

Yet we couldn't hear a thing only 500m away in Westmere. I had to get on my bike and ride up to Old Mill Road. It was nowhere as loud…

drunk all their rider by then huh :)

Ahem. Just the one. And I didn't come empty-handed ...

The major calamity was me getting stuck with four $6 drink tokens after the guest bar closed early.

cheers.

If anyone needs any help 'applying' for copyright, I'm more than happy to help out for my usual fee of $500. Cash.

I'm damned if I can see the point of musichy.pe

I've got a gut feeling on this one. It's looks as if they're trying to bring back greater demand for EPs. Back to what Flying Nun did best.

No-one sells concept albums any more since the maximum length of music…

I'd been blagged backstage to see my buddies, and the headliners didn't really make much sense to me from the side of the stage?

drunk all their rider by then huh :)

instead of bringing in that ear-gratingly awful Geordie to replace him.

That ain't singing. It's gargling!

Thanks for all the helpful advice. I am packing my bag ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ-45XG7n4k

So Spinal Tap "The Originals / The New Originals / The Thamesmen" era it hurts.

m/

Is that a goat-throw?

sued the ISP iiNet – and lost.

And established some precedent for ISPs not being liable for what is done over their networks, as I understand.

Much interest burbling, and possibly worthy of its own thread to avoid swamping others – though the title of this one might be appropriate.

what next VW wanting dosh for the Kombi reference...
and Kraft Corporation wanting their cut for the Vegemite namecheck?

I'd leave Hamilton first.

Sound advice

Will I be hauled through the streets and battered to death with tire jacks if I say that AC/DC are truly awful?

I doubt it, it's hardly a radical perspective.

I'm not a metal fan but I think ACDC were a bit of big dumb fun back in the Bon…

Greedy pricks. If it was up to me, I'd advise Men At Work to have a very good look at old Irish and Scottish folk tunes; there's a reasonable chance, IMO, that you'd find that riff.

'It's Choade My Dear'

That's quite a title.

I'd leave Hamilton first.

Heh. Don't know about being battered to death, fans are probably quite mellow than most, but back in the day I liked them a lot.

Will I be hauled through the streets and battered to death with tire jacks if I say that AC/DC are truly awful?

I'd leave Hamilton first.

Will I be hauled through the streets and battered to death with tire jacks if I say that AC/DC are truly awful?

Don't worry – I'll attempt a rescue. From a distance though.

This is an excellent demonstration of the crippling effects of aggressive copyright enforcement…

A sampling of both songs.

I'm buggered if I hear enough of a resemblance to warrant 60% of royalties being awarded

Damages have not yet been determined. Larrakin are making noises about 60% in the hope they'll scare the hell out of EMI and the other defendants and encourage them to settle for a reasonably…

The court heard that two of the four bars of Kookaburra were reproduced in Down Under's flute riff, which was added by band member Greg Ham after the song was composed. In an affidavit, Ham admitted adding the flute line to try to…

I don't think anyone would dispute that they're the same

They needed Auckland University's IP advisors on their side. I'm sure it was all inadvertent.

Certainly nothing in the order of, say, Springsteen ripping off the Kiss melody from I Was Made…

They sounded good from Point Chevalier – and, I am told, Mt Albert, Kingsland and a number of other suburbs.

Oh yes. Thunderstruck in minute detail, whether desired or not.

One iconic australian song sues another... I dont see any winners in Australia...