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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> In the case of Fairfax’s “right first time” policy</q></p><p>Boggle!</p><p>Seriously, I write a lot. I even write reasonably well. I’m quite good at reading the literature and making connections and bringing together data in a way that allows other scientists, or managers, or grant approval panels, to understand what…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:12:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Both are technically correct, but because when you say it out loud you pronounce it “Brauniassus” rather than “Braunias”, in this case use the latter.</q></p><p>So if you're quoting someone who was talking about Braunias' work you should use "Braunias's".</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:02:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> pointed out to me that the word "interestingly" in journalism should be redundant</q></p><p>My PhD supervisor informed me that "clearly" does not belong in a scientific paper for equivalent reasons.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:00:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						<p>I too know of a couple of Qantas awards that should have had the sub-editor's name stamped on them (cough cough Mark Broatch) rather than the "reporter's".</p><p>A bad sub can ruin a team if not the whole publication, but a good sub is worth their weight in gold, especially…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:20:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>I don't know if he's survived the current cull but I'll also put in a huge plug for chief sub Michael Collins. </p><p>When he was at NBR he used to not only sub the words but he would [deep breath now] <strong>CHECK JOURNALISTS' MATHS</strong>.</p><p>And he was <strong>good</strong> at it.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:27:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I want you to whisper in my ear about subjunctives, dummy subjects</q></p><p>she's used to that by now</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 22:10:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Venetia King</title>
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						This news makes me sad, as a lifelong Listener reader prone to wincing at mistakes. I wonder if I'll be noticing more of those in future.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:20:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Having worked often alongside Alison in the subbery, I can attest to her precise and painstaking professionalism and (important) her abiding respect for writers’ intentions.</q></p><p>This.</p><p><q>No copy leaves her desk without having been (usually invisibly) improved.</q></p><p>And this.</p><p><q>She will be hugely missed. And Finlay’s right about Tom McWilliams…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:08:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Calder</title>
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						Having worked often alongside Alison in the subbery, I can attest to her precise and painstaking professionalism and (important) her abiding respect for writers' intentions. No copy leaves her desk without having been (usually invisibly) improved. She will be hugely missed. And Finlay's right about Tom McWilliams ...
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:59:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Calder</title>
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						Emma, you are driving me wild with passion. I want you to whisper in my ear about subjunctives, dummy subjects, misrelated participles and the misuse of the word "irony".
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:56:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>(What do you do with people whose name ends in ‘s’? Is it Braunias’ work or Braunias’s work?)</q></p><p>Both are technically correct, but because when you say it out loud you pronounce it “Brauniassus” rather than “Braunias”, in this case use the latter.</p><p>Yeah. I am surprisingly fun on dates,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:41:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>martinb</title>
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						<p>Since a sentence ago, huh? </p><p>And there seem to be some of the great columnists I remember whose work occasionally pops up there too- recent issue having Braunias and the man with the name at the top as well.</p><p>I think it is the only magazine that can compare to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:52:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Herald sub manages to take a story about Cameron Brewer admitting something might be true and crafts headline that conveniently matches said rag’s editorial line on the matter: ’Brewer denies journalist prompt’.</q></p><p>Where Brewer and The Herald's bad bromance is concerned, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#.22He_would.2C_wouldn.27t_he.3F.22" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">it's never a bad time to quote Mandy Rice-Davies</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:01:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Herald sub manages to take a story about Cameron Brewer admitting something might be true and crafts headline that conveniently matches said rag's editorial line on the matter: '<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11177254" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brewer denies journalist prompt</a>'. Speaking power to truth since forever.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:36:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>some sort of ironic sub-text thingee</q></p><p>started a trend..</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:27:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						This might sound like wretched arse kissing, but The Listener’s arts/books editor Guy Somerset is going to get some ups.  Had six reviews in the magazine over the last year, and every single one of them is better because Guy’s an infuriating pest who will ask nicely (but firmly) for…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:25:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Finlay Macdonald</title>
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						Hear hear. The ex Listener sub-squad is legion, too &ndash; Simon Wilson at Metro, Mark Cubey at RNZ, Rachel Scott at Otago Uni Press, to name a few. Interestingly, it was Tom McWilliams &ndash; my vote for the greatest sub of all &ndash; who pointed out to me that the…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:05:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Perhaps you still need an “Alison” in your online life…? :-)<br />…or was that some sort of ironic sub-text thingee?</q></p><p>No, it was me not typing as accurately as I think.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:04:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Evan Yates</title>
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						<p><q>the knack of knowing not what to change</q></p><p>Perhaps you still need an “Alison” in your online life…? :-)<br />...or was that some sort of ironic sub-text thingee?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:48:28 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:48:28 +1300</pubDate>
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