Have you got any theories about truck door art?

I think more likely, if the criminal element knows the cops carry pistols on routine patrol, the crims will pack SMG's in response.

I suspect you'll find that a lot of criminally inclined individuals, particularly those involved in drugs, tend to be fairly heavily armed already anyway. Although, mostly they…

Sounded like a ghastly cacophony of cowbells to me.

Pff, there was a brass band at the Crusaders game. Srsly, wtf?

Sounded like a ghastly cacophony of cowbells to me. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Well, I guess you had to be there. It was genial and good natured in the Perry Stand and the final score was a bonus. It might have been even more if Brendon Leonard had…

Hey, I know the Copyright Must Change thread has had its problems, but that's perhaps slightly too harsh.

I don't see how you can get those two mixed up.

The copyright threat is interminable.

Possibly, The abortion one although can't remember it's name.

Hey, I know the Copyright Must Change thread has had its problems, but that's perhaps slightly too harsh.

A great crowd too, with the Waikato Stadium booked out by Wednesday.

Really?

Sounded like a ghastly cacophony of cowbells to me. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

BTW, what's this "thread that won't die" that everyone's whispering about?

Boag delivered the "you've already been consulted by…

It was great to see current/potential AB vs AB. A great crowd too, with the Waikato Stadium booked out by Wednesday.

Harrumph. I'm glad I didn't waste my evening watching all of the Blues' game.

Just had an 6 minute on-air chat with Gary from Radio ZB Newstalk about blogs…

Just…

Warning reading back up this thread, could cause uncomfortable and unwanted images of Grant Dexter, dressed in only his socks, sandals, walk shorts, and neck tie.

singing "Onwards Christian soldiers"....

Oh, but Gareth wasn't half as nasty.

I wonder if Grant is familiar with this exchange from The Office:

Tim: And what happens, you're going into battle situation, right, you are up the front, with your men, or are you coming up the rear?

Grant: Well, depends...

Dawn: So it's…

And a great review Here

Its funny because its true — but, seriously, motion sickness is not what I go to the movies for. :)

'Star Trek' enormous fun, although someone should tell folks that a crash cut and whip pan every 1/12 of a second is a hacky way of faking energy in a scene.

And a great review Here
Now, what was I going to say to Grant? Oh, that's right.…

Chris #397 05:50 pm May 08 2009

There will be a lot of should haves and could haves people. Armchair critics are sooooo lame. The people out there are doing the best they can. It is absolutely as bad as it…

Sofie:

I agree — tacky as fresh paint.

I think all the photo ops stink. I would rather they stuck to Parliament TV or just got on with doing their friggin job. As an aside, I am glad the dog is fine.They have no choice as to the position they have…

I agree — tacky as fresh paint. OTOH, I do Annette King will be taking a double tall fuckupachino on the subject.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/assault-and-homicide/news/article.cfm?c_id=124&objectid=10489544

Hee! Keyboard vigilantism is just about my favourite thing on the tubes.

Well, I take your point but its still fucking obscene: Very easy to be brave and/or careless with others lives, especially when you won't ever have to wear the consequences.

Hee! Keyboard vigilantism is just about my favourite thing on the tubes.

Mouthing off on the Net keeps some people from making far more tangible damage out there in the street, yes.

From there it would take a matter of seconds to launch a completely successful incapacitation and rescue.

Hee! Keyboard vigilantism is just about my favourite thing on the tubes.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to have this over and done with in the first hour instead of making a long weekend out of it?

Well, Grant, perhaps it would be a little easier being a Police officer in an incredibly shitty situation if you didn't have every dumb…

When is someone going to shoot the criminal so Napier and New Zealand can get back to life?

Well, as I've pretty much ignored the media today my life didn't go anywhere.

Now, to jack the thread back — 'Star Trek' enormous fun, although someone should tell folks that a…

Grant-you know nothing of the outlay of the street and area where this is going on.

I don't? I know it's a house in a residential area which leads me to believe that officers should be able to use other buildings to get next door on either side. From there it…

It's not 'people', it's just Grant.

'People? I ain't people!' – Lina Lamont

(I don't need much of an excuse to quote lines from Singin' in the Rain .)

S'ok. My wives are tough.

I'll shout you all a nice warm cuppa afterwards, how's that?

Can I borrow your lawn, Emma?

I feel I should in good conscience mention that it is currently sleeting. But sure.

having public sex with your dozen spouses.

That sounds like much more fun than what I had planned.

Like Mark, I have learned the ways of the tosspot on a certain other thread.

I suggest wandering off and doing something you know would annoy them. Like having public sex with your dozen spouses.

Err, not everybody. And this is happening in the better part of town.

I believe that the atom bomb comment was sarcasm, in response to Grant's "just shoot the bastard, you PC pussies" approach to the situation.

Cause a bit of collateral damage but they're all dope-smoking gang trash in those bush towns anyway.

Err, not everybody. And this is happening in the better part of town.

So far the 'Voice of Reason' is not you Grant -this whole 'fallen comrades' stuff is more out of the war comics we used to see when I was a kid

Oh, so if someone has written about heroic actions then those actions are automatically useless? Did you have a…

Who's with me? Who would rather have seen Senior Constable Snee given every chance at immediate medical care with the criminal incapacitated rather than the current situation?

It's not 'people', it's just Grant. He pops in occassionally when he's got something reactionary to say about abortion or crime and punishment and whatnot.

And you've given him the attention he craves.

Nothing to see here. Move on.

(I appear to have learned something from the Thread That Just…

The only investigation? We don't need to know the reasons why a person went off the rails and ended up holed up in a house with guns and explosives surrounded by police, then?

That would be nice to know, but it's not going to do much to stop it happening…

And furthermore, what if Self-Styled Rambo was/is holding hostages? Shoot first, think later à la Demolition Man just doesn't cut it.

Dude, deal with the situation. It's one guy in a house with no hostages and a cop lying in the driveway.

If this situation can lead to days of…

The only investigation that needs to be done is into the hearts of men who would decide to leave a shot man lying in the driveway for a day.

The only investigation? We don't need to know the reasons why a person went off the rails and ended up holed…

Regardless of his condition you do not leave fallen comrades. You do all you can for them and hope for the best!

They're police, not soldiers. Which is a good thing.

Apart from what others have said, I can think of a couple other things:
– there may be someone…

The only investigation that needs to be done is into the hearts of men who would decide to leave a shot man lying in the driveway for a day.

Even allowing for a certain theatricality, that's an absurd statement.

What you're saying is that you'd rather allege cowardice on behalf…

BTW at the end of this there just has to be an investigation as to how someone without a firearms license end up with so much weaponry

Army surplus, I suspect, given the "self-styled Rambo"'s background in the Territorials.

From the Granny:

Molenaar's brother told TVNZ's Close Up last night that…

BTW at the end of this there just has to be an investigation as to how someone without a firearms license end up with so much weaponry

Yeah, and we need to licence crowbars as well and then launch investigations everytime someone without a license uses one to break into…

__"The fact we have got an officer we cannot get out from the situation, we cannot confirm finally that the man is dead is deeply distressing.

"He is in a position where we can say with reasonable certainty that he must be dead,…

That's a particular horror which had slipped my mind. I suppose the overriding concern has to be nobody else getting killed, though.

It's one of the unsettling elements of rational policing — a slain cop lies there for as long as it takes. The implication has been that they tried…

Have they retrieved the body from the driveway yet? Or are they just going to leave the guy there till Sunday?

That's a particular horror which had slipped my mind. I suppose the overriding concern has to be nobody else getting killed, though.

But who was that demented-looking stand-up comic on the Crunchie Comedy show on Wednesday night TV--the fellow who spun the wild and disturbing story about placing a kitten in a hollowed-out loaf of bread because it would "surely scare the mouse"!

Geoff, 'twas Mark Watson, I believe.

When is someone going to shoot the criminal so Napier and New Zealand can get back to life?

I reckon an atom bomb a few hundred metres from his house would take him out nicely. Cause a bit of collateral damage but they're all dope-smoking gang trash in those bush…

I hear they might have tried gas. That's a start. But, let's be reasonable, it's one Rambo-wannabe in a house verses 100 people trained to deal with hostiles. If you can shoot 3 pirates on the high sea…

When is someone going to shoot the criminal so Napier and New Zealand can get back to life?

Surely if it was that easy they would have done it by now? Or you could always book a flight back in your capacity as emergency commonsense advisor...

Sorry. Thread-jacking.

I don't think O'Rourke has been good for decades

I agree. But who was that demented-looking stand-up comic on the Crunchie Comedy show on Wednesday night TV--the fellow who spun the wild and disturbing story about placing a kitten in a hollowed-out loaf of bread because it would "surely scare…

I hadn't seen the Nat Film Unit flick but I remember the series – esp. that Bastille Day test. It was an epic.

Re the National Film Unit nostalgia flick.

Can’t help but notice how white everyone looks

And skinny!

Can’t help but notice how white everyone looks

I just make a point of de-following anyone who sends me more than a couple of tweets along the lines of "I'm off to the shops now" or "mmm, that was a great meal"

Funnily enough, that's more what I'm there for: keeping in contact with what friends are up…

I just make a point of de-following anyone who sends me more than a couple of tweets along the lines of "I'm off to the shops now" or "mmm, that was a great meal."

I think that's the key to it.

And what will you do once they've hardened up? I should think they'd need a jolly good rubbing down.

Learned lessons well have you, my young padiwan-learners. Now, after a hard day of pseudo-writing must away to an early screening of Star Trek. Keep up the bad work.

I'm finding the whole Twitter thing fascinating, as a new user. I'm not sure it's all good, but it's not all bad either.

Same..it plays to my information junkie impulses. If you fine tune it, it's an incredible flow of data and links. I just make a point of de-following…

It was a very good Media 7 last night but I did harbour a hope that there might be a lovely botulism bug lurking in the food that P. J. O'Rourke's CIS audience was scoffing.

Heh. Whilst acknowledging his influence on the use of humour in political commentary, I don't…

Rucking > Trucking

"I like rucking, I like rucking, I like rucking and I like to ruck...."

It's not so terrible once you get used to it.

Twitter, rucking or Tchaikofsky ?

And what will you do once they've hardened up? I should think they'd need a jolly good rubbing down.

I get the terrible feeling we're taking 'thread-jack' a bit literally.

You can see why I'm not built for microblogging.

I just can't think of Twitter as "microblogging": I see it more as a slow chatroom with permeable walls. Much more about conversation than publication.

can I hit them with a stick until they harden up?

And what will you do once they've hardened up? I should think they'd need a jolly good rubbing down.

They might — can I hit them with a stick until they harden up?

Now THAT'S homoerotic =P

But the many contests for the ball — all in slow-motion, all set to Tchaikovsky — are absorbing to watch. And the rucking! Grown men might weep.

They might — can I hit them with a stick until they harden up?

I don't know that rugby needs to be recut to make it homoerotic...

Ha, Lucy, you read my mind. Sorry about that.

The Nutcracker?

Earliest rofflenui ever!

I don't know that rugby needs to be recut to make it homoerotic...

Magic.

As an interesting addition to that, apparently Peter Wells recut this Scoreand transformed it into a homo-erotic film.

I don't know that rugby needs to be recut to make it homoerotic...

Not to threadjack but Paul Brislen has just twittered that Vodaphone has signed an agreement with Twitter that will let you tweet from any phone, not just smartphones.

Man, you totally hijacked the thread – this was about rugby, in slow motion, to tchaikovsky!

As an interesting addition to that,…

I'm finding the whole Twitter thing fascinating, as a new user. I'm not sure it's all good, but it's not all bad either.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8035000/8035593.stm

But the many contests for the ball — all in slow-motion, all set to Tchaikovsky — are absorbing to watch. And the rucking! Grown men might weep.

The Nutcracker?