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Simon Grigg

Mon, 01 Dec 2014 00:12:53 +1300

Just clarifying a little – by “mostly he didn’t” I mean that it didn’t encourage others to get in a van and trek around the country – it took a special kind of drive that Mi-Sex certainly had to do that at the time.

Simon Grigg

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:50:46 +1300

surely his pioneering work in taking it to the provinces showed the financially astute that there was a buck to be turned out there.

Mostly he didn’t. Mi-Sex made their name in Australia after a brief live spell more or less in Auckland and Wellington, with brief (successful) forays into…

andin

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:36:16 +1300

financially astute
Yep keeping the door charges was a financial must

Joe Wylie

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:39:43 +1300

It’s really hard to deny the historic importance of what Corless, with regional partners (Nesbitt, Wilson, Young etc) did for our fledging industry. In 1977 the live scene was almost dead – in 1983 it was vibrant and as much as we would like to think it was the rise…

DownbeaDdan

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:53:43 +1300

Not sure about your itunes Match experiences there Russel, the thing is slow to update, but I've found it to be great.

Having multiple computers and devices, and being able to use any of them to import, buy tracks, or make a playlist which is then available on all the…

Simon Grigg

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:44:21 +1300

Or a case of the tail pretending it wagged the dog back then. Surely it’s a story that could have been told without needlessly aggrandising an often self-serving system that arguably took as least as much as it gave back.

It was a business Joe and it made money. I’m…

Joe Wylie

Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:02:01 +1300

It seems a lot of those supporting the story were actually there and many had long industry careers and maybe get why this was briefly important. Or maybe it’s rose tinted sentimentality – we are all guilty of that I’m sure.

Or a case of the tail pretending it wagged…

andin

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:14:07 +1300

Did stuff go down?
Jaysus I was working myself to exhaustion, and a puffett at the end of the day was heaven. As for anything else, Shit! who had time or energy.
But there was that one time at a Charley Gray organised gig somewhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcjJsfMTJAs&index=4&list=PL6d8_NuzriPZolVlFkiSmRqzf4crzhkTa

Pity I worked for…

Simon Grigg

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:36:03 +1300

A real pity to see Audio Culture hosting that kind of puff piece.

Given the historic importance of the subject (the agency and the driving force behind it) , I don’t see it’s a puff piece at all and I suspect the countless bands who benefited immensely from that solid…

Joe Wylie

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:29:14 +1300

I doubt I’m alone in rolling my eyes a bit at Golden Codgers waxing sentimental about the good old days, because in many respects they weren’t that flash.

Left to their own devices they’d have happily perpetuated the kind of entertainment that wouldn’t get in the way of the punters’…

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:51:29 +1300

Some will be glad that the 'what-happens-on-tour-stays-on-tour' ethos is still being invoked, there are stories out there that don't cast such a rosy light...
Different times, and different behaviours were acceptable, perhaps.

I'm with Russell in saying I bloody hope not — because some of the shit I've heard (and…

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:06:40 +1300

Did anyone reading here go to the 'Entrain' New Years Eve Dance Party, near Nelson in 1995/96?
A man who may have witnessed an alleged sexual assault during a New Year's Eve celebration nearly 20 years ago is being urged to come forward.
[[http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/63646437/Witness-to-historic-sex-assault-sought|Canterbury police released two photographs today of…

Mike O'Connell

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:38:38 +1300

Golden Dawn...tomorrow night Lawrence Arabia plays The Hits of the 60s. Something for everyone!

Rumour has it via Kiwi FM that Connan Mockasin is in town and will join the line-up. Pity I won't see that one. Love to hear any reviews and/or pics.

bob daktari

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:57:37 +1300

I can see why the site and remixes could so easily end up being near on impossible for so many potential buyers to get

"What Legitmix actually sells is a file that rebuilds the song on your hard drive to the remixer's instructions."

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/21/4541926/legitmix-omid-mcdonald-legal-remix-itunes

Given you need either the original…

Russell Brown

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:22:52 +1300

The only other pay off that tour was seeing some punk grab Benny Levin’s wig off his head at one gig – and Craig Scott was an infinitely more friendly touring minder than Corless.

When you played the Brevet Club my mate somehow got talking to Craig outside the venue.…

Russell Brown

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:19:21 +1300

Mr Jim tells me that even the creator of that 'Blue Monday' cover had the same "not available in your territory" roadblock when he tried to do it through Legitimix. Gawd.

Russell Brown

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:16:00 +1300

Some will be glad that the ‘what-happens-on-tour-stays-on-tour’ ethos is still being invoked, there are stories out there that don’t cast such a rosy light…
Different times, and different behaviours were acceptable, perhaps.

I don't know if it was even acceptable then, but it seems a long time ago.

Joe Wylie

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:56:48 +1300

my addled yet bitter memories

Would the gig at the Station Hotel, with Proud Scum supporting, have been part of that? Someone’s social rugby team seemed to have been providing unpleasantly obtrusive amateur ‘security’. When Chris Knox worked a running commentary into an ad libbed version of Iggy Told Me…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:54:51 +1300

My understanding of the "traditional" "morality" behind white-label remixes and the like is that they are produced to be played out in some kind of bar/club who will have an APRA license and hence New Order or whoever will get paid, theoretically.

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:15:51 +1300

New Music Mismanagement (RIP)
John Dix has been very charitable in this story
"I think I enjoyed the touring most of all. It was always fun on the road. I had some great times.
Some will be glad that the 'what-happens-on-tour-stays-on-tour' ethos is still being invoked, there are stories out…

Dave Patrick

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 14:00:33 +1300

Oh, music? This is quite good, just arrived in my hot little hands last night
https://soundcloud.com/sacredbones/dream-police-hypnotized

Dave Patrick

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:56:51 +1300

Russell, I’m bitterly disappointed at your failure to tell everyone that DJ Max Key is in the house

Listen to them here

If that's what the kids are in to these days, I'm quite pleased I'm a curmudgeon.

Alan Perrott

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:50:16 +1300

Disco Babs, just cos I'm going on leave...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFiAOX-OlPs

Grant McDougall

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:47:42 +1300

Russell, I'm bitterly disappointed at your failure to tell everyone that DJ Max Key is in the house

Listen to them here

I wonder if this song will be in their set ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4TMJ6oEla4

Graham Dunster

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:25:53 +1300

Music and the internet – Steve Albini's Melbourne speech recently was an excellent overview – http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/17/steve-albinis-keynote-address-at-face-the-music-in-full – can't remember if this has already been posted here, apolgies if so!

Public Address

Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:25:53 +1300

Discussion from blog post.