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						<blockquote><p>ie the attorney gave the judge a suitcase full of cash.</p></blockquote><p>Oops, forgot to preview. Shoulda been:</p><p>ie <strong>not because</strong> the attorney gave the judge a briefcase full of cash. Which he didn't, because that would be bribery/perverting the course of justice.<br /></legal></p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Don King</em></p><p>Who?</p></blockquote><p>Don King is/was a boxing promoter. His <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_King_(boxing_promoter)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wiki</a> entry is worth a squizz.</p><blockquote><p>King was convicted of second degree murder for the second killing after he was found guilty of beating to death an employee who owed him $600. In an ex parte meeting with King's attorney, the…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:16:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Campbell did cut them off rather a lot.</p></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, it didn't result in enough cutting for an iron-rich meal best served with some fava beans and a nice chianti.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Don King<br />Who?</p></blockquote><p>Donuts.</p><p>300m Euro will buy you 39.1 per cent of APN.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:40:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Campbell did cut them off rather a lot.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:55:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Don King</p></blockquote><p>Who?</p><blockquote><p>The fix may be in</p></blockquote><p>What fix?</p><blockquote><p>Having criticised Sainsbury for failing to moderate the first debate it's only fair to criticise Campbell for over-moderating.</p></blockquote><p>Don't think so, John.  Look, if Helen Clark wants to say "it's all about trust" while John Key spits back "choose a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:52:59 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I hear you John, but I’d have thought she’d have tried that last night.</p><p>Instead she channelled John Key channelling Peter Dunne.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:45:05 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>What makes you think tomorrow night’s debate will be any less stale and choreographed than the rest of them?</blockquote>Because I think that although Clarke has seen the polls she's not going to let Don King determine the outcome of this title fight. The fix may be in, but she doesn't…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:35:37 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>What makes you think tomorrow night’s debate will be any less stale and choreographed than the rest of them?</p><p>That’s the problem with the 2 main parties falling over themselves to capture the middle ground.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:19:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						"Wednesday debate on ONE" &ndash; oops. Thanks for correcting my sense of what day it was, John.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:13:04 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I'm not having any problem watching the vids, other than wondering WTF was that one was for Craig  : )</p><p>Debate:</p><p>Having criticised Sainsbury for failing to moderate the first debate it's only fair to criticise Campbell for over-moderating. Just because <em>he's</em> heard the answers a 100 times already doesn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:49:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I reckon that Key ignoring Clark's attempts to try it on worked better for him. Mind you I didn't hear her make any claims like his that interest rates had doubled or productivity had halved &ndash; things he had previously been pinged for, and which are reasonably easy to establish.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:30:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(and partly because Key knew she would try to correct his lying just like their first "debate")</p></blockquote><p>Sasha:  To be fair, perhaps Clark need to be pulled up on her own lies &mdash; or shall we say, echoing the hero of <em>North by Northwest</em>, her "expedient exaggerations".  I suspect her…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:43:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Did anyone else reckon Key was about to shake Clark's hand at the very end after Campbell did his "may the best leader win" closing?</p></blockquote><p>I thought so at the time, but I'd have to go back and review the tape and I just can't do that.  But I have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:39:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Oh, and I thought Campbell's framing of his questions was more biased towards the Nats lines (nanny state, time for change, etc) even though on the surface he also had themes like trust in there too. He also seemed more.. niggly towards Clark, as if there's still baggage.</p><p>Clark was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:28:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						TV3 debate: struggled to stay watching, glad the yelling didn't last, Clark seemed tired and the red jacket didn't help, thought the panel was a tad unfair about Key's late comments which I thought showed at least some hints of inspiration despite the ruthless focus-grouping &ndash; but then maybe it…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:15:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MMWfUyZKg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MMWfUyZKg</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:18:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I agree, but if you go for a advertising-based funding model for your broadcaster, maybe it's inevitable?</p></blockquote><p>Don't think so, Andrew.   Imperfect as it may be, the Advertising Standards Authority (which TVNZ is part of through its membership of the New Zealand Television Broadcasters Council) is a reasonably effective self-regulatory…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:02:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Martin</title>
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						<p>Hmmm...only stuff through the letter box this election so far is a 'thanks for all the memories' letter from Benson-Pope. </p><p>He regrets he is not able to continue as a member of Parliament. "That is, as you know, not my choice".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:58:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<p>I might buy the herald , has anyone got that o'reilly guys number?</p><p>That is huge if he can't get buyers.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:45:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BTW, am I the only person who thinks it's not a particularly good look seeing Labour election ads &mdash; or anyone else's come to that &mdash; on TVNZ's Election 08 web pages?</p></blockquote><p>I agree, but if you go for a advertising-based funding model for your broadcaster, maybe it's inevitable?  Or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:22:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						BTW, am I the only person who thinks it's not a particularly good look seeing Labour election ads &mdash; or anyone else's come to that &mdash; on TVNZ's Election 08 web pages?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:16:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						Success!  &ndash; Thank you Graham.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:03:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<p>Thanks Graham &ndash; I was thrown by not seeing a preview.  Let's see if this  works...</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAluyt5_kic" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAluyt5_kic</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:57:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Or you can just go <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MMWfUyZKg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>, until I figure out how to revert to an earlier version of Flash.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:51:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, I have secret footage of TV3's focus group reaction to tonight's debate:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MMWfUyZKg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MMWfUyZKg</a></p><p>Recommendation:  Next time we got with the electrified podiums, and the sudden death round with the leaders wrestling in a pool of blood wearing nothing but man-kinis.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:50:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						Andrew E. You can embed a YouTube video in PA system by putting the link to it in the comment &ndash; make sure it includes the "www" bit and doesn't just start <a href="http://youtube.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://youtube.com</a> ... You can check that you've got it right by clicking on "preview": if there's no writing…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:44:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyway watch the Clark v Key debate on TV3 tonight ?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, God.. I could have written the spin from the Kiwibuggers and Sub-Standardistas for them, but let's get real.  They both clung to their talking points for girm death, and I'll give John Campbell one cheer for embarking on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:42:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew E</title>
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						<p><threadjack></p><p><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-6DpC-mj8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Depressing stuff from McCain supporters</a></p><p><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar71V0MS1jg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">A bit more uplifting from Obama supporters</a></p><p><br />BTW Russell, please could you knock up a quick 'help' page that contains useful things like the code for embedding a YouTube video?<br /></threadjack></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:32:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>but aren't the people praising his efforts as minister of foreign affairs (and racing of course, let's not forget that) forgetting the stirling work goff has done as minister of trade?</p></blockquote><p>C'mon Che; Winston's performances at various All Black victories (although strangely absent in Cardiff) over the last 3 years…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:21:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i'd be curious to hear which portfolio people think has contributed more to nzl over the last three years.</p></blockquote><p>I'd say it's actually a very tough call. Goff's done a stellar job on the FTA with China (which is actually very, very favourable to NZ, especially when considering what it…</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm loath to admit this, but he's not only done that, but has been, in all fairness, a very, good, solid, competent Minister of Foreign Affairs.</p></blockquote><p>i'm not one to ever criticise peters... </p><p>but aren't the people praising his efforts as minister of foreign affairs (and racing of course, let's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:34:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Winston will be missed for his antics, and he's definitely achieved far more for seniors than anyone else would ever even have tried</p></blockquote><p>I'm loath to admit this, but he's not only done that, but has been, in all fairness, a very, good, solid, competent Minister of Foreign Affairs.  But…</p>
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						Remember the bloke who solved the junk mail problem by having two mailboxes. One in the usual place and the other about 3 metres up on a pole.
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						What bothers me is that they all want to be my Facebook Friend.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:52:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What would Harry Holland or Peter Fraser make of Labour's touching faith in the power of markets to deliver equable political coverage?</p></blockquote><p>As Hell Pizza will probably be re-animating them sometime soon we just might get the answer to that, except they'll likely be too busy pimping fast food.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:51:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>addressed mail, which contains information specifically for the addressee that I need to retain and/or act on</p></blockquote><p>No circulars and addressed mail only I don't ping at all, I probably didn't make it sufficiently clear earlier.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:48:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						While I don't approve of junk mail, it's gotta be one of life's smallest concerns. It's a hundred times less hassle than people coming to the door or calling on the phone, so I'd really rather get the junk. And leaflets cause sooo much litter.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:45:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Giovanni, how about: <em>addressed mail, which contains information specifically for the addressee that I need to retain and/or act on</em></p><p>Basically, I want to choose what paper I pay to dispose of. If you want to communicate, use a billboard, hand out leaflets politely in the street or something</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:31:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Call me confused. Not an unusual state, OTOH and to be fair. Apologies.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:28:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						I think Lx's problem is the same problem I have. :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:16:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-granny-for-sale/?p=77324#post77324</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Was that a sorry I heard there? Seriously, we're waaaay more sick of saying it than you are of hearing it. But there's a reason we keep having to say it (for the past 40 years!) and there's a wealth of evidence to support our reasons for doing so.</p></blockquote><p>I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:02:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because today when I got home in my "no junk mail" letterbox there were three political pamphlets</p></blockquote><p>I'll come clean: when I canvas for political material, I ignore "junk mail" signs because frankly I don't think that political material is junk. I do the same when I maildrop advertising for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:13:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Oh are we talking political junk mail? (<em>can't be bothered going back over the last few pages</em>)</p><p>Because today when I got home in my "no junk mail" letterbox there were <strong>three</strong> political pamphlets, a harcourts ad, and <strong>two</strong> religious pamphlets. Christians are as bad as the rest.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:54:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What Clark is trying to do now is send a signal to NZ First voters not to waste their vote and to tick Labour if they want to avoid National getting in.</p></blockquote><p>NZ First Voters and Labour voters. Do the twain ever meet?</p><p>Craig, I have my recycling bin directly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:52:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote>Has anyone come across any empirical evidence that political junk mail actually works? I know people who've been swayed by good old school 'kiss every hand, shake every baby' personal contact with a candidate, but junk mail? Not so much &mdash; it either goes in the recycle bin unread, or…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:26:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now would be a good time to introduce laws prohibiting cross-media ownership.</p></blockquote><p>To me, the failure to do this has been one of the more glaring shoot-self-in-foot aspects of Labour's time in Government. If they were at all serious, they would have bought out the <em>Herald</em> and the <em>Listener</em> long…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:19:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And this is a serious question: Has anyone come across any empirical evidence that political junk mail actually works?  I know people who've been swayed by good old school 'kiss every hand, shake every baby' personal contact with a candidate, but junk mail?  Not so much &mdash; it either goes…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:10:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lx</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Actually, a fuck of a lot taken. Obvs.</em></p><p>    That's your choice. I'm going to leave this topic alone.</p></blockquote><p>Was that a <a href="http://www.publicaddress.net/default,5245.sm#post5245" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sorry</a> I heard there? Seriously, we're waaaay more sick of saying it than you are of hearing it. But there's a reason we keep having to say it (for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:10:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>asking to be taken off your fucking mailing list should do the job</p></blockquote><p>Fair enough, too. Apologies.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:58:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Only when their policies agree with Craig's, I suspect.</p></blockquote><p>Miss Marple has nothing to fear with you on the case, Matthew.  I don't want any of it either.  </p><p>If I was getting campaign spam from the National Party, I'd be really pissed off they were wasting resources, money and the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:57:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, c'mon. He's standing in your electorate, isn't he? Aren't hard-working candidates meant to do that?</p></blockquote><p>Once, perhaps.  But I think a civil phone call (yes, I can do polite) asking to be taken off your fucking mailing list should do the job unless you really really think pissing potential…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:54:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Aren't hard-working candidates <em>meant</em> to do that?</p></blockquote><p>Only when their policies agree with Craig's, I suspect. Personally I don't want any of it, particularly when we've got a big "Addressed mail and local papers only" sign on the letterbox, but there's no point complaining since political spam is an excepted…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:54:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Good</p></blockquote><p>Yup. Winston will be missed for his antics, and he's definitely achieved far more for seniors than anyone else would ever even have tried, but to paraphrase Craig he's been thoroughly confirmed as a pathological liar with these latest revelations. Quite what this will do to the final numbers…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:52:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And perhaps there's an up-side to the EFA, because two unsolicited and unwelcome letters from Phil Twyford ...</p></blockquote><p>Oh, c'mon. He's standing in your electorate, isn't he? Aren't hard-working candidates <em>meant</em> to do that?</p><p>Is Wayne Mapp curled up somewhere asleep?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:45:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><a href="http://stuff.co.nz/blogs/politics/2008/11/03/nats-conduct-raid-into-sth-auckland-labour-heartland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">New Espiner</a>: Peters thrown under the bus:</p><blockquote><p>Meanwhile it looks like Clark is all but abandoning Winston Peters and she’s shifted the Maori Party and the Greens up to the front-ranked cabs. She told Sky TV’s meet the leaders’ debate last night that she thought it would be extremely difficult…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:42:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						Can anyone tell me who was the daughter of the National man who laid the complaint over the John/John ad on Youtube? Please?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:40:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Bog-standard letter from Labour here, and another from ACT. The latter including a <em>hilarious</em> step-by-step guide to electing not just a change of government but "a government of change", using clip-art images to replace certain key words in a wacky visual style! What'll they think of next?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:07:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And perhaps there's an up-side to the EFA, because two unsolicited and unwelcome letters from Phil Twyford have been the only political junk mail we've received this campaign season.</p></blockquote><p>We've received three or four things from Rodders/Act, and one from whoever it is that Labour's putting up. Nothing from Worthless…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:03:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And perhaps there's an up-side to the EFA, because two unsolicited and unwelcome letters from Phil Twyford have been the only political junk mail we've received this campaign season.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:53:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Something scandalous I saw with my own eyes today was 3 red cars driving down Ponsonby Road &ndash; all pulling trailers with 'Vote Labour' billboards on them. Not the 'greenest' of campaign ideas I woulda thought.</p></blockquote><p>I've just rung Phil Twyford and asked "what part of __we're not going to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:51:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Actually, a fuck of a lot taken. Obvs.</em></p><p>That's your choice. I'm going to leave this topic alone.</p></blockquote><p>That was soooooo passive-aggressive ...</p><p>;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:50:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That's your choice. I'm going to leave this topic alone.</p></blockquote><p>There's nothing I love more than someone doing the time-honoured 'you just *choose* to be offended' schtick. Kudos.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:44:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Judd</title>
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						<p>Re: Lessig</p><p>I'd like to know his view on why Obama has stopped mentioning Net Neutrality as part of his technology platform and where he thinks the Obama administration (<em>if elected etc</em>...) would stand on this issue.</p><p>Obama used to be vocally pro-neutrality, but lately &ndash; not a squeak. Most…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:43:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just occasionally it'd be nice to hear people starting an investigation because it was the right thing to do to help protect our democracy.</p></blockquote><p>hahahahahahaha. Sorry, I must stop... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.</p><p>OK, I'm over that now. You're right, it would be nice for oversight of the politicians to occur because it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:30:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What form could the Labour Party possibly use to start demanding an inquiry in 2009 without looking like hypocrites?</p></blockquote><p>Just occasionally it'd be nice to hear people starting an investigation because it was the right thing to do to help protect our democracy.</p><p>Dreams are free, I know.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:15:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>People in the know, riddle me this: what are the chances (realistically) that he won't get re-elected?</p></blockquote><p>Slim to nothing, I'm afraid. He really does command the respect of his electorate, as an electorate MP.</p><p>So I'm told by everyone I know who lives there (except for the wife oif…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:11:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JohnAmiria</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Any more revelations about Peter Dunne would be interesting</p></blockquote><p>I hear he's sleeping with the daughter of his wife's brother's father &ndash; or was that the daughter of his father-in-law's son's sister? You hear so many scandals in politics ...</p><p>Something scandalous <strong>I saw with my own eyes today</strong> was 3…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:08:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He’ll probably merge it with Sky Watch.</p></blockquote><p>And this is one of those occasions where we need a kiwiblog-esque comment rating thing.</p><p>I suppose it would be returning to its roots.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:06:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually, a fuck of a lot taken. Obvs.</p></blockquote><p>That's your choice. I'm going to leave this topic alone.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Any more revelations about Peter Dunne would be interesting.</p></blockquote><p>People in the know, riddle me this: what are the chances (realistically) that he won't get re-elected?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:02:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, and you know who's all cashed-up and looking for bargains &mdash; and already prevented by Australian media ownership laws from buying much more than he already owns there?</p><p>Rupert Murdoch</p></blockquote><p>He’ll probably merge it with Sky Watch.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:51:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Does it mean the Listener is being sold as well?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, and you know who's all cashed-up and looking for bargains &mdash; and already prevented by Australian media ownership laws from buying much more than he already owns there?</p><p>Rupert Murdoch.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:48:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The same story was just as wothy of an inquiry during 2006, 2007 or 2008.</p></blockquote><p>The present story &mdash; with Meurant's helpful notes &mdash; didn't emerge until last week.</p><blockquote><p>What form could the Labour Party possibly use to start demanding an inquiry in 2009 without looking like hypocrites?</p></blockquote><p>Hypocrisy is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:45:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Really? Explain your logic.</p><p>The Peters-Dunne shenanigans in the Dom-Post date back to the last National government &mdash; it's still a story.</p></blockquote><p>The same story was just as wothy of an inquiry during 2006, 2007 or 2008.  What form could the Labour Party possibly use to start demanding an inquiry…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You mean the one that was cleared of being too young?</p></blockquote><p>My point was, the IOC avoided as much as possible having that information themselves. They trusted the Chinese Olympic Committee, and stated as such. FIFA is probably running the same line.</p>
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				<title>Holly Johnson</title>
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						<p>APN selling the Herald is big news, but hardly anyone has mentioned this in the discussion. Is this an indication of how few web-savvy people &ndash; especially of a certain age &ndash; care about mainstream media? Or about the Herald? <br />Does it mean the Listener is being sold as well?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:02:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>jamil. no way! the guy who said:</p><blockquote><p>In China it is not just unemployment you have to worry about it is social instability (the government's euphemism for riots, protests, revolution) that results from unemployment. According to internal government estimates from earlier this decade, the Communist Party needed to keep the…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't usually accord too much credence to the "Poor us" cries of the women I know</p></blockquote><p>None taken.</p><p>(Actually, a fuck of a lot taken. Obvs.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:35:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the Nats do end up being able to form a government after the election, I’m picking Mike Williams will be the first casualty.</p></blockquote><p>But how many times has Mike Williams reversed the usual traffic flow between gob and anus and not had a damn thing happen?  He's either raking…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:10:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But isn't the TV3 news coverage of a FIFA World Cup Tournament just a bit, er, crap?</p></blockquote><p>That'd be coz it's women's sports, and not netball. Seriously. I don't usually accord too much credence to the "Poor us" cries of the women I know, but when it comes to the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:08:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Whereabouts <em>is</em> the charming Meurant at the moment anyway?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:50:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JohnAmiria</title>
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						<blockquote>And we really need to hear from Meurant, along the lines of "Ross, just how rancid was your lobbying business?"</blockquote>But OTOH he did get <em>results</em> for his clients.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:41:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There's a tip for parents of young kids &ndash; add a 1 to their year of birth when you sign them up for their first sports teams, just in case.</p></blockquote><p>Yup, that's what I always do. And you should see their faces when I tell them that my little champ…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:33:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						It doesn't work for me on Firefox 3.0.3 or Safari 3.1.2, using Flash 10.0.12.36.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:28:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And there was that gymnast in Beijing that they specifically avoided asking about her age.</p></blockquote><p>You mean the one that was cleared of being too young?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How can they cheat? I'd imagine FIFA want to see birth certificates when they register players.</p></blockquote><p>What's the bet they don't?</p><p>I know players who have represented NZ at age grade level in other sports, and never been asked for a birth certificate. You register at 5 or 7 or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:25:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It does not work for me using Flash 10.0.12.36 on Firefox 3.0.3 but movie works fine using Internet explorer....as you were.</p></blockquote><p>Cool. That's what I needed to know.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:24:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Blake Monkley</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I ask everyone it's happening to confirm platform and version? (Right-click on a Flash movie to get the version.)</p></blockquote><p>It does not work for me using Flash 10.0.12.36 on Firefox 3.0.3 but movie works fine using Internet explorer....as you were.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:19:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						If the Nats do end up being able to form a government after the election, I’m picking Mike Williams will be the first casualty.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Last Saturday the Herald posted this online. It was an explanation by Eugene Bingham of the Key questions.</p></blockquote><p>In which he seems to strongly imply that "Batman" <em>was</em> Mike Williams. If so, my head spins at the blithering idiocy of Williams doing that.</p><p>Also, just got a call from someone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:12:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Hollow Men was published in 2006, too long ago to form the basis of any such demand by Labour.</p></blockquote><p>Really? Explain your logic.</p><p>The Peters-Dunne shenanigans in the Dom-Post date back to the last National government &mdash; it's still a story.</p><p>And, of course, Nicky Hager reckons (without providing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:05:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Germans simply look bigger in all departments. Bigger, faster, stronger, broader, taller etc…</p><p>They just are. They'd have won WW2, if we hadn't had guns and stuff.</p></blockquote><p>Especially those East German athletes in the 70s and 80s.</p><p>Not that I’m implying anything.</p>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p><strong>Craig</strong>,<br />do you seriously think that Helen gets more sympathetic coverage from the Herald than JohnKey does?</p><p>From my point of view it has looked like the Herald, as well as all the tv news, has smiled benevolently at Key while being somewhat unforgiving to Clark.</p><p>Not wishing to imply…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:00:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Germans simply look bigger in all departments. Bigger, faster, stronger, broader, taller etc…</p></blockquote><p>They just are. They'd have won WW2, if we hadn't had guns and stuff.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:58:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If Labour doesn't form a government, it can certainly spend the next three years demanding inquiries and quoting the racing chapter in the Hollow Men ...</p></blockquote><p>The Hollow Men was published in 2006, too long ago to form the basis of any such demand by Labour.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:52:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						<p>Last Saturday the Herald posted this online. It was an explanation by Eugene Bingham of the Key questions. It ended rather abruptly I thought, but by Sunday it was no longer available on the Election 08 menu online.<br />Still have the original URL at:<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&amp;objectid=10540463&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&amp;objectid=10540463&amp;pnum=0</a></p>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						<p>Mind you, being lobbied by Meurant wouldn't be your average civilised tete-a-tete over tea and scones.<br />"Oh, hi Ross, come in.  Is that a baton in your pocket or hasn't last night's viagra worn off yet?"</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:28:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Adrian Humm</title>
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						<blockquote><p>PS: Some applause, please for the New Zealand U17 women's football team, who have participated in two wonderfully watchable matches in the past week. They lost both, ending any hope of advancing in the tournament,...</p></blockquote><p>We've been to all the North Shore games and it's been brilliant entertainment.  The NZ…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:20:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not quite true Russell &ndash; it's just conspicuously different in length and tone to anything on Peters:</p></blockquote><p>Ah, thanks ...</p><p>If Labour doesn't form a government, it can certainly spend the next three years demanding inquiries and quoting the racing chapter in <em>the Hollow Men</em> ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:17:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>this is one Phil Kitchin lead story that David Farrar appears to have forgotten to ... blog about at all ...</p></blockquote><p>And except for <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/dunne_also_implicated_in_meurant_papers.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this post</a> you'd be right.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:16:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Not quite true Russell &ndash; it's just conspicuously different in length and tone to anything on Peters: <br /><a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/dunne_also_implicated_in_meurant_papers.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/dunne_also_implicated_in_meurant_papers.html</a></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Curiously, this is one Phil Kitchin lead story that David Farrar appears to have forgotten to accord full-noise exposure to. Or, actually, blog about at all ...
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:10:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Leave Bob aloooooooone!"</p></blockquote><p>Things I didn't need to be reminded of #38779...</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>A propos of nothing on this thread. This is what a good Republican looks like:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rfea8iEGNw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rfea8iEGNw</a></p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						"Leave Bob aloooooooone!"
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Damn straight, chuck in the Bob Jones "independent" interest and this definitely has the makings of something beyond face value.</p></blockquote><p>And then we get the Stoned Teenager Caught Shoving A Sparker Up The Cat's Bum Defence: "But <em>everyone</em> does it, why do you haaaaate me!" {Stifled sob, then flounces out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:49:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>Looking at it from a pure sporting contest point of view; no need to be gentlemanly.</p><p>The Germans simply look bigger in all departments.  Bigger, faster, stronger, broader, taller etc…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:40:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>PS: Some applause, please for the New Zealand U17 women's football team, who have participated in two wonderfully watchable matches in the past week. They lost both, ending any hope of advancing in the tournament,...</p></blockquote><p>While they can't continue, they aren't finished yet. There is still one last game against…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:38:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but the game behind all this is even more interesting...</p></blockquote><p>Damn straight, chuck in the Bob Jones "independent" interest and this definitely has the makings of something beyond face value.</p>
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				<title>Peter Martin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And whatever way it goes, I think we're due some strong public inquiry on lobbying practices in the racing and fishing industries, no matter who it embarrasses.</p></blockquote><p>A strong inquiry into ALL lobbying practices would be in order. Some nice ,bright sunlight on these back room activites would benefit all…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, for that to kick in we'd need... strategic memory lapses (and conveniently discovered documents) and a couple of rounds of accusing Audrey Young of being a forger.</p></blockquote><p>__Mr Dunne said yesterday he could not recall putting out a press release calling for a change to the UN fish stocks…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:32:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>one of the few sides not cheating in the Age Eligibility Department.</p></blockquote><p>How can they cheat? I'd imagine FIFA want to see birth certificates when they register players.</p><p>Or do you just mean the German girls look old? That's a bit ungentlemanly?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:24:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Lessig questions &ndash; what role do you have in advising the Obama policy team?</p><p>Are there likely to be any changes in approach to Copyright and patent issues in the event that Obama wins the election on Tuesday?</p><p>What implications would this have for the USA's stance on FTA negotiations?…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>There was more sweet midfield work by that U17 side in their two games than you'll see in half a dozen Phoenix matches</p></blockquote><p>Like he said.</p><p>The reason we can hold our heads high on this is that, from TV coverage anyway, we would appear to be one of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:19:22 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, for that to kick in we'd need at least another nine months...</p></blockquote><p>True. </p><p>... Mind you, it would seem there'd be little/no loss for Helen to come out swinging and declare she wouldn't have Dunne in gvt as John has done with Winston.</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>PS: Some applause, please for the New Zealand U17 women's football team, who have participated in two wonderfully watchable matches in the past week. They lost both, ending any hope of advancing in the tournament,...</p></blockquote><p>There was more sweet midfield work by that U17 side in their two games than…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If JK applies the same threshold as he did with Winston...</p></blockquote><p>Well, for that to kick in we'd need at least another nine months of evasions, flip-flops, strategic memory lapses (and conveniently discovered documents) and a couple of rounds of accusing Audrey Young of being a forger.</p><p>I'd also ask…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:06:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						Now would be a good time to introduce laws prohibiting cross-media ownership
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				<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:05:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>BTW, I don't want to sound like I'm pissing on Bingham &mdash; he's a solid but unexceptional reporter, and bout the only person I feel any sympathy for whatsoever in this mess.  </p><p>And am I the only person who thinks that if positions were reverse, and John Key was left…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Maybe APN will go bust and Auckland will be the first city without a newspaper. Personally, given we have the Internet for news, that'd be no bad thing.
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				<title>Whoops</title>
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						<p>Who paid for Dunne's coffee when he met with Key recently?</p><p>If JK applies the same threshold as he did with Winston... it might have been $3.80 wasted...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A would-be Prime Minister must expect scrutiny of every word.</p></blockquote><p>Certainly Mr. Bingham, and one would think that a credible news organisation would man up and own it when they get punked.  Sorry for harking back to my old bete noir &mdash; the Operation Leaf scam &mdash; but Cate Brett…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p>Jamil? No way! I went to university with that guy.</p><p>(I know, I know, welcome to New Zealand, Giovanni. I still get stupidly excited about this sort of thing.)</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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