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Danielle

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 10:02:17 +1200

No, no, I'm calling you a fogey because you said it was a bad take on "Got To Give It Up", and I think, lyrics and video aside, it's a fun, peppy-sounding take on it. You're an *instrumental* fogey. ;)

(And yeah, I know dude be old. I remember "When…

Russell Brown

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 07:11:58 +1200

The rapey douchebaggery is sort of tangential to the point, though, Russell. I’m just talking about how I enjoy the sound of the song, not whether or not it’s lyrically objectionable. (Of course it is. But so are a lot of things.)

But you still don't get to call me…

Kumara Republic

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 03:02:40 +1200

I think this is the most wonderful response to the VMA twerking:

Better still, it'd be funny to see the reaction of Miley if she's made to listen to The Transformed Man.

Biobbs

Fri, 06 Sept 2013 02:24:46 +1200

But more importantly: Lorde's 'Royals' has now moved into the US Top 10.

Flicked on my radio while making breakfast this morning, and was delighted to hear 'Royals' has been chosen as this week's featured "Inevitable" track on Danish National Radio. She's jolly well gone global!

DR has a nice…

Danielle

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 22:08:52 +1200

The rapey douchebaggery is sort of tangential to the point, though, Russell. I'm just talking about how I enjoy the sound of the song, not whether or not it's lyrically objectionable. (Of course it is. But so are a lot of things.)

Lilith __

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 21:53:24 +1200

I think this is the most wonderful response to the VMA twerking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Lb3kFwJRQ

Ian Dalziel

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 09:37:55 +1200

dig it...
Oresome!
Gold and Platinum maybe...
the joys of being a minor,
er, miner, mynah?

Bart Janssen

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 09:32:52 +1200

But more importantly: Lorde’s ‘Royals’ has now moved into the US Top 10.

Oresome!

I so hope she can cope with the life she is now enetering.

Bart Janssen

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 09:31:49 +1200

and ‘feels’ like

That would require touching him – no thanks

Russell Brown

Thu, 05 Sept 2013 09:01:45 +1200

And in US chart news, Katy Perry finally dethrones Robin Thicke.

But more importantly: Lorde's 'Royals' has now moved into the US Top 10.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 04 Sept 2013 07:00:15 +1200

Living wedge ends…
Thicke is like the Forrest Gump of RnB
I thought he was Simon Cowell, cloned,
he sure looks and ‘feels’ like Cowell…

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 04 Sept 2013 06:57:15 +1200

Laboring under a misapprehension....
...a budgie (more like a small parrot) smuggler.
Which reminds me....
– no Australian Election thread?
Is anyone else worried that our good neighbour may soon be overtaken by an inveterate budgie smuggler!

Pete

Wed, 04 Sept 2013 00:15:12 +1200

Is it too late to point out that that little white girl can't even twerk right?

Thicke is like the Forrest Gump of RnB – so dumb ya just don't wanna see him bump into too much furniture

Back to music, the Guardian has a sample of some new Pixies…

Russell Brown

Tue, 03 Sept 2013 22:21:18 +1200

This is belated. But I feel like I must, in the interests of honesty and not-just-saying-stuff-on-Twitter-ism, note that I pretty much totally enjoy the song and may call Russell a fogey about it next time I see him. :) “Hey-hey-hey.”

You’re going to call me a fogey for thinking that…

JacksonP

Tue, 03 Sept 2013 15:53:37 +1200

All this and nary a mention of Robert Palmer?

Shocking!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGw_cOgwa8

Geoff Lealand

Tue, 03 Sept 2013 15:48:26 +1200

I have liked Marina since my daughter introduced me to her music. I will ask her about this.

Interesting last minute CU of a budgie (more like a small parrot) smuggler.

Lilith __

Tue, 03 Sept 2013 15:34:50 +1200

Some very stripped-down men in this recent Marina and the Diamonds video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNcuTWzTVw

Thoughts?

Danielle

Tue, 03 Sept 2013 15:18:41 +1200

Thicke’s Blurred Lines is a stupid, misogynistic song with an even stupider and more misogynistic video.

Alan Perrott

Mon, 02 Sept 2013 13:49:07 +1200

now this, like bananas, fish and milk, is something I've never got. even as a wee chillun I hated blue jeans. so I've never worn them and never will.
I'm reading John Lydon's autobiography and it seems we have this in common. but as I'm reading John Lydon's autobiography I'm…

Kumara Republic

Mon, 02 Sept 2013 11:59:42 +1200

Not the first time stripped-down men have been depicted on MTV. And it was similarly controversial but for different reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA

Russell Brown

Mon, 02 Sept 2013 11:37:00 +1200

One instance of this video has already suffered a copyright takedown, but for as long as it lasts, here’s the Auckland Uni Law Revue parody of ‘Blurred Lines’:

http://youtu.be/L4WM4d_mhGM

Update: A TVNZ news story says it was taken down because “YouTube claims the video violates its terms and conditions by…

Peter Darlington

Mon, 02 Sept 2013 08:58:45 +1200

For NZ music fans, there’s an interesting show starting on Nelson’s Fresh FM every 2nd Wednesday called Beat.co.nz, by a guy called Richard Liddicoat (who I work with). Should be a little like Radio NZ’s Music 101 show. This week he’s got a segment called Lilburn to Lorde as…

George Darroch

Sun, 01 Sept 2013 11:20:56 +1200

If blue jeans became unfashionable tomorrow, Old Navy would be in trouble.

Half the world wears jeans.

__Jeans protect people because they already occupy this personal intimate space and there is no empty feeling inside that can be colonised by this external gaze. Furthermore the very anonymity and ubiquity of…

BenWilson

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:28:14 +1200

That’s not a factor that’s important in urban China, but ease of getting shoes on and off in a society that requires you to swap shoes for slippers or jandals when you enter somebody’s home is.

It's sufficiently common here that it's a factor in my decision. My place is…

Chris Waugh

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:46:24 +1200

I think you tried to quote something different for your first point. I found the article made no attempt to generalise beyond the borders of the USA – and a fairly strict definition of those borders that includes DC but excludes any of the territories. I’ll leave it up to…

BenWilson

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:06:55 +1200

think you’ll find a lot more shoelace-free friends up here. Slip ons are quite popular in China.

I don't think any of that article was trying to generalize beyond the First World, as it was in 1990. I've never been to China, but I'd be amazed if the changes in…

Joe Wylie

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:34:27 +1200

Still looks great though, don’t it…
Gorgeous.

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:28:10 +1200

En Provenance...
that’s a Lesley MacLean, one of her best
Thanks Stu...

Now how much do ya think one of those silk screened books from your States Trip would sell for?
Has it held on to the $50 I paid for it, all those years ago?

:- )

Chris Waugh

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:10:53 +1200

And I use Win7 at home, but I'm stuck with XP at work. And if I want to show my students anything online, I either use the IE5 installed on the classroom computer or install a modern browser before class starts. The differences are astounding.

Fair point on the SUVs,…

BenWilson

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:04:11 +1200

As for new stylings, my decision to lead the trend of losing shoelaces altogether has never caught on, but I've grown accustomed to not having to tie my shoes on with string, and won't go back. It makes buying shoes a little difficult, but I'm determined, in an age where…

BenWilson

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:54:23 +1200

But on the other hand I do agree with some of the stuff in there

Yeah, it couldn’t possibly be that like civil aviation, the car industry is getting so closed to the aerodynamic ideal that massive style changes are impractical and, well, stupid.

Nah, I don't buy it. SUVs…

BenWilson

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:37:15 +1200

It's hard to even continue with an article that starts with:

Only 20 years ago the World Wide Web was an obscure academic thingamajig. All personal computers were fancy stand-alone typewriters and calculators that showed only text (but no newspapers or magazines), played no video or music, offered no products…

Yamis

Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:06:34 +1200

I'm a bit late on the Friday thread (as usual).

I didn't see the Cyrus performance at the VMA's but I was bombarded by kids for days after at school asking me if I'd seen it. From my Year 10s up to my Year 13s, but mainly the younger ones.…

peter mclennan

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:08:13 +1200

hey Russell – re Lesley Maclean poster gallery, see http://dubdotdash.blogspot.co.nz/2011/11/fnun-sound-and-pictures.html

also Chch Library's online poster collection

Chris Waugh

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:33:08 +1200

Faye Wong

The real Faye Wong-Wong Kar Wai connection is also a cover, but comes from Chungking Express, 《梦中人》, otherwise known as Dreams by the Cranberries. Doesn't work quite as well for me as Sandy Lam's Take My Breath Away, but then again, Chungking Express, much as I love it,…

Bevan Shortridge

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:29:06 +1200

Well, we'll see if this works. I discovered both of them very late.

Mink DeVille – Just Your Friends. Sublime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vReNBDulAWU

The Hudson Brothers – Dolly Day
(one of them is actress Kate Hudson's father).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDJ_epb7WI4

Russell Brown

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:10:14 +1200

Ian, that’s a Lesley MacLean, one of her best screen-prints :-)

Okay, I'm gonna curate a Lesley Maclean gallery for Audioculture. Needs to happen.

Stupid

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:50:38 +1200

Ian, that's a Lesley MacLean, one of her best screen-prints :-)

Chris Waugh

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:23:01 +1200

and Faye Wong’s Take My Breath Away from Wong Kar Wai’s As Tears Go By

Dammit, far more likely to have been Sandy Lam than Faye Wong. Still Cantopop at its best, though.

Chris Waugh

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:49:19 +1200

Just the machine stuff.

And there, I think, is your problem. The machine stuff is to music what McDonald's is to food.

Russell Brown

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:45:06 +1200

The same could have been said in the 1970s about punk.

Not really. Punk was shortform, emotionally direct, consciously youthful. The Miley song just seems like unfocused drivel produced by middle-aged men.

And I'm not saying all contemporary pop music. Just the machine stuff.

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:28:23 +1200

I’m thinking of parting with this gem…
But damned if I can remember who did it, I’m thinking Ronnie van Hout; or Lesley Maclean; or Stuart Page; or a Kilgour; or …
Does anyone remember/know fer sure?

Still looks great though, don't it…

Chris Waugh

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:08:48 +1200

And just because somebody somewhere mentioned nostalgia, Cui Jian/崔健《一无所有》yìwúsuǒyǒu/Nothing to my Name – Mandopop in its youth – and Faye Wong’s Take My Breath Away from Wong Kar Wai’s As Tears Go By – Cantopop at its best, and in my opinion vastly superior to that American version from…

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:50:32 +1200

Perhaps I'm just old, but it seems to me that the problem with some modern pop music is that it is so empty of the things pop music is supposed to possess.

The same could have been said in the 1970s about punk.

Chris Waugh

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:49:03 +1200

This Vanity Fair article points to technological advances – particularly the Internet – as a major reason for such cultural stasis.

And I'm calling bollocks on it.

Well, I think he has half a point here:

So as the Web and artificially intelligent smartphones and the rise of China and…

Russell Brown

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 15:07:35 +1200

Russell, think the link to the nethui video is munged?

Ta. Fixed now.

Kyle Matthews

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:40:45 +1200

Russell, think the link to the nethui video is munged?

Kumara Republic

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:36:40 +1200

Perhaps I’m just old, but it seems to me that the problem with some modern pop music is that it is so empty of the things pop music is supposed to possess. Such was the case with the joyless mess that Miley Cyrus performed this week at the MTV Video…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:23:33 +1200

More cast offs from the Silverfish Ranch...
Out they go, the baubles of the past, the memories, the artifacts of existence, back out onto the streets they very nearly disappeared from, looking for a good home, or some final exposure before sharing their latent stored solar energy with the universe...…

Alan Perrott

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:17:31 +1200

I had to go look for that other Osmonds track – Traffic In My Mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8ffgQ93ig

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:07:53 +1200

especially the shell bikini.
She’s such a chameleon
This must be clam elan, surely...
;- )

Lilith __

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:58:02 +1200

Lady Gaga's opening number, featuring five different wig/costume combos, effortlessly switched. And she finished wearing a tiny seashell bikini, which she kept wearing for the rest of the evening as she watched the show in the audience. Yeah, she's still got it.

Loved Gaga's costumes, especially the shell bikini. She's…

Alan Perrott

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:56:27 +1200

One good apple (and I get the ref, nice)?? Not even…

check Gotta Get Love off Brainstorm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73HX3kTmJPo

then there’s the track wot I can’t remember off Plan. the common ingredient is brother Alan Osmond, under the magic Mormon undies, the dude was a proper rocker.

also worth checking is…

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:25:55 +1200

The best thing about all the Miley Cyrus hand-wringing and pearl-clutching is that in the midst of it all is some quite good writing about pop music culture. I like this essay about how profoundly sad Miley's single is – the one she performed at the VMAs that wasn't "Blurred…

Mike O'Connell

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:11:38 +1200

Aah, Crazy Horses, the Osmonds' One Good Apple! Apparently the song was making an environmental statement, referring to air pollution from cars. Can't imagine though they were driving about in 1.6L Ford Pintos to back their 'convictions'!

peter mclennan

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:07:26 +1200

liking these goodies from getdownedits... Cheryl Lyyn – Got to be real, and Laidback...

https://soundcloud.com/getdownedits/cheryl-20lynn-20-20got-20to

https://soundcloud.com/getdownedits/laidback-20-20white-20horse-20

Lilith __

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:52:59 +1200

This gender swapped version of blurred lines highlighted what was so wrong with Thicke's version for me

Thicke's Blurred Lines is a stupid, misogynistic song with an even stupider and more misogynistic video. There's a stinging takedown here on Miss Representation , which also gives special mention to Timberlake's creepy…

Russell Brown

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:34:13 +1200

The Clean Vehicle t-shirts are in stock.

Russell Brown

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:20:18 +1200

Did she invite her biological grandparents too? :P

Oh, please. She's only slightly younger than my younger child.

Peter Darlington

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:09:43 +1200

Miley was marketing, pure and simple – middle aged men fell for it, fist shaking and bottoms wobbly... the "target market" of tweens probably missed the whole thing

It certainly is pure commerce but I disagree about the Tweens reference. Just check out the likes of Diplo's and other American…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:09:24 +1200

Forever Young?
The Osmonds’ ‘Crazy Horses’
Hah!
I'm still waiting for Crazy Horse's 'The Osmonds'
but everybody knows it's nowhere...

Bart Janssen

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:08:57 +1200

This gender swapped version of blurred lines highlighted what was so wrong with Thicke's version for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfwCjgiodg

Bart Janssen

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:06:38 +1200

I’m only mildly miffed about not being invited

Did she invite her biological grandparents too? :P

bob daktari

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:47:31 +1200

the Lorde Vector thing- you should be sent a email on monday, click the link to claim the tickets, I assume on a first in first served basis. Will be interesting to see how many try to profit from the promotion on trademe...

Saying that awesome to see a digital…

Public Address

Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:47:31 +1200

Discussion from blog post.