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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Because the Department of Inland Revenue taakes your money.</q></p><p>Which is exactly the spin we used to put on it, when I worked there.</p><p>Shit, did I say that out loud?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:57:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>Except that the “Taake” in Te Tari Taake is a transliteration, ..,</q></p><p>Because the Department of Inland Revenue taakes your money.</p><p>(Or should that be the Dept of Island Revenue, as <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-he-panui-media-take/?p=316319#post316297" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Russell</a> put it).</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:29:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I note that sprinkling words from one language into another is sometimes called macaronic…</q></p><p>Might have to check that on Wikipedia.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:46:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Show us your tithes!</strong><br /><q> Department of 'Island' (Inland) Revenue’s Māori title, Te Tari Taake.</q><br />Well, it is <em> <strong>your</strong> job to be fair,</em> too...</p><p>I understand Shane Jones is the head of 'Island Revenue' these days...<br />:-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:19:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p><q>Tāke (or Taake) also means “tax” – as in the Department of Island Revenue’s Māori title, Te Tari Taake.</q></p><p>Except that the "Taake" in Te Tari Taake is a transliteration, rather than a word that existed in Maori.  A perfectly good way for words to come into a language, of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:55:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>can it take a macron? (as it were)</q></p><p>I note that sprinkling words from one language into another is sometimes called macaronic...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:38:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>can it take a macron? (as it were)</q></p><p>Heh. That would open a right old can o’ worms, given the source of the show’s funding.</p><p>Tāke (or Taake) also means “tax” – as in the Department of Island Revenue’s Māori title, Te Tari Taake.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:09:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...since “media” is an English-only word. Media <em>Take. </em></q><br />can it take a macron?  (as it were)<br />...only if you are Young Turks it seems<br />and ya <a href="http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/document/28158/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-young-turk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wouldn't want that!</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:11:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Not to say a good berating isn’t satisfying sometimes, but I don’t think it’s necessarily any better journalism.</q></p><p>Sometimes it's appropriate to thump the desk, but not all the time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:09:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>May have to write ta-ke to get some folk reading it that way.<br />Or even tah-keh.</q></p><p>It sounds the same in Japanese, too:</p><p>メディア<a href="http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/jis/tty/dokanji?index=t&amp;ivalue=3e66&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">丈</a></p><p>Or:</p><p>メディア<a href="http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/jis/tty/dokanji?index=t&amp;ivalue=4439&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">長</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:08:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>May have to write ta-ke to get some folk reading it that way.<br />Or even tah-keh.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:27:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Yep, I'm a fan of the school of "let them hang them with their own rope". Interviewers don't have to indulge in Paxton-style rants to achieve very revealing insights. There is a difference between "let them talk" and the "soft soap" treatment.</p><p>Not to say a good berating isn't satisfying…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:09:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Well, that’s certainly a much more comfortable platform from which to lecture, but that’s not what our show is, or has ever been. We’ve always made a point of talking to media creators and decision-makers.</q></p><p>And frankly, you don’t have to be Andrew Bolt to find ABC’s Media Watch can…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:43:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><q><br />Is there a problem in that your media review is partly like travel journalism which as we know is mostly sponsored by the places visited. Im not saying its the fawning kind but if your format requires ‘guests’ where you then take their head off, they sure arent coming back…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:56:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p><q>We’ve always made a point of talking to media creators and decision-makers.</q></p><p>I note that Hiwi &amp; Pat Tauroa’s guide to marae protocol puts the word in a highly relevant context:<br /><q>The <em>taki</em> , the representative of Tane Mahuta, is placed before you, to invite you to come in peace, while…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:36:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Yeah, RB mentioned that when it was first announced the media show was moving to Māori.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:22:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Looking forward to the show. Are you brushing up Maori language, btw?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:31:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Interesting that your ‘Take’ involves face to face discussions with the journalists and is not like the ABCs Media Watch, which doesnt require their participation, and in my opinion is able to offer a much more critical review.</q></p><p>Well, that's certainly a much more comfortable platform from which to lecture,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:15:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Interesting that your  'Take' involves  face to face discussions with the journalists  and is not like the ABCs Media Watch, which doesnt require their participation, and in my opinion is able to  offer a much more critical review.</p><p>Is there a  problem in that your  media review is partly like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:01:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>Toi Titi</em></p><p>Toi Iti :-)</q></p><p>Worst typo ever. I'm operating somewhat over capacity at the moment.</p>
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				<title>Ewan Morris</title>
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						<p><q>Toi Titi</q></p><p>Toi Iti :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:36:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>I'm really pleased at the way your show has evolved with changing circumstances. However, the site has the show's <a href="http://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/media-take?from=carousel" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">description</a> as:</p><p><em>A media commentary show with Russell Brown and Toi Iti, who analyse the weekly news to determine a lack of balance, inaccuracies or lies plaguing the media world.</em></p><p>I'm…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>at issue, at issue...</strong><br /><q>Given the bilingual intent ...</q><br />... and the <a href="http://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&amp;phrase=&amp;proverb=&amp;loan=&amp;keywords=take&amp;search=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">various meanings of 'take'</a><br /><q>4. (noun) base, foot (of a hill, etc.). <br /><em>Tāpukea ngā <strong>take</strong> o ngā rākau ki te maniua, engari kia tūpato kei hutihutia ngā pakiaka</em>  /   Cover round the bases of the trees with manure but…</q></p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Given the bilingual intent, in practice, how will you <em>say</em> the title? the two co-hosts simultaneously using different pronunciations of “take”? or only use the te reo pronunciation?
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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