Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Friday Music: Specks of Money (what really happens with YouTube)

Rich Lock

Mon, 09 Sept 2013 21:35:58 +1200

Interesting post.

I assume the pre-vid video ads on YouTube get a different rate (for artist and host) to the static pop-ups?

Seems to me there’s a few ways artists and YouTube management could get together to finesse this to the advantage of both parties (although not necessarily to the…

Russell Brown

Sun, 08 Sept 2013 12:07:53 +1200

Jotted down some thoughts on the Lorde show in a new post.

BenWilson

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 10:49:11 +1200

So, paradoxically, we end up with a system of remuneration for musicians that’s far more hostile to the non-omnipresently-popular and mainstream even than the pre-internet music business, even though it’s still largely controlled by the same people. As ever, this is not the shining internet future we were promised.

Well,…

Russell Brown

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 10:38:31 +1200

On another note entirely, however (and I know this contradicts pretty much my entire comment above), look! Siltbreeze just released a Victor Dimisich Band retrospective. Download those “Native Waiter” MP3s today!

Yay.

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 08:36:39 +1200

Blanket claiming – which is what the majors have been doing for ages – is simply unacceptable
That's how Mushroom got started wasn't it?

Simon Grigg

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 08:17:25 +1200

Understand Simon – but if they’re doing it in a blanket style (using bots?) that’s not really cool and it’s a disturbing model.

Yep, agreed, but from what I understand those were mostly teething problems. The licensor interface now gets you to specify what should be covered so hopefully that's…

Caleb D'Anvers

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 01:24:17 +1200

Caleb D'Anvers

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 01:14:32 +1200

Then there’s the case of Spotify, which apparently pays less than 0.4p per stream. A song that receives a million streams therefore gets around £3800. Hardly any song, other than current top-40 pop or classic-rock back catalogue, can expect to get that sort of play. So, paradoxically, we end up…

nzlemming

Sat, 07 Sept 2013 00:33:34 +1200

Apropos of nothing at all, I just picked up a copy of Beat groups & courtyard parties by Gordon Spittle from 1996 at Slow Boat Records. Looks like a lovely little book I shall enjoy reading.

Martin Brown

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 23:33:38 +1200

Understand Simon – but if they're doing it in a blanket style (using bots?) that's not really cool and it's a disturbing model. There are clear rights visible on these YT channels, and answering these challenges – case by case – is a real stress and time waster.

Simon Grigg

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 22:19:21 +1200

BTW is Graeme Jeffries still active with the Cakekitchen?

Yes indeed. I had a letter from him recently with a bunch of new stuff. His last album was http://www.discogs.com/Cakekitchen-Calm-Before-The-Storm/release/4659129 which is quite wonderful.

Re DRM and YouTube. They are aware there have been a few glitches. When it happened to…

Patrick Tuapola

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 20:55:10 +1200

Clever new Raiza Biza, Diaz Grimm and Jay Knight Feat. Campbell/Key samples: https://soundcloud.com/jay_knight/jay-knight-diaz-grimm-pilots

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 17:15:48 +1200

I wonder who, if anyone, gets the view money from You Tube for things like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PM0om2El8

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 17:13:01 +1200

I know I put this up last week!
But this time you could own this piece of New Zealand history by simply following this link … and joining the fun of on line auctions…
;- )

Mike O'Connell

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 16:35:13 +1200

I too hope Peter Jeffries doesn't make this a one off, no interest in Palmer but Peter oh my!

I recall seeing at another defunct (for now anyway) venue (the old Dux de Lux), Roy Montgomery, Dribbling Darts of Love and Peter Jeffries on the same bill. Nothing beats Electricity on…

George Darroch

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 16:23:12 +1200

If Psy gets $1 million from 1 billion plays, does that mean the artist who gets 100,000 plays gets $100. In which case, 89,402 plays is not quite equivalent to an evening performing at a pub?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAcZtIwnOXs

I'm not dissing the system, but I wonder if we won't work out…

BenWilson

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 15:46:05 +1200

All due to the band?

Just the drummer.

Hebe

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 14:31:09 +1200

The Androidss would return from Auckland for weeks at a stretch and once – up against The Swingers across town at the Hillsborough Tavern – not only packed The Gladstone, but set a record for the bar take that was never bettered

All due to the band?

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 14:27:19 +1200

Some other interesting things
(via boingboing again):
Car creates music!
and
the Kickstart funded 'I have your heart' clip
by illustrator Molly Crabapple and others...

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 14:19:37 +1200

Great to see that Chills clip again, I can remember the mess and fun of it being filmed at Chris (and Barbara’s) home-based Hakanoa Studios (and up the road in the shopping centre on Richmond Road in Grey Lynn).
I don’t think it even got played on the telly more…

Martin Brown

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 14:18:42 +1200

It wouldn't be appropriate for me to be specific but I know of two instances in the last couple of weeks where local artists have had their entire YT catalogue unrightfully claimed.

bob daktari

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 14:02:51 +1200

Having been spending some time this week with a youtuber thanks to Going Global (free gig at galatos on Saturday www.goingglobal.co.nz) I learnt some stuff –

Its not just music companies using youtube to monitize / take down / or leave be various content – all the major film studios…

Russell Brown

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 13:59:45 +1200

Naughty DRM have been recently challenging/claiming NZ clips on YT they don’t manage rights for/distribute – ie. you’re an artist, you’ve put your own video/song ( your publishing and master rights ) up there and next minute DRM has flagged it as theirs.

Interesting. That very clearly should not be…

davesparks

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 13:57:54 +1200

Ooooh that Massonix. Really. Feel your loss!

Martin Brown

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 13:51:58 +1200

Naughty DRM have been recently challenging/claiming NZ clips on YT they don't manage rights for/distribute – ie. you're an artist, you've put your own video/song ( your publishing and master rights ) up there and next minute DRM has flagged it as theirs. And everything else you have up there.…

Public Address

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 13:51:58 +1200

Discussion from blog post.